FAI...New Manager Hunt continues

Started by CĂșig huaire, November 19, 2009, 01:34:00 PM

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Capt Pat

Quote from: Avondhu star on November 12, 2017, 12:06:31 AM
Useless. Please put them out of our misery ontuesaday. A hotch pot of championship and lower Premiership players. Is someone actually paying Keane?

What are you complaining about? What would Holland or even Italy give to be in our position right now? We can seal the deal on Tuesday.

macdanger2

Quote from: Capt Pat on November 12, 2017, 12:34:36 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on November 12, 2017, 12:06:31 AM
Useless. Please put them out of our misery ontuesaday. A hotch pot of championship and lower Premiership players. Is someone actually paying Keane?

What are you complaining about? What would Holland or even Italy give to be in our position right now? We can seal the deal on Tuesday.

Exactly. You'd wonder why people are expecting Barcelona from us ffs. It's not great to watch but considering the amount of time international managers have with players and the pressure there is to qualify, we're doing okay

StGallsGAA

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Quote from: Avondhu star on November 12, 2017, 12:06:31 AM
Useless. Please put them out of our misery ontuesaday. A hotch pot of championship and lower Premiership players. Is someone actually paying Keane?
Yes, you'd wonder why O'Neill isn't putting out a team made up of players from big 6 in the premier league!  Knob.

seafoid

RTE:

"Ireland had a great chance to win it in the 89th minute and take an away goal back "

Soccer is partitionist. Rugby isn't
GAA isn't.  The rugby team can be called Ireland. So can the compromise rules team. The soccer team can't.  Ulster does not have 3 counties
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

stew

Quote from: seafoid on November 12, 2017, 02:18:22 PM
RTE:

"Ireland had a great chance to win it in the 89th minute and take an away goal back "

Soccer is partitionist. Rugby isn't
GAA isn't.  The rugby team can be called Ireland. So can the compromise rules team. The soccer team can't.  Ulster does not have 3 counties

People can call the team whatever they want to call the team so you are wrong!
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

Esmarelda

Quote from: macdanger2 on November 12, 2017, 01:28:10 AM
Quote from: Capt Pat on November 12, 2017, 12:34:36 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on November 12, 2017, 12:06:31 AM
Useless. Please put them out of our misery ontuesaday. A hotch pot of championship and lower Premiership players. Is someone actually paying Keane?

What are you complaining about? What would Holland or even Italy give to be in our position right now? We can seal the deal on Tuesday.

Exactly. You'd wonder why people are expecting Barcelona from us ffs. It's not great to watch but considering the amount of time international managers have with players and the pressure there is to qualify, we're doing okay
I assume you enjoy watching soccer generally. If so, do you enjoy watching Ireland play?

Esmarelda

Quote from: thewobbler on November 11, 2017, 10:27:11 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 11, 2017, 10:10:02 PM
Ireland punching well above their weight to even be in the mix at this stage. They hardly gave eriksen a kick. Great performance. What are u lads expecting?

It's like this.

Everything up to now is irrelevant as it's a one on one playoff.

If the World Cup is a good standard (which it could be) then Ireland won't get out of their group. If it's a very good standard (which it might be), Ireland will be humiliated. There is no chance, none at all, of this group of individuals making quarter finals or beyond, no matter how well coached.

So the style of football that got us tonight doesn't matter. Planning for the future doesn't matter either.

So why not just simply accept that tonight we were playing a bang average team but one who wanted to play a little. If Ireland had have tried to play a little we might have lost, we might have won, nobody knows. But as a nation we might have enjoyed it. Anyone who enjoyed what they saw tonight is defected and needs sent back.
Iceland reached the quarter finals of the Euros last year. Are they an above average group of players? Did they just launch the ball forward aimlessly?

thewobbler

Just for the record, not wanting to watch Wimbledon minus Harford and Fashanu, does not create an expectation for Barcelona.

There are a dozen clear variations in styles between a and b.

Also, for the record, Wimbledon (with Hash and/or Hanford)at least had an attacking focus. This, ultimately is why I hate watching this Irish team. I've no problem with territorial play. But booting the ball to the corner flag, unless you've speed out wide, is not the same thing

thewobbler

Quote from: Esmarelda on November 12, 2017, 03:23:50 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on November 11, 2017, 10:27:11 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 11, 2017, 10:10:02 PM
Ireland punching well above their weight to even be in the mix at this stage. They hardly gave eriksen a kick. Great performance. What are u lads expecting?

It's like this.

Everything up to now is irrelevant as it's a one on one playoff.

