Terror attack in London

Started by Farrandeelin, March 22, 2017, 05:24:36 PM

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winghalfun

QuoteFewer than ten people have died in Britain in "terrorist" attacks in ten years. In the same period over 21,000 have died on the roads. But commentators seem unable or unwilling to accommodate the conclusion that the threat to the individual from politically motivated attacks is 1/2000th of the threat from motor cars. On the contrary, the news media collaborate with the deranged lunatics who carry out these attacks, and with the deranged right-wing nutcases who will feed their xenophobia on this news, by providing them with the achievement of their objective. Non-stop coverage on the BBC throughout the afternoon. Extended news programmes. Hours of coverage again tonight.

In a mediascape with a sense of perspective, wouldn't the ten o'clock news have been, "Five people died today when a man attacked passers-by and police in Westminster. Five people died today in road accidents across Britain. And in sport ..."? Of course I'd still not expect any coverage of the murder of expendable foreign civilians in drone attacks etc.

Well said Hardy.  Was just expressing the same sentiment (not as articulately though) to the wife this morning as the wall to wall coverage continued.

As I type this here we go again on Talkbalk.  "How will London change after yesterday's terrorist attack?"  FFS playing Streets Of London as the opening song.

Pity the Queen Mother wasn't still alive to get her out in the rubble to keep the spirits up.

And just to clarify - what happened was tragic, shocking, and brutal and everyone killed or injured deserves all our thoughts and prayers.

stew

Quote from: screenexile on March 22, 2017, 11:17:45 PM
Just what we need ... more scaremongering from the Foxnews crew... I'll bet this was top story there all day ignoring the dozens of a Americans killed by guns at the same time!

That was a horrible ordeal in London today and my heart goes out to the families who have suffered a terrible and senseless loss!!

Well said screen about the loss, it is heartbreaking for all involved.

Its not scaremongering screen it is a statistical fact, got frig all to do with Fox news, you left wing lads need to face reality and by the way, the brits are looking at arming specialist cops that protect places such as Parliament with personal guns.

I understand that you are emotional but what has Fox news got to do with me and what has the dozens of people killed by murderers using guns yesterday in America got to do with a knifing Radical Islamic terrorist in London wielding two knives??????

These animals are not going to stop anytime soon, if you cannot see that you are a fool, I am being a realist not scaremongering kid!
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

Farrandeelin

I see (might be fake news) up on Facebook that there was an 'Islam is Superior' march through London one of the days. Hardly yesterday given what happened.
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whitey

Quote from: Hardy on March 22, 2017, 11:43:40 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 22, 2017, 11:17:45 PM
Just what we need ... more scaremongering from the Foxnews crew... I'll bet this was top story there all day ignoring the dozens of a Americans killed by guns at the same time!

That was a horrible ordeal in London today and my heart goes out to the families who have suffered a terrible and senseless loss!!

Fewer than ten people have died in Britain in "terrorist" attacks in ten years. In the same period over 21,000 have died on the roads. But commentators seem unable or unwilling to accommodate the conclusion that the threat to the individual from politically motivated attacks is 1/2000th of the threat from motor cars. On the contrary, the news media collaborate with the deranged lunatics who carry out these attacks, and with the deranged right-wing nutcases who will feed their xenophobia on this news, by providing them with the achievement of their objective. Non-stop coverage on the BBC throughout the afternoon. Extended news programmes. Hours of coverage again tonight.

In a mediascape with a sense of perspective, wouldn't the ten o'clock news have been, "Five people died today when a man attacked passers-by and police in Westminster. Five people died today in road accidents across Britain. And in sport ..."? Of course I'd still not expect any coverage of the murder of expendable foreign civilians in drone attacks etc.

What a pile of nonsense.......how many would have been killed if the plot to hijack the airlines hadnt been foiled back in 2006.

Much (but not all) of the terrorism has been perpertated by individuals (and their offspring)  who have been allowed/invited into the UK under the Labour Partys multicultural wet dream

sid waddell

Quote from: stew on March 23, 2017, 01:42:02 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 22, 2017, 11:17:45 PM
Just what we need ... more scaremongering from the Foxnews crew... I'll bet this was top story there all day ignoring the dozens of a Americans killed by guns at the same time!

That was a horrible ordeal in London today and my heart goes out to the families who have suffered a terrible and senseless loss!!

Well said screen about the loss, it is heartbreaking for all involved.

Its not scaremongering screen it is a statistical fact, got frig all to do with Fox news, you left wing lads need to face reality and by the way, the brits are looking at arming specialist cops that protect places such as Parliament with personal guns.

