Brexit.

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trileacman

Quote from: armaghniac on October 11, 2019, 09:48:54 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on October 11, 2019, 09:20:33 PM
I think Labour are in some diffs. A lot of their MPs represent constituencies that voted leave. If they scupper Bozo's plan to get out by 31 October they'll get hammered at the polls.

They can hardly leave in an orderly way by 31 October at this stage, they'll need an extension, there isn't time to pass all the legislation.

You've taken it up all wrong. The deadline of the 31st is the no-deal or plan how Britain leaves the EU. Johnson's deal with the EU will be to continue in the institution for 2-3 years whilst final negotiations are concluded.
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omaghjoe

Quote from: trileacman on October 11, 2019, 10:53:41 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 11, 2019, 09:48:54 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on October 11, 2019, 09:20:33 PM
I think Labour are in some diffs. A lot of their MPs represent constituencies that voted leave. If they scupper Bozo's plan to get out by 31 October they'll get hammered at the polls.

They can hardly leave in an orderly way by 31 October at this stage, they'll need an extension, there isn't time to pass all the legislation.

You've taken it up all wrong. The deadline of the 31st is the no-deal or plan how Britain leaves the EU. Johnson's deal with the EU will be to continue in the institution for 2-3 years whilst final negotiations are concluded.

No.... Once Article 50 is invoked you have the 2 years to get an agreement for arrangements after you leave. When the 2 years are up you leave the EU under the terms of that agreement (or ask for an extension for more time to come to an agreement.
After that you will be out under the terms of that agreement, and you can have further agreements on trade, security or whatever else you fancy.

31 Oct is the end of that 2 year period (plus extension) after invoking Article50. So if there is no agreement in place by then, there will be no deal. The UK will be out of the EU and trade will conducted on WTO terms. It is practically impossible to get a deal thru at this point. If BoJo is serious he will need an extension no matter what he says.

armaghniac

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Quote from: trileacman on October 11, 2019, 10:53:41 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 11, 2019, 09:48:54 PM
They can hardly leave in an orderly way by 31 October at this stage, they'll need an extension, there isn't time to pass all the legislation.

But even a move to the transition period requires some legislation, I would have thought. Nowhere near as much as no deal, but some legal loose ends to be tied up.
You've taken it up all wrong. The deadline of the 31st is the no-deal or plan how Britain leaves the EU. Johnson's deal with the EU will be to continue in the institution for 2-3 years whilst final negotiations are concluded.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

under the bar

The grotesque ditch-pig that is Arlene will be thrown to the wolves very soon.  Meanwhile the penguin-shagger and other waivers will be bought by Tory cash.  Dodds and Jeffrey have been chosen as the men to sell defeat to the DUPed sheep.

yellowcard

Quote from: under the bar on October 12, 2019, 05:21:47 PM
The grotesque ditch-pig that is Arlene will be thrown to the wolves very soon. Meanwhile the penguin-shagger and other waivers will be bought by Tory cash.  Dodds and Jeffrey have been chosen as the men to sell defeat to the DUPed sheep.

Once Brexit and RHI is done and dusted she will be toast.

mouview

Quote from: yellowcard on October 12, 2019, 05:39:53 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 12, 2019, 05:21:47 PM
The grotesque ditch-pig that is Arlene will be thrown to the wolves very soon. Meanwhile the penguin-shagger and other waivers will be bought by Tory cash.  Dodds and Jeffrey have been chosen as the men to sell defeat to the DUPed sheep.

Once Brexit and RHI is done and dusted she will be toast.

And what then takes her place? DUP isn't exactly a hotbed of moderation.

seafoid

Quote from: yellowcard on October 12, 2019, 05:39:53 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 12, 2019, 05:21:47 PM
The grotesque ditch-pig that is Arlene will be thrown to the wolves very soon. Meanwhile the penguin-shagger and other waivers will be bought by Tory cash.  Dodds and Jeffrey have been chosen as the men to sell defeat to the DUPed sheep.

Once Brexit and RHI is done and dusted she will be toast.
Brexit is a liability for the DUP now. If it goes to a second referendum it won't happen
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Quote from: mouview on October 13, 2019, 11:36:47 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 12, 2019, 05:39:53 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 12, 2019, 05:21:47 PM
The grotesque ditch-pig that is Arlene will be thrown to the wolves very soon. Meanwhile the penguin-shagger and other waivers will be bought by Tory cash.  Dodds and Jeffrey have been chosen as the men to sell defeat to the DUPed sheep.

Once Brexit and RHI is done and dusted she will be toast.

And what then takes her place? DUP isn't exactly a hotbed of moderation.

You saying they need another FreeP moderator in charge?
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Ian Og or Nelson?
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that says what he means and
means what he says...

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dec

I saw this comment from Arlene, it is from a few days ago.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/brexit/brexit-deal-that-works-for-everyone-eminently-possible-claims-dups-arlene-foster-37399448.html

"I hope that there is realism that you cannot separate out part of a nation from the rest of the nation," Mrs Foster said.


Milltown Row2

Quote from: An Watcher on October 11, 2019, 07:50:13 PM
Are the DUP finally getting thrown under the bus? About time

Preferably a Wright bus
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armaghniac

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2019, 10:08:08 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on October 11, 2019, 07:50:13 PM
Are the DUP finally getting thrown under the bus? About time

Preferably a Wright bus

Ulster will be Wright.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

omaghjoe

A lot of talk  that they're close deal in principle and there could be a legal text tomorrow...sounds like an NI only backstop.

I dare say IF they get there it will be another Parliament numbers game.... after an imminent extension.