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[INDIANA]

He does score a lot from play - when he's right.

He had surgery at the end of the year. Was patently unfit all year and that was on the back of the should trouble before that. What is surprising is that he's managed to play as well as he has and contribute as much as he has under the circumstances. Very good forward with lots of strings to his bow. Very good in a playmaker role as well.

He's not quick enough and doesn't do much damage from play on quality defenders. He's a very good player but he's short on being top class.

[Beffs]

He does score a lot from play - when he's right.

He had surgery at the end of the year. Was patently unfit all year and that was on the back of the should trouble before that. What is surprising is that he's managed to play as well as he has and contribute as much as he has under the circumstances. Very good forward with lots of strings to his bow. Very good in a playmaker role as well.

He only scored 0-7 from play in 2014. That's an even worse per game return, than this year.

If he was able to bang in a few of those sucker punch, killer goals in All Ireland finals and semi finals, that other forwards do, he'd be the deadliest forward in the country. But until he does.....

[moysider]

He does score a lot from play - when he's right.

He had surgery at the end of the year. Was patently unfit all year and that was on the back of the should trouble before that. What is surprising is that he's managed to play as well as he has and contribute as much as he has under the circumstances. Very good forward with lots of strings to his bow. Very good in a playmaker role as well.

He's not quick enough and doesn't do much damage from play on quality defenders. He's a very good player but he's short on being top class.

He's not the quickest but neither was your friend Jimmy Keaveney or Kenny Dalglish and they were pretty good. There are other ingredients as well.

A fit COC would be one of the least of our troubles tbh.

[moysider]

He does score a lot from play - when he's right.

He had surgery at the end of the year. Was patently unfit all year and that was on the back of the should trouble before that. What is surprising is that he's managed to play as well as he has and contribute as much as he has under the circumstances. Very good forward with lots of strings to his bow. Very good in a playmaker role as well.

He only scored 0-7 from play in 2014. That's an even worse per game return, than this year.

If he was able to bang in a few of those sucker punch, killer goals in All Ireland finals and semi finals, that other forwards do, he'd be the deadliest forward in the country. But until he does.....

When he does get a sniff he is as clinical a finisher as there is about.

[Cunny Funt]

He does score a lot from play - when he's right.

He had surgery at the end of the year. Was patently unfit all year and that was on the back of the should trouble before that. What is surprising is that he's managed to play as well as he has and contribute as much as he has under the circumstances. Very good forward with lots of strings to his bow. Very good in a playmaker role as well.

He's always unfit if you're being honest. Lad will do well to make it to 30 playing IC at this rate.

Gawd help ye if he is ever fit then before he's 30. Andy is over 30 and still hasn't lost to Roscommon .

It shows how talented he is that he has been vital even when obviously limited by injuries. But the mad days of underage and colleges and multiple teams are over so the demands now should be more manageable. He ll be fine.

Could count on one hand the amount of U21 county games C O Connor played and his college side UUJ were knocked out in the first round. OTT training with the senior panel as a 19 year old could be the root cause for all of his injuries now.

[Syferus]

He does score a lot from play - when he's right.

He had surgery at the end of the year. Was patently unfit all year and that was on the back of the should trouble before that. What is surprising is that he's managed to play as well as he has and contribute as much as he has under the circumstances. Very good forward with lots of strings to his bow. Very good in a playmaker role as well.

He's always unfit if you're being honest. Lad will do well to make it to 30 playing IC at this rate.

Gawd help ye if he is ever fit then before he's 30. Andy is over 30 and still hasn't lost to Roscommon .

It shows how talented he is that he has been vital even when obviously limited by injuries. But the mad days of underage and colleges and multiple teams are over so the demands now should be more manageable. He ll be fine.

Could count on one hand the amount of U21 county games C O Connor played and his college side UUJ were knocked out in the first round. OTT training with the senior panel as a 19 year old could be the root cause for all of his injuries now.

Or playing an entire IC championship with a season-ending shoulder injury that needed immediate surgery and rehab. Horan ran him into the ground to lose another AI final.

[Beffs]

He does score a lot from play - when he's right.

He had surgery at the end of the year. Was patently unfit all year and that was on the back of the should trouble before that. What is surprising is that he's managed to play as well as he has and contribute as much as he has under the circumstances. Very good forward with lots of strings to his bow. Very good in a playmaker role as well.

He only scored 0-7 from play in 2014. That's an even worse per game return, than this year.

If he was able to bang in a few of those sucker punch, killer goals in All Ireland finals and semi finals, that other forwards do, he'd be the deadliest forward in the country. But until he does.....

When he does get a sniff he is as clinical a finisher as there is about.

Not in All Ireland finals and semi finals he isn't. Not compared to earlier rounds of the champo, when the quality of the opposition is weaker. How many big goals has Kevin McMena-how the heck do you spell his name? - scored in a fraction of the game time and a fraction of the sniffs?

[muppet]

He does score a lot from play - when he's right.

He had surgery at the end of the year. Was patently unfit all year and that was on the back of the should trouble before that. What is surprising is that he's managed to play as well as he has and contribute as much as he has under the circumstances. Very good forward with lots of strings to his bow. Very good in a playmaker role as well.

He only scored 0-7 from play in 2014. That's an even worse per game return, than this year.

If he was able to bang in a few of those sucker punch, killer goals in All Ireland finals and semi finals, that other forwards do, he'd be the deadliest forward in the country. But until he does.....

When he does get a sniff he is as clinical a finisher as there is about.

Not in All Ireland finals and semi finals he isn't.

2-15 against you lot this year and 3-13 against Kerry last year is pretty shabby really. Remember he turned 23 this year. Probably over the hill now. I believe he is out for months with yet another operation (knee?). We'll hardly need him.

