I have never been there but my impression of Lurgan gained from this site was that it is a cesspit, a kip, a home to cider drinking Armagh ASBOs and people who throw stones at trains. But the Torygraph is the epitome of middle class smugness ....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/uk/revealed-desirable-places-live-uk/
Quote from: seafoid on March 02, 2017, 01:42:05 PM
a cesspit, a kip, a home to cider drinking Armagh ASBOs and people who throw stones at trains.
And these are a few of my favourite things....
Quote from: seafoid on March 02, 2017, 01:42:05 PM
I have never been there but my impression of Lurgan gained from this site was that it is a cesspit, a kip, a home to cider drinking Armagh ASBOs and people who throw stones at trains. But the Torygraph is the epitome of middle class smugness ....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/uk/revealed-desirable-places-live-uk/
::) ::)
Quote from: seafoid on March 02, 2017, 01:42:05 PM
I have never been there but my impression of Lurgan gained from this site was that it is a cesspit, a kip, a home to cider drinking Armagh ASBOs and people who throw stones at trains.
Would that not apply to pretty much everywhere up there?
Quote from: laoislad on March 02, 2017, 03:27:02 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 02, 2017, 01:42:05 PM
I have never been there but my impression of Lurgan gained from this site was that it is a cesspit, a kip, a home to cider drinking Armagh ASBOs and people who throw stones at trains.
Would that not apply to pretty much everywhere up there?
No. There are no trains in Tyrone.
Quote from: armaghniac on March 02, 2017, 03:45:26 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 02, 2017, 03:27:02 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 02, 2017, 01:42:05 PM
I have never been there but my impression of Lurgan gained from this site was that it is a cesspit, a kip, a home to cider drinking Armagh ASBOs and people who throw stones at trains.
Would that not apply to pretty much everywhere up there?
No. There are no trains in Tyrone.
If there were they could run them on the Red
Quote from: illdecide on March 02, 2017, 03:49:33 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 02, 2017, 03:45:26 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 02, 2017, 03:27:02 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 02, 2017, 01:42:05 PM
I have never been there but my impression of Lurgan gained from this site was that it is a cesspit, a kip, a home to cider drinking Armagh ASBOs and people who throw stones at trains.
Would that not apply to pretty much everywhere up there?
No. There are no trains in Tyrone.
If there were they could run them on the Red
Red, White and Choo-Choo.
Quote from: seafoid on March 02, 2017, 01:42:05 PM
I have never been there but my impression of Lurgan gained from this site was that it is a cesspit, a kip, a home to cider drinking Armagh ASBOs and people who throw stones at trains. But the Torygraph is the epitome of middle class smugness ....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/uk/revealed-desirable-places-live-uk/
How very dare you!
If you're a roundabout there's no better place to be than Craigavon and Lurgan because there's a million of the bastards!!!!
In its favour:
- Nice parks
- Good schools
- Decent employment opportunities, still has a bit of industry around
- Nice places to live
- Thriving GAA scene (5 football and 1 hurling club)
- Plenty of other sport participation (2 or 3 cycling clubs, which do a long-running collective Sunday ride, a handful of soccer clubs etc.)
- Good cafes, restaurants and pubs
- Interesting history and some nice looking buildings
Against:
- Streets turn into the wild west around midnight at weekends, with no cops in sight
- Litter
- Public drunkenness
- Outdoor underage drinking dens dotted around the place in the hedges, which become breeding grounds for anti-social behaviour
- Sectarian segregation right down the middle
It would do people the power of good to take more notice of the positive aspects of their town and doing something constructive about the negative, instead of griping about the negative and ignoring the positive. You could say just about any town is a "kip" if you looked hard enough for bad things.
Quote from: screenexile on March 02, 2017, 04:51:33 PM
If you're a roundabout there's no better place to be than Craigavon and Lurgan because there's a million of the b**tards!!!!
My brother and his mates used to love taking the motorbikes out on weekends and ripping and tearing up and down the main Lurgan-Portadown road. No better place to practice getting your knee down on the road than on the roundabouts!
2nd largest Park in Ireland only behind Phoenix Park in Dublin, Oxford Island Nature Reserve, Tannagmore Gardens, 2 Golf courses, Ski slope and Kilwilkie ;)
Quote from: illdecide on March 03, 2017, 10:04:00 AM
2nd largest Park in Ireland only behind Phoenix Park in Dublin, Oxford Island Nature Reserve, Tannagmore Gardens, 2 Golf courses, Ski slope and Kilwilkie ;)
Any visitor to Lurgan can only get a true picture of the town by trying to travel down North Street and then around Kilwilkie. Or visit the only statue in the town to a greyhound.
The town has probably the worst traffic management of any town outside the greater Belfast area. The two sets of railway gates closing multiple times throughout the day sets up queues in every direction as all traffic is halted until the train sets down and collects its passengers in the station. It would be bad enough to close the gates as a train passes through but the station is beside the street and the road can be closed for quite a while each time.
Visitors should also be set the task of finding the invisible line across the middle of the town which strictly divides the Catholic and Protestant parts of the town.
An allegory of the town is the new bypass of the town centre which should have been opened months ago but had to be kept closed because they lost the plans to the services buried in the road and it couldn't be handed over for use until it was dug up again to map these services!
Typical Trump getting things arse about face!
https://www.facebook.com/537640956446144/videos/589298744613698/
You see this site as well? Pretty funny. http://www.facebook.com/thelurganliar
Last Sunday I was reading the problem page in the Sunday World.
