Tyrone County Football and Hurling

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bigtogs

Just watched Monaghan goal again....

Very poor defending McNamee jogs back McCann stopped altogether.6 Tyrone defenders back in that area of the field not one got hands near Corey....really poor stuff altogether...

ose 14

monaghan fully merited the win looked a lot leaner than a top heavy tyrone. they are  also quicker in their thought processes and decision making that comes from good coaching and an excellent backroom. tyrone lost out because of their overall defensive gameplan. it depends on one thing being in front at all times the goal before halftime was equivalent to o callaghans  game over. game over on the sideline that is not with the players. harte has constantly backed his strategy even in the light of such a pyschologically damaging defeat last august. to finish the game in such dissaray backs the notion that he will continue to do what he wants despite the criticism and tactical naievity. the centre of our defence remains porous mcnamee burns wont cut it against top players and cavnagh never fit to sweep and hes to slow, 32 legs are gone for that job ,he might be able to horse about in the middle and school mcclure. stubborness over the groundswell opinion that the defensive gamepan no longer cuts it just reinforces the idea that the old man is no longer relevant at the tactical top table. conservatism and age go hand in hand in politics life and football. hard to watch, need for some pride to be reinstored in a respected football jersey. i think the players have had enough.

Thebigdog

Quote from: ose 14 on May 22, 2018, 06:51:21 AM
monaghan fully merited the win looked a lot leaner than a top heavy tyrone. they are  also quicker in their thought processes and decision making that comes from good coaching and an excellent backroom. tyrone lost out because of their overall defensive gameplan. it depends on one thing being in front at all times the goal before halftime was equivalent to o callaghans  game over. game over on the sideline that is not with the players. harte has constantly backed his strategy even in the light of such a pyschologically damaging defeat last august. to finish the game in such dissaray backs the notion that he will continue to do what he wants despite the criticism and tactical naievity. the centre of our defence remains porous mcnamee burns wont cut it against top players and cavnagh never fit to sweep and hes to slow, 32 legs are gone for that job ,he might be able to horse about in the middle and school mcclure. stubborness over the groundswell opinion that the defensive gamepan no longer cuts it just reinforces the idea that the old man is no longer relevant at the tactical top table. conservatism and age go hand in hand in politics life and football. hard to watch, need for some pride to be reinstored in a respected football jersey. i think the players have had enough.
It will only be the players who can get rid of him at this stage. The arrogance shown by the Tyrone county board regarding Harte proves their is no point looking at them to do something.

Tyrone Gaa

Quote from: Thebigdog on May 22, 2018, 07:29:01 AM
Quote from: ose 14 on May 22, 2018, 06:51:21 AM
monaghan fully merited the win looked a lot leaner than a top heavy tyrone. they are  also quicker in their thought processes and decision making that comes from good coaching and an excellent backroom. tyrone lost out because of their overall defensive gameplan. it depends on one thing being in front at all times the goal before halftime was equivalent to o callaghans  game over. game over on the sideline that is not with the players. harte has constantly backed his strategy even in the light of such a pyschologically damaging defeat last august. to finish the game in such dissaray backs the notion that he will continue to do what he wants despite the criticism and tactical naievity. the centre of our defence remains porous mcnamee burns wont cut it against top players and cavnagh never fit to sweep and hes to slow, 32 legs are gone for that job ,he might be able to horse about in the middle and school mcclure. stubborness over the groundswell opinion that the defensive gamepan no longer cuts it just reinforces the idea that the old man is no longer relevant at the tactical top table. conservatism and age go hand in hand in politics life and football. hard to watch, need for some pride to be reinstored in a respected football jersey. i think the players have had enough.
It will only be the players who can get rid of him at this stage. The arrogance shown by the Tyrone county board regarding Harte proves their is no point looking at them to do something.

The players won't say a word, they are all in a controlled environment when selected to represent our county. The RTE ban it takes you to leave the panel before you can give an interview. Cavanagh, Ricey, McGuigan and Jordan all expressed their freedoms after leaving the panel. Cavanagh is only now able to voice issues about style and a rigid structure. This would suggest that he wasn't able to question Mickey. He has 2 nodding dogs in Devlin and O'Neill in beside him. The prayers before games is another example how Mickey rules the roost. I don't know of any club that does this.
Living the dream!!!

