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Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: January 14, 2018, 11:29:20 PM »
What i heard thursday was true

Good News, huge addition to the panel.  Can't see anyone put out by Donie's return they all know his ability.

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Laois / Re: Club transfers
« on: January 13, 2018, 09:50:35 PM »
No regardless of last time you played club is entitled to object.  The address rule is the one that seems indisputable in Laois.  The others are open to argument.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Jimmy's moving up the ladder again.
« on: January 09, 2018, 05:52:42 PM »
Must have watched the Micko documentary last night, seen the Hotels,Bar and Fast Food joints and decided China is not as lucrative :)

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Laois / Re: 2018 O'Byrne Cup
« on: January 09, 2018, 05:18:07 PM »
Tony I see where your coming from, however what are our chances of success without Donie ?  It's all well and good talking about desire.  But being competitive and winning fuels that desire.  If we go out and are beaten with regularity it will not do anything for squad morale.  Personally I do think a certain part of a managers job is getting the maximum out of the resources available to you.   Sugrue is unlucky that Donie has decided to do this but part of his job in my view is to get him back into a Laois Jersey.  Without Donie it makes Sugrues job that much harder, Sugrue may well prove that he can negotiate this hurdle without Donie but that is for the future.

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Laois / Re: Strategic Review of Gaelic Games in Laois 2017
« on: January 09, 2018, 04:25:19 PM »
They are our Moms, Wives, Girlfriends, Sisters & Daughters playing the same sport, I think we need to accommodate within reason.  There is a large amount of females keeping the GAA going.   We simply have to show a bit of leadership here and give them a helping hand.  I would be disappointed if this simple commitment is not met.

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Laois / Re: 2018 O'Byrne Cup
« on: January 09, 2018, 11:25:26 AM »
In theory your right, of course every player should want to play for Laois.   But Culture is an intangible,  It could take 5-10 years to implement a culture and just as likely you may not succeed.  Managers are in the business of results.   Many of you may not agree but Donie Kingston for the last 2-3 years has held Laois together and because he has become disillusioned he left.  Is this not an indictment of previous set ups ?  John Sugrue in my opinion must try to persuade Kingston back in regardless of culture and what other players may think.  He simply must be persuaded and if things are as good or as positive as they seem to be he then may buy into the setup.  One place he is not going to buy into the setup is on the couch watching T.V.
You believe he hasn't tried?

You believe he won't try again?

A lot of assumptions there.

Never said that, I do worry with Donie that the longer he stays out the more likely he stays out.  Hopefully this all becomes airy fairy talk and Donie announces a return to the panel as soon as.

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Laois / Re: 2018 O'Byrne Cup
« on: January 09, 2018, 11:10:11 AM »
In theory your right, of course every player should want to play for Laois.   But Culture is an intangible,  It could take 5-10 years to implement a culture and just as likely you may not succeed.  Managers are in the business of results.   Many of you may not agree but Donie Kingston for the last 2-3 years has held Laois together and because he has become disillusioned he left.  Is this not an indictment of previous set ups ?  John Sugrue in my opinion must try to persuade Kingston back in regardless of culture and what other players may think.  He simply must be persuaded and if things are as good or as positive as they seem to be he then may buy into the setup.  One place he is not going to buy into the setup is on the couch watching T.V.

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Laois / Re: Strategic Review of Gaelic Games in Laois 2017
« on: January 09, 2018, 10:49:14 AM »
I enjoyed the presentation last night,  I suppose the formation of a second club in Portlaoise was always going to be the headline issue.  I can see the merit in the proposal,the surge in population growth over the last 15 years is incredible.  Personally I thought they would shy away from the issue and some watered down version i.e the promotion of Ballyfin, Ratheniska & The Heath would be seen as the solution.  While I agree anyone who wants to play GAA in Portlaoise is probably playing however I would see a second club as an opportunity to promote the games among those who may not have had any previous interaction with the GAA.  It is an exciting opportunity for the County Board to grasp and the competition may actually enhance Portlaoise GAA.  Hopefully Laois GAA do not let this slide as it would be nice to see the formation of a viable club in the face of the decline of some rural clubs.  The danger lies in the Training Centre because the County Board is so tunnelled visioned with regards to the repayments on this they may not allocate the resources needed to the promotion of this Club that would allow it to flourish.

