Brexit.

[Rossfan]

Sammy vs Barnier/Juncker/Tusk and 27 Governments.
Of course they'll blink

[ziggysego]

EU votes to scrap daylight savings in 2021.

https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2019/0326/1038689-eu-daylight-savings/

After Brexit, a wee night out in Monaghan will not only mean needing a green card or passport, you'll be crossing into a different zone. ffs

[seafoid]

Sammy on the lunch time news, saying unless there are significant changes to the deal they will not be backing it. So from this position even with some bungs, bribes and concessions thrown in it is hard to see how they could shift so far without something to hang it on in the new deal.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/03/26/wont-let-pm-remainer-horde-parliament-bully-us-backing-toxic/

Sammy Wilson DUP'S BREXIT SPOKESMAN
26 March 2019 • 1:53pm

extension to Article 50 would be better than this awful deal

We are now engaged in a war of attrition, as the Prime Minister seeks to achieve support for the toxic deal which she allowed the EU to impose on her and the referendum-defying Remainer horde in Parliament try to beat the truculent British public into submitting to their plan to keep us in the EU.
The latest tactic is their plan for Parliament to vote on alternatives to the Withdrawal Agreement. They describe it as Parliament taking control and the message which they are blasting out is that further resistance is futile because the Remainers are in charge. This message also suits the Prime Minister because she has used the claim that a Remain Parliament is taking control to try and bully those who want to leave the EU into supporting her flawed and damaging deal. The threat is that, if the Withdrawal Agreement is not supported, these Remainers will vote for alternatives which means no Brexit.
First of all let us be clear: the Withdrawal Agreement itself means no Brexit. It ensures that the EU has the legal power to prevent us ever leaving except on their draconian terms, which would include a Customs Union and adherence to EU regulations. Those who negotiated the agreement have been quite open about that. They insist that the terms of the deal will be the basis for any future relationship with the EU. They also make it clear that different treatment for Northern Ireland will have to continue. As Leo Varadker has said, the agreement's terms settle the arrangements required to keep the Northern Ireland border open.
We will never volunteer to Northern Ireland being torn from the rest of the UK or our economy being damaged by having trade restrictions between Northern Ireland and our main market in Great Britain. We have worked assiduously with the Government to try to get changes to the agreement and will continue to do so, but we will not vote for an unamended or unchanged version.
Secondly the prospect of the disparate views on the UK's future relationship with the EU ever being reconciled in one alternative by the rag tag Remainer factions in Parliament is quite remote. Even if one view did emerge commanding 50 per cent plus support, would it be an alternative which a Conservative Prime Minister could go and negotiate? Whoever that person might be would surely have the same problems within their party as are being faced with the Withdrawal Agreement. The truth is that this so-called solution of "Parliament taking control" will be as chaotic and face the same stalemate as exists at present, so no one should base their decision and change their mind on the basis of that threat.
There are some colleagues who I admire greatly and who have stood firmly with us in defending Northern Ireland who now take the view that the Withdrawal Agreement, even though it is a rotten deal, is better than losing Brexit. To them I say that, if the deal goes through, we have lost our right to leave the EU. If we sign up to it, we give away our right to leave to the whim and dictates of the EU. That is not Brexit.
Even if we are forced into a one-year extension, we at least would have a say on the things which affect us during that time and would have the right to unilaterally decide to leave at the end of that one-year period through the simple decision of not applying for a further extension. Surely this is a better strategy than volunteering to be locked into the prison of the withdrawal deal with the cell door key in the pocket of Michel Barnier? Besides, the fact remains that Brexit can only be lost if the Government decides to abandon pursuing negotiations to leave the EU.
Finally the announcement of the details of the no-deal Brexit arrangements by the Irish Republic at the weekend, when they confirmed that they can deal with Irish Border trade without any need for one stick of infrastructure along the border, is the final proof that the exit deal is based on one big con job. The Irish border was never an issue. It was used to secure a leaving arrangement which would dictate the restrictive terms of the UK's future relationship with the EU.
The EU cat is out of the bag. There is no justification for the Withdrawal Agreement. The only thing that those of us who want to leave the EU have to fear is being locked into a deal which only the EU can release us from. This week's indicative votes are unlikely to present a negotiable way forward so let us not allow ourselves to be worn down by the relentless efforts of those who despise the 17.4 million people who voted to throw off the shackles of Brussels.