If the World Cup is a good standard (which it could be) then Ireland won't get out of their group. If it's a very good standard (which it might be), Ireland will be humiliated. There is no chance, none at all, of this group of individuals making quarter finals or beyond, no matter how well coached.

So the style of football that got us tonight doesn't matter. Planning for the future doesn't matter either.

So why not just simply accept that tonight we were playing a bang average team but one who wanted to play a little. If Ireland had have tried to play a little we might have lost, we might have won, nobody knows. But as a nation we might have enjoyed it. Anyone who enjoyed what they saw tonight is defected and needs sent back.
Iceland reached the quarter finals of the Euros last year. Are they an above average group of players? Did they just launch the ball forward aimlessly?

Iceland are a defensive team who counter attack with intent. Which makes them 50% better than Ireland.

Esmarelda

Quote from: thewobbler on November 12, 2017, 03:29:03 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on November 12, 2017, 03:23:50 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on November 11, 2017, 10:27:11 PM
Quote from: Mickey Linden on November 11, 2017, 10:10:02 PM
Ireland punching well above their weight to even be in the mix at this stage. They hardly gave eriksen a kick. Great performance. What are u lads expecting?

It's like this.

Everything up to now is irrelevant as it's a one on one playoff.

If the World Cup is a good standard (which it could be) then Ireland won't get out of their group. If it's a very good standard (which it might be), Ireland will be humiliated. There is no chance, none at all, of this group of individuals making quarter finals or beyond, no matter how well coached.

So the style of football that got us tonight doesn't matter. Planning for the future doesn't matter either.

So why not just simply accept that tonight we were playing a bang average team but one who wanted to play a little. If Ireland had have tried to play a little we might have lost, we might have won, nobody knows. But as a nation we might have enjoyed it. Anyone who enjoyed what they saw tonight is defected and needs sent back.
Iceland reached the quarter finals of the Euros last year. Are they an above average group of players? Did they just launch the ball forward aimlessly?

Iceland are a defensive team who counter attack with intent. Which makes them 50% better than Ireland.
So they're coached that way? You said Ireland won't progress regardless of coaching. Why not?

thewobbler

Because they're a mediocre bunch of footballers who have been coached into playing a system that has no room for continuity, flair or intuition. Which means that when they go a goal down va a better side, they simply don't have the belief or experience to make a game of it.

The World Cup will bea horror show if we get there

Esmarelda

Quote from: thewobbler on November 12, 2017, 03:38:37 PM
Because they're a mediocre bunch of footballers who have been coached into playing a system that has no room for continuity, flair or intuition. Which means that when they go a goal down va a better side, they simply don't have the belief or experience to make a game of it.

The World Cup will bea horror show if we get there
I think you're intentionally avoiding my question. What's the difference between Ireland and Iceland with regards to progressing at the world cup? My point is that we can be coached to achieve better than you're suggesting.

thewobbler

Quote from: Esmarelda on November 12, 2017, 03:39:54 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on November 12, 2017, 03:38:37 PM
Because they're a mediocre bunch of footballers who have been coached into playing a system that has no room for continuity, flair or intuition. Which means that when they go a goal down va a better side, they simply don't have the belief or experience to make a game of it.

The World Cup will bea horror show if we get there
I think you're intentionally avoiding my question. What's the difference between Ireland and Iceland with regards to progressing at the world cup? My point is that we can be coached to achieve better than you're suggesting.

Jesus I'm not avoiding the point.

Iceland are a limited side who've worked out if they counter attack with intent, they can spoil and beat better teams.

Ireland have absolutely no game plan / tactics for counter attacking. They just boot the ball away. It's kot possession football, it's not territory football, it's shot football.

Esmarelda

Quote from: thewobbler on November 12, 2017, 03:44:01 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on November 12, 2017, 03:39:54 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on November 12, 2017, 03:38:37 PM
Because they're a mediocre bunch of footballers who have been coached into playing a system that has no room for continuity, flair or intuition. Which means that when they go a goal down va a better side, they simply don't have the belief or experience to make a game of it.

The World Cup will bea horror show if we get there
I think you're intentionally avoiding my question. What's the difference between Ireland and Iceland with regards to progressing at the world cup? My point is that we can be coached to achieve better than you're suggesting.

Jesus I'm not avoiding the point.

Iceland are a limited side who've worked out if they counter attack with intent, they can spoil and beat better teams.

Ireland have absolutely no game plan / tactics for counter attacking. They just boot the ball away. It's kot possession football, it's not territory football, it's shot football.
Ok, but if we had a different coach, could we not be coached to play differently and, potentially, be more effective as Iceland are?

seafoid

Neither Trap nor the current regime seem(ed) to have much faith in the players.They are mostly journeymen.
The money in the English game really did a lot of damage.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU