Premier League 2023-2024

[Milltown Row2]

Say it quietly around the Reds on here, but if Klopp goes this season without winning the title will his tenure be deemed as an underachievement?

After all they have been the best team in the world since he took over 

Granted they ran into a City team in their prime, but one Covid EPL title seems to be underwhelming.

Unpopular opinion I'm guessing.

One of Liverpool's greatest managers, end of story.

Without him, City would be heading for seven in a row. No one else has even run Pep close, never mind taken him to the final day. Plus, three CL final appearances, one won.

Underwhelming me arse.

Leicester not win one during pep's time?

Pep joined City year after.. Conte (Pep's 1st Season) and Klopp only managers to beat City to the title

Ah.. some record all the same, regardless of the dough

[RedHand88]

Say it quietly around the Reds on here, but if Klopp goes this season without winning the title will his tenure be deemed as an underachievement?

After all they have been the best team in the world since he took over 

Granted they ran into a City team in their prime, but one Covid EPL title seems to be underwhelming.

Unpopular opinion I'm guessing.

1 league title
1 champions league
1 super cup
1 club world cup
2 league cups
1 fa cup

That's assuming we don't win the league this year, which admittedly is a big ask.
Compare that to the 9 years previous, or even the 9 years before that. He's done well.
Klopp will always be a legend. He gave us a ridiculous amount of moments that will never be forgotten. It is a shame that he came up against 115 charges FC in his tenure which made winning the league nigh on impossible and who knows, if they do throw the book at city in years to come, what he achieved may be more appreciated.

[Milltown Row2]

Say it quietly around the Reds on here, but if Klopp goes this season without winning the title will his tenure be deemed as an underachievement?

After all they have been the best team in the world since he took over 

Granted they ran into a City team in their prime, but one Covid EPL title seems to be underwhelming.

Unpopular opinion I'm guessing.

1 league title
1 champions league
1 super cup
1 club world cup
2 league cups
1 fa cup

That's assuming we don't win the league this year, which admittedly is a big ask.
Compare that to the 9 years previous, or even the 9 years before that. He's done well.
Klopp will always be a legend. He gave us a ridiculous amount of moments that will never be forgotten. It is a shame that he came up against 115 charges FC in his tenure which made winning the league nigh on impossible and who knows, if they do throw the book at city in years to come, what he achieved may be more appreciated.

How many times did Liverpool come second in the league to City?

[J70]

Twice under Klopp.

Pipped by a point both times on the final day.

[Milltown Row2]

Twice under Klopp.

Pipped by a point both times on the final day.

If City were to lose their appeal and leagues were stripped with second place taking the spoils Utd would have two as well?

Seems mental

[Captain Obvious]

It is a shame that he came up against 115 charges FC in his tenure which made winning the league nigh on impossible and who knows, if they do throw the book at city in years to come, what he achieved may be more appreciated.

In season 2021/22 it wasn't that as a win against Tottenham at home instead of a draw with three games to play would have won the league title for Liverpool.

[tiempo]

I do feel for Liverpool, its clear as day they've been denied an amazing era of domestic success by City's financial doping

[Kidder81]

It is a shame that he came up against 115 charges FC in his tenure which made winning the league nigh on impossible and who knows, if they do throw the book at city in years to come, what he achieved may be more appreciated.

In season 2021/22 it wasn't that as a win against Tottenham at home instead of a draw with three games to play would have won the league title for Liverpool.

You seem fairly simple minded but that season Liverpool lost two games and had 92 points, it still wasn't enough. That tells you all you need to know

[JoG2]

It is a shame that he came up against 115 charges FC in his tenure which made winning the league nigh on impossible and who knows, if they do throw the book at city in years to come, what he achieved may be more appreciated.

In season 2021/22 it wasn't that as a win against Tottenham at home instead of a draw with three games to play would have won the league title for Liverpool.

'these are small, but those are far away....'

[Armagh18]

It is a shame that he came up against 115 charges FC in his tenure which made winning the league nigh on impossible and who knows, if they do throw the book at city in years to come, what he achieved may be more appreciated.