[Franko]

DUP now saying they want a one year extension

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/03/26/brexit-latest-news-theresa-may-pressure-offer-mps-free-vote/

Or in other words they realise that they have been hung out to dry and are now veering towards a softer form of Brexit/no Brexit at all. For that is what a one year extension will entail but they are afraid to come out and say that they support Corbyn's version of it so that they can stay in government. If they don't support May's deal and the bulk of ERG sign up to it then the question is why the hell are they still propping up May's government. Which would make you wonder why they aligned themselves with ERG all along. There is still time for them to buckle though and support the deal if they can get a few last minute concessions.

What concessions are there though?  The deal is closed so there's nothing coming there.  Their one 'out' here was to do what Mogg did and say they've accepted it as the alternative was no Brexit.  But they've shut that door on themselves now so I don't see where they go from here?

Although, in saying that, it's the DUP.  Saving face is not something that they care too much about.  There's every likelihood that they could just turn up tomorrow and say the opposite to what they've said today without so much as blinking.

They really are a shower of belligerent, sectarian bastards.  It makes the nauseating sycophancy of the blueshirts at the weekend all the worse.

[johnnycool]

Sammy on the lunch time news, saying unless there are significant changes to the deal they will not be backing it. So from this position even with some bungs, bribes and concessions thrown in it is hard to see how they could shift so far without something to hang it on in the new deal.

There is nothing changed for the DUP to save face on. They need something to allow them to get their heads out of this particular noose.
Mogg and the ERG have fucked them over big style.
Typical papist.

[yellowcard]

DUP now saying they want a one year extension

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/03/26/brexit-latest-news-theresa-may-pressure-offer-mps-free-vote/

Or in other words they realise that they have been hung out to dry and are now veering towards a softer form of Brexit/no Brexit at all. For that is what a one year extension will entail but they are afraid to come out and say that they support Corbyn's version of it so that they can stay in government. If they don't support May's deal and the bulk of ERG sign up to it then the question is why the hell are they still propping up May's government. Which would make you wonder why they aligned themselves with ERG all along. There is still time for them to buckle though and support the deal if they can get a few last minute concessions.

What concessions are there though?  The deal is closed so there's nothing coming there. Their one 'out' here was to do what Mogg did and say they've accepted it as the alternative was no Brexit.  But they've shut that door on themselves now so I don't see where they go from here?

Although, in saying that, it's the DUP.  Saving face is not something that they care too much about.  There's every likelihood that they could just turn up tomorrow and say the opposite to what they've said today without so much as blinking.

They really are a shower of belligerent, sectarian b**tards.  It makes the nauseating sycophancy of the blueshirts at the weekend all the worse.

Yes of course the WA is closed, I meant concessions in the form of more money from the Tories.

Only yesterday Nigel Dodds stood up in the House of Commons and asked Theresa May directly what she needs another 2 weeks for that couldn't have been agreed up unitl now. Then we hear today that they are happy with a year's delay. They realise now that they are being isolated by ERG and are looking to reverse out of the entire process. The union trumps any form of Brexit with them and they realise that May's deal will weaken the union and are hedging their bets.   

[Jim_Murphy_74]

According to Claire Byrne last night Sammy Wilson spoke passionately to ERG last night and was greet with applause, cheering and table thumping.

Then this from Mogg today...

Also on the thread of Claire Byrne there was a councilor called Jolene Bunting speaking from the audience.  Interesting for an EU critic she struggle to pronounce "undemocratic" and "bureaucratic".  Her demeanor seem so strange I googled her.  Jesus wept, even by Northern Ireland standards this lady is a prize beaut.

/Jim.

[LeoMc]

Mogg and some of the ERG moving towards Mays deal is better than No Brexit. Whilst the DUP are holding out for no Brexit at this time. Who is more likely to be thrown under the bus?

[johnnycool]

According to Claire Byrne last night Sammy Wilson spoke passionately to ERG last night and was greet with applause, cheering and table thumping.

Then this from Mogg today...

