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Yeah I think he is up there with the greats.

His job is like no other in gaelic management, past or present, if you take into account the money, players at his disposal, keeping near professional players happy, keeping the production line going (latest example, Murchan), and what is expected from the largest county population in the country.

Looking at the scenes after the match, there was a gra there between him and the players that would suggest great respect between the two.

For me, it is all about the manager in any team. A bit like an intellectual teacher with a class full of pupils, you could have the best manager in the country looking after a team of good players, but if the team don't get or buy in to what the manager and his team are trying to do, and both will gain nothing out of it.

I don't think anyone will ever hear the goings-on, fall-outs etc. that have happened in that Dublin team over the past few years, which were bound to have happened.
And by looking at the likes of Bernard Brogan celebrating as much as the next man tonight, it doesn't seem to affect the squad either - they have got their 5 in a row.

And that has to be down to Gavin and his management team.

I would be interested to hear the esteem that BrokenCrossbar and the Crossmaglen lads hold Joe Kernan in, because they were exactly the same in being serial winners.

Exactly the opposite more like. Cross won their AIs in the face of adversity. Gavin won his with the benefit of financial support most professional teams never see.

Gavin might be a good manager but there's little doubt Mickey Harte or Joe Kernan could easily have equalled or even bettered his record given the chance. Not sure Gavin would have won 3 X AIs with Tyrone tho!

Alright, i will put it another way, would that particular Dublin team win five in a row with someone else managing them?

Of course

Fair Enough 

Some result for the Harps

Yeah I think he is up there with the greats.

His job is like no other in gaelic management, past or present, if you take into account the money, players at his disposal, keeping near professional players happy, keeping the production line going (latest example, Murchan), and what is expected from the largest county population in the country.

Looking at the scenes after the match, there was a gra there between him and the players that would suggest great respect between the two.

For me, it is all about the manager in any team. A bit like an intellectual teacher with a class full of pupils, you could have the best manager in the country looking after a team of good players, but if the team don't get or buy in to what the manager and his team are trying to do, and both will gain nothing out of it.

I don't think anyone will ever hear the goings-on, fall-outs etc. that have happened in that Dublin team over the past few years, which were bound to have happened.
And by looking at the likes of Bernard Brogan celebrating as much as the next man tonight, it doesn't seem to affect the squad either - they have got their 5 in a row.

And that has to be down to Gavin and his management team.

I would be interested to hear the esteem that BrokenCrossbar and the Crossmaglen lads hold Joe Kernan in, because they were exactly the same in being serial winners.

Exactly the opposite more like. Cross won their AIs in the face of adversity. Gavin won his with the benefit of financial support most professional teams never see.

Gavin might be a good manager but there's little doubt Mickey Harte or Joe Kernan could easily have equalled or even bettered his record given the chance. Not sure Gavin would have won 3 X AIs with Tyrone tho!

Alright, i will put it another way, would that particular Dublin team win five in a row with someone else managing them?

Yeah I think he is up there with the greats.

His job is like no other in gaelic management, past or present, if you take into account the money, players at his disposal, keeping near professional players happy, keeping the production line going (latest example, Murchan), and what is expected from the largest county population in the country.

Looking at the scenes after the match, there was a gra there between him and the players that would suggest great respect between the two.

For me, it is all about the manager in any team. A bit like an intellectual teacher with a class full of pupils, you could have the best manager in the country looking after a team of good players, but if the team don't get or buy in to what the manager and his team are trying to do, and both will gain nothing out of it.

I don't think anyone will ever hear the goings-on, fall-outs etc. that have happened in that Dublin team over the past few years, which were bound to have happened.
And by looking at the likes of Bernard Brogan celebrating as much as the next man tonight, it doesn't seem to affect the squad either - they have got their 5 in a row.

And that has to be down to Gavin and his management team.

I would be interested to hear the esteem that BrokenCrossbar and the Crossmaglen lads hold Joe Kernan in, because they were exactly the same in being serial winners.

A good send off for Schmidt and Best today. But its hard to believe Ireland are no.1 in the world.

The BBC iplayer has some great stuff on it with regards to comedy, documentaries etc.
But when it comes to NI , they are just like the politicians, stagnant. Giving a platform to the person that says the most controversial thing that week in this backwater of nothing.
Can't disagree with the bias on the anniversaries point.
But, in general, I get the feeling that the broadcasters, politicians, journalists have absolutely f**k all to report on because there is no government in place!
And so naturally, they retreat to the tribal lines, ensuring that they, in some small way, are still relevant, and to sustain their livelihood.
Brexit and the fall of stormont have given these people the excuse to become lazy.