I understand that you are emotional but what has Fox news got to do with me and what has the dozens of people killed by murderers using guns yesterday in America got to do with a knifing Radical Islamic terrorist in London wielding two knives??????

These animals are not going to stop anytime soon, if you cannot see that you are a fool, I am being a realist not scaremongering kid!
The reality, which you are only too happy to dismiss as it doesn't suit your agenda, is that Islamist terrorism is a very minor problem in the grand scheme of things and presents absolutely no existential threat whatsoever to western societies or their way of life.

The real threat to western societies and their way of life comes from gullible fools like yourself, who use these type of incidents to stoke fear and division against ethnic minorities. It comes from morons like Trump, Le Pen, Farage and right-wing media, who act as ISIS's chief propagandists every time they speak or write another bullshit headline.

The gas thing is that some of you morons even claim to be fans of Martin McGuinness, who stood squarely against that kind of vilification.

To call such people confused is a charitable description.

maddog

Quote from: whitey on March 23, 2017, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: Hardy on March 22, 2017, 11:43:40 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 22, 2017, 11:17:45 PM
Just what we need ... more scaremongering from the Foxnews crew... I'll bet this was top story there all day ignoring the dozens of a Americans killed by guns at the same time!

That was a horrible ordeal in London today and my heart goes out to the families who have suffered a terrible and senseless loss!!

Fewer than ten people have died in Britain in "terrorist" attacks in ten years. In the same period over 21,000 have died on the roads. But commentators seem unable or unwilling to accommodate the conclusion that the threat to the individual from politically motivated attacks is 1/2000th of the threat from motor cars. On the contrary, the news media collaborate with the deranged lunatics who carry out these attacks, and with the deranged right-wing nutcases who will feed their xenophobia on this news, by providing them with the achievement of their objective. Non-stop coverage on the BBC throughout the afternoon. Extended news programmes. Hours of coverage again tonight.

In a mediascape with a sense of perspective, wouldn't the ten o'clock news have been, "Five people died today when a man attacked passers-by and police in Westminster. Five people died today in road accidents across Britain. And in sport ..."? Of course I'd still not expect any coverage of the murder of expendable foreign civilians in drone attacks etc.

What a pile of nonsense.......how many would have been killed if the plot to hijack the airlines hadnt been foiled back in 2006.

Much (but not all) of the terrorism has been perpertated by individuals (and their offspring)  who have been allowed/invited into the UK under the Labour Partys multicultural wet dream

Apart from Lockerbie 7/7 was the biggest attack and that was carried out by 3 men born in UK  the 4th bomber was born in Jamaica all long before phoney Tony took the reigns. Think the 2 guys that killed Lee rigby were British born of Nigerian descent.

maddog

Seems this guy was a 52 year old born in Kent. Khalid Masood.


J70

Quote from: whitey on March 23, 2017, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: Hardy on March 22, 2017, 11:43:40 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 22, 2017, 11:17:45 PM
Just what we need ... more scaremongering from the Foxnews crew... I'll bet this was top story there all day ignoring the dozens of a Americans killed by guns at the same time!

That was a horrible ordeal in London today and my heart goes out to the families who have suffered a terrible and senseless loss!!

Fewer than ten people have died in Britain in "terrorist" attacks in ten years. In the same period over 21,000 have died on the roads. But commentators seem unable or unwilling to accommodate the conclusion that the threat to the individual from politically motivated attacks is 1/2000th of the threat from motor cars. On the contrary, the news media collaborate with the deranged lunatics who carry out these attacks, and with the deranged right-wing nutcases who will feed their xenophobia on this news, by providing them with the achievement of their objective. Non-stop coverage on the BBC throughout the afternoon. Extended news programmes. Hours of coverage again tonight.

In a mediascape with a sense of perspective, wouldn't the ten o'clock news have been, "Five people died today when a man attacked passers-by and police in Westminster. Five people died today in road accidents across Britain. And in sport ..."? Of course I'd still not expect any coverage of the murder of expendable foreign civilians in drone attacks etc.

What a pile of nonsense.......how many would have been killed if the plot to hijack the airlines hadnt been foiled back in 2006.

Much (but not all) of the terrorism has been perpertated by individuals (and their offspring)  who have been allowed/invited into the UK under the Labour Partys multicultural wet dream

And how many people would be alive if there was decent health service? How many would be alive if a ban on texting while driving was properly enforced or the real dangers even recognized by all drivers? How many would be alive if people didn't drive drunk?