Also on the thread of Claire Byrne there was a councilor called Jolene Bunting speaking from the audience.  Interesting for an EU critic she struggle to pronounce "undemocratic" and "bureaucratic".  Her demeanor seem so strange I googled her.  Jesus wept, even by Northern Ireland standards this lady is a prize beaut.

/Jim.

Welcome to our world /Jim

[screenexile]

According to Claire Byrne last night Sammy Wilson spoke passionately to ERG last night and was greet with applause, cheering and table thumping.

Then this from Mogg today...

Also on the thread of Claire Byrne there was a councilor called Jolene Bunting speaking from the audience.  Interesting for an EU critic she struggle to pronounce "undemocratic" and "bureaucratic".  Her demeanor seem so strange I googled her.  Jesus wept, even by Northern Ireland standards this lady is a prize beaut.

/Jim.

She is a prize clampit!!!

She got hunted from the EDL (A feat in itself) as they accused her of stealing FFS!

[seafoid]

Sammy on the lunch time news, saying unless there are significant changes to the deal they will not be backing it. So from this position even with some bungs, bribes and concessions thrown in it is hard to see how they could shift so far without something to hang it on in the new deal.

There is nothing changed for the DUP to save face on. They need something to allow them to get their heads out of this particular noose.
Mogg and the ERG have fucked them over big style.
Typical papist.

yup

May is no longer in charge of the decision
Parliament is going to do some sort of triage to see if they can come up with something
Brexit is falling apart

[Milltown Row2]

Spotlight tonight, you could not get tired of smashing Poots smirking face in

[Franko]

DUP now saying they want a one year extension

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/03/26/brexit-latest-news-theresa-may-pressure-offer-mps-free-vote/

Or in other words they realise that they have been hung out to dry and are now veering towards a softer form of Brexit/no Brexit at all. For that is what a one year extension will entail but they are afraid to come out and say that they support Corbyn's version of it so that they can stay in government. If they don't support May's deal and the bulk of ERG sign up to it then the question is why the hell are they still propping up May's government. Which would make you wonder why they aligned themselves with ERG all along. There is still time for them to buckle though and support the deal if they can get a few last minute concessions.

What concessions are there though?  The deal is closed so there's nothing coming there. Their one 'out' here was to do what Mogg did and say they've accepted it as the alternative was no Brexit.  But they've shut that door on themselves now so I don't see where they go from here?

Although, in saying that, it's the DUP.  Saving face is not something that they care too much about.  There's every likelihood that they could just turn up tomorrow and say the opposite to what they've said today without so much as blinking.

They really are a shower of belligerent, sectarian b**tards.  It makes the nauseating sycophancy of the blueshirts at the weekend all the worse.

Yes of course the WA is closed, I meant concessions in the form of more money from the Tories.

Only yesterday Nigel Dodds stood up in the House of Commons and asked Theresa May directly what she needs another 2 weeks for that couldn't have been agreed up unitl now. Then we hear today that they are happy with a year's delay. They realise now that they are being isolated by ERG and are looking to reverse out of the entire process. The union trumps any form of Brexit with them and they realise that May's deal will weaken the union and are hedging their bets.

That's what I mean though.  Yes, Theresa can promise them some more brown envelopes, but they've nothing left to pin the subsequent u-turn on.

[johnnycool]

Spotlight tonight, you could not get tired of smashing Poots smirking face in

The lad beside him wasn't long telling him that they're about to get screwed over any time soon by Tory nationalists just like they always do and that he believed that the DUP weren't doing Unionism any favours with their tack in Westminster.

Edwin didn't do himself any favours but by god Máirtín ó Muilleoir really isn't good at these debates. He can't help himself trying to get digs in about the DUP at every cut and turn when he really shouldn't allow the likes of Brexit become a Orange/Green debate. It's more fundamental than that and if he sticks to the economics and that alone then the Shinners may be better placed to get economic unionists to sway towards a UI if Brexit does go badly.
I get that the Shinners want to change the narrative that the DUP peddle that it is Sinn Fein holding up Stormont, but bide your time.

[armaghniac]

https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1110836447626645504
Guy Verhofstadt

I'm surprised to see you here, Mr. Farage. I thought you were marching 200 miles for the leave campaign? How many did you do? 2 miles! You remind me more & more of Field Marshal Haig in Blackadder, sitting safely in his office, while his people are walking in the cold & the rain.