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We shouldn't be starting juvenile leagues early March for a start and also in my opinion not running minor games on a Sunday which is puts pressure on referee numbers also.
Gaahead, it's been raised for years and task forces and meetings and it has be tried this way and that but it's needs changed again and I think it will.  I'm talking about underage hurling and boys football.
The camogie and ladies football is a different story

Your point is fair MR2 about playing both codes to senior but what do you do with the clubs that only play one code?

Are we saying that our games are just fun at underage? Kids want games, that's what you train for.

U12 down will be go games and above that has to be developmental yes but competitive.

A lot of good points there but the challenge game doesn't work if the neighbouring counties are playing games every week and we are the only county in Ulster who run dual to the level we do.

That's how I'd see it going for football and hurling for the leagues, 2 games a week for dual then spread out for championship

Most definitely not, my own club is a dual.

We need to look at the calendar and hopefully get the geographical split in the leagues even for a first round of fixtures.

What we can't have is single code clubs waiting 2 weeks for a game, even if this means divisional competitions filling the void.

You said it worked in other counties and I asked you where and could we work on that.

I know it's not easy but what we are doing at the minute isn't the way forward and I've expressed that opinion away from this board.

Looking at U15 this year there are 27 club teams playing football out in of that 10 are dual clubs.

At u17 25 teams playing football with 10 of them being dual.

I've left amalgamations out of it that but there are 2 at u15 hurling and 3 at u17 hurling with 1 at u17 football.

Which counties do you see it working MR2, and how can we make it more like them.

Our underages league are not near the level they were under south west divisional board from my own point of view
Under all county it's becomes a mess trying to please everybody and it's impossible to do so.

Fixtures running every 2 weeks is no use to anyone. We need weekly fixtures at u12/14/16 and18s next year. We can't do away with games for the majority because of dual players in the minority

Rasharkin Creggan Clooney and Tir na Og Dunloy  and others are a big mix of dual players, I personally love turning up one week at a club and the lads are hurling then next week same lads are out with the big ball!

They are slightly different in their approach to the ref also 

The games are what they are, hurling one week football the next, if you are only playing one code then find another sport if you feel it's not enough.
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You are way off the mark there MR2 and they will find another sport that provides them weekly games.

You may love reffing a different code every week buts it's no use to bring players throug

Fixtures running every 2 weeks is no use to anyone. We need weekly fixtures at u12/14/16 and18s next year. We can't do away with games for the majority because of dual players in the minority

Giving some of the stuff you say on here Belfast Gaa man, you didn't get half enough

Sooner we get back to Under12,14,16 and 18 the better and move minor games to away from Sundays as well.

Agree on that Bannside for sure.

I would say that clubs need to be providing the best coaches to work at county level.

It takes clubs with a strong GAA culture for that to be able to happen and again would show a big difference between ourselves and some other counties.

We have too many young players playing say on a Thursday night at u15 level who just play Gaelic, they have no ambition to be senior footballers for their club never mind their county and truth be told we have had too many coaches over the years who will disappear from a club when their child stops playing.

Clubs are for life not just for Christmas

The successful schools no doubt have a high standard set up but the clubs around them are providing the players.

We can debate on here to the cows come home but our clubs as a whole aren't as strong as in Tyrone or Derry for example.

It's up to us to make sure our clubs are as good as they can be and the rest will follow.

Tables, Ladders and Chairs Tag team match

The Legion of Saffron V The Voicewhackers

Worth £5 of any man's money

Well done to Conhuir Johnston on his College Allstar

We got promoted to Div 2 and the consensus was to play the championship of the league we are in