Antrim Hurling

[milltown row]

lads leave the referees alone. there are a group of referees who have played hurling and referee it as they played. some referees even have senior county medals. i refereed last year and due to other commitments this year I'd have done a lot more.

i found it OK and bar some back chat never had a problem. I'll be taking up the refereeing next year again and I'm looking forward to it. don't have referees then we won't have games.

Ray Matthews i believe is doing the interm. final

Ray is one of our better referees and has lost weight recently and looking sharp i hope he has a great game and is not intimidated by others

[johnneycool]

lads leave the referees alone. there are a group of referees who have played hurling and referee it as they played. some referees even have senior county medals. i refereed last year and due to other commitments this year I'd have done a lot more.

i found it OK and bar some back chat never had a problem. I'll be taking up the refereeing next year again and I'm looking forward to it. don't have referees then we won't have games.

Ray Matthews i believe is doing the interm. final

Ray is one of our better referees and has lost weight recently and looking sharp i hope he has a great game and is not intimidated by others

Ray certainly referee's as he played as he was a gobshite as a player, only kidding Ray if you're still lurking 

[theskull1]

Well, new as I am to this board, and I'm sure that you have discussed the matter but we need to start with club hurling.

Our leagues are nothing short of a joke. To resolve this matter we need to get our clubs - yours and mine - to get over the mind set of not playing without County players. Why should 30 odd guys - two teams to play a match including subs - be held ransom because of 3/4 players? It's insane and it's not in anybody's interests not to play matches.

To place the blame at the door of the "County Board"is a kop out. Its the clubs who refuse to play the games. It's the clubs who look for excuses to avoid matches and its the clubs fault that our leagues are in the state that they are in.

I'm sure that this is all old news to those of you who are seasoned campaigners on this site , however, you will forgive me as I'm a newbie.

It's an argument that has been bandied about Tóin, but it's not a view I share and here are my reasons why.

All my points below are based on the assumption that we are not going to win the All Ireland or be anywhere close to being in the top 5/6 in the next 10 years because we lack the right sort of players at that level, so we need to STOP what we have been doing and revise what we want to achieve. It should be ALL about developing the standards

To improve the standards of club hurling in Antrim more focus needs to be given to club hurling and that means playing your strongest team against their strongest team to give the competition and the game proper respect. Playing Cushendall for example minus 6-7 county players totally devalues the competition (and that had happened year on year for nearly 20 years)

The whole notion of keeping County players away from playing club matches because of County preparations is crazy. The focus has to be on the development of the quality in the club leagues to develop more players of the quality required to jump on a bus to go down south. As Cody says to his players, the county player on a club team has to set the standard and be an ambassador for the game in his club.

If standards of coaching  (fitness and stickwork) was developed properly then club could be given a central responsibility to get County representatives to the right standard because lets be honest, the coaching players get with the County is no better (and in some cases worse) . Let County Panelist meet once a week for a Cody type match and then go back to their clubs ....surely that would save a fair bit in expenses. Let their be a 6 day rule before Senior County matches and 4 days before minor & U21. If the centre half gets injured in that club match then we just get on with it because we we never going to win the All Ireland with him so why get overly concerned about holding back club fixtures.

Our County Board should be leaders and show that they are passionate about the game of hurling. I don't see it. They piggy backed onto initiatives created by North Antrim but without the same level of communication or enthusiasm, so who knows what they do up there because we never seem to get anything NEW coming out of Casement other than the have to do stuff. If the do do anything, it's reactive rather than proactive. As a result the game is undersold. They like alot of people in clubs should be more enthusiastic in their endevours to get people to buy into new ideas or new ways of doing thing that will benefit the game.

