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#31
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
July 04, 2018, 12:58:23 PM
notable parallel from last year in the AFL over home/neutral issues, have posted a few quotes, interesting question at the end from the article, I cant think of any recent examples...

Full article here
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/geelong/geelong-wants-all-its-home-finals-to-be-played-at-simonds-stadium-except-grand-final/news-story/f5e8f6f122618f1070eea0da3d76cef6

"Geelong wants all its home finals to be played at Simonds Stadium, except Grand Final

Cats president Colin Carter on Friday told the Herald Sun the AFL's position of moving finals to neutral venues to boost capacity was "indefensible".

Carter has called on the league to put in place a clear policy about how it fixtures finals venues.

But while he admits convincing the league to play preliminary finals at the 34,000-seat capacity Simonds Stadium is a challenge, he says the Cats deserve the right.

The Cats plan to increase the capacity of Simonds Stadium to 40,000 in coming years and also want to play all 11 home-and-away games there.

AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan said last Saturday the league did not want to prevent fans from attending finals at smaller-capacity stadiums.

But Carter says the AFL's view does not stack up with world sport and denies clubs their natural right to home finals.

"If you have earned the right to a home final lets accept the Grand Final is at the MCG but I think everything else should be up for grabs.

"Name one other competition around the world where monetising (a final) takes precedence over earned right.

"You would be hard pushed to find it."
#32
nice gesture of Arlene to show up.
#33
The outfit represents her beloved Maguiresbridge & Devenish teams of course! Only just realised it... ;)
#35
GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8 Dark Horses
May 29, 2018, 02:17:43 PM
Maybe just the "final eight", "make the eight" or "last eight" like the Australians.
AFL do call it the AFL Final Series. GAA have never officially called it the "Super 8" etc

#36
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
May 22, 2018, 01:59:13 PM
On the Leinster Council's website Financial Statements
on Gate Receipts for 2017 - http://leinstergaa.ie/wp-content/uploads/sites/33/2018/01/Leinster-Accounts-1.pdf

3rd June Carlow vs Dublin at Portlaoise - €173,507
(Attendance: 13,238)

25th June semi final - Dublin vs Westmeath - €473,870
(Attendance: 33,370)

Leinster football final - Dublin vs Kildare - €1,413,595 
(Attendance: 66,734)



#37
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
May 22, 2018, 01:27:33 PM
Job anyone?

https://www.jobs.ie/ApplyForJob.aspx?Id=1708596

Commercial And Communications Officer – Leinster GAA

Job Description
Leinster GAA is the Provincial Council of the Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA) sports of hurling, Gaelic football, rounders and handball in the province of Leinster.

Role/Purpose:

Responsible for the development and implementation of all Public Relations (PR), Media and Commercial related strategies for Leinster GAA to cover all major events, and to raise the profile of the Provincial Council.

Candidates interested in the above role can apply by submitting an up to date cover letter and Curriculum Vitae to by 3pm on Monday, 28th May 2018.
#38
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
May 18, 2018, 07:35:17 AM
Yes blast05 commerical income is around that for Dublin, with Mayo total income 3.3 million.

https://www.killarneytoday.com/kerry-team-expenses-almost-e1m/

"With an income of €4.23 million – up from €2.68 million in 2013 – it is clear that the finance committee
of the Kerry County Board had a very busy year.

http://hoganstand.com/Dublin/article/index/279324

Overall income for the year was €4,481,063 and expenditure was €4,364,154.

So in 2013 Kerrys total income was €4.23 million
In 2017 Dublin's total income was €4.48 million

Was Kerry's income up that year because of a donation of a million in that year for the centre of excellence
or could/do Kerry actually take in more total income than Dublin each year (I would be shocked!)
Any figures for 2017 anyone?

For the change of venue if they are decided by Leinster Council could the GAA Central Council change it back if
they wanted to or what? The Central Council are part of the GAA and the Leinster Council are too but they are not each other right?!

I must read more into the GAA Towards 2034 report which says

"Provincial Councils will be replaced by new administrative hubs called Regional Councils with regions to be decided by agreed criteria such as population size and geographical proximity."