[Beffs]

No one is disputing his over all scoring stats. They are what they are. Heavily padded by scores from placed balls.

Bringing up two two games series, both of which Mayo lost, is hardly helping the argument that he doesn't needs to do more from open play, if Mayo are to ever win Sam. 

[muppet]

No one is disputing his over all scoring stats. They are what they are. Heavily padded by scores from placed balls.

Bringing up two two games series, both of which Mayo lost, is hardly helping the argument that he doesn't needs to do more from open play, if Mayo are to ever win Sam. 

Em......you brought up semi finals. You said he wasn't a clinical finisher in semi-finals.

5-28 in 2 semi-finals is pretty poor I'll give you that.

[Beffs]

You can quote his over all stats all you want. Separate his scores from play  and tell me what they are, if you divide them up, per game. Will it make for such impressive reading? I doubt it.

No one is saying he is useless. That seems to be the automatic knee jerk reaction whenever anyone questions his contributions from play. Lord knows why. He is far from useless. He'd walk onto any team in the country, for his prowess from placed balls alone. If Kerry and Dublin have Bryan Sheehan and Dean Rock primarily for their free taking duties, O'Connors value to Mayo is incalculable.

But that doesn't mean they will win the AI, with him as their primary scorer. Kerry, Dublin and Donegal have other forwards who can bang in the big goals, in the big games, when they are needed most. Do Mayo? If the Mayo defense didn't leak bad goals, at the worst possible times, maybe they wouldn't need such increased productivity. But until they fix their habit of doing that, they will.

[muppet]

You can quote his over all stats all you want. Separate his scores from play  and tell me what they are, if you divide them up, per game. Will it make for such impressive reading? I doubt it.

No one is saying he is useless. That seems to be the automatic knee jerk reaction whenever anyone questions his contributions from play. Lord knows why. He is far from useless. He'd walk onto any team in the county, for his prowess from placed balls alone. If Kerry and Dublin have Bryan Sheehan and Dean Rock primarily for their free taking duties, O'Connors value to Mayo is incalculable.

But that doesn't mean they will win the AI, with him as their primary scorer. Kerry, Dublin and Donegal have other forwards who can bang in the big goals, in the big games, when they are needed most. Do Mayo? If the Mayo defense didn't leak bad goals, at the worst possible times, maybe they wouldn't need such increased productivity. But until they fix their habit of doing that, they will.

Not according to the Rossies. They reckon they have at least 6 better forwards.

[Lar Naparka]

You can quote his over all stats all you want. Separate his scores from play  and tell me what they are, if you divide them up, per game. Will it make for such impressive reading? I doubt it.

No one is saying he is useless. That seems to be the automatic knee jerk reaction whenever anyone questions his contributions from play. Lord knows why. He is far from useless. He'd walk onto any team in the county, for his prowess from placed balls alone. If Kerry and Dublin have Bryan Sheehan and Dean Rock primarily for their free taking duties, O'Connors value to Mayo is incalculable.

But that doesn't mean they will win the AI, with him as their primary scorer. Kerry, Dublin and Donegal have other forwards who can bang in the big goals, in the big games, when they are needed most. Do Mayo? If the Mayo defense didn't leak bad goals, at the worst possible times, maybe they wouldn't need such increased productivity. But until they fix their habit of doing that, they will.

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Of course he is far from useless; the fact that others look to him for inspiration is proof enough of that.  It may be just me but the rest of the team seem to play better with him on rather than off the field. They look up to him. I guess he would score a lot more from play if he wasn't carrying persistent injuries but that means sweet FA when the scoreline at the end is the only thing that matters.
Mayo could certainly do with natural scoring forwards such as Bernard Brogan or indeed most of the Dub attack. There is  no point in self-delusion; Mayo badly need more punch up front and unless COC comes back injury-free and gets stuck in more, we'll be looking to newcomers like DOC, Regan (Adam Gallagher?) to up the scoring rate. That's a big ask.
THere is no point in denying the obvious; in the 2012 final , Mayo returned 0-13 with the majority of scores from frees-Varley 0-2 and O'Connor 0-5. Of the others, Keegan got 0-1 so the forwards from play and that includes two subs managed only 0-5 between them.
The following year, apart from Andy with 1-2, the only forward to score from play was Andy with 1-2. COC scored 0-8, all from frees and the total from play was 1-5 from a total of 1-14.
With stats like those, you can't realistically hope to win AIs.
Looking ahead, unless Cillian somehow ups his contribution from play, we're going nowhere serious and shag another bloody CF, we've got 45 and counting.

[Lar Naparka]

You can quote his over all stats all you want. Separate his scores from play  and tell me what they are, if you divide them up, per game. Will it make for such impressive reading? I doubt it.

No one is saying he is useless. That seems to be the automatic knee jerk reaction whenever anyone questions his contributions from play. Lord knows why. He is far from useless. He'd walk onto any team in the county, for his prowess from placed balls alone. If Kerry and Dublin have Bryan Sheehan and Dean Rock primarily for their free taking duties, O'Connors value to Mayo is incalculable.

But that doesn't mean they will win the AI, with him as their primary scorer. Kerry, Dublin and Donegal have other forwards who can bang in the big goals, in the big games, when they are needed most. Do Mayo? If the Mayo defense didn't leak bad goals, at the worst possible times, maybe they wouldn't need such increased productivity. But until they fix their habit of doing that, they will.

Not according to the Rossies. They reckon they have at least 6 better forwards.

Sure even the bus driver would get his game before any of our poor, useless amadáns.

[rosnarun]

I really don't know why people try and separate score from frees and scores from play . they both count exactly the same and Many  games have been lost for the want of a free taker and Cillian is probably the best around . He has fair distance two good feet and most of all he is Reliable , would make any team in the country as a free taker