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Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: Today at 12:07:37 PM »
My gra, on this.  Yes you can use profanities on the discussion forum, the overuse of such language probably makes you less likely to be listened to.   As for criticism of players or management, what's the point of discussing anything if there is no criticism.  PRO has held his hands up, for what not rating a player?  It's not really a sin on the scale of things, personally I like the player as many others do.  But if we don't have debate this forum has no use.  It's up to the moderators and our own moral code to keep things at a reasonable level.

PRO did nothing wrong even though I don't agree with his call.

In all reality this forum is quite reasoned even though we don't agree with each other.  This is an opportunity for different views to have their say some may do it more eloquently than others.

Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: March 23, 2018, 11:57:46 AM »
Our problem was never in talent or players certaintly not at Div 4 or possibly 3, our issue was mentality and attitude. 

I can't wait for Sunday I would think I am going to get some pasting if we get beaten on here (arrogance will be the word used mostly)

But I won't be crowing when we win as it's only Carlow we are on a journey and Dr Cullen Park is only a sign post.

Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: March 23, 2018, 11:06:08 AM »
It is the fans fault and the clubs if you continually accept sub standard, that is what you get.  Everybody mollycoddling everyone else itís a complete joke, Laois did not end up in Div 4 because someone waved a magic wand.  We wonít lose Sunday because finally there is some joined up thinking at helm.  John Sugrue was not my first choice but the further he goes on the more impressive an individual he is.  He is not near the finished article nor are Laois but there is more than enough improvement to warrant confidence against Carlow.  I would not have the same attitude against Kildare. 

There wonít be any excuses against Carlow as they wonít be needed.

Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: March 23, 2018, 08:43:07 AM »
I think we will beat them with that team but hopefully the lads won't be like some posters here and think it's a foregone conclusion. Think O'Reillys pace will be needed before the game is over.

Or seek excuses like many on here, there is no excuse.  I am sick of a once proud county deluding itself that because of ineptitude that what is must be.  We are not a Division 4 county and if we accept we are thatís where we remain.  No excuses be they preparation or complacency we must beat Carlow twice and that simply is a minimum.  What are we going to do when we really come against it.  I have never be more disappointed to read on here when we played Dublin in Kilkenny how great we were to lose by 8 points I think.  My outstanding memory of that game is the half pace Dublin played at.  If we want to aspire to anything we must have certain standards and f**king hammering Carlow should be a basic.  Convince yourselves that we are second rate and that is what we will accept as fans.  We as proud Laois Supporters deserve better.  I am sure some of you think I am nuts but this county drives me mad with its meek acceptance.  There is something Paudi O Shea Said  about the savagery of Kerry Supporters.  Why are we so accepting ?

Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: March 23, 2018, 07:24:40 AM »
Just seen the team. I was thinking we'd be well able to take care of Carlow but not so sure now. Benny Carroll at 11? Jesus.
Same Benny Carroll that was possibly the best player of last years club championship in his club position.  The risks we take.

Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: March 20, 2018, 10:20:44 PM »
We shall see Sunday but we are far better this year than any of the previous 4 years when loads of fellas on here continually talked us up.  Sugrue will get us promoted because unlike some of the previous managers he has some modicum of a clue to what his doing.  He may lack experience and I am sure that will be found out against better teams but Div 4 is not that place.

Stop hedging your bets and get real lads.  Galway & Kerry wonít be playing Carlow in the league, not arrogance being realistic.  Why underplay ourselves itís only another excuse.

Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: March 20, 2018, 09:50:21 PM »
Lads, its Carlow.

If it was Westmeath I might see their point.  Itís Carlow, get real.  Talking them up and then we beat Carlow  and then we go about what a great victory it was would be truly bollocks.  This is what they will do next Monday and Tuesday.

Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: March 20, 2018, 06:48:11 PM »
Paddy Power
Have Carlow 11/4 Laois 1/3 get stuck into Carlow Tony
If you have Ä10 on you will lose Ä10
Absolute joke talking them up

As soon as anyone decent takes him Poacher will be on his bike thatís how much he rates Carlow. Itís great for Carlow but they have 30 years of direness to overcome.  Laois are 1/3 away from home.

Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: March 20, 2018, 07:35:25 AM »
Tony your back at it again, last year you talked up a manager until he was ran out of the place.  Carlow are poor and we have to be beating them all this talk of a renaissance in Carlow football from where ? 30 years in Div 4 football, good for them they are getting promoted but for us to be down there is farcical. The bookmakers have us heavy favs to win the division and while on occasion they are wrong over time this rarely happens.   I am sure certain people on here will try to talk Carlow up but let me question their objectivity some of them have heavy involvement with the management or players.  I will be honest promotion from Div 4 is a minimum, so please don't under talk our prospects that's the sort of crap that has here in the first place.  If someone had of been critical of the way things were going in the first place we may never have ended up here.  So far so good by Sugrue and I have faith he will do the job but it's the sort of job that is must rather than an option.

Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: March 12, 2018, 01:55:25 PM »
Hard County to satisfy, unbeaten coming off a double relegation.  I think we should be more than happy with how things are going thus far considering what's available.  I do think we will be found out at some stage but there is 22 bad teams in the country.  Rome wasn't built in a day, first year management team they will learn a lot this year.  On another day we would have beaten London by 12.  I do agree what's coming through is not been maximized, every resource should be thrown at our underage set up.  Not just what they ask for we should go beyond this,  it's not good enough our U20's were left in limbo for 4 months.  If we are ever to improve this is where it will come from, the county board has to take the lead here in setting standards. 

Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: March 12, 2018, 10:17:58 AM »
Most of the teams at this level are like the Ireland rugby team of old. They are spirited and full of energy and then fizzle away shortly after half time. Watching the last 10 mins of Div 4 game is like watching a game in slow motion. You can't improve technically playing the game at a break neck pace, so just invite them on, keep the scores low and hit them on the break. Going toe to toe is winning matches against bad teams, but the second we step up in terms of opposition, we will suffer. It's great to be winning matches, but I'm far from convinced we're moving ahead with any real conviction. Defensively, we really don't have the right pegs for the right holes

I agree with you in principle but I think that only the top couple of teams in Div 2 and all the teams in Div 1 are technically proficient.  I really believe that it will be Div 2 before our inadequacies would be highlighted up till then you can travel along way on commitment and fitness.  I do think Sugrue looks promising as a manager.  You can't do anymore than win and more so than anywhere most on this forum are aware of Laois's problems.

Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: March 11, 2018, 04:04:50 PM »
Shocking stuff here at half time. The worst I ve seen thema long while.
Tactically the Laois line donít seem to have a clue and every time London attack they cut us apart.
Obviously you missed the qualifier against Antrim a couple of years ago.

Actually I would take today as a good sign managing to win inspite of ourselves.

Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: March 01, 2018, 07:52:50 PM »
Don't think so I think Antrim will be played the weekend of 17/18 March

Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: February 27, 2018, 01:28:11 PM »
No arguments on tighter defense and any improvements that need implemented, , I donít think the Div 4 teams will test us in that regard.  The unfortunate thing for Laois is that their frailties will be exposed by the better teams in championship where there is little time to rectify them.  I just donít see three mentioned in that regard.

Laois / Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
« on: February 27, 2018, 07:49:35 AM »
Seriously who are we fooling ? Simply put we have no business talking about football if we manage to get beaten by a county which is struggling every year to field teams let alone win.  I refuse to underplay our hand, we quite simply are in the strongest position we have been in years.  Our manager is an impressive individual who seems to be getting the vast majority of calls right.  He is a breath of fresh air and should be resourced accordingly.  The amount of money wasted over the last five years on complete ineptitude is staggering,  It may be an inexperienced management setup but they are getting results and I think the majority of us would agree going about their business in the right way.  I am not getting ahead of myself as I feel Sugrue got a break by being in Div 4, of course life would be much more difficult in Div 2 & 3   The standard level of Div 4 is appalling for anyone that enjoys football I would think Portlaoise would be capable of beating most of teams down there.

I have advocated this the vast majority of time that we have been on the GAAboard  forum, namely that there are more than enough lads with the intelligence & capability of being managers of our inter county team within the county.  The amount of mercenaries/muppets that got paid to be here over the years is unbelievable, it's fine every now and again to shoot for the stars with a Micko to get us over the line.  But I would much prefer one of own who has come through the ranks and knows ever facet of our county club scene.

P.S I realize Sugrue is from Kerry but he qualifies under the residency rule :)

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