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Pure unadulterated hate, it just happened to transfer from the non-whites to a woman there... Vile

I'd say it there was dole parity with the North, this would sort alot of this out

Garda need to start recording these incidents and scoop these scumbags up later.

Continuing with the trend of creating parallels between current events and events that occurred during the course of Irish History (eg October 7th/Easter Rising) if the Bean Garda in the video clip was a female Black and Tan or B Special would the abuse have been justified?

So you don't accept that Hamas committed rape (and gang rape ) on 10/07

Fair enough

Believe whatever you want

Read the full UN report or even what i copied from Guterres in my last post..

again, the UN team "was unable to establish the prevalence of sexual violence and concludes that the overall magnitude, scope, and specific attribution of these violations would require a fully-fledged investigation."

The Patten's report notes, Israel has consistently refused to cooperate with independent UN investigators.

Patten and her team were unable to locate a single victim and did not speak to any alleged survivors of sexual violence or rape – despite making a public appeal for such survivors to come forward and speak confidentially and with assurances of safety and privacy. 

the AP had an article only this week debunking two fake rape claims by Israel. there is numerous other claims that have been debunked or were pure conjecture based on blood stains. There is one potential credible claim by A. Soussana

if you genuinely cared about rape victims or kidnapped victims you would care about the the over 3500 held in administrative detention by Israel and all Palestinians victims which you ignore as you try an wepaonise rape to dehumanise Palestinians.

Wow

We even have a video of a teenage girl with blood and feces coming out of her arse being dragged by the hair out of a keep and that's what you come up.

God help us

So you don't accept that Hamas committed rape (and gang rape ) on 10/07

Fair enough

Believe whatever you want

[firstly there us no evidence of gang rape, and they are not using their people as human shields]

6th time of asking

are Israel animals and should they be wiped from the face of the planet whitey?

No and No

There would be no war in Gaza were it not for the actions of Hamas on 10/07

They acted like animals, (gang raping,
Kidnapping and murdering teenage girls) and are now using their own people as human shields.

Israel will stop short of nothing less than the complete destruction of Hamas and unfortunately Hamas have put their own civilians in the middle

firstly there us no evidence of gang rape, and they are not using their people as human shields.

there is evidence over many years that Israel has raped, kidnapped (they have caged 2.2m in gaza) and murdered alot more teenage girls  amd this was all prior to Oct 7th. there has been plenty of wars in gaza, protective edge and cast lead are two where thousands women and children were murdered by Israel.

there would be no resistence to occupation without the occupation and Israel is responsible for the occupation. I could go on about Israel allowing funding for Hamas to split the palestinans or that it was Israeli funds that helped establish Hamas bit to show how Israel is responsible but I'd be wasting my time with you.

like the Israelis you are happy to dehumanise Palestinians.

you are holding Israel ( who are right now committing a genocide) to a very different standard to Hamas and should be careful as holding Israel to a different standard can be considered anti semitic or that maybe argument is only used if you criticise Israel.

Believe whatever you want

The evidence is there, you are just choosing to ignore it

You don't believe the Israelis

You don't believe the UN

Heck-You don't even believe Hamas (when they ADMITTED to doing it)

6th time of asking

are Israel animals and should they be wiped from the face of the planet whitey?

No and No

There would be no war in Gaza were it not for the actions of Hamas on 10/07

They acted like animals, (gang raping,
Kidnapping and murdering teenage girls) and are now using their own people as human shields.

Israel will stop short of nothing less than the complete destruction of Hamas and unfortunately Hamas have put their own civilians in the middle

whitey post 2990 and post 3017.. still waiting on an answer..

Repost them and I'll answer them

Here is a times if Israel article on Hamas offering long term ceasefire from 2015.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-offers-long-term-ceasefire-in-exchange-for-end-of-blockade/amp/

We know Hamas offered to release all non combatant hostages in early October but Israel rejected it as it included not entering Gaza.

Did you bother reading any of the comments

One example:

"Hamas wants a seaport and airport to receive weapons from Iran and other states and terrorist organizartions. Only a new Gaza with a democratic regime where the people are free can be trusted. Hamas cannot."

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/artc-father-and-son-terrorists-admit-to-murder-and-rape-of-israeli-women-on-oct-7

Lovely individuals-very "heroic"

In his own words

"He shamelessly described raping a crying woman at gunpoint and leaving her without knowing her fate. Abdallah's confession revealed a more harrowing truth: his father killed the woman after multiple rapes by the terrorists, including himself and his cousin"

I've not seen anyone giving blind support to Hamas, but in keeping with your bad faith comments.

Would you call children that are killed in war as non combatants

of course, why would anyone consider them combatants...