Thebigdog

Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on May 22, 2018, 07:50:55 AM
Quote from: Thebigdog on May 22, 2018, 07:29:01 AM
Quote from: ose 14 on May 22, 2018, 06:51:21 AM
monaghan fully merited the win looked a lot leaner than a top heavy tyrone. they are  also quicker in their thought processes and decision making that comes from good coaching and an excellent backroom. tyrone lost out because of their overall defensive gameplan. it depends on one thing being in front at all times the goal before halftime was equivalent to o callaghans  game over. game over on the sideline that is not with the players. harte has constantly backed his strategy even in the light of such a pyschologically damaging defeat last august. to finish the game in such dissaray backs the notion that he will continue to do what he wants despite the criticism and tactical naievity. the centre of our defence remains porous mcnamee burns wont cut it against top players and cavnagh never fit to sweep and hes to slow, 32 legs are gone for that job ,he might be able to horse about in the middle and school mcclure. stubborness over the groundswell opinion that the defensive gamepan no longer cuts it just reinforces the idea that the old man is no longer relevant at the tactical top table. conservatism and age go hand in hand in politics life and football. hard to watch, need for some pride to be reinstored in a respected football jersey. i think the players have had enough.
It will only be the players who can get rid of him at this stage. The arrogance shown by the Tyrone county board regarding Harte proves their is no point looking at them to do something.

The players won't say a word, they are all in a controlled environment when selected to represent our county. The RTE ban it takes you to leave the panel before you can give an interview. Cavanagh, Ricey, McGuigan and Jordan all expressed their freedoms after leaving the panel. Cavanagh is only now able to voice issues about style and a rigid structure. This would suggest that he wasn't able to question Mickey. He has 2 nodding dogs in Devlin and O'Neill in beside him. The prayers before games is another example how Mickey rules the roost. I don't know of any club that does this.
IL say one thing, and this has been proven in history the world over getting rid of a dictator has been always been a messy affair. I don't think we can underestimate how bad a place Tyrone are in at the minute.

bigtogs

Quote from: Thebigdog on May 22, 2018, 08:09:23 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on May 22, 2018, 07:50:55 AM
Quote from: Thebigdog on May 22, 2018, 07:29:01 AM
Quote from: ose 14 on May 22, 2018, 06:51:21 AM
monaghan fully merited the win looked a lot leaner than a top heavy tyrone. they are  also quicker in their thought processes and decision making that comes from good coaching and an excellent backroom. tyrone lost out because of their overall defensive gameplan. it depends on one thing being in front at all times the goal before halftime was equivalent to o callaghans  game over. game over on the sideline that is not with the players. harte has constantly backed his strategy even in the light of such a pyschologically damaging defeat last august. to finish the game in such dissaray backs the notion that he will continue to do what he wants despite the criticism and tactical naievity. the centre of our defence remains porous mcnamee burns wont cut it against top players and cavnagh never fit to sweep and hes to slow, 32 legs are gone for that job ,he might be able to horse about in the middle and school mcclure. stubborness over the groundswell opinion that the defensive gamepan no longer cuts it just reinforces the idea that the old man is no longer relevant at the tactical top table. conservatism and age go hand in hand in politics life and football. hard to watch, need for some pride to be reinstored in a respected football jersey. i think the players have had enough.
It will only be the players who can get rid of him at this stage. The arrogance shown by the Tyrone county board regarding Harte proves their is no point looking at them to do something.

The players won't say a word, they are all in a controlled environment when selected to represent our county. The RTE ban it takes you to leave the panel before you can give an interview. Cavanagh, Ricey, McGuigan and Jordan all expressed their freedoms after leaving the panel. Cavanagh is only now able to voice issues about style and a rigid structure. This would suggest that he wasn't able to question Mickey. He has 2 nodding dogs in Devlin and O'Neill in beside him. The prayers before games is another example how Mickey rules the roost. I don't know of any club that does this.
IL say one thing, and this has been proven in history the world over getting rid of a dictator has been always been a messy affair. I don't think we can underestimate how bad a place Tyrone are in at the minute.


Where will it end up? Mickey likes controversy we all know that from before..... he has hold in the right places.... Mickey seems to have his nose still stuck in affairs that does not involve football like sponsorship and some financial matters that should not be the concern of a football manager.....it all will not end good in my opinion....

