Tyrone County Football and Hurling

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sensethetone

Quote from: southtyronegael on June 18, 2019, 02:18:58 PM
Now that IL bomber destro is back as Angelo, the big question remains, where the f**k is thebigdog?

Waiting for you to log off lol.

bogball88

Happy birthday STG, hope you had a good one  :D

chieftain

Quote from: sensethetone on June 18, 2019, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on June 18, 2019, 02:18:58 PM
Now that IL bomber destro is back as Angelo, the big question remains, where the f**k is thebigdog?

Waiting for you to log off lol.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

southtyronegael


southtyronegael

I see Roisin Jordan has successfully settled her libel case against newstalk. Full apology included. A downright disgrace what happened to her. The mystery emailer could not be traced by solicitors so I doubt she will receive any apologys from within Tyrone.

southtyronegael

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on June 18, 2019, 07:37:12 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on June 18, 2019, 02:18:58 PM
Now that IL bomber destro is back as Angelo, the big question remains, where the f**k is thebigdog?
The bigger question that actually remains is the one from a couple of months ago that you have failed to answer so far, that being do you reciprocate for your wife when she gives you the occasional rim job?  8)
man u need help. Plenty of porn online without coming on here to get off.

In hiding

Quote from: Angelo on June 18, 2019, 11:23:16 AM
Quote from: In hiding on June 18, 2019, 10:43:18 AM
Quote from: Angelo on June 18, 2019, 10:33:48 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 18, 2019, 10:25:36 AM
I would probably see it from the players point of view. How is sitting on the bench going to improve you as a player when you cant get on for your county and you are not allowed to play for your club.

Forwards especially strive on confidence, but bringing on a forward at say the 50 minute mark who hasn't played much football all season and expecting him to turn the game around is naive at best. Why would a talented player like Lee waste a full year to sit on the tyrone bench when he could be playing for his club every week and getting sharper with each game.

The issue is that Mickey has chopped and changed and neglected the forwards for far too long. Wouldn't listen to Owen talking about staying to fight for a place when him Peter and Steve were guaranteed game time every game. Tyrone need to pick a system and stick with it so players know where they stand.

This does not happen in Mayo, Kerry or Dublin for the simple reason these teams know their system of play inside out and players know they will get a chance. Whereas in Tyrone a forward does not know if they will be playing attacking football one week or 15 men behind the ball the next.

Tell me why Brennan should be starting? We went in to the Donegal game on an impressive run of form. We had won six on the trot over League and Championship. Donnelly and McShane were flying inside and McCurry and McAliskey had impressed off the bench.

He had no real basis for deserving to play. He had the choice to stick it out, bide his time and take his opportunity when it came or throw the towel in. He chose the latter.

After a car crash performance against Donegal there is certain to be changes against Longford and opportunities can arise but he is no longer there to avail of those, by his own choosing.

I can understand his frustration at not playing but that's a decision for next year. He made s commitment to the panel this year and opted out.

I'd like a situation whereby players who aren't getting their minutes with the county teams are freed to play for their clubs but we all know it's the clubs who make a song and dance about access who will kick up a fuss about that.

So according to you..

Its the players fault for not committing all their spare time for your pleasure

It's the clubs fault for wanting access to their players who aren't getting on the county team.

I'm sure you will post a reply to this which will have no relevance to what I have just posted

You're not bright so it's understandable you can't get it.

Brennan can do what he wants but he made a commitment by joining up with the panel this year. He left the team in a lurch because he wasn't getting the minutes he felt he deserved.

I'd be happy if our fringe players who could keep sharp by playing with their clubs but it's not going to happen. The clubs will object to Lee Brennan being allowed play while their own club players can't. We're veering into very dangerous circumstances in Tyrone right now and risk becoming the new Derry.

It's got nothing to do with me. If Lee Brennan decides that he doesn't want to commit, that is his choice. I have no qualms if he can't give the commitment but it seems that it's more having to earn his place that has driven him out. The time to decide was at the start of the year or at the end.