The point about risk and perspective is absolutely valid.

thebuzz

Quote from: J70 on March 23, 2017, 05:08:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 23, 2017, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: Hardy on March 22, 2017, 11:43:40 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 22, 2017, 11:17:45 PM
Just what we need ... more scaremongering from the Foxnews crew... I'll bet this was top story there all day ignoring the dozens of a Americans killed by guns at the same time!

That was a horrible ordeal in London today and my heart goes out to the families who have suffered a terrible and senseless loss!!

Fewer than ten people have died in Britain in "terrorist" attacks in ten years. In the same period over 21,000 have died on the roads. But commentators seem unable or unwilling to accommodate the conclusion that the threat to the individual from politically motivated attacks is 1/2000th of the threat from motor cars. On the contrary, the news media collaborate with the deranged lunatics who carry out these attacks, and with the deranged right-wing nutcases who will feed their xenophobia on this news, by providing them with the achievement of their objective. Non-stop coverage on the BBC throughout the afternoon. Extended news programmes. Hours of coverage again tonight.

In a mediascape with a sense of perspective, wouldn't the ten o'clock news have been, "Five people died today when a man attacked passers-by and police in Westminster. Five people died today in road accidents across Britain. And in sport ..."? Of course I'd still not expect any coverage of the murder of expendable foreign civilians in drone attacks etc.

What a pile of nonsense.......how many would have been killed if the plot to hijack the airlines hadnt been foiled back in 2006.

Much (but not all) of the terrorism has been perpertated by individuals (and their offspring)  who have been allowed/invited into the UK under the Labour Partys multicultural wet dream

And how many people would be alive if there was decent health service? How many would be alive if a ban on texting while driving was properly enforced or the real dangers even recognized by all drivers? How many would be alive if people didn't drive drunk?

The point about risk and perspective is absolutely valid.

The point is that no one sets out to deliberately kill people by not having a decent health service. No one (usually) sets out to kill people by crashing a car. This guy deliberately murdered those people so it's automatically viewed in a different perspective.

sid waddell

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Quote from: thebuzz on March 23, 2017, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: J70 on March 23, 2017, 05:08:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 23, 2017, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: Hardy on March 22, 2017, 11:43:40 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 22, 2017, 11:17:45 PM
Just what we need ... more scaremongering from the Foxnews crew... I'll bet this was top story there all day ignoring the dozens of a Americans killed by guns at the same time!

That was a horrible ordeal in London today and my heart goes out to the families who have suffered a terrible and senseless loss!!

Fewer than ten people have died in Britain in "terrorist" attacks in ten years. In the same period over 21,000 have died on the roads. But commentators seem unable or unwilling to accommodate the conclusion that the threat to the individual from politically motivated attacks is 1/2000th of the threat from motor cars. On the contrary, the news media collaborate with the deranged lunatics who carry out these attacks, and with the deranged right-wing nutcases who will feed their xenophobia on this news, by providing them with the achievement of their objective. Non-stop coverage on the BBC throughout the afternoon. Extended news programmes. Hours of coverage again tonight.

In a mediascape with a sense of perspective, wouldn't the ten o'clock news have been, "Five people died today when a man attacked passers-by and police in Westminster. Five people died today in road accidents across Britain. And in sport ..."? Of course I'd still not expect any coverage of the murder of expendable foreign civilians in drone attacks etc.

What a pile of nonsense.......how many would have been killed if the plot to hijack the airlines hadnt been foiled back in 2006.

Much (but not all) of the terrorism has been perpertated by individuals (and their offspring)  who have been allowed/invited into the UK under the Labour Partys multicultural wet dream

And how many people would be alive if there was decent health service? How many would be alive if a ban on texting while driving was properly enforced or the real dangers even recognized by all drivers? How many would be alive if people didn't drive drunk?

The point about risk and perspective is absolutely valid.

The point is that no one sets out to deliberately kill people by not having a decent health service. No one (usually) sets out to kill people by crashing a car. This guy deliberately murdered those people so it's automatically viewed in a different perspective.

The ridiculous, over the top, non-stop hysterical media coverage given to this type of terrorism is entirely disproportionate to the threat it poses.

And it's encouraging it, if anything.

The political and media coverage given to the so called "threat" of immigration and particularly Islamic immigration throughout the western world is an utter nonsense and a fraud which seeks to manufacture a massive problem which doesn't exist. But make enough people think something exists and you might just manufacture a real problem. That's what happening. And that problem isn't immigration. It's the demonisation and vilification of immigrants. Those that claim a "massive problem", generally are the massive problem.

stew

Quote from: J70 on March 23, 2017, 05:08:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 23, 2017, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: Hardy on March 22, 2017, 11:43:40 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 22, 2017, 11:17:45 PM
Just what we need ... more scaremongering from the Foxnews crew... I'll bet this was top story there all day ignoring the dozens of a Americans killed by guns at the same time!