I haven't seen that term used for the deaths in Gaza, its generally women and children killed that has been used

true, in gaza if you are male and non combatant you don't really count. In Israel there is conscription and more Female IDF so speaking in women and children isn't as clear.

So just use it for Israeli deaths as they have conscription? If you are an unarmed woman or child from any side you are still a woman or child.

I'm an ends doesn't justify the means type person, one loss of life is one too many. So many senseless deaths here over the years hasn't really got us any further, the shift in population will, and won't cause any deaths

I've no idea how they can solve the Gaza situation as Israel won't be going anywhere and the Palestinians will rebuild and have another generation of people that have been tortured/killed and locked up, mad cycle.

Unless there is a moderate government in Israel then this won't even be fixed in our lifetime

Milltown I know you are a let the palestinans continue to suffer under their occupation until the occupier decides otherwise guy. the west donw nothing for 75 years only arm and watch on as Israel every few years 'mows the lawn'... I support international  Law ans it allows resistence and that threshold for armed resistence is clearly been met for Palestinans to rise up against their oppressor and occupier and I fully support that. ( within international law)

if you are a non combatant you are a civilian etc. which would include men, women and children. As stated if you provide women and children for the Israeli dead many will be combantants, the Israeli dead is usually provided as a total including both, Palestinians are usually provided as women and children and a total number.

I think in terms of using sticks and stones in comparison to what Israel has to use against Palestine then you can uprise to the cows come home there will be only one outcome.

Nothing will be resolved unless they sit around a table, create the conditions for that and that's the best outcome 75 years will be 150 years and so on if they do not sit and discuss

I know you are they type of guy that sits at home on a computer type of guy and wave a flag maybe not use Israeli products but that won't stop non combatants from being obliterated 

I am that guy and more and understand how little impact it has but at least I fully support all legal efforts for palestinains while you sit at home on your computer happy for them to die slowing, and stupidly not know that palestinans have numerous times sat at those tables and been offered nothing and somehow speak to me as if you have some moral superiority...

Hamas are using their own civilians as human shields

They are as just much to blame for civilian deaths as the Israelis

So it's nothing to do with the big fúcking bombs the IDF are dropping on built up areas and even refugee camps?

Are Hamas also to blame for the Palestinians being killed on the West Bank?

Sweet Jesus!

So if the Hamas operatives who perpetrated the atrocities on 10/07 are hiding out in a refugee camp are they not responsible for the inevitable bombardment that's sure to follow?

I've not seen anyone giving blind support to Hamas, but in keeping with your bad faith comments.

Would you call children that are killed in war as non combatants

of course, why would anyone consider them combatants...

I haven't seen that term used for the deaths in Gaza, its generally women and children killed that has been used

true, in gaza if you are male and non combatant you don't really count. In Israel there is conscription and more Female IDF so speaking in women and children isn't as clear.

So just use it for Israeli deaths as they have conscription? If you are an unarmed woman or child from any side you are still a woman or child.

I'm an ends doesn't justify the means type person, one loss of life is one too many. So many senseless deaths here over the years hasn't really got us any further, the shift in population will, and won't cause any deaths

I've no idea how they can solve the Gaza situation as Israel won't be going anywhere and the Palestinians will rebuild and have another generation of people that have been tortured/killed and locked up, mad cycle.

Unless there is a moderate government in Israel then this won't even be fixed in our lifetime

Milltown I know you are a let the palestinans continue to suffer under their occupation until the occupier decides otherwise guy. the west donw nothing for 75 years only arm and watch on as Israel every few years 'mows the lawn'... I support international  Law ans it allows resistence and that threshold for armed resistence is clearly been met for Palestinans to rise up against their oppressor and occupier and I fully support that. ( within international law)

if you are a non combatant you are a civilian etc. which would include men, women and children. As stated if you provide women and children for the Israeli dead many will be combantants, the Israeli dead is usually provided as a total including both, Palestinians are usually provided as women and children and a total number.

I think in terms of using sticks and stones in comparison to what Israel has to use against Palestine then you can uprise to the cows come home there will be only one outcome.

Nothing will be resolved unless they sit around a table, create the conditions for that and that's the best outcome 75 years will be 150 years and so on if they do not sit and discuss

I know you are they type of guy that sits at home on a computer type of guy and wave a flag maybe not use Israeli products but that won't stop non combatants from being obliterated 

I am that guy and more and understand how little impact it has but at least I fully support all legal efforts for palestinains while you sit at home on your computer happy for them to die slowing, and stupidly not know that palestinans have numerous times sat at those tables and been offered nothing and somehow speak to me as if you have some moral superiority...