Christmas Lights

Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on May 22, 2018, 07:50:55 AM
Quote from: Thebigdog on May 22, 2018, 07:29:01 AM
Quote from: ose 14 on May 22, 2018, 06:51:21 AM
monaghan fully merited the win looked a lot leaner than a top heavy tyrone. they are  also quicker in their thought processes and decision making that comes from good coaching and an excellent backroom. tyrone lost out because of their overall defensive gameplan. it depends on one thing being in front at all times the goal before halftime was equivalent to o callaghans  game over. game over on the sideline that is not with the players. harte has constantly backed his strategy even in the light of such a pyschologically damaging defeat last august. to finish the game in such dissaray backs the notion that he will continue to do what he wants despite the criticism and tactical naievity. the centre of our defence remains porous mcnamee burns wont cut it against top players and cavnagh never fit to sweep and hes to slow, 32 legs are gone for that job ,he might be able to horse about in the middle and school mcclure. stubborness over the groundswell opinion that the defensive gamepan no longer cuts it just reinforces the idea that the old man is no longer relevant at the tactical top table. conservatism and age go hand in hand in politics life and football. hard to watch, need for some pride to be reinstored in a respected football jersey. i think the players have had enough.
It will only be the players who can get rid of him at this stage. The arrogance shown by the Tyrone county board regarding Harte proves their is no point looking at them to do something.

The players won't say a word, they are all in a controlled environment when selected to represent our county. The RTE ban it takes you to leave the panel before you can give an interview. Cavanagh, Ricey, McGuigan and Jordan all expressed their freedoms after leaving the panel. Cavanagh is only now able to voice issues about style and a rigid structure. This would suggest that he wasn't able to question Mickey. He has 2 nodding dogs in Devlin and O'Neill in beside him. The prayers before games is another example how Mickey rules the roost. I don't know of any club that does this.

Prayers before games???  Whats this about?? 

redzone

Anybody want have a go at naming the u20 team for Friday night. We got beat at minor level by derry but I think we under performed that day, especially in the second half

Norf Tyrone

Quote from: redzone on May 22, 2018, 10:28:24 AM
Anybody want have a go at naming the u20 team for Friday night. We got beat at minor level by derry but I think we under performed that day, especially in the second half

Is there a squad list anywhere?
Owen Roe O'Neills GAC, Leckpatrick, Tyrone

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 22, 2018, 10:21:06 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on May 22, 2018, 07:50:55 AM
Quote from: Thebigdog on May 22, 2018, 07:29:01 AM
Quote from: ose 14 on May 22, 2018, 06:51:21 AM
monaghan fully merited the win looked a lot leaner than a top heavy tyrone. they are  also quicker in their thought processes and decision making that comes from good coaching and an excellent backroom. tyrone lost out because of their overall defensive gameplan. it depends on one thing being in front at all times the goal before halftime was equivalent to o callaghans  game over. game over on the sideline that is not with the players. harte has constantly backed his strategy even in the light of such a pyschologically damaging defeat last august. to finish the game in such dissaray backs the notion that he will continue to do what he wants despite the criticism and tactical naievity. the centre of our defence remains porous mcnamee burns wont cut it against top players and cavnagh never fit to sweep and hes to slow, 32 legs are gone for that job ,he might be able to horse about in the middle and school mcclure. stubborness over the groundswell opinion that the defensive gamepan no longer cuts it just reinforces the idea that the old man is no longer relevant at the tactical top table. conservatism and age go hand in hand in politics life and football. hard to watch, need for some pride to be reinstored in a respected football jersey. i think the players have had enough.
It will only be the players who can get rid of him at this stage. The arrogance shown by the Tyrone county board regarding Harte proves their is no point looking at them to do something.

The players won't say a word, they are all in a controlled environment when selected to represent our county. The RTE ban it takes you to leave the panel before you can give an interview. Cavanagh, Ricey, McGuigan and Jordan all expressed their freedoms after leaving the panel. Cavanagh is only now able to voice issues about style and a rigid structure. This would suggest that he wasn't able to question Mickey. He has 2 nodding dogs in Devlin and O'Neill in beside him. The prayers before games is another example how Mickey rules the roost. I don't know of any club that does this.

Prayers before games???  Whats this about??