If everyone had the attitude of Brennan we wouldn't have a squad.
Pretty standard from yourself, when you haven't the intelligence to argue the point, attack the messenger rather than the message.
Now you tell us that you have no qualms with Lee Brennan not committing.
Do you ever make yourself dizzy?

GaaFanatic123

Quote from: Redhand Santa on June 18, 2019, 10:56:08 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 18, 2019, 10:25:36 AM
I would probably see it from the players point of view. How is sitting on the bench going to improve you as a player when you cant get on for your county and you are not allowed to play for your club.

Forwards especially strive on confidence, but bringing on a forward at say the 50 minute mark who hasn't played much football all season and expecting him to turn the game around is naive at best. Why would a talented player like Lee waste a full year to sit on the tyrone bench when he could be playing for his club every week and getting sharper with each game.

The issue is that Mickey has chopped and changed and neglected the forwards for far too long. Wouldn't listen to Owen talking about staying to fight for a place when him Peter and Steve were guaranteed game time every game. Tyrone need to pick a system and stick with it so players know where they stand.

This does not happen in Mayo, Kerry or Dublin for the simple reason these teams know their system of play inside out and players know they will get a chance. Whereas in Tyrone a forward does not know if they will be playing attacking football one week or 15 men behind the ball the next.

Brennan did really well coming of the bench against Donegal last year under similar circumstances. He will get some extra game time over the summer with his club but a lot of weeks there won't be any games.

You still play 2/3's of the league games plus playoffs plus championship while on the county panel so its not like you get no club football. And he did get game time for Tyrone early in the year and would no doubt have got more over the summer. Training games and skills work would also be a level well above club training over the summer which can be fragmented with breaks and holidays.

Id imagine like most top club teams in Tyrone Trillick will have a host of top drawer challenge games against some of the top teams from other Countys, Brennan could be getting an extra 10 games for his club (5 starred and say for example 5 challenge games) which is far more beneficial to a panel member on the Tyrone team who was getting at most 20 mins in total for a summers County football

Angelo

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Quote from: In hiding on June 19, 2019, 08:34:34 AM
Quote from: Angelo on June 18, 2019, 11:23:16 AM
Quote from: In hiding on June 18, 2019, 10:43:18 AM
Quote from: Angelo on June 18, 2019, 10:33:48 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 18, 2019, 10:25:36 AM
I would probably see it from the players point of view. How is sitting on the bench going to improve you as a player when you cant get on for your county and you are not allowed to play for your club.

Forwards especially strive on confidence, but bringing on a forward at say the 50 minute mark who hasn't played much football all season and expecting him to turn the game around is naive at best. Why would a talented player like Lee waste a full year to sit on the tyrone bench when he could be playing for his club every week and getting sharper with each game.

The issue is that Mickey has chopped and changed and neglected the forwards for far too long. Wouldn't listen to Owen talking about staying to fight for a place when him Peter and Steve were guaranteed game time every game. Tyrone need to pick a system and stick with it so players know where they stand.

This does not happen in Mayo, Kerry or Dublin for the simple reason these teams know their system of play inside out and players know they will get a chance. Whereas in Tyrone a forward does not know if they will be playing attacking football one week or 15 men behind the ball the next.

Tell me why Brennan should be starting? We went in to the Donegal game on an impressive run of form. We had won six on the trot over League and Championship. Donnelly and McShane were flying inside and McCurry and McAliskey had impressed off the bench.

He had no real basis for deserving to play. He had the choice to stick it out, bide his time and take his opportunity when it came or throw the towel in. He chose the latter.

After a car crash performance against Donegal there is certain to be changes against Longford and opportunities can arise but he is no longer there to avail of those, by his own choosing.

I can understand his frustration at not playing but that's a decision for next year. He made s commitment to the panel this year and opted out.

I'd like a situation whereby players who aren't getting their minutes with the county teams are freed to play for their clubs but we all know it's the clubs who make a song and dance about access who will kick up a fuss about that.

So according to you..

