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I wouldn't know a drug if it was sitting in front of me - am I really in the minority?

Ethan Tremblay

Quote from: tonto1888 on December 07, 2023, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AM
Quote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.

I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately.  There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me.  You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that. 

I agree in part to your Ra statement.  These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them. 


On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town.  Areas you wouldn't venture into etc. 

I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.



where would you not venture into in Lurgan other than hardcore loyalist areas if you're Catholic?
I was born here and brought up here. I lived in England for 14 years, mostly in Manchester. As much as I loved Manchester, not London though, I always missed Lurgan. Can it be rough at times? Sure can but no more or less than any other town in the North

I suppose I am making generalizations on where and where you wouldn't go, every big town has areas where trouble is more rife than others, religion not being a factor.
I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

tonto1888

Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 12:16:52 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 07, 2023, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AM
Quote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.

I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately.  There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me.  You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that. 

I agree in part to your Ra statement.  These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them. 


On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town.  Areas you wouldn't venture into etc. 

I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.



where would you not venture into in Lurgan other than hardcore loyalist areas if you're Catholic?
I was born here and brought up here. I lived in England for 14 years, mostly in Manchester. As much as I loved Manchester, not London though, I always missed Lurgan. Can it be rough at times? Sure can but no more or less than any other town in the North

I suppose I am making generalizations on where and where you wouldn't go, every big town has areas where trouble is more rife than others, religion not being a factor.

there is generally nowhere in Lurgan I wouldnt go in to other than parts of mourneview for obvious reasons

JimStynes

Quote from: tonto1888 on December 07, 2023, 01:09:16 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 12:16:52 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 07, 2023, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AM
Quote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.

I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately.  There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me.  You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that. 

I agree in part to your Ra statement.  These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them. 


On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town.  Areas you wouldn't venture into etc. 

I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.



where would you not venture into in Lurgan other than hardcore loyalist areas if you're Catholic?
I was born here and brought up here. I lived in England for 14 years, mostly in Manchester. As much as I loved Manchester, not London though, I always missed Lurgan. Can it be rough at times? Sure can but no more or less than any other town in the North

I suppose I am making generalizations on where and where you wouldn't go, every big town has areas where trouble is more rife than others, religion not being a factor.

there is generally nowhere in Lurgan I wouldnt go in to other than parts of mourneview for obvious reasons


Around Shankill is a shit hole. Those flats in Taghnevan has a few bad boys in them too! Complete kip.
Up around the Shore Road and Tannaghmore school etc is a nice place.

Rois

I'm a newbie to the place.

I walk through Kilwilkie regularly (live up near the old St Michael's school) and never once felt unsafe.  I walked down to Victoria Street yesterday to get my car fixed - it is a wee bit different and I wouldn't want to be walking down there on my own late at night.
 

lurganblue

Quote from: JimStynes on December 07, 2023, 01:18:42 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 07, 2023, 01:09:16 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 12:16:52 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 07, 2023, 11:55:21 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AM
Quote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.

I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately.  There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me.  You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that. 

I agree in part to your Ra statement.  These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them. 


On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town.  Areas you wouldn't venture into etc. 

I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.



where would you not venture into in Lurgan other than hardcore loyalist areas if you're Catholic?
I was born here and brought up here. I lived in England for 14 years, mostly in Manchester. As much as I loved Manchester, not London though, I always missed Lurgan. Can it be rough at times? Sure can but no more or less than any other town in the North

I suppose I am making generalizations on where and where you wouldn't go, every big town has areas where trouble is more rife than others, religion not being a factor.

there is generally nowhere in Lurgan I wouldnt go in to other than parts of mourneview for obvious reasons


Around Shankill is a shit hole. Those flats in Taghnevan has a few bad boys in them too! Complete kip.
Up around the Shore Road and Tannaghmore school etc is a nice place.

Nonsense.  I walk round it at night and have done all of my life; never felt unsafe.

There is a dark underbelly in Lurgan that is not confined to one particular area.  The vast majority of residents are great people.  I'd say the same things could be said about many large towns.

Eire90

is there a nightclub or big pub scene in lurgan is that where the fights are.