It must be a tough gig running the GAA at the top, as someone said before too many mini Republics/empires to deal with.
If the Leinster Championship is around in a few years I guess you could have Dublin playing Meath or Kildare in their newly
built 16K & 21k stadia. Seems like the GAA are fighting a war in Dublin against other sports, a lot of resources put that way eh!?
Would it be in the interest of the GAA to lose the fight in Dublin to other sports? I wonder what Ewan McKenna do if he was in charge

Agree with Ewan, game should be played at Aughrim

#39
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
May 11, 2018, 02:07:08 AM
Anyone know how much the Kerry Group deal is worth to Kerry
doesnt seem to be anything out in the public domain that i can find,
on their website they say the Kerry group donated 1 million euros
towards the centre of excellence. Friends of Kerry 700k.

A lot of talk about Leitrim only getting 20k for the jersey sponsorship.
In light of what Dublin/AIG deal is 800k a year, Mayo appear to be 537k for last year,

Anyone know Kerrys deal or others?
#40
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
May 10, 2018, 02:01:19 PM
On the financial report it says

"Loan Interest McHale Park to Croke Park for 2017 was €164,596 - 2017
for 2016 €169,095"

must be running at circa €12/€15,000 a month perhaps?

"have seen an article saying Mayo make payments of somewhere in the region of €33,000 per month over the next 29 years tho"

Under Schedule 2 it has
Sponsorship €537,445 for 2017

AIG's Dublin is around €800,000 a year.  (5mil over 4 yrs)

Still pretty good for Mayo with the sponsorship if all correct!



#41
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
May 09, 2018, 02:51:12 PM
there is some mention/figure of McHale park and interest to Croke Park in their report.

According to the Independent - 19/12/2017 article by Colm Keys

Dublin's overall income was €4,481,063 with expenditure of €4,364,154.

Looks as if Mayo are only a million behind in terms of income! wow!

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/16m-from-sponsors-offsets-rising-costs-of-dublin-teams-36420098.html

#42
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
May 09, 2018, 02:04:37 PM
Mayo seem to be going alright.

Total Income 2017 : €3,333,824

Total Expenditure 2017 : €3,130,549

Surplus for the year : €203,275

Great detail and breakdown of costs etc, if only every county board published accounts available to the public.

http://sportlomo-userupload.s3.amazonaws.com/uploaded/galleries/21_uploaded/e72a9d45499535c4e5e22e637a12d314e9330af0.pdf
http://mayogaa.com/content_page/18068/
#43
GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
May 09, 2018, 04:20:15 AM
I see Kerry are set follow Dublin, Wexford and Limerick in appointing a full time Commercial Manager
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/kerry-set-to-appoint-new-fundraising-chief-470221.html

I believe Donegal advertised for a position a while back, Tipperary report recently recommends one. Its seems to be the way things are going. Would be interesting to see how teams with differ with from those without in terms of results.
#44
Hooter Stop Clock System was trialled in Sigerson/Fitzgibbon games around 2014.
The Ladies Football has it and seems to work fine, no issues over timewasting/delays.
In the drawn 2015 Kerry vs Cork game - Just over 15 minutes spoilt — 20% of the total game-time.
The clock was due to come into the Championship for 2015 but was shot down. 
Eugene McGee of the Football Review Committee said a total of 80% wanted a clock (at inter-county level).
When it was voted down McGee called it a "ludicrous situation".

Interestingly Andy Moran and Aaron Kernan both favour a 50 metre penalty to cut out cynical play.
Moran: "It's a relevant rule to our game and you're not going to pull someone down if the ball is going to be moved up from the 13 to the halfway line, and you're a point up or a point down."
Last year's AI Final near end – timewasting/wrestling tactics and Donegal vs Mayo this year. Imagine how this could change the final last year. According to Kernan current black card offences could be replaced by moving the ball forward 50 metres, he also talks about the quick free kicks being taken and having a 5 metre zone etc.

Thoughts people?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/john-fogarty/time-taken-for-free-kicks-highlights-need-for-hooter-in-gaa-341124.html
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgee-blasts-gaas-hooter-climbdown-315023.html
http://www.the42.ie/andy-moran-50-yard-penalty-call-3925202-Mar2018/
http://www.irishnews.com/sport/opinion/2016/10/18/news/aaron-kernan-gaa-needs-to-make-sure-that-punishments-fits-the-crime-742108/
#45
Paul Earley talks about it in this great video at 20.48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1KgECGTMk4

"Its Impossible for one referee to referee that game, the game is so fast, its so dynamic, there's so much
going on around the field of play, it is impossible" - Ric Charlesworth "The Coach"

after watching his first Gaelic football match in Croke Park.

AFL wants theirs within 20-30 metres of the play of the ball at all times.

Agree with you Sligoman2