Hamas are using their own civilians as human shields

They are as just much to blame for civilian deaths as the Israelis

The whole thing doesn't make any sense

Netanyahu was about to get booted out of office and a less hardline Israeli PM was the likely successor

World opinion in general was very sympathetic toward the Palestinians

Relations were being normalized between Israeli and other Muslim countries

Now all of that "progress" has gone up in flames

I asked this yesterday and I'll ask it again- What exactly we're Hamas hoping to accomplish by their actions on 10/07?

Not alone has their country been destroyed and tens of thousands of their civilians killed, but they may very well get Trump elected ....you know Trump, the guy who tried to ban Muslims from entering the US

so you didn't answer my question.

What question

The whole thing doesn't make any sense

Netanyahu was about to get booted out of office and a less hardline Israeli PM was the likely successor

World opinion in general was very sympathetic toward the Palestinians

Relations were being normalized between Israeli and other Muslim countries

Now all of that "progress" has gone up in flames

I asked this yesterday and I'll ask it again- What exactly we're Hamas hoping to accomplish by their actions on 10/07?

Not alone has their country been destroyed and tens of thousands of their civilians killed, but they may very well get Trump elected ....you know Trump, the guy who tried to ban Muslims from entering the US

All I see here are lots of lads with their eyes wide shut. You can't even entertain the possibility that Hamas fighters may have raped some women. The same fighters that were gunning down unarmed civilian. Do you deny that also? 

No one is doubting that Israel is a liar and has made up completely spurious stories regarding what happened. They can't help themselves. No one is denying that they are a shower of murdering genocidal criminals. They are cited in the ICC report for it.

But both the UN and ICC say they have grounds to believe sexual violence took place. I'll withhold judgement myself thanks. None of us have seen the evidence and neither have any of your favourite online news blogs.

where have I or anyone not entertained it? I have been consistent and twice in the last 3 posts have said sexual assaults happen in all conflicts... Amit Soussana is the only potential creditable report. the AP (maybe they might meet your standard of reporting) yesterday have a laughable debunking of two Zaka fake claims which were are are widely reported.

again yesterday widely shared on social media was the a video of idf soldiers being captured with fake translation associated with it, already debunked.

you stay ignoring rape by Israelis, torture, genocide, ethic cleansing and keep to to the zionist talking points.

I've said Israel are criminals and committing genocide.

I note also the UN report cited Israeli soldiers for sexual violence and threats at checkpoints. You accept those UN findings, right?

you have 50 posts, under this name (you might be a regeneration of a previously banned poster) and on this topic your focus is zionist talking points.

I dont need UN findings, there is testimonials by former soldiers and current solider admitting it, there is media reporting. The IDF have raped around the world and even their own within the IDF..

What Zionist talking points do you mean exactly?

I didn't intend to get into this argument, I merely brought up that rape was a part of the ICC citation against Hamas members when someone else described the whole thing as debunked.

It's not much of a discussion board if you aren't allowed to have a discussion about certain topics.

1. you have ignore most if not all my questions
2. you have focus on the rape claims,

almost all Israeli claims have been debunked and these claims were printed in the NY times, across MSM and widely accepted before being debunked.

if you read beyond the headlines of the ICC and UN reports the language used and claims appear to be directly from the same debunked Israeli sources.. I have quoted the UN report numerous times now... the Israeli do not allow independent assessments either and no one into Gaza.

So you don't believe the UN Report?

"following allegations of brutal sexual violence committed during and in the aftermath of the Hamas-led terror attacks, Pramila Patten, the Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Sexual Violence in Conflict, led an official visit to Israel from 29 January to 14 February to gather, analyse and verify reports of sexual violence related to the 7 October attack"

"It was a catalogue of the most extreme and inhumane forms of killing, torture and other horrors," including sexual violence, she stated.  The team also found convincing information that sexual violence was committed against hostages, and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may still be ongoing against those in captivity"

So you don't believe the Israelis

You don't believe the UN

The only ones you believe are Hamas

Interesting

What I see is a massive number of claims made by Israel politicians and their media parrots to completely dehumanise an entire population being used a some sort of excuse for them subsequently flattening Gaza. The systematic rape (including anal), 40 beheaded babies, babies in ovens, and the cutting babies out of wombs claims... ALL DEBUNKED... are still being spouted.

No one that I can see is claiming that there may have been isolated instances of rape. How did you miss that?

Speaking as someone whose great grandfather spent time in Frongoch after the 1916 rising, I am highly offended that people on here seem to think there's some moral equivalence between the events of October 7th and the 1916 Rising

Hamas are animals that should be wiped off the face of the planet

https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15621.doc.htm

"It was a catalogue of the most extreme and inhumane forms of killing, torture and other horrors," including sexual violence, she stated.  The team also found convincing information that sexual violence was committed against hostages, and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may still be ongoing against those in captivity"

I must have been off school the day the covered the part where the Men of 1916 anally raped the teenagers at a music festival


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna141789