In season 2021/22 it wasn't that as a win against Tottenham at home instead of a draw with three games to play would have won the league title for Liverpool.

You seem fairly simple minded but that season Liverpool lost two games and had 92 points, it still wasn't enough. That tells you all you need to know

If there was any justice City would be stripped of all their titles. Will admit that Liverpool side did unbelievably well to get near that financially and I've a feeling physically doped team. Bit like that Mayo team running into the Dubs but at least Liverpool got their title!

[AustinPowers]

It is a shame that he came up against 115 charges FC in his tenure which made winning the league nigh on impossible and who knows, if they do throw the book at city in years to come, what he achieved may be more appreciated.

In season 2021/22 it wasn't that as a win against Tottenham at home instead of a draw with three games to play would have won the league title for Liverpool.

You seem fairly simple minded but that season Liverpool lost two games and had 92 points, it still wasn't enough. That tells you all you need to know

If there was any justice City would be stripped of all their titles. Will admit that Liverpool side did unbelievably well to get near that financially and I've a feeling physically doped team. Bit like that Mayo team running into the Dubs but at least Liverpool got their title!

Does that  mean Man Utd and Liverpool would   need to bring back their players  from those years and  be presented with the PL trophy?

Sure what consolation would that be anyway? Let's  go to Old Trafford to see  the 2012 team  lift the PL trophy? Would Stevie G's slip  and Aguerooooo  be erased from history?

Nah, if you're going to  punish them , a Rangers-style demotion is the way to go  , with a few years in the Vauxhall conference (or lower). That's  the place for them.

[Armagh18]

It is a shame that he came up against 115 charges FC in his tenure which made winning the league nigh on impossible and who knows, if they do throw the book at city in years to come, what he achieved may be more appreciated.

In season 2021/22 it wasn't that as a win against Tottenham at home instead of a draw with three games to play would have won the league title for Liverpool.

You seem fairly simple minded but that season Liverpool lost two games and had 92 points, it still wasn't enough. That tells you all you need to know

If there was any justice City would be stripped of all their titles. Will admit that Liverpool side did unbelievably well to get near that financially and I've a feeling physically doped team. Bit like that Mayo team running into the Dubs but at least Liverpool got their title!

Does that  mean Man Utd and Liverpool would   need to bring back their players  from those years and  be presented with the PL trophy?

Sure what consolation would that be anyway? Let's  go to Old Trafford to see  the 2012 team  lift the PL trophy? Would Stevie G's slip  and Aguerooooo  be erased from history?

Nah, if you're going to  punish them , a Rangers-style demotion is the way to go  , with a few years in the Vauxhall conference (or lower). That's  the place for them.

Oh absolutely that too!

[RedHand88]

It is a shame that he came up against 115 charges FC in his tenure which made winning the league nigh on impossible and who knows, if they do throw the book at city in years to come, what he achieved may be more appreciated.

In season 2021/22 it wasn't that as a win against Tottenham at home instead of a draw with three games to play would have won the league title for Liverpool.

You seem fairly simple minded but that season Liverpool lost two games and had 92 points, it still wasn't enough. That tells you all you need to know

Also got 97(!) in 18/19, which still wasn't enough to win the league. Which is almost mathematically impossible.

[Milltown Row2]

Must be a parade or two for those glorious points tally's?

[From the Bunker]

Must be a parade or two for those glorious points tally's?

That's the tough sh1t of sport. You can be the best team in a below average league and you can be a really top team in a  in a competitive league.

City are going for their 6th league title in 7 years. They'd be going for 7 in a row if Liverpool did not break their run. They are going for an unprecedented 4 in a row this year. People can say money is the factor, but money will only buy you a very strong squad. You still need hunger and organisation. I hear all this talk of the 115 charges against City, if they held any substance then City would be deducted points like Forest and Everton. There is no way the League would treat one club different to the rest. Klopps record of being competitive in the League here and there and being competitive in the Champions League is over blown. Any other club other than City could do what Klopp has done at liverpool the last 5 to 6 years. It's mad that he lasted so long at the club.