Jesus there's some miserable cnuts about.

No one is disputing the fact that's it's done, it finished early 2000, it's been on life support ever since.

Anyone that thinks the cranes are an eye sore is a tool, just my opinion.

Was it not used for the assembly of wind turbines in the recent past?
That's what I was told by one of the engineers onsite a while ago and that was why it had trundled on for the last few years.

I'm looking for a holiday in October or perhaps November, but struggling slightly. There are plenty of travel agents with different deals but I'm wondering if I could do it myself somehow without going through them. I'm essentially looking for warm weather (mid 20s hopefully!), a beach would be nice and a place with a few things to do and see. Any advice? Thanks in advance!

The Algarve in October, and in the first couple of weeks would be my advice.
We used Dublin based Click and Go this year and got a very reasonably priced holiday.

Well done to Lowry, always a pleasure watching wins like these

10 of the last 50 major winners coming forms Ireland...not too shabby that

A simply staggering statistic. Let's just celebrate. What could be more Irish??

Tis right...don't give a toss about religion or what part of the island they were born...all Irish to me

+1
I also noticed that when it is an international affair, the majority of comments and commentary refer to Ireland, Irish players or on Irish soil.
Looking at the stats, it is obvious that golf is the no. 1 sport we excel at globally.
Maybe boxing gives it a close run, but 10 world champions in the last 50 events is outstanding.

How did he take an 8 at the first?

1st shot went out of bounds and then missed a 6foot putt.

Practice round yesterday did the same thing. His goose is probably cooked unless he can get something going pretty quick and even then I doubt it'll be enough.

Apparently he was in the same situation at Birkdale a couple of years ago and finished around the top of the leaderboard, though it will be tough for him to win it now no doubt.
Interesting question on five live:
Name the 11 NI/ROI golfers who have represented Europe in Ryder Cup, since European involvement in 1979. Surprised myself by getting 10 of the 11.

Disappointed with your partitionist acceptance there BBB....we would have known what you meant if you had just said Irish...Project NI in full swing

Snowflake

How did he take an 8 at the first?

1st shot went out of bounds and then missed a 6foot putt.

Practice round yesterday did the same thing. His goose is probably cooked unless he can get something going pretty quick and even then I doubt it'll be enough.

Apparently he was in the same situation at Birkdale a couple of years ago and finished around the top of the leaderboard, though it will be tough for him to win it now no doubt.
Interesting question on five live:
Name the 11 NI/ROI golfers who have represented Europe in Ryder Cup, since European involvement in 1979. Surprised myself by getting 10 of the 11.

Very good show on BBC atm about mental health. With premier league footballers and Prince William. Should be on iplayer if missed tonight.

Great win for Glenn tonight in Saval. Credit the lads who have really stepped up as a team. We always find it hard to beat Saval. Glenn kept them to one point in second half. Some win.

[He would show them how to make decoy runs, go through routines. Some of the scores they ran up in their games were staggering. Goals all over the place]

Imo it is all down to management, and not player ability.
Especially when it is something like a kick out strategy.
One story that stuck with me - my uncle won a McRory cup under Gerry Browne's management in the fifties. He told me that Browne had a tactic that for every sideline ball that the Abbey won in the opponents half, that the end result was a player in position to take a scoreable point. And 99% of the time they scored.
If there is a manager getting paid to manage a team, surely a kick out strategy isn't too much to ask.

All I'm getting from this is that your uncle greatly exaggerates the ability of players from his youth, and that you're daft enough to believe him.

Yeah I know, an ulster schools cup winning side completing a set play devised by a future All Ireland senior winning manager.
Mad stuff altogether.
Kevin O'Neill must be daft as well:

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/down-teams-dont-always-win-but-they-always-believe-they-can-win-26682053.html

'ON the old Dublin Road in Newry, on a hill overlooking Páirc Esler, lives Kevin O'Neill, wing-back on the 1960 team and brother of the celebrated attacker Seán. He attributes much of Down's style to the coaching input of Gerry Brown in the local CBS, the Abbey, in the 1950s, which he attended. He sees the style Brown cultivated and Down's brand as virtually indistinguishable.

"Brown was the first real coach that I encountered in football and he used to break the game down into different facets. I remember him having a team, an under 14 team, my brother Seán played on it in the Abbey, and it was the nearest thing to a machine you ever saw. He would show them how to make decoy runs, go through routines. Some of the scores they ran up in their games were staggering. Goals all over the place.'

Q.E.D