Armagh18

Quote from: general_lee on December 07, 2023, 09:44:06 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 06, 2023, 09:06:49 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 06, 2023, 06:38:40 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on December 06, 2023, 06:13:09 PMAnyone know if there was a motive or paramilitary involvement



strabane seems peaceful compared to lurgan



does lurgan have a lot of drugs.
No.
Probably is.
Yes.

Lurgan has no more drugs than any other town ffs
I'll eat my hat if at least one of the two males arrested isn't a drug dealer
Was there a second male? Seen there was a man and 2 women arrested

Eire90

Is the murder drug related

johnnycool

Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AM
Quote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.

I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately.  There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me.  You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that. 

I agree in part to your Ra statement.  These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them. 


On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town.  Areas you wouldn't venture into etc. 

I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.



One of our camogs is an addiction nurse based in Belfast and I'd got talking to her recently at a play park of all places and she was telling me cocaine is absolutely rife in the North.
It's the drug of choice for a lot of young ones on a night out as you don't put on weight with it (boys and girls she says) and there's no hangover the next day so you can go about your business as normal...

Scary considering what shit they put into it.

Armagh18

Quote from: johnnycool on December 07, 2023, 04:33:39 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AM
Quote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.

I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately.  There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me.  You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that. 

I agree in part to your Ra statement.  These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them. 


On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town.  Areas you wouldn't venture into etc. 

I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.



One of our camogs is an addiction nurse based in Belfast and I'd got talking to her recently at a play park of all places and she was telling me cocaine is absolutely rife in the North.
It's the drug of choice for a lot of young ones on a night out as you don't put on weight with it (boys and girls she says) and there's no hangover the next day so you can go about your business as normal...

Scary considering what shit they put into it.

Been discussed on here plenty of times before. Probably near be in a minority now if you aren't on coke. Plenty of wasters spending their days smoking grass too. Few boys separated from their kneecaps would go a long way to helping.

brokencrossbar1

Lurgan is no different than most urban areas, apart from the fact it's full of Spades!  Only kidding of course. Through football and work would have been in Lurgan many times. Footballers have the typical North Armagh thing going on but that's just a bit of craic.

As for drugs they are everywhere, absolutely everywhere. Would be out regular enough at gigs and events and while drink is always a plenty there's a serious amount of stuff being sniffed. Thankfully not in my direct circle but I was beside a table of ones the other night,  the 'lovely people' and there was some amount of toing and froing to the toilets!

tonto1888


Eamonnca1

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 07, 2023, 04:47:39 PMLurgan is no different than most urban areas, apart from the fact it's full of Spades!  Only kidding of course. Through football and work would have been in Lurgan many times. Footballers have the typical North Armagh thing going on but that's just a bit of craic.

As for drugs they are everywhere, absolutely everywhere. Would be out regular enough at gigs and events and while drink is always a plenty there's a serious amount of stuff being sniffed. Thankfully not in my direct circle but I was beside a table of ones the other night,  the 'lovely people' and there was some amount of toing and froing to the toilets!

I remember when you'd wear a tie to go to the Arena, taking the bus down from Lurgan. There were two buses would go from the Cellar Lounge every Saturday night. Went back a few years later and it was all shirtless lads blowing whistles, open drug dealing in the car park outside. A mate went to the bar and asked for a bottle of beer and the bar girl looked at him like he wasn't a bit wise. It was almost exclusively bottled water they were selling for the Ecstasy crowd.

general_lee

Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2023, 04:04:07 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 07, 2023, 09:44:06 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 06, 2023, 09:06:49 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 06, 2023, 06:38:40 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on December 06, 2023, 06:13:09 PMAnyone know if there was a motive or paramilitary involvement



strabane seems peaceful compared to lurgan



does lurgan have a lot of drugs.
No.
Probably is.
Yes.

Lurgan has no more drugs than any other town ffs
I'll eat my hat if at least one of the two males arrested isn't a drug dealer
Was there a second male? Seen there was a man and 2 women arrested
Second 31 year old arrested. Two women charged with assisting an offender. I've heard two names regarding the males and they're both tramps.