I would also like to mention the proposal to allow both Ladies Football and Camogie a firmer standing within the county as a major positive, it is criminal that the Ladies County Teams and finals are not played in O Moore Park.  It may not be feasible at juvenile but there is no justification at Senior Level.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mick O'Dwyer
« on: January 08, 2018, 11:32:02 PM »
Mercenary or Angel Sent From Heaven
Laois had some notions giving him the sack
3 Leinster Finals, won one for the first time in 50 odd years

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Laois / Re: 2018 O'Byrne Cup
« on: January 08, 2018, 11:06:45 PM »
Whose running him Tony ? What I said is that the return of Donie Kingston is one of the tests of his management.  In fairness he will be given time and I think most people would understand the job he has to do.  I think Sugrue will succeed but in the end results will be the determining factor.  I don't think I have said anything outlandish in that.

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Laois / Re: 2018 O'Byrne Cup
« on: January 08, 2018, 06:43:07 PM »
I will say one other positive thing - it took balls to put out two completely different inexperienced teams in the O'Byrne cup. We were unlikely to win either game and it immediately puts pressure on the manager. A manager with no vision or less self belief would have tried to get a home win yesterday to keep people off his back.

Personally, given a choice between putting out last years team and getting promoted to Div 3. or a new team that shows potential for the future and competes well enough in Div. 4 without promotion, I would choose the latter.

Look I like Sugrue,  but there are many other ways of interpreting what he is doing.  A manager is judged by results not some hotchpotch of potential,  It's all fine to give Sugrue a break in the  O Byrne Cup but at some point  he will have to be seriously analyzed.   Regardless of what some on here think this is very much a results based business, of course we cut Sugrue a break because of his inexperience and we understand what he is trying to do but there does come a point where results will be what he is judged on.  The first thing he must do regardless is manufacture the return of Mr D Kingston to the Laois Set Up or before he starts he faces a very serious handicap.  This is one of the first tests of his management if Donie is not back in soon there is not a hope in hell he will be championship fit.     

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Laois / Re: Football Club Managers 2018
« on: January 08, 2018, 01:22:50 PM »
He said he could not take Ballyroan job due to work commitments that had recently cropped up.

Would be disappointed if he was taking another club as he indicated he was not.

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Laois / Re: Strategic Review of Gaelic Games in Laois 2017
« on: January 07, 2018, 10:45:42 PM »
With the strategic review coming out tomorrow I'd like to know what changes people hope will be in it.
I myself would like to see a move towards a long term professional set up that incorporates all players from the u13/14 up. My reasoning behind this would be that once a child is brought into the county set up there should be a clear line of progression, including expectations,  attitudes and outcomes with the senior teams being "professionals role models" in the same way of the first team premiership club.
To start with I'd invest heavily with a "laois player" app. This would be download able under licence by all players with coaded usernames for better personal protection.  Along with this each player would receive a performance tracker vest top "sports bra." With all players having to wear it to track activity for county, club, school etc and aduring all sport activities afterwards it bluetooth syncs to the players phone and app. if they play rugby/soccer etc with the consent of that coach. This is overall just to protect against over training etc. 
The app itself would allow for a better understanding of what your players and doing and how they are reacting to training. It will also allow coaches to send training material directly to their teams rather than waste training time on tactical talks the players can arrive to training with the training session tactics already known.
Along with the app I'd hire a full time nutritionist, exercise physiologist, S&C coach and video alalyst.  These people would be available to all Laois teams. Prior to training individuals would open their app see their coachs input and highlights from the previous games ex: possession turnover short 3min video on the turnovers etc followed by 2 min of coach instructions on how the session is going to be run etc. Players turn up switched on. Along with this the coach can give individuals highlights to them directly and what they are to work on themselves.
The APP+tracker would also allow for direct following of the S&C program and how they are responding to it. As for the s&c it should be conducted along the lines russian liner periodisation along the lines of Zerhoshansky, Zatziorsky, Siff and Simmons. This will instill a constant winning/achieving attitude from an early age on. Weight training should begin with the youngest teams and be a constant progression.
Going back to the club's I'd like to see how the underage structures are within each club. Again clubs could be given acess to the app with training games, structures training etc all there for them. I personally would like to see training sessions from u8 up be run with lots of 1v1, 2v2 skills based training games I think for skills development and overall talent.

Don't think any of this will be happening mate nor anything near it.

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Laois / Re: 2018 O'Byrne Cup
« on: January 07, 2018, 06:26:56 PM »
It was not great, a lot of new players been thrown in at once.  I would hold fire on any judgement, both the players and management team are very inexperienced and I think should improve a lot over the year.  It's the O Byrne Cup a nothing of value tournament at the start of the season, but we will be looking for improvement in the league.  Westmeath looked along way down the road in terms of conditioning in comparison to  Laois, probably due to the fact we had so many first year county men involved at the moment but a sad indictment of what's gone on in that sphere at under age level.

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Laois / Re: Leinster U-20 Football 2018
« on: December 29, 2017, 12:20:47 PM »
Doubt it, would not be surprised to see Kearns take it.

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