Lurgan

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Eire90

Anyone know if there was a motive or paramilitary involvement



strabane seems peaceful compared to lurgan



does lurgan have a lot of drugs.

Armagh18

Quote from: Eire90 on December 06, 2023, 06:13:09 PMAnyone know if there was a motive or paramilitary involvement



strabane seems peaceful compared to lurgan



does lurgan have a lot of drugs.
No.
Probably is.
Yes.

nrico2006

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I grew up in Strabane and live in Lurgan now. Places are polar opposites when it comes to murder and the like.

Strabane, Derry and Letterkenny were like the wild west on weekends. Nothing bad weapon wise, just loads of fights constantly. I actually noticed Lurgan and the like as being quieter on that front, rarely saw fights or rows.
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imtommygunn

I have only been in lurgan once in my life but know plenty from it. It always had a bad rep for fighting at the weekends. Only worse place rep wise would be Derry I would say. I would know a right few from Derry and very few of them wouldn't have got a serious beating at one stage or another growing up. So lurgan has a rep but so do other places.

Armagh18

Lot of towns like that tbh. Newry, Cookstown, Armagh all be bad enough at times.

tonto1888

Quote from: Armagh18 on December 06, 2023, 06:38:40 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on December 06, 2023, 06:13:09 PMAnyone know if there was a motive or paramilitary involvement



strabane seems peaceful compared to lurgan



does lurgan have a lot of drugs.
No.
Probably is.
Yes.

Lurgan has no more drugs than any other town ffs

Armagh18

Quote from: tonto1888 on December 06, 2023, 09:06:49 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 06, 2023, 06:38:40 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on December 06, 2023, 06:13:09 PMAnyone know if there was a motive or paramilitary involvement



strabane seems peaceful compared to lurgan



does lurgan have a lot of drugs.
No.
Probably is.
Yes.

Lurgan has no more drugs than any other town ffs
Does Lurgan have a lot of drugs. Answer is certainly yes. Most decent sized towns full of drugs.

An Watcher

Quote from: nrico2006 on December 06, 2023, 08:02:31 PMI grew up in Strabane and live in Lurgan now. Places are polar opposites when it comes to murder and the like.

Strabane, Derry and Letterkenny were like the wild west on weekends. Nothing bad weapon wise, just loads of fights constantly. I actually noticed Lurgan and the like as being quieter on that front, rarely saw fights or rows.

The only thing about letterkenny was that the gardai took no shit so you stepped out of line there good luck to you

general_lee

Quote from: tonto1888 on December 06, 2023, 09:06:49 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 06, 2023, 06:38:40 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on December 06, 2023, 06:13:09 PMAnyone know if there was a motive or paramilitary involvement



strabane seems peaceful compared to lurgan



does lurgan have a lot of drugs.
No.
Probably is.
Yes.

Lurgan has no more drugs than any other town ffs
I'll eat my hat if at least one of the two males arrested isn't a drug dealer

quit yo jibbajabba

How come two women have been charged for assisting but nobody for murder. Is it a case of two boys each saying he did it ..

illdecide

Been a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.
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Aaron Boone

That kinda reads like the Lurgan drug problem is the fault of the Guards.

Ethan Tremblay

Quote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.

I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately.  There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me.  You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that. 

I agree in part to your Ra statement.  These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them. 


On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town.  Areas you wouldn't venture into etc. 

I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.

I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

tonto1888

Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AM
Quote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.

I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately.  There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me.  You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that. 

I agree in part to your Ra statement.  These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them. 


On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town.  Areas you wouldn't venture into etc. 

I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.



where would you not venture into in Lurgan other than hardcore loyalist areas if you're Catholic?
I was born here and brought up here. I lived in England for 14 years, mostly in Manchester. As much as I loved Manchester, not London though, I always missed Lurgan. Can it be rough at times? Sure can but no more or less than any other town in the North

JohnDenver

Quote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.

Unfortunately I believe this isn't confined to towns or cities, it's very much in the rural communities too. I'd be like yourself and green to it all when you hear about such and such and you'd be taken aback.

Thankfully something i've never got involved in, bad enough dealing with alcohol and it's a legalised "drug"!