And then onto clubs. Yes with modern communication systems now, clubs should be making more of an effort to plan in fixtures with other clubs at any opertunity to try and maintain regular fixtures for their players rather than wait for the CCCC to do everything for them and then gurn about weeks without matches


Thats my ramblings

[Nemo]

that what i meant to write skull, just was to busy / lazy to go into that depth, but i totally concur regards  playing county players

[Queenie]

@ Queenie


who's gonna ref the final, is either team gonna be missing players. really looking forward to it and i believe the Minor Final is now on before it, it should be a good game and i hope Loughgiel can claim the 3 in a row (i think its 3)

Someone called "Speedy" did our league match v Lamh Dherg and had a sound game, let the game flow well and cut out any nonsense before it amounted to anything.  Would he be a contender for the final with Duffy?

Has it been confirmed if there will be a Minor/Senior Hurling Final double header yet?

Speedy!  FFS, he is anything but Speedy!

[Queenie]

Well, new as I am to this board, and I'm sure that you have discussed the matter but we need to start with club hurling.

Our leagues are nothing short of a joke. To resolve this matter we need to get our clubs - yours and mine - to get over the mind set of not playing without County players. Why should 30 odd guys - two teams to play a match including subs - be held ransom because of 3/4 players? It's insane and it's not in anybody's interests not to play matches.

To place the blame at the door of the "County Board"is a kop out. Its the clubs who refuse to play the games. It's the clubs who look for excuses to avoid matches and its the clubs fault that our leagues are in the state that they are in.

I'm sure that this is all old news to those of you who are seasoned campaigners on this site , however, you will forgive me as I'm a newbie.

Could not agree more friend.  Clubs are really selfish by not playing games because of a few county players not involved.

[Queenie]

lads leave the referees alone. there are a group of referees who have played hurling and referee it as they played. some referees even have senior county medals. i refereed last year and due to other commitments this year I'd have done a lot more.

i found it OK and bar some back chat never had a problem. I'll be taking up the refereeing next year again and I'm looking forward to it. don't have referees then we won't have games.

Ray Matthews i believe is doing the interm. final

Ray is one of our better referees and has lost weight recently and looking sharp i hope he has a great game and is not intimidated by others

Ray certainly referee's as he played as he was a gobshite as a player, only kidding Ray if you're still lurking 

You were right the first time Johnny.  A complete and utter Gobshite when he played and still is today!

[Queenie]

Bet the first question will be about the "terrible one" 


Good to see that referees can see that there are positive contributions/suggestions being made here most of the time. Like everywhere, you'll get the odd mouth on here but 80% of posters are sound enough to have an adult discussion with.

Skull, as i said some of us Refs do look at the site, to be truthful to see the feedback on games. We would,nt be human if we did,nt. Its hard to take some of the Pi** heads and personal attacks at times. Some us work very hard at our game and the rule applications, and try to improve, although when you face the abuse this can be impossible at times. We are sharing this so hopefully it will give a broad spectrum of feedback. Its time that we had some sort of genuine voice, we won,t be drawn into a piss take or will not engage in the old TYRE KICKING mentality. See how it goes, and hopefully it will be helpful to us all.

Ah feck no!  The 'Terrible One' has got an account on GAA Board.  Now wait to you listen to this load of balls.  By the way, watch your kit bag, socks, boots, shorts, pencils, whistles, RED and Yellows.   Who let that bollocks on?

What exactly have against TR? Why do you persistently attack referees, some of your postings are fairly accurate on the county, however you seem to want to have a pop at all costs? I don,t believe your a St Johns man, however thats irrelevant.

Most of my postings are very accurate, just cut to the cahse, thats what I say!  Reilly, is a really 'Terrible One'  belive me, has not got a clue about hurling or refereeing.

[Queenie]

Jim Murray is McD's

So, at last, you dont know it all!  Shame on you.  JM a McD's man!  No way, he is a fully fledged St. John's man now.  County Chairman elect and stongly opposed to the threat by the Shinners from the Upper Springfield.  JM is now strategically placed to fend of the threat of the SF infilitration at Casement.

[Queenie]

Jim Murray is McD's

was McD's but had a fall out. these things happen

Good man McGourty, you keep him right!

[theskull1]

Well, new as I am to this board, and I'm sure that you have discussed the matter but we need to start with club hurling.

