Antrim Football Thread

[NorthAntrim]

100%, every club has, by default inherited people integrating into the community by way of marriage, work related transfers etc... Cargin have had joy with the transfers of 1 or 2 almost a decade ago now, as had Creggan with the exodus of TNN men a while back, and thats their business. As for Casements, i know theyve had joy going back to their last county final in aquiring the service of a few bellaghy men and have been informed they now have currently 3 men on their senior team who have played for South Derry Clubs in the last 3 years. My own club however focus more on trying to retain what we have, and thats to the detriment of success.

so you've squashed the cargin factor as it was 10+ years ago but mentioned portglenones last county senior final which was how long ago?

[Níl a fhios agam]

My post was regarding Portglenone as it was topic of recent discussion that other contributors posted about. I didnt quash anything, if Cargin proactively went and sought players as Portglenone have done then thats wrong, no matter when it happened Why on this discussion board does everything come back round to the Toome men. Theres more to Antrim county than the people from the Lough.

[Níl a fhios agam]

100%, every club has, by default inherited people integrating into the community by way of marriage, work related transfers etc... Cargin have had joy with the transfers of 1 or 2 almost a decade ago now, as had Creggan with the exodus of TNN men a while back, and thats their business. As for Casements, i know theyve had joy going back to their last county final in aquiring the service of a few bellaghy men and have been informed they now have currently 3 men on their senior team who have played for South Derry Clubs in the last 3 years. My own club however focus more on trying to retain what we have, and thats to the detriment of success.

Regarding Portglenones Model and

100%, every club has, by default inherited people integrating into the community by way of marriage, work related transfers etc... Cargin have had joy with the transfers of 1 or 2 almost a decade ago now, as had Creggan with the exodus of TNN men a while back, and thats their business. As for Casements, i know theyve had joy going back to their last county final in aquiring the service of a few bellaghy men and have been informed they now have currently 3 men on their senior team who have played for South Derry Clubs in the last 3 years. My own club however focus more on trying to retain what we have, and thats to the detriment of success.

so you've squashed the cargin factor as it was 10+ years ago but mentioned portglenones last county senior final which was how long ago?

Not to ignore your comment about Portglenones last finals which you reached two of in the 'Noughties', its seems like if you were to kick on and reach the Final this year, it would be History repeating itself, as the team photo would contain a number of men obtained by your south derry neighbouring clubs. Point being, is success a price worth paying if it involves shafting home grown players. If so what is it saying about your ability to develop your own players and turn that into success....

Just an observation

[NorthAntrim]

My post was regarding Portglenone as it was topic of recent discussion that other contributors posted about. I didnt quash anything, if Cargin proactively went and sought players as Portglenone have done then thats wrong, no matter when it happened Why on this discussion board does everything come back round to the Toome men. Theres more to Antrim county than the people from the Lough.

If these players have fell out with their south derry clubs as has been rumoured and have approached Portglenone to transfer then whats the problem? Do Portglenone say no thanks we'd like to try and do it with players born this side of the Bann. I would very much doubt that Portglenone secretary was phoning EL on transfer deadline day Harry Redknapp style

[Níl a fhios agam]

I would say you are right, i dont think their secretary would be at that at all, infact i heard the committee was opposed to the transfer, however JMK did approach E.L. as well as the young lad he coached at bellaghy, who played for him last year. if i was a Casements underage coach id be questioning the clubs ethos regarding development of young players at senior level.

This was common knowledge by the way...

[Caesar]

My post was regarding Portglenone as it was topic of recent discussion that other contributors posted about. I didnt quash anything, if Cargin proactively went and sought players as Portglenone have done then thats wrong, no matter when it happened Why on this discussion board does everything come back round to the Toome men. Theres more to Antrim county than the people from the Lough.

Is this actually what happened here? That's a significant allegation so please share the facts!

My understanding is that it is usually a player who approaches a club, who then decide if they can accept the player.
 
In this case, it's two local players who fell out with their home club in a different county several years ago and haven't been able to play club football in Ireland ever since. Very different scenario from the picture you are trying to paint!

[bannside]

Massive difference Caesar, but never worry about the facts, it's all about the spin. I'm not even going to try to explain defend or justify, or give this any more oxygen. Yes a player who came up through the ranks may lose out on game time, but that's life, it will still go on.

[Níl a fhios agam]

"Significant allegation..."  you must think we are in a tribunal 

No one is saying Casements have broke any rules here or have done wrong, in fact it may be very beneficial to them and the players involved. Could be a win win for all.

Everyones just intrigued by JMK's strategy. Afterall was he also not involved in the recruitment of players who didnt actually attend Holy Trinity in Cookstown, but were in the Tech's, and got them to play McRory Football. There was 3rd year apprentice Mechanics, Joiners etc.. out playing for HTC.

Hence why the discussion Is widespread to see if bringing in neighboring club players will benefit them.It benefited his college. May get them to a county final and beyond, though will the young players who have played their whole life for the club and get pushed to bench/ reserves to make way for these guys feel aggrieved?

[Rodger Mona]

Anyone else watching any of the promoted teams at the weekend??

All games with the exception of Aldergrove seemed to be right an competitive.

Ballymena in particular, getting off to a flyer. Think the bottom 6 will be a dog fight and a few may find themselves in it that wont have expected to be.

[Milltown Row2]

The siege is starting earlier and earlier every season 

[NorthAntrim]

The St Brigids lads are loving the fact 'Níl a fhios agam' has created an account to have a go at Portglenone/JMK. Who's turn will it be next year???

[imtommygunn]

Anyone else watching any of the promoted teams at the weekend??

All games with the exception of Aldergrove seemed to be right an competitive.

Ballymena in particular, getting off to a flyer. Think the bottom 6 will be a dog fight and a few may find themselves in it that wont have expected to be.

Big win for ballymena. They've probably got more county players than St John's too. (Or at least an equal amount) glenravel and st Brigids tight enough too. St endas have less county players now too so I would expect them to do better in the league.

[Níl a fhios agam]

Naomh Eanna less county players though alot away. Aghgallon in a similar position.

Regarding St.Briids, they are the exact same IMO. though would hold Casements in a higher regard than them.

Only point i was trying to make on the overall topic, was inheriting players from other clubs isnt a simple equation which results in success. My club will never win nothing outside of Intermediates once a decade if we are lucky and we are content at that. Only thing we can do is try and better our coaching and increase our turnover of players. Id take that any day of the week over what Casements and Brigids have

[NorthAntrim]

Naomh Eanna less county players though alot away. Aghgallon in a similar position.

Regarding St.Briids, they are the exact same IMO. though would hold Casements in a higher regard than them.

Only point i was trying to make on the overall topic, was inheriting players from other clubs isnt a simple equation which results in success. My club will never win nothing outside of Intermediates once a decade if we are lucky and we are content at that. Only thing we can do is try and better our coaching and increase our turnover of players. Id take that any day of the week over what Casements and Brigids have

If a girl in your club married and lived in your area and her husband could play a bit id very much doubt hed be sitting on the bench for your reserves

[InnocentByStander]

My post was regarding Portglenone as it was topic of recent discussion that other contributors posted about. I didnt quash anything, if Cargin proactively went and sought players as Portglenone have done then thats wrong, no matter when it happened Why on this discussion board does everything come back round to the Toome men. Theres more to Antrim county than the people from the Lough.

Everyone wants to be the best, so compare yourself to the best, at one point in time it was st galls at this point in time its Cargin.