The players are encouraged/forced to take part in the rosary before games. McCarron talked about it in his book and I think McNamee done an interview on it last summer - maybe around the Dublin game if I remember correctly.


longballin

Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 22, 2018, 10:21:06 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on May 22, 2018, 07:50:55 AM
Quote from: Thebigdog on May 22, 2018, 07:29:01 AM
Quote from: ose 14 on May 22, 2018, 06:51:21 AM
monaghan fully merited the win looked a lot leaner than a top heavy tyrone. they are  also quicker in their thought processes and decision making that comes from good coaching and an excellent backroom. tyrone lost out because of their overall defensive gameplan. it depends on one thing being in front at all times the goal before halftime was equivalent to o callaghans  game over. game over on the sideline that is not with the players. harte has constantly backed his strategy even in the light of such a pyschologically damaging defeat last august. to finish the game in such dissaray backs the notion that he will continue to do what he wants despite the criticism and tactical naievity. the centre of our defence remains porous mcnamee burns wont cut it against top players and cavnagh never fit to sweep and hes to slow, 32 legs are gone for that job ,he might be able to horse about in the middle and school mcclure. stubborness over the groundswell opinion that the defensive gamepan no longer cuts it just reinforces the idea that the old man is no longer relevant at the tactical top table. conservatism and age go hand in hand in politics life and football. hard to watch, need for some pride to be reinstored in a respected football jersey. i think the players have had enough.
It will only be the players who can get rid of him at this stage. The arrogance shown by the Tyrone county board regarding Harte proves their is no point looking at them to do something.

The players won't say a word, they are all in a controlled environment when selected to represent our county. The RTE ban it takes you to leave the panel before you can give an interview. Cavanagh, Ricey, McGuigan and Jordan all expressed their freedoms after leaving the panel. Cavanagh is only now able to voice issues about style and a rigid structure. This would suggest that he wasn't able to question Mickey. He has 2 nodding dogs in Devlin and O'Neill in beside him. The prayers before games is another example how Mickey rules the roost. I don't know of any club that does this.

Prayers before games???  Whats this about??

Sunday - the sorrowful mysteries.

Oghams Law

Quote from: longballin on May 22, 2018, 10:41:18 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 22, 2018, 10:21:06 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on May 22, 2018, 07:50:55 AM
Quote from: Thebigdog on May 22, 2018, 07:29:01 AM
Quote from: ose 14 on May 22, 2018, 06:51:21 AM
monaghan fully merited the win looked a lot leaner than a top heavy tyrone. they are  also quicker in their thought processes and decision making that comes from good coaching and an excellent backroom. tyrone lost out because of their overall defensive gameplan. it depends on one thing being in front at all times the goal before halftime was equivalent to o callaghans  game over. game over on the sideline that is not with the players. harte has constantly backed his strategy even in the light of such a pyschologically damaging defeat last august. to finish the game in such dissaray backs the notion that he will continue to do what he wants despite the criticism and tactical naievity. the centre of our defence remains porous mcnamee burns wont cut it against top players and cavnagh never fit to sweep and hes to slow, 32 legs are gone for that job ,he might be able to horse about in the middle and school mcclure. stubborness over the groundswell opinion that the defensive gamepan no longer cuts it just reinforces the idea that the old man is no longer relevant at the tactical top table. conservatism and age go hand in hand in politics life and football. hard to watch, need for some pride to be reinstored in a respected football jersey. i think the players have had enough.
It will only be the players who can get rid of him at this stage. The arrogance shown by the Tyrone county board regarding Harte proves their is no point looking at them to do something.

The players won't say a word, they are all in a controlled environment when selected to represent our county. The RTE ban it takes you to leave the panel before you can give an interview. Cavanagh, Ricey, McGuigan and Jordan all expressed their freedoms after leaving the panel. Cavanagh is only now able to voice issues about style and a rigid structure. This would suggest that he wasn't able to question Mickey. He has 2 nodding dogs in Devlin and O'Neill in beside him. The prayers before games is another example how Mickey rules the roost. I don't know of any club that does this.

Prayers before games???  Whats this about??

Sunday - the sorrowful mysteries.

This can't be true. Sure what if a lad was from another faith or from none at all? No manager would risk putting a player in that kind of position.

