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There'll be some debauchery going on there I'll say...
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Orangemac

Any chance of young McClean making a late bid for the Euros squad?

Played well today on left hand side for Sunderland but with Duff,Hunt and McGeady all certain of their places, it may come too soon for him.

Applesisapples

Quote from: Orangemac on January 09, 2012, 12:35:49 AM
Any chance of young McClean making a late bid for the Euros squad?

Played well today on left hand side for Sunderland but with Duff,Hunt and McGeady all certain of their places, it may come too soon for him.
He looks a better bet than McGeady and is way better than Hunt.

Clown

so Traps going to drop one of Irelands top 3 performers from the qualifying campaign (mcgeady) for a rookie whos made 5 top level appearances?

would be very surprised if any uncapped players made the squad

AFS

Quote from: Clown on January 09, 2012, 10:32:43 AM
so Traps going to drop one of Irelands top 3 performers from the qualifying campaign (mcgeady) for a rookie whos made 5 top level appearances?

would be very surprised if any uncapped players made the squad

Yeah, Trapattoni will be well aware that picking a tournament squad is about more than footballing ability. With the group stuck with each other for the best part of a month, he's unlikely to take any chances on new lads that might upset the mood. McClean is probably one for the 2014 campaign.

Applesisapples

Quote from: Clown on January 09, 2012, 10:32:43 AM
so Traps going to drop one of Irelands top 3 performers from the qualifying campaign (mcgeady) for a rookie whos made 5 top level appearances?

would be very surprised if any uncapped players made the squad
He won't it's not in his nature, I wouldn't have McGeady in the top three, too inconsistent and he hasn't kicked on from leaving Celtic.

Clown

yeah he's inconsistent and frustrating, but in this campaign he was one of the better players, involved in either scoring or setting up numerous goals and was our best attacking threat in my opinion, his defensive play and discipline also improved
he has improved since leaving Celtic

Larry Duff

Quote from: Applesisapples on January 09, 2012, 09:32:52 AM
Quote from: Orangemac on January 09, 2012, 12:35:49 AM
Any chance of young McClean making a late bid for the Euros squad?

Played well today on left hand side for Sunderland but with Duff,Hunt and McGeady all certain of their places, it may come too soon for him.
He looks a better bet than McGeady and is way better than Hunt.

FFS this is getting tiresome. What do people expect from McGeady playing in the system used by Trap? He has adapted his game to include all the tracking back required and as teams at international level are harder to break down he is not going to have the same attacking impact as playing in the SPL.

It annoys me to hear the predictable moaning when he loses possession.  In the current system he is often the out-ball, but when he gets possession what are his options? No overlapping full back, no central midfielder backing up the play, strikers not dropping deep but pushing into the box gambling that he can beat 2-3 men and get a cross over. The result is that McGeady has to continually take the defenders on but is often out numbered and dispossessed. Trap is happy with this in his system as losing the ball high up the pitch is fine when no other midfielders or defenders have been committed forward. The logic seems to be that it only needs to come off for McGeady 1-2 times in game to create a chance or score a goal, combined with the defensive system this should be enough to win the game.

McGeady always had the ability and now has the discipline to play in Trap's system. There are others that have ability like Coleman, McCarthy and possibly McClean (bit premature on this one I think) but may not have the discipline to fit into Trap's system. Anyone watching these players at club level thinking they would give Ireland something different is deluded. If they play for Trap they will have to play to suit his system, as McGeady does, and would they be any better in this role? I doubt it.

ludermor

Stephen Ireland is back on form and Andy Reid is flying fit at forest........

Main Street

Trap's system has already allowed for one galloping full back to get up in support at every opportunity.

McClean's first task is to adjust and perform in an unfamiliar team in an international friendly. I'd say his likely target for a place in the squad is Hunt's place. Andy Keogh is already a goner. 5 forwards, 8 midfielders & 7 backs  looks the more likely Finals' squad make up. Wide midfielders  - Duff, McGeady, Fahey and Hunt/McClean/Lawrence
CM    Whelan, Andrews, McCarthy  An Other

Denn Forever

Quote from: ludermor on January 10, 2012, 11:50:30 AM
Stephen Ireland is back on form and Andy Reid is flying fit at forest........

And what about the forgotten combination of these 2 players, doing well at WBA?

Wouldn't expect too many changes in personnel in the final squad.
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Applesisapples

Quote from: Larry Duff on January 10, 2012, 10:32:08 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 09, 2012, 09:32:52 AM
Quote from: Orangemac on January 09, 2012, 12:35:49 AM
Any chance of young McClean making a late bid for the Euros squad?

Played well today on left hand side for Sunderland but with Duff,Hunt and McGeady all certain of their places, it may come too soon for him.
He looks a better bet than McGeady and is way better than Hunt.

FFS this is getting tiresome. What do people expect from McGeady playing in the system used by Trap? He has adapted his game to include all the tracking back required and as teams at international level are harder to break down he is not going to have the same attacking impact as playing in the SPL.

It annoys me to hear the predictable moaning when he loses possession.  In the current system he is often the out-ball, but when he gets possession what are his options? No overlapping full back, no central midfielder backing up the play, strikers not dropping deep but pushing into the box gambling that he can beat 2-3 men and get a cross over. The result is that McGeady has to continually take the defenders on but is often out numbered and dispossessed. Trap is happy with this in his system as losing the ball high up the pitch is fine when no other midfielders or defenders have been committed forward. The logic seems to be that it only needs to come off for McGeady 1-2 times in game to create a chance or score a goal, combined with the defensive system this should be enough to win the game.

McGeady always had the ability and now has the discipline to play in Trap's system. There are others that have ability like Coleman, McCarthy and possibly McClean (bit premature on this one I think) but may not have the discipline to fit into Trap's system. Anyone watching these players at club level thinking they would give Ireland something different is deluded. If they play for Trap they will have to play to suit his system, as McGeady does, and would they be any better in this role? I doubt it.
Why is someone elses opinion tiresome? it is a discussion board afterall.

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: Orangemac on January 09, 2012, 12:35:49 AM
Any chance of young McClean making a late bid for the Euros squad?

Played well today on left hand side for Sunderland but with Duff,Hunt and McGeady all certain of their places, it may come too soon for him.

Might be a bit too soon for him although he would probably be worth taking a flyer on as someone to throw on against tired teams with 20 minutes to go.

Duffer is coming towards the end though so McLean has a direct route into the squad after the Euros for definite.

Leo

Quote from: Denn Forever on January 10, 2012, 12:33:18 PM
Quote from: ludermor on January 10, 2012, 11:50:30 AM
Stephen Ireland is back on form and Andy Reid is flying fit at forest........

And what about the forgotten combination of these 2 players, doing well at WBA?

Wouldn't expect too many changes in personnel in the final squad.

Andy Reid is a bit time sub at Forest (same as he was at Sunderland when the Dublin cheerleaders were filling up air time on his behalf). Stephen Ireland is history, thank God.
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