Apple's data centre in Athenry

Started by Maroon Manc, October 12, 2017, 11:40:59 AM

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Franko

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 13, 2017, 06:10:13 PM
If I had my way then the only way a private individual could block something like this would be if they gather 200 signatures within a fortnight of the announcement of the plan and each one of them has to be able to show how they're affected. If the names and addresses are then verified by the planning agency and they're satisfied that everyone on the list is affected, only then can the court look into blocking it, but if not, the plan goes ahead. I'm all in favour of letting the public have their say, but it can't be so easy that one or two people can block a project like this.

Environmental impacts are another matter, you have to keep an eye on that sort of thing because natural habitats are still important.

Tripe.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: hardstation on October 14, 2017, 12:21:14 AM
Without knowing anything about this, these people are holding out for big money and are anti-modern technology anyway. They should bulldoze all their houses and build a Tesco, not before letting drug dealers hang about though.
Now yer talking. Tescos @Owenvarragh.


armaghniac

You'll always have NIMBYs and planning has to be investigated. It is  justice delayed is justice denied, this idea that you schedule something in court in 6 months or a years time. They'll complain about NIMBYs but they won't do the obvious and speed up the courts.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Avondhu star

The politicians who claim to be in favour of development at national level are the very ones who back the nimbus. Ross and Varadkar come to mind
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you

Syferus

Apple will get some manner of kickback or concession by sabre-rattling and it will go ahead. Cook's wheelhouse is operations - this is where he's most comfortable and knows when to press an advantage. With the on-going tax case it's in Apple's interests to remain cosy with the Irish government.

heganboy

minimal economic impact to Ireland, only intelligent in the context of continued apple (actual employment) investment
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

omochain


seafoid

In a few years Apple and FB and Google will be broken up. They are monopolies that do very little for society.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Syferus

Quote from: seafoid on November 06, 2017, 08:48:55 AM
In a few years Apple and FB and Google will be broken up. They are monopolies that do very little for society.

No, they won't.

You've combined three companies there that are very different. Apple have little interest in collecting personal data, as opposed to the other two whose business models is based around scraping data. Apple make their money almost entirely by selling consumer goods.

seafoid

Quote from: Syferus on November 06, 2017, 09:26:26 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 06, 2017, 08:48:55 AM
In a few years Apple and FB and Google will be broken up. They are monopolies that do very little for society.

No, they won't.

You've combined three companies there that are very different. Apple have little interest in collecting personal data, as opposed to the other two whose business models is based around scraping data. Apple make their money almost entirely by selling consumer goods.
Anti trust is the next stage of capitalism. Monopoly break up. Standard Oil was broken into 34 companies. JP Morgan was broken up
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

theskull1

It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Denn Forever

Building a stateof the art facility?  Plenty of state of the art facilities lying vacant in Kildare,  County Galwat and Dublin.  We need another white elephant.
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

magpie seanie

Quote from: Denn Forever on November 06, 2017, 12:28:02 PM
Building a stateof the art facility?  Plenty of state of the art facilities lying vacant in Kildare,  County Galwat and Dublin.  We need another white elephant.

It should be built somewhere that the jobs are needed like Sligo or Donegal.

Syferus

Quote from: seafoid on November 06, 2017, 11:29:58 AM
Quote from: Syferus on November 06, 2017, 09:26:26 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 06, 2017, 08:48:55 AM
In a few years Apple and FB and Google will be broken up. They are monopolies that do very little for society.

No, they won't.

You've combined three companies there that are very different. Apple have little interest in collecting personal data, as opposed to the other two whose business models is based around scraping data. Apple make their money almost entirely by selling consumer goods.
Anti trust is the next stage of capitalism. Monopoly break up. Standard Oil was broken into 34 companies. JP Morgan was broken up

Apple have 30% or so of the US smartphone market while Android has 65% - there is no monopoly, but obviously you didn't check your facts on this one.

Apple make the most profit because their marketing, operations and, generally, the end products are so good.