Its the players fault for not committing all their spare time for your pleasure

It's the clubs fault for wanting access to their players who aren't getting on the county team.

I'm sure you will post a reply to this which will have no relevance to what I have just posted

You're not bright so it's understandable you can't get it.

Brennan can do what he wants but he made a commitment by joining up with the panel this year. He left the team in a lurch because he wasn't getting the minutes he felt he deserved.

I'd be happy if our fringe players who could keep sharp by playing with their clubs but it's not going to happen. The clubs will object to Lee Brennan being allowed play while their own club players can't. We're veering into very dangerous circumstances in Tyrone right now and risk becoming the new Derry.

It's got nothing to do with me. If Lee Brennan decides that he doesn't want to commit, that is his choice. I have no qualms if he can't give the commitment but it seems that it's more having to earn his place that has driven him out. The time to decide was at the start of the year or at the end.

If everyone had the attitude of Brennan we wouldn't have a squad.
Pretty standard from yourself, when you haven't the intelligence to argue the point, attack the messenger rather than the message.
Now you tell us that you have no qualms with Lee Brennan not committing.
Do you ever make yourself dizzy?

Point proven, you're not very bright.

I have no problems with players not committing to Tyrone if they find it too much.

I do have a problem with a player giving his commitment for the year then pulling out midway through it because he wasn't happy with the minutes he was getting.

You make a commitment for the season, the decision needs to be made at the start of the year.
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Angelo

Quote from: GaaFanatic123 on June 19, 2019, 08:49:57 AM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on June 18, 2019, 10:56:08 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 18, 2019, 10:25:36 AM
I would probably see it from the players point of view. How is sitting on the bench going to improve you as a player when you cant get on for your county and you are not allowed to play for your club.

Forwards especially strive on confidence, but bringing on a forward at say the 50 minute mark who hasn't played much football all season and expecting him to turn the game around is naive at best. Why would a talented player like Lee waste a full year to sit on the tyrone bench when he could be playing for his club every week and getting sharper with each game.

The issue is that Mickey has chopped and changed and neglected the forwards for far too long. Wouldn't listen to Owen talking about staying to fight for a place when him Peter and Steve were guaranteed game time every game. Tyrone need to pick a system and stick with it so players know where they stand.

This does not happen in Mayo, Kerry or Dublin for the simple reason these teams know their system of play inside out and players know they will get a chance. Whereas in Tyrone a forward does not know if they will be playing attacking football one week or 15 men behind the ball the next.

Brennan did really well coming of the bench against Donegal last year under similar circumstances. He will get some extra game time over the summer with his club but a lot of weeks there won't be any games.

You still play 2/3's of the league games plus playoffs plus championship while on the county panel so its not like you get no club football. And he did get game time for Tyrone early in the year and would no doubt have got more over the summer. Training games and skills work would also be a level well above club training over the summer which can be fragmented with breaks and holidays.

Id imagine like most top club teams in Tyrone Trillick will have a host of top drawer challenge games against some of the top teams from other Countys, Brennan could be getting an extra 10 games for his club (5 starred and say for example 5 challenge games) which is far more beneficial to a panel member on the Tyrone team who was getting at most 20 mins in total for a summers County football

To play club challenge games? They are hardly going to do much for your sharpness. I always found training matches more beneficial that challenge games. Nevermind that the training matches Brennan would play with Tyrone would be at an even higher level.
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BennyHarp

Quote from: GaaFanatic123 on June 19, 2019, 08:49:57 AM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on June 18, 2019, 10:56:08 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 18, 2019, 10:25:36 AM
I would probably see it from the players point of view. How is sitting on the bench going to improve you as a player when you cant get on for your county and you are not allowed to play for your club.

Forwards especially strive on confidence, but bringing on a forward at say the 50 minute mark who hasn't played much football all season and expecting him to turn the game around is naive at best. Why would a talented player like Lee waste a full year to sit on the tyrone bench when he could be playing for his club every week and getting sharper with each game.

