Brexit.

[rrhf]

Ok so Ni wants to stay part of Europe. Scotland wants to stay also. England and Wales are out on their own. Economic  border at Scotland is not the strangest idea. We could sell stuff to Scotland as well,  like whiskey and fags and they can sell stuff to us like whiskey and fags. We'd be grand.

[seafoid]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/02/tories-war-european-judges-amid-claims-uk-heading-version-brexit/

Malnick, whitehall editor 

2 DECEMBER 2017 • 9:00PM

Theresa May is heading towards a version of Brexit that effectively fails to withdraw Britain from the European Union, a former senior judge and an 
ex-leader of the Tories have warned.

Sir Richard Aikens, a Court of Appeal judge until 2015, told the Prime Minister that a proposed "compromise" on oversight by the European Court of Justice was "dangerous" and would be "tantamount to reversing the result of the 2016 referendum".

His warning comes amid a growing Cabinet row over the plans.

In an article for the Telegraph, Iain Duncan Smith, the former Conservative leader and one of the party's most influential Eurosceptics, agrees with Sir Richard and warns that the move could lead to European judges overseeing trade disputes.

[seafoid]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/02/prepare-corbyn-government-may-hanging-thread-worlds-largest/

"Theresa May is "hanging on by a thread" and businesses should prepare for a government led by Jeremy Corbyn, the world's largest financial exchange operator has warned.

A paper issued by CME Group entitled "What to Expect from a Prime Minister Corbyn" was sent to investors and business leaders last month, and included a prediction that a Labour government would lead to a possible "nightmare scenario for the pound".

It is one of a series of cases of major organisations preparing for Mr Corbyn coming to power in the weeks Mrs May's minority government has been rocked by a series of damaging rows and Cabinet resignations, as well as growing uncertainty over negotiations with Brussels over Britain's departure from the European Union."

Here is the paper :

http://www.cmegroup.com/education/featured-reports/uk-what-to-expect-from-a-prime-minister-corbyn.html

Very interesting.

[seafoid]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/03/irish-citizens-special-rights-in-uk-at-risk

Irish citizens in Britain could lose their right to live, work and get NHS services in the country after Brexit, according to a new report that warns that the special status enjoyed by thousands of Irish in the UK is far from secure.

Laws governing their status are a "patchwork" that could fall apart under post-Brexit political and practical pressures, says the report, which comes before Monday's launch of a campaign urging the UK government to pass legislation that would guarantee the longstanding rights of Irish citizens.

The document, drawn up by legal experts on behalf of the Irish Traveller Movement(ITM), concludes that many of the rights currently enjoyed by Irish nationals in the UK exist only because they are EU citizens. It warns that the Irish might be caught up in the so-called "hostile environment" policyon migrants that Theresa May originally created when home secretary, and which critics say is increasingly affecting a much wider range of people. The report highlights a range of scenarios that could arise if the UK ends the special rights of EU citizens without making new legal provision for the Irish. These include exclusion from free NHS treatment, cash benefits and certain social welfare payments.

The lack of clarity on the status of Irish nationals could also make the British citizenship of their children unclear, warns the document.

The ITM commissioned the research following concerns about the impact of Brexit on Irish travellers in Britain, a distinct ethnic minority of about 100,000 people who already face significant prejudice.

The document is released against the background of increased concern about the language used by some sections of the media, as well as among Tory and Ukip politicians who have sought to blame Irelandfor the current impasse in the Brexit talks.

Conor McGinn, a Labour MP, said: "I am very worried about this moment in British and Irish relations. Outside Northern Ireland no one has benefited more from the good relations than the Irish community in Britain, but now people are growing very concerned at some of the rhetoric coming from the Tory backbenches and the rightwing press, which does lend itself to hostility to the Irish community. Increasingly bellicose statements about Ireland do have an impact on that community

[Dubh driocht]

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2017/1201/924399-brexit-deadline-uk/
Another comprehensive summary from Tony Connelly.
Picking up on Seafoid's quote from Conor McGinn, you really have to ask how McGinn and Kate Hoey could be in the same party? Hoey is MP for Vauxhall, which has a high percentage of people of Irish heritage, particularly in the Labour party. How can she get away with the racist anti-Irish bigotry of recent weeks and not face censure or even de-selection from the Vauxhall Labour party? If anyone has friends or connections there, now is the time to use them. The diaspora are needed to play their part more than ever before.

[Milltown Row2]

Why any Irish person would intentionally live in Britain is a strange one considering (as Seafoid has pointed out, every time!) its economic situation and poor NHS service plus hatred for all things Irish

[armaghniac]

If the Brexiteers figure out that they can deport the travellers back to Ireland, there'll be no stopping them.

[seafoid]

If the Brexiteers figure out that they can deport the travellers back to Ireland, there'll be no stopping them.

The UK must have more Irish travellers than Ireland

[Milltown Row2]

Just cause they've an Irish accent doesn't make them Irish

[heganboy]

Just cause they've an Irish accent doesn't make them Irish

Your post code must make you British

[Milltown Row2]

Just cause they've an Irish accent doesn't make them Irish

Your post code must make you British

What's you point?

[Syferus]

Just cause they've an Irish accent doesn't make them Irish

Your post code must make you British

What's you point?

Identity isn't tied to where you're born.

[Rossfan]

Just cause they've an Irish accent doesn't make them Irish

Your post code must make you British

What's you point?

Identity isn't tied to where you're born.

If it was you'd be a Rhubarb
Milltown really loves GB/UK.

[Milltown Row2]

Just cause they've an Irish accent doesn't make them Irish

Your post code must make you British

What's you point?

Identity isn't tied to where you're born.

And? I just said that just because they have an Irish accent doesn't make them Irish... I've Asian neighbors who have a Pakistan accent but born here.. they won't be deported though, will Irish passport holders be deported 

Just cause they've an Irish accent doesn't make them Irish

Your post code must make you British

What's you point?

Identity isn't tied to where you're born.

If it was you'd be a Rhubarb
Milltown really loves GB/UK.

I love where I'm from, if I wanted to move to Roscommon though I could but I heard it's shit

[balladmaker]

Sounded like a softening of attitude from Simon Coveney in his TV interview today ... all Ireland want's is an agreed parameter ref. the border issue, a resolution for it can wait until phase 2 of the negotiations ... hmmm.