2016 All Stars

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Gold

#360
Quote from: macdanger2 on November 05, 2016, 09:27:58 AM
Are Connolly & Cavanagh the only forwards who get held? Or the only ones who react?

Definetly not. Cooper and McMahon and these boys hold onto men all day long...but it isnt what people pay in to see. People want to see Connolly dummy soloing and kicking balls over with the outside of his boot. They dont pay in to see boys hanging onto boys jerseys

People are getting carried away with Keegan saying "isnt he great, he 'held' Cavanagh scoreless"

The thing is he literally just 'held' Cavanagh.

Id love him to be from Antrim tbf! Id love him to hold onto Cavanagh if he played for us and could keep him scoreless.

But calling a spade a spade its part of, but its anti football, fouling and not what purists pay in to see
"Cheeky Charlie McKenna..."

Rossfan

If this non stop fouling is going on
Why are Refs not giving frees and yellow cards?
Why are umpires and linesmen not drawing the Refs' attentions to it.

Apply the rules!
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

seafoid

Quote from: INDIANA on November 04, 2016, 11:34:36 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on November 04, 2016, 09:40:17 PM
Can't believe how Kilkenny was in top three for POTY. Lucky to get even get an all star.

It's called talent. I appreciate it's in short supply in tyrone these days. So you may have forgotten what it looks like.

Quite happy to help you out though

Good man Indy
Just remember ní h uasal ná íseal ach thus seal agus thíos seal.

tippabu

Quote from: Gold on November 05, 2016, 09:41:07 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on November 05, 2016, 09:27:58 AM
Are Connolly & Cavanagh the only forwards who get held? Or the only ones who react?

Definetly not. Cooper and McMahon and these boys hold onto men all day long...but it isnt what people pay in to see. People want to see Connolly dummy soloing and kicking balls over with the outside of his boot. They dont pay in to see boys hanging onto boys jerseys

People are getting carried away with Keegan saying "isnt he great, he 'held' Cavanagh scoreless"

The thing is he literally just 'held' Cavanagh.

Id love him to be from Antrim tbf! Id love him to hold onto Cavanagh if he played for us and could keep him scoreless.

But calling a spade a spade its part of, but its anti football, fouling and not what purists pay in to see

Exact same against tipp, he kept quinlivan scoreless from play but fouled his for 4/5 easy frees and fouled constantly, any other player would be getting 2 yellows or a black for consistant fouling

Syferus

#364
Incredible that the voting panel got a PotY correct for once. Keegan richly deserved the award. Way better than Jack Mc last year or even Lacy back in 2012. Can't remember a defender who struck the balance between actually defending and attacking as well as Keegan did this year.

Tomas was a hoor for running up the field and being gassed when he got back to do his primary job in his later years, and he's far from the only 'big name' defender who had trouble doing the basics right. Keegan stopped his men and went up the field and scored himself. You can't really ask any more from a player.

The fact any supporter could have watched this year's championship and think Fenton or Kilkenny deserved this more is frightening in the extreme. Partisanship is one thing but it was blindingly obvious Keegan was the best player on the field in the AI finals.

Farrandeelin

It's an awful fûcking travesty Keegan and Clarke weren't on the pitch at the same time in the replay.
Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.


maigheo

Quote from: Syferus on November 05, 2016, 03:25:36 PM
Incredible that the voting panel got a PotY correct for once. Keegan richly deserved the award. Way better than Jack Mc last year or even Lacy back in 2012. Can't remember a defender who struck the balance between actually defending and attacking as well as Keegan did this year.

Tomas was a hoor for running up the field and being gassed when he got back to do his primary job in his later years, and he's far from the only 'big name' defender who had trouble doing the basics right. Keegan stopped his men and went up the field and scored himself. You can't really ask any more from a player.

The fact any supporter could have watched this year's championship and think Fenton or Kilkenny deserved this more is frightening in the extreme. Partisanship is one thing but it was blindingly obvious Keegan was the best player on the field in the AI finals.
For once I agree with you,syferus.Keegan was the best player by a country mile in this years championship and no other player really came close.

ONeill

I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

maigheo

I see Dublin are beginning to parade out there former players to knock Keegans POtY award starting with Vinnie Murphy in the Sindo.According to the bould Vinnie all Keegan does all game long is pull and drag his opponent and contributes nothing else.Wonder who will be giving there insight all next week,perhaps Charlie Redmond .   Cannot wait. :) :)

seafoid


orangeman

Quote from: seafoid on November 06, 2016, 07:49:17 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 05, 2016, 08:53:27 PM
Quare bitta analysis for Ulsteronians

http://www.performasports.com/news/ulster-sfc-all-star-team-2016-selected-from-player-analysis

Performa is very interesting
But is it standardising performances ?

Having Conor MC Manus for example  in last place suggests so.

J70

Quote from: Syferus on November 05, 2016, 03:25:36 PM
Incredible that the voting panel got a PotY correct for once. Keegan richly deserved the award. Way better than Jack Mc last year or even Lacy back in 2012. Can't remember a defender who struck the balance between actually defending and attacking as well as Keegan did this year.

Tomas was a hoor for running up the field and being gassed when he got back to do his primary job in his later years, and he's far from the only 'big name' defender who had trouble doing the basics right. Keegan stopped his men and went up the field and scored himself. You can't really ask any more from a player.

The fact any supporter could have watched this year's championship and think Fenton or Kilkenny deserved this more is frightening in the extreme. Partisanship is one thing but it was blindingly obvious Keegan was the best player on the field in the AI finals.

What a load of bollocks.

You can make an argument that Colm McFadden equally deserved the award in 2012, but Lacey was absolutely extraordinary that season too, as he was most seasons in his career. He was the fulcrum of the team in McGuinness' first two seasons, before the injuries, organizing the defense and launching attacks and showing up vital scores (its no coincidence that he played the two key passes in the build up to Donegal's goals in the 2012 final). Any man who doubts his contribution and importance to that team and his level of performance is merely showing his utter ignorance. Lacey will go down as one of the two or three greatest Donegal players ever.


Il Bomber Destro

Quote from: J70 on November 06, 2016, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Syferus on November 05, 2016, 03:25:36 PM
Incredible that the voting panel got a PotY correct for once. Keegan richly deserved the award. Way better than Jack Mc last year or even Lacy back in 2012. Can't remember a defender who struck the balance between actually defending and attacking as well as Keegan did this year.

Tomas was a hoor for running up the field and being gassed when he got back to do his primary job in his later years, and he's far from the only 'big name' defender who had trouble doing the basics right. Keegan stopped his men and went up the field and scored himself. You can't really ask any more from a player.

The fact any supporter could have watched this year's championship and think Fenton or Kilkenny deserved this more is frightening in the extreme. Partisanship is one thing but it was blindingly obvious Keegan was the best player on the field in the AI finals.

What a load of bollocks.

You can make an argument that Colm McFadden equally deserved the award in 2012, but Lacey was absolutely extraordinary that season too, as he was most seasons in his career. He was the fulcrum of the team in McGuinness' first two seasons, before the injuries, organizing the defense and launching attacks and showing up vital scores (its no coincidence that he played the two key passes in the build up to Donegal's goals in the 2012 final). Any man who doubts his contribution and importance to that team and his level of performance is merely showing his utter ignorance. Lacey will go down as one of the two or three greatest Donegal players ever.

+1 Lacey was absolutely unbelievable in 2012. He's looked done in the past few years but certainly an all time great.