The issue is that Mickey has chopped and changed and neglected the forwards for far too long. Wouldn't listen to Owen talking about staying to fight for a place when him Peter and Steve were guaranteed game time every game. Tyrone need to pick a system and stick with it so players know where they stand.

This does not happen in Mayo, Kerry or Dublin for the simple reason these teams know their system of play inside out and players know they will get a chance. Whereas in Tyrone a forward does not know if they will be playing attacking football one week or 15 men behind the ball the next.

Brennan did really well coming of the bench against Donegal last year under similar circumstances. He will get some extra game time over the summer with his club but a lot of weeks there won't be any games.

You still play 2/3's of the league games plus playoffs plus championship while on the county panel so its not like you get no club football. And he did get game time for Tyrone early in the year and would no doubt have got more over the summer. Training games and skills work would also be a level well above club training over the summer which can be fragmented with breaks and holidays.

Id imagine like most top club teams in Tyrone Trillick will have a host of top drawer challenge games against some of the top teams from other Countys, Brennan could be getting an extra 10 games for his club (5 starred and say for example 5 challenge games) which is far more beneficial to a panel member on the Tyrone team who was getting at most 20 mins in total for a summers County football

Yeah im sure its every young lads dream to play a few top level club challenge games rather than potentially starting an AI semi final like Lee did last year.
That was never a square ball!!

GaaFanatic123

Quote from: BennyHarp on June 19, 2019, 11:24:19 AM
Quote from: GaaFanatic123 on June 19, 2019, 08:49:57 AM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on June 18, 2019, 10:56:08 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 18, 2019, 10:25:36 AM
I would probably see it from the players point of view. How is sitting on the bench going to improve you as a player when you cant get on for your county and you are not allowed to play for your club.

Forwards especially strive on confidence, but bringing on a forward at say the 50 minute mark who hasn't played much football all season and expecting him to turn the game around is naive at best. Why would a talented player like Lee waste a full year to sit on the tyrone bench when he could be playing for his club every week and getting sharper with each game.

The issue is that Mickey has chopped and changed and neglected the forwards for far too long. Wouldn't listen to Owen talking about staying to fight for a place when him Peter and Steve were guaranteed game time every game. Tyrone need to pick a system and stick with it so players know where they stand.

This does not happen in Mayo, Kerry or Dublin for the simple reason these teams know their system of play inside out and players know they will get a chance. Whereas in Tyrone a forward does not know if they will be playing attacking football one week or 15 men behind the ball the next.

Brennan did really well coming of the bench against Donegal last year under similar circumstances. He will get some extra game time over the summer with his club but a lot of weeks there won't be any games.

You still play 2/3's of the league games plus playoffs plus championship while on the county panel so its not like you get no club football. And he did get game time for Tyrone early in the year and would no doubt have got more over the summer. Training games and skills work would also be a level well above club training over the summer which can be fragmented with breaks and holidays.

Id imagine like most top club teams in Tyrone Trillick will have a host of top drawer challenge games against some of the top teams from other Countys, Brennan could be getting an extra 10 games for his club (5 starred and say for example 5 challenge games) which is far more beneficial to a panel member on the Tyrone team who was getting at most 20 mins in total for a summers County football

Yeah im sure its every young lads dream to play a few top level club challenge games rather than potentially starting an AI semi final like Lee did last year.

Maybe he'd rather play for his club than Tyrone, fair play to him, its his choice and no one could run him down for that.

GaaFanatic123

Quote from: Angelo on June 19, 2019, 10:33:56 AM
Quote from: GaaFanatic123 on June 19, 2019, 08:49:57 AM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on June 18, 2019, 10:56:08 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 18, 2019, 10:25:36 AM
I would probably see it from the players point of view. How is sitting on the bench going to improve you as a player when you cant get on for your county and you are not allowed to play for your club.

Forwards especially strive on confidence, but bringing on a forward at say the 50 minute mark who hasn't played much football all season and expecting him to turn the game around is naive at best. Why would a talented player like Lee waste a full year to sit on the tyrone bench when he could be playing for his club every week and getting sharper with each game.