Our leagues are nothing short of a joke. To resolve this matter we need to get our clubs - yours and mine - to get over the mind set of not playing without County players. Why should 30 odd guys - two teams to play a match including subs - be held ransom because of 3/4 players? It's insane and it's not in anybody's interests not to play matches.

To place the blame at the door of the "County Board"is a kop out. Its the clubs who refuse to play the games. It's the clubs who look for excuses to avoid matches and its the clubs fault that our leagues are in the state that they are in.

I'm sure that this is all old news to those of you who are seasoned campaigners on this site , however, you will forgive me as I'm a newbie.

Could not agree more friend.  Clubs are really selfish by not playing games because of a few county players not involved.

We all credit to St Johns, I'd say they would definitely play championship even without stag party members. Not sure about County players though as they don't have to choose at the minute as far as I know. 

[Queenie]

So Mathews is doing the hurling final on Friday night.  I hear he has been in the Sauna and Gym all week trying to shed a few of the surplus pounds!  The guy is just not up with the pace.  Still time for the 'terrible one to get a call up for the line, assuming he has his hair dye done by that time!

Just for  some of the uninitiated.  I don't have a problem with all referees, just some of the pretentious/power freak ones likes, Duffy, Mathews, 'Terrible one' and wonder boy Elliott.  The rest of the guys are sound.

[Queenie]

Well, new as I am to this board, and I'm sure that you have discussed the matter but we need to start with club hurling.

Our leagues are nothing short of a joke. To resolve this matter we need to get our clubs - yours and mine - to get over the mind set of not playing without County players. Why should 30 odd guys - two teams to play a match including subs - be held ransom because of 3/4 players? It's insane and it's not in anybody's interests not to play matches.

To place the blame at the door of the "County Board"is a kop out. Its the clubs who refuse to play the games. It's the clubs who look for excuses to avoid matches and its the clubs fault that our leagues are in the state that they are in.

I'm sure that this is all old news to those of you who are seasoned campaigners on this site , however, you will forgive me as I'm a newbie.

Could not agree more friend.  Clubs are really selfish by not playing games because of a few county players not involved.

We all credit to St Johns, I'd say they would definitely play championship even without stag party members. Not sure about County players though as they don't have to choose at the minute as far as I know. 

And that is not a problem for us Wiseguy.  Your so full of yourself, are'nt you!

[Queenie]

Bet the first question will be about the "terrible one" 


Good to see that referees can see that there are positive contributions/suggestions being made here most of the time. Like everywhere, you'll get the odd mouth on here but 80% of posters are sound enough to have an adult discussion with.

Skull, as i said some of us Refs do look at the site, to be truthful to see the feedback on games. We would,nt be human if we did,nt. Its hard to take some of the Pi** heads and personal attacks at times. Some us work very hard at our game and the rule applications, and try to improve, although when you face the abuse this can be impossible at times. We are sharing this so hopefully it will give a broad spectrum of feedback. Its time that we had some sort of genuine voice, we won,t be drawn into a piss take or will not engage in the old TYRE KICKING mentality. See how it goes, and hopefully it will be helpful to us all.

Ah feck no!  The 'Terrible One' has got an account on GAA Board.  Now wait to you listen to this load of balls.  By the way, watch your kit bag, socks, boots, shorts, pencils, whistles, RED and Yellows.   Who let that bollocks on?

What exactly have against TR? Why do you persistently attack referees, some of your postings are fairly accurate on the county, however you seem to want to have a pop at all costs? I don,t believe your a St Johns man, however thats irrelevant.

AAAAAhhhhhhh! Terrible one!  Should not take things so personal on here,   Sure it's only full of wannabes.  And why would you think I am not a St. John's man?  Who do you think I am then, Jophn McSparran, Fankie Quinn, Tyrone Eastwood, JM maybe?

[theskull1]

 

Still waiting on you telling us how North Antrim are have screwed up hurling Queenie. Is there any substance to your ramblings or is a bit of the oul sniping and throwing low digs all you're good for?