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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #29610 on: June 12, 2018, 12:30:58 PM »
Im surprised that anyoneís surprised.

Have a look at our championship defeats since 2010:

2017: Tyrone 9 pts, Monaghan 8 pts.
2016: Monaghan 19 pts, Longford 4 pts (aet)
2015: Derry 1 pt, Wexford 5 pts
2014: Tyrone 8 pts (R), Kildare 10 pts
2013: Donegal 3 pts, Derry 5 pts
2012: Donegal 11 pts, Mayo 18 pts
2011: Armagh 5 pts, Cork 12 pts

With the exception of Celtic Park in 2015, once our heads dropped, the bangers went completely. Which would suggest the players know/believe theyíre not good enough.

Whether we like it or not, football did change around the turn of this decade. To compete against a top side you have to be structured at the back, which is about management, coaching and shape, and swift and decisive in attack - which is primarily about individual player decision-making. Furthermore, you have to win upwards on 70% of your own restarts, as strong opponents will win more than that of their own.... and you canít win a match with 30% possession. I canít help feeling weíre fundamentally lost in all these accounts. Our defensive shape is set up to give opportunities to hide; marking space instead of making tackles, not getting forward to support ball carriers or winning break ball.

Anyhow, I think itís fair to say that we can no longer look down on Antrim. Not something I thought Iíd ever say. But being honest is good way to start rebuilding.



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« Reply #29611 on: June 12, 2018, 02:37:02 PM »
Was just watching the Down vs Kildare match from 2010, and the difference between this Down team and then is unreal. Sure Down had a better squad back then but that Down team did everything at 100 miles per hour; tacking, breaking forward and forward movement.

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« Reply #29612 on: June 12, 2018, 04:05:18 PM »
Was just watching the Down vs Kildare match from 2010, and the difference between this Down team and then is unreal. Sure Down had a better squad back then but that Down team did everything at 100 miles per hour; tacking, breaking forward and forward movement.

we had mccartan, McIver and tally then though

we had ambrose Rodgers, coulter, hughes, the Clarkes, polie, that team should have beat cork that year
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« Reply #29613 on: June 12, 2018, 04:57:11 PM »
The contribution of Garvey and Rooney in 2010 often goes overlooked. They nullified so many individual threats on opposing teams that year.

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« Reply #29614 on: June 12, 2018, 04:59:16 PM »
The 'Down Way' of reminiscing past glories is evident in those last two posts. We have to look forward if we are to move forward.

I'm away home to watch 1991 again  :)

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« Reply #29615 on: June 12, 2018, 05:57:45 PM »
Enniskillen next Saturday at 5, the reward for last Sundayís efforts!!

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« Reply #29616 on: June 13, 2018, 12:06:54 AM »
Deegan? What has he done to warrant getting the Down senior job? Beat Antrim under 20s?

Just keep giving it to the next player from the 91/94 teams who hasnít had the job yet

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« Reply #29617 on: June 13, 2018, 08:07:37 AM »
By all accounts Deegan reign as under 20 boss has been anything but good. Very unorganised and lads had not a clue when the were training. A very unprofessional set up.

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« Reply #29618 on: June 13, 2018, 09:45:06 AM »
Anyone who was on the Hill in 91 can apply for the Job.

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« Reply #29619 on: June 13, 2018, 09:46:36 AM »
The 'Down Way' of reminiscing past glories is evident in those last two posts. We have to look forward if we are to move forward.

I'm away home to watch 1991 again  :)

incorrect, you have to look every way possible - fact

btw the 1991 final was how football should be played
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« Reply #29620 on: June 13, 2018, 09:49:50 AM »
We need youth Niall McAleenan , Mickey Walsh and Conor Laverty. Thatís an exciting line up

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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #29621 on: June 13, 2018, 11:49:13 AM »
Jesus.
This is getting ridiculous now.


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« Reply #29622 on: June 13, 2018, 12:11:15 PM »
Give us your view Block?

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« Reply #29623 on: June 13, 2018, 12:54:37 PM »
Jesus.
This is getting ridiculous now.
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« Reply #29624 on: June 13, 2018, 02:54:18 PM »
We need youth Niall McAleenan , Mickey Walsh and Conor Laverty. Thatís an exciting line up
With Laverty as player/manager