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In fairness to Joe's quite a feat to lure a player from a neighbouring club, who they refused to amalgamate with and who they played juvenile football with for the past 10 years.  It's like knocking off your wifes sister.

Not saying Galway would have won, but there was never much between these two.  The Mayo game for Galway is one of those that you take with a pinch of salt.  Galway are no bad team but with little between them and Roscommon the complacency factor was always going to come into play.

Paper never refuses ink,  I am sure they will have great meetings but where exactly are we going to find money to implement this strategy.  We have had a few of these down the years and all I have seen is things getting progressively worse.  it's a PR exercise end of.  I am sure we will follow the Offaly County Board on this, their one is still in it's dust jacket.

No issue with Chris, so Clancy and McNulty who manage Senior Club Teams are out but Chris who coached only schools team is in?  What is the actual criteria for a Laois Manager. 

Also I would beg to differ on Clancy's record if it's looked at properly he did quite well.  I am pretty sure Clancy got offered most of the Laois Club jobs last year.  In fairness his couple of years in Ballyroan were decent and if BallyroanAbbey wants to argue he knows who I am and where I am.  Malachy undoubtably has the best C.v on paper just not sure he is enough of a unifying force.  But if he got the job I would be happy.

Creedon can head on back to Tipp, undoubtably a disaster.  Tony the clubs won't stomach a second year but maybe the County Board have bigger balls than I think.

My preference would be to keep Creedon on board for another year and refresh the backround set up. Maybe add Ross in there if he retires and a good S&C coach like barry solan. The ones we had this year were of a primitive standard. A plus I see from this year was blooding a lot of new players like Farrell and Kelly. It's a transitional phase. If we end up getting a new manager each year I can't see the momentum. The players love Creedon and each player I've spoken to has praised the set up. I was dissappointed with his performance overall but a man with a couple years club experience is highly unlikely to just become an amazing inter county manager as there's a huge difference in both jobs. Creedon is not the be all and end all manager but he is committed to the cause and I can see us making an improvement in season 2 if changes and improvements are made.

That's my opinion anyway, no need to get personal.

Complete Madness

Arles/barrowhouse coming to a pitch near you. 

You can be a life time building juvenile, I am not saying don't improve it.  But to focus on juvenile to the detriment of your Senior Team is a fools errand.  Your Senior Team sells it to your kids they have to aspire to something.  Nobody is going to back a juvenile set up with cash.  Go ahead get your structures right but juvenile is the not place to put all your eggs and if it goes wrong you have ignored all else in the face of it.

So BallyroanAbbey we're we not vastly improved last year, because while your knocking what went on you forget we should have been beaten by far more against Arles 3 years ago and last year were somewhat unlucky to lose. We made massive improvements under Clancy and hopefully we can hold on to them.  i am not hard on anyone but a lot of people in Ballyroan think they could of better,  I personally feel under Clancy we were over achieving with an u20 team.


Joey not hitting out at you but this county will struggle for money as a result of been in Div 4.  I think already our sponsors are not happy.  Senior team is the seller you use it to earn more revenue.

Give it to Higgins, McNulty or Clancy but for God Sake give someone who is in Laois.  It's like a black mark against you if your from Laois but if you talk complete toss from somewhere else lets roll out the red carpet.  I can't understand it, why should TOF of got the job, he was ran out of Galway yet we had him for 3 years.  Creedon was a joke but Clancy or Higgins no they know nothing.  They are in Div 4 go with a Laois Man, I for the life of me cannot see why someone from Laois should not get the job, what sort of example are you setting continually hiring journey men no one else wants.  Pat Roe did a good job with Wexford one time again his home county "NO".  You ask why there is no passion in this county because we seem to want to deny those with passion any chance of progress. 

Joey and a lot of your posts miss one major fact we don't have the money to implement f**k all.  We are at the mercy of National and Provincial Councils.  I would not hold my breath on that.  On the good news I see Pat Flanagan is now available he should meet a lot of the criteria some of you are looking for in a manager.  Hope it goes well.

I don't know but I am sure he can be persuaded.

This is not a high profile job, it's Div 4 football I would think below club standard in some counties, not bloody Dublin his going to manage.  Next year is London, Waterford Leitrim this is his next step.   

The problem with any fella that has done abit of coaching is a belief that coaching is the solution to the problem or even talent (especially at amateur level). I believe at the level we're at motivation, passion and organisation are missing.   You can always hire a coach and backroom staff but to have someone who inspires lads to turn up to training on a wet Wednesday in November is priceless.  There are literally thousands of coaches, S&C but very few leaders/managers.  Clancy is the man Laois need, you can buy in whatever expertise you need.  He simply inspires belief both on the pitch and off it.  I think Laois would find it a hell of lot easier to get money from sponsors with a Laois man at the helm.  I would also like to mention, that  Creedon when I asked for him to be sacked mid way through the League I was berated but how much money has he now cost in our support base.   Simply paying him has cost north of €100,000, I was sneered at when I tried to correlate his performance on the field and the future economic cost to our county.  You will have very little improvement in any set up without money and I simply see very little more money being found if we continue down our woe is me road.  Clancy is box office, laois are generally well disposed to him and he is not afraid to milk it.  This in the short term means some money being found for the county set up, its up to him and the county board to build on that.

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I think you could be surprised by Clancy,  what's our options otherwise hire some fella nobody else wants, and give him €25,000 for the pleasure.  I really think it's a no lose situation if a young Laois Manager has success I think the multiplier effect of a Laois Man in charge would be huge.  Even at your best guesstimate we will be 10 years sorting out underage we really don't have that time.  I am telling you like him or don't Clancy has a X factor which draws people to him that otherwise would not look twice at us.  I am sure he has plenty of faults but I really don't think they matter or are relevant.

Your 100% on that but very hard to sort

Tony come on for the last 6 months Creedon was your man to turn things round, now because he failed no one can succeed. High Fielder we have the players to be competive in Div 2,  it's about time we remember we have some pride.  The problem these days that most players think they are bigger than the jersey, it's all  about I rather than the team. The brutal thing is some of them don't even realise they are doing this.  In the way you have stuck your neck out I will continually,  Padraig Clancy is the man to take Laois forward, I think Malachy deserves it more on form and logic.  But my personal opinion is that Clancy has the X Factor to bring a lot of diverse sections within Laois to pull together in one direction.  I am utterly convinced of this no matter how much ridicule I have to take.