Christmas Lights

Quote from: GetOverTheBar on May 22, 2018, 10:33:10 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 22, 2018, 10:21:06 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on May 22, 2018, 07:50:55 AM
Quote from: Thebigdog on May 22, 2018, 07:29:01 AM
Quote from: ose 14 on May 22, 2018, 06:51:21 AM
monaghan fully merited the win looked a lot leaner than a top heavy tyrone. they are  also quicker in their thought processes and decision making that comes from good coaching and an excellent backroom. tyrone lost out because of their overall defensive gameplan. it depends on one thing being in front at all times the goal before halftime was equivalent to o callaghans  game over. game over on the sideline that is not with the players. harte has constantly backed his strategy even in the light of such a pyschologically damaging defeat last august. to finish the game in such dissaray backs the notion that he will continue to do what he wants despite the criticism and tactical naievity. the centre of our defence remains porous mcnamee burns wont cut it against top players and cavnagh never fit to sweep and hes to slow, 32 legs are gone for that job ,he might be able to horse about in the middle and school mcclure. stubborness over the groundswell opinion that the defensive gamepan no longer cuts it just reinforces the idea that the old man is no longer relevant at the tactical top table. conservatism and age go hand in hand in politics life and football. hard to watch, need for some pride to be reinstored in a respected football jersey. i think the players have had enough.
It will only be the players who can get rid of him at this stage. The arrogance shown by the Tyrone county board regarding Harte proves their is no point looking at them to do something.

The players won't say a word, they are all in a controlled environment when selected to represent our county. The RTE ban it takes you to leave the panel before you can give an interview. Cavanagh, Ricey, McGuigan and Jordan all expressed their freedoms after leaving the panel. Cavanagh is only now able to voice issues about style and a rigid structure. This would suggest that he wasn't able to question Mickey. He has 2 nodding dogs in Devlin and O'Neill in beside him. The prayers before games is another example how Mickey rules the roost. I don't know of any club that does this.

Prayers before games???  Whats this about??

The players are encouraged/forced to take part in the rosary before games. McCarron talked about it in his book and I think McNamee done an interview on it last summer - maybe around the Dublin game if I remember correctly.

Is there anything to be said for another Mass?  Thats shocking to be fair if true....what about guys on the panel who maybe are not religious at all?

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Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 22, 2018, 11:00:37 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on May 22, 2018, 10:33:10 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 22, 2018, 10:21:06 AM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on May 22, 2018, 07:50:55 AM
Quote from: Thebigdog on May 22, 2018, 07:29:01 AM
Quote from: ose 14 on May 22, 2018, 06:51:21 AM
monaghan fully merited the win looked a lot leaner than a top heavy tyrone. they are  also quicker in their thought processes and decision making that comes from good coaching and an excellent backroom. tyrone lost out because of their overall defensive gameplan. it depends on one thing being in front at all times the goal before halftime was equivalent to o callaghans  game over. game over on the sideline that is not with the players. harte has constantly backed his strategy even in the light of such a pyschologically damaging defeat last august. to finish the game in such dissaray backs the notion that he will continue to do what he wants despite the criticism and tactical naievity. the centre of our defence remains porous mcnamee burns wont cut it against top players and cavnagh never fit to sweep and hes to slow, 32 legs are gone for that job ,he might be able to horse about in the middle and school mcclure. stubborness over the groundswell opinion that the defensive gamepan no longer cuts it just reinforces the idea that the old man is no longer relevant at the tactical top table. conservatism and age go hand in hand in politics life and football. hard to watch, need for some pride to be reinstored in a respected football jersey. i think the players have had enough.
It will only be the players who can get rid of him at this stage. The arrogance shown by the Tyrone county board regarding Harte proves their is no point looking at them to do something.

The players won't say a word, they are all in a controlled environment when selected to represent our county. The RTE ban it takes you to leave the panel before you can give an interview. Cavanagh, Ricey, McGuigan and Jordan all expressed their freedoms after leaving the panel. Cavanagh is only now able to voice issues about style and a rigid structure. This would suggest that he wasn't able to question Mickey. He has 2 nodding dogs in Devlin and O'Neill in beside him. The prayers before games is another example how Mickey rules the roost. I don't know of any club that does this.

Prayers before games???  Whats this about??

The players are encouraged/forced to take part in the rosary before games. McCarron talked about it in his book and I think McNamee done an interview on it last summer - maybe around the Dublin game if I remember correctly.

Is there anything to be said for another Mass?  Thats shocking to be fair if true....what about guys on the panel who maybe are not religious at all?

This is old news. Any player who doesn't want to participate doesn't have to. Sure when Father McAleer was on the management team he said Mass the mornings of games. I'm not Harte's no.1 fan but you're making something out of nothing here. It's not a case of say the rosary or you're not playing.


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Football teams have to be dictatorships. They don't work any other way. Someone has to make the decisions in the best interest of the team. Now we can disagree with his / her decisions but someone needs to have the final say. You think Fergie or Micko or Jim Galvin have some sort of players committee deciding what's happening in training or who is playing?
As I said I'm not Harte's biggest fan but he's in control and that's essential. When the patients are in charge of the mad house, you can just forget about it.