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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 21, 2018, 10:10:16 PM »
Whitey, you're presenting the debate as an either/or scenario, and though I'm probably one of those lefties that you describe, I'm also pragmatic. Of course, I'd love to see all guns disappear, but that's an absurdity, as is the idea of repealing the Second Amendment.  So, what I want to see is the sensible gun control measures that you list. That's all.

General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 17, 2018, 09:25:18 PM »
Very courageous of you to share all this, Stew.  Glad to hear you're doing better. 

General discussion / Re: America`s Gun Culture
« on: February 16, 2018, 03:15:56 AM »
Capt, your analysis is simple but true.  As desirable as it might be to ban guns, it simply isn't going to happen, but let's start with the obvious.  Mass shootings.  Yes, deaths from mass shootings constitute only a thin slice of all annual gun deaths, still a ban on military grade weapons like the AR-15 seems like a reasonable thing to do.  Nobody, I mean nobody, needs those weapons. 

I don't know how much worse it can get. Let's take a landmark death, since we seem to be forgetful of or indifferent to the others. They're so frequent, after all. Robert Kennedy's. Since his death in 1968, more than 1.5 miillion, yes one and a half  million, have died from guns in the US, more than the combined total of death in all military conflicts combined, including the Civil War. That's obscene.

So, let's start by banning all absurd weapons. Period. Then let's continue by applying stricter rules to gun ownership and begin by outlawing out-of-the-trunk-of-my-car sales and regulating gun shows even more strictly.

None of this will happen of course because politicians, Republican and Democrat, are owned by the gun lobby. 

And shut the hell up about mental illness.  The mentally ill are not the problem, especially when you're cutting funding for mental health! People have mental health problems in other countries, but they don't amass small arsenals and go on shooting sprees. Guns are the problem, guns and the paid politicians who refuse to enact sensible measures to curb their easy acquisition.

General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 15, 2018, 10:23:46 PM »
There is a mistaken belief that the gunman acted alone.  He did, in fact, have accomplices, aides and abettors--52 in the Senate, 435 in the House, and the NRA.  Consider the number of thoughts and prayers that can be purchased by NRA career donations to current legislators: Florida's own Marco Rubio has taken in a paltry $3.3 million, a pittance compared to John McCain's $7.7 million. All of that has a remarkable ability to exacerbate legislative paralysis.

General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« on: February 15, 2018, 12:01:19 AM »
17 dead. 18th school shooting this year. 18!!

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: February 10, 2018, 04:18:06 AM »
On this point, I have to agree with whitey.  There is concrete evidence that the Russians did interfere with the US elections.  The question is the degree/scope of Trump's and his team's involvement in that interference.

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: February 08, 2018, 09:51:21 PM »
I guess she had to fill time, 8 hours and all, but I suppose she could have whipped out Joyce's Ulysses and outshone Ted Cruz's epic Green Eggs and Ham.

Strictly speaking, and I could be wrong, but I believe that a filibuster is a procedure limited to the Senate, though what she was doing was clearly her own version of a filibuster since in the House a party leader may speak without time limits.

General discussion / Re: American Sports Thread
« on: February 08, 2018, 09:44:14 PM »
Some sources say that if he hadn't been traded, Irving would simply have sat out the season, feigning a leg injury. 

General discussion / Re: American Sports Thread
« on: February 07, 2018, 05:28:18 PM »
National Signing Day for high school football players. Many had signed already, but Georgia is mopping up today, flipping players who had committed to Bama.  Georgia will probably end up #1 today, with Ohio State likely #2.  Right now, Texas is ranked 3, Alabama 4.  Buckeyes doing v well.  Coach Schiano is staying at OSU instead of heading to the Patriots as was thought.

GAA Discussion / Re: 2018 NFL Division 3
« on: February 04, 2018, 06:52:03 PM »
Did it take us about 20 minutes to score over very first point?  Very slow start.

General discussion / Re: Mary Mc Aleese barred from the Vatican
« on: February 03, 2018, 06:06:40 AM »
But isn't Pride another of the 7 Deadly Sins?

General discussion / Re: Mary Mc Aleese barred from the Vatican
« on: February 02, 2018, 11:32:34 PM »
Actually, Tony, a country can decline another's ambassador if that person is guilty of espionage, which of course, Gingrich isn't, but given her credentials don't you think the Vatican might have selected a less morally compromised candidate. Personally, I don't really care, but rejecting McAleese . . .

General discussion / Re: Mary Mc Aleese barred from the Vatican
« on: February 02, 2018, 10:12:35 PM »
And then, no problems with Callista Gingrich's credentials as UN Ambassador to the Vatican, she becoming his third wife and having an affair with him while he was still married.

General discussion / Re: American Sports Thread
« on: February 02, 2018, 03:57:28 PM »
Stew, you ignore my questiona about the physical appearance of the Indians' mascot and pounce on the "Nashville Niggers" remark. No, I dont find "Redskins" as offensive as the word "Niggers." Instead, I brought them up only to point out that each was coined as a derogatory comment about an ethnic group using its skin color as a vehicle--red-skinned and black-skinned.

In bringing up the Cleveland mascot, I was not trying to stir you up; instead, I thought I had picked a subject on which we might have common ground. I did not bring up the Redskins, you did. In fact, I deliberately sought to stay clear of incendiary topics. For example, I ducked the question of college football teams changing their names: e.g. North Dakota Fighting Sioux to the ND Fighting Hawks or the Miami (Ohio) Redskins to the RedHawks.

Stew, in all seriousness, I'd like your opinion of the Indians mascot, and that one alone. Don't you find the red skin, the large hooked nose, the exaggerated leering grin all to be offensive and unsuitable homage to Native Americans. Again, I'd like your honest opinion.

General discussion / Re: American Sports Thread
« on: February 01, 2018, 02:42:25 AM »
Stew, historically whites have used physical attributes in a pejorative, demeaning way to denigrate various ethnic groups. I think in terms of words like "Chinks", "Slants", "Wetbacks" and so on. The meaning of the word "nigger" is "black-skinned", of course, a term coined by the superior to denote the inferior. The same is true of the word "redskin". It is derogatory and contemptuous, and that's why I think it needs to go.

But back to the Indians logo. When I first moved to Cleveland, I believed that the mascot was chosen to honor the first recognized Native American in the Major Leagues, Louis Sockalexis, but I now know that to be untrue. But if it were, and I ask again, do you believe that the Indians' mascot demonstrates admiration, or is it a source of laughter.  I wish you'd answer the questions about it that I pose. Do you think the exaggerated hooked nose reflects respect? Do you think the huge leering grin is a sign of honor, or is it a mocking jibe at Indians' buffoonery? Or the red skin, given my earlier comments about physical attributes?

You ask me when I first started to dislike the name "Redskins." I honestly don't know. I think it evolved over time as I developed a deeper awareness of what Native peoples endured at the hands of white colonists, when I read about the Trail of Tears and read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee. I no longer found the stock images either amusing or likeable. In the same way, I grew up in Armagh playing "tig", chanting the rhyme "Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Mo,/Catch a Nigger By the Toe." However, once I developed a full awareness of what was done to black people--slavery, lynchings, Jim Crow laws--I found the word vile and repugnant.

My feeling about Chief Wahoo is that it is the single most objectionable image in professional sports, and I'm happy that the club has opted to remove it from the team uniform.

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