The issue is that Mickey has chopped and changed and neglected the forwards for far too long. Wouldn't listen to Owen talking about staying to fight for a place when him Peter and Steve were guaranteed game time every game. Tyrone need to pick a system and stick with it so players know where they stand.

This does not happen in Mayo, Kerry or Dublin for the simple reason these teams know their system of play inside out and players know they will get a chance. Whereas in Tyrone a forward does not know if they will be playing attacking football one week or 15 men behind the ball the next.

Brennan did really well coming of the bench against Donegal last year under similar circumstances. He will get some extra game time over the summer with his club but a lot of weeks there won't be any games.

You still play 2/3's of the league games plus playoffs plus championship while on the county panel so its not like you get no club football. And he did get game time for Tyrone early in the year and would no doubt have got more over the summer. Training games and skills work would also be a level well above club training over the summer which can be fragmented with breaks and holidays.

Id imagine like most top club teams in Tyrone Trillick will have a host of top drawer challenge games against some of the top teams from other Countys, Brennan could be getting an extra 10 games for his club (5 starred and say for example 5 challenge games) which is far more beneficial to a panel member on the Tyrone team who was getting at most 20 mins in total for a summers County football

To play club challenge games? They are hardly going to do much for your sharpness. I always found training matches more beneficial that challenge games. Nevermind that the training matches Brennan would play with Tyrone would be at an even higher level.

Well that's you opinion, maybe the teams you where playing against wernt up to much, personally I think a competitive challenge games would be more beneficial and im sure every manager in tyrone agree otherwise they wudnt play them

Angelo

Quote from: GaaFanatic123 on June 19, 2019, 12:37:22 PM
Quote from: Angelo on June 19, 2019, 10:33:56 AM
Quote from: GaaFanatic123 on June 19, 2019, 08:49:57 AM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on June 18, 2019, 10:56:08 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 18, 2019, 10:25:36 AM
I would probably see it from the players point of view. How is sitting on the bench going to improve you as a player when you cant get on for your county and you are not allowed to play for your club.

Forwards especially strive on confidence, but bringing on a forward at say the 50 minute mark who hasn't played much football all season and expecting him to turn the game around is naive at best. Why would a talented player like Lee waste a full year to sit on the tyrone bench when he could be playing for his club every week and getting sharper with each game.

The issue is that Mickey has chopped and changed and neglected the forwards for far too long. Wouldn't listen to Owen talking about staying to fight for a place when him Peter and Steve were guaranteed game time every game. Tyrone need to pick a system and stick with it so players know where they stand.

This does not happen in Mayo, Kerry or Dublin for the simple reason these teams know their system of play inside out and players know they will get a chance. Whereas in Tyrone a forward does not know if they will be playing attacking football one week or 15 men behind the ball the next.

Brennan did really well coming of the bench against Donegal last year under similar circumstances. He will get some extra game time over the summer with his club but a lot of weeks there won't be any games.

You still play 2/3's of the league games plus playoffs plus championship while on the county panel so its not like you get no club football. And he did get game time for Tyrone early in the year and would no doubt have got more over the summer. Training games and skills work would also be a level well above club training over the summer which can be fragmented with breaks and holidays.

Id imagine like most top club teams in Tyrone Trillick will have a host of top drawer challenge games against some of the top teams from other Countys, Brennan could be getting an extra 10 games for his club (5 starred and say for example 5 challenge games) which is far more beneficial to a panel member on the Tyrone team who was getting at most 20 mins in total for a summers County football

To play club challenge games? They are hardly going to do much for your sharpness. I always found training matches more beneficial that challenge games. Nevermind that the training matches Brennan would play with Tyrone would be at an even higher level.

Well that's you opinion, maybe the teams you where playing against wernt up to much, personally I think a competitive challenge games would be more beneficial and im sure every manager in tyrone agree otherwise they wudnt play them

Challenge matches are non competitive games.
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GetOverTheBar

...Anyway.

Any danger of Tyrone bottling this thing at the weekend v Longford?