That was a horrible ordeal in London today and my heart goes out to the families who have suffered a terrible and senseless loss!!

Fewer than ten people have died in Britain in "terrorist" attacks in ten years. In the same period over 21,000 have died on the roads. But commentators seem unable or unwilling to accommodate the conclusion that the threat to the individual from politically motivated attacks is 1/2000th of the threat from motor cars. On the contrary, the news media collaborate with the deranged lunatics who carry out these attacks, and with the deranged right-wing nutcases who will feed their xenophobia on this news, by providing them with the achievement of their objective. Non-stop coverage on the BBC throughout the afternoon. Extended news programmes. Hours of coverage again tonight.

In a mediascape with a sense of perspective, wouldn't the ten o'clock news have been, "Five people died today when a man attacked passers-by and police in Westminster. Five people died today in road accidents across Britain. And in sport ..."? Of course I'd still not expect any coverage of the murder of expendable foreign civilians in drone attacks etc.

What a pile of nonsense.......how many would have been killed if the plot to hijack the airlines hadnt been foiled back in 2006.

Much (but not all) of the terrorism has been perpertated by individuals (and their offspring)  who have been allowed/invited into the UK under the Labour Partys multicultural wet dream

And how many people would be alive if there was decent health service? How many would be alive if a ban on texting while driving was properly enforced or the real dangers even recognized by all drivers? How many would be alive if people didn't drive drunk?

The point about risk and perspective is absolutely valid.

Acknowledge the fact that there is an element among the Muslim faithful that is hell bent on eradicating the infidels worldwide and stop with the stupid whataboutery, I am sick and tired of cowards hiding behind glorified  terms like ' risk and perspective' Terms mean f**k all, action and shared intelligence means everything, it is time to hunt these c***ts down and bury them, thank you Merkel and Obama, you two c***ts are the liberal faces that created this Muslim monster, time to stop moddycoddling these f**kers and start prosecuting them!
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

Rossfan

I think you'll find non stop US backing of the rogue State of Israel and US and British illegal invasion of the sovereign state of Iraq, illegal and immoral invasions and bombings and mass murder of civilians in Libya, Syria and Afghanistan
Just might have a little but of something to do with it.
Not to mention arming ISIS.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

whitey

Quote from: J70 on March 23, 2017, 05:08:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 23, 2017, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: Hardy on March 22, 2017, 11:43:40 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 22, 2017, 11:17:45 PM
Just what we need ... more scaremongering from the Foxnews crew... I'll bet this was top story there all day ignoring the dozens of a Americans killed by guns at the same time!

That was a horrible ordeal in London today and my heart goes out to the families who have suffered a terrible and senseless loss!!

Fewer than ten people have died in Britain in "terrorist" attacks in ten years. In the same period over 21,000 have died on the roads. But commentators seem unable or unwilling to accommodate the conclusion that the threat to the individual from politically motivated attacks is 1/2000th of the threat from motor cars. On the contrary, the news media collaborate with the deranged lunatics who carry out these attacks, and with the deranged right-wing nutcases who will feed their xenophobia on this news, by providing them with the achievement of their objective. Non-stop coverage on the BBC throughout the afternoon. Extended news programmes. Hours of coverage again tonight.

In a mediascape with a sense of perspective, wouldn't the ten o'clock news have been, "Five people died today when a man attacked passers-by and police in Westminster. Five people died today in road accidents across Britain. And in sport ..."? Of course I'd still not expect any coverage of the murder of expendable foreign civilians in drone attacks etc.

What a pile of nonsense.......how many would have been killed if the plot to hijack the airlines hadnt been foiled back in 2006.

Much (but not all) of the terrorism has been perpertated by individuals (and their offspring)  who have been allowed/invited into the UK under the Labour Partys multicultural wet dream

And how many people would be alive if there was decent health service? How many would be alive if a ban on texting while driving was properly enforced or the real dangers even recognized by all drivers? How many would be alive if people didn't drive drunk?

The point about risk and perspective is absolutely valid.

Completely false equivalence

Terrorist actions typically backed by, or based on some ideology that is counter to the wellbeing and consent of the majority of the the citizenry.  Someone who accidentally crashes a car has no agenda or ideology that they could be coaxed or persuaded out of