There was a letter from someone which was signed "Depressed, from Lurgan" and I thought well, yes, you would be if you live in Lurgan.
Lurgan is no worse than any other similarly sized town in Northern Ireland, which would all be rife with underage drinking etc.
The train station craic is a joke, they close the barriers a lifetime before the train even approaches and as mentioned, they remain closed a lot of the time when they pass until passengers get off/on and the train returns beyond the barrier point.
But it definitely is arguably the best place in the Country for parks etc for kids. Lurgan Park, Oxford Island, Tannaghmore Gardens and the Lakes are all brilliant places to take the children.
You need to know the right roads to avoid the railway lines ;). Anyway no railway lines in my part of the town and a 5 min walk to the GAA club...Class
Quote from: illdecide on March 03, 2017, 02:13:37 PM
You need to know the right roads to avoid the railway lines ;). Anyway no railway lines in my part of the town and a 5 min walk to the GAA club...Class
Shiny bastard!
Lurgan is a great town in comparison to the likes of Portadown, Lisburn, Antrim etc. It's a sports mad town but I agree the traffic is a joke at times. The usual scumbags at weekends but no more than any other place. The best footballers come from just outside the town in Aghagallon.
Lurgan renowned for Master Mc Grath and Tidsy Mc Kerr,not much else
Quote from: Take Your Points on March 03, 2017, 10:15:04 AM
Visitors should also be set the task of finding the invisible line across the middle of the town which strictly divides the Catholic and Protestant parts of the town.
The old public toilet block (long since demolished, thankfully) were just inside the Taig zone. Or so they say. I always thought of Wellworth's (now Heaton's) as the boundary myself.
Quote from: T Fearon on March 03, 2017, 06:11:41 PM
Lurgan renowned for Master Mc Grath and Tidsy Mc Kerr,not much else
The wikipedia page shows a list of notable people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurgan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurgan)
Back when I had a lot of time on my hands I did a bit of research and got that article up to snuff and certified as a Good Article. Could use a bit of a cleanup since then.
Lurgan and Portadown have been largely destroyed commercially the growth of Rushmere in central Craigavon.Have fond memories of good times in both towns
Rushmere's a monstrosity. No character, just acres of free parking while drivers in the towns have to pay for the car parks. Parking on the main street is free while parking in the (slightly) out-of-the-way car parks is paid, which is the opposite of what it should be. You'd think the more convenient parking would cost more. Mental.
I remember the no warning bomb outside the old Celtic supporters club,in Edward St,which was fortunately spotted by a punter just in time,back in the mid 70s.
Quote from: T Fearon on March 03, 2017, 06:11:41 PM
Lurgan renowned for Master Mc Grath and Tidsy Mc Kerr,not much else
Don't forget Neil Lennon!
Quote from: JimStynes on March 03, 2017, 06:01:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 03, 2017, 02:13:37 PM
You need to know the right roads to avoid the railway lines ;). Anyway no railway lines in my part of the town and a 5 min walk to the GAA club...Class
Shiny b**tard!
Lurgan is a great town in comparison to the likes of Portadown, Lisburn, Antrim etc. It's a sports mad town but I agree the traffic is a joke at times. The usual scumbags at weekends but no more than any other place. The best footballers come from just outside the town in Aghagallon.
Great compared to Portadown Lisburn etc.!!
Thats some recommendation
Quote from: T Fearon on March 04, 2017, 07:08:44 AM
I remember the no warning bomb outside the old Celtic supporters club,in Edward St,which was fortunately spotted by a punter just in time,back in the mid 70s.
I once heard the story go that someone scored in the match, thus f*cking up someones bet. Said fellow walked out of the bar in a huff/rage only to see a car parked right up at the front of the door, blocking it. Everyone quickly escaped out the back before the bomb went off.
Do any or many Nationalists / Republicans support Glenavon?
Quote from: michaelg on March 04, 2017, 08:53:50 AM
Do any or many Nationalists / Republicans support Glenavon?
i know a few who do but not many. i know a lot more who support either Lurgan Celtic or Cliftonville
Quote from: Avondhu star on March 04, 2017, 08:46:16 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 03, 2017, 06:01:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 03, 2017, 02:13:37 PM
You need to know the right roads to avoid the railway lines ;). Anyway no railway lines in my part of the town and a 5 min walk to the GAA club...Class
Shiny b**tard!
Lurgan is a great town in comparison to the likes of Portadown, Lisburn, Antrim etc. It's a sports mad town but I agree the traffic is a joke at times. The usual scumbags at weekends but no more than any other place. The best footballers come from just outside the town in Aghagallon.
Great compared to Portadown Lisburn etc.!!
Thats some recommendation
I know! But people are making it out that it is the biggest shit hole about when in fact it is no where near as bad as lots of places in the north.
Quote from: T Fearon on March 03, 2017, 06:11:41 PM
Lurgan renowned for Master Mc Grath and Tidsy Mc Kerr,not much else
Strange such a die hard Armagh fan doesn't mention Diarmuid Marseden, or do members of the (only) senior all Ireland wining team not count these days?
Quote from: tyroneman on March 04, 2017, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on March 03, 2017, 06:11:41 PM
Lurgan renowned for Master Mc Grath and Tidsy Mc Kerr,not much else
Strange such a die hard Armagh fan doesn't mention Diarmuid Marseden, or do members of the (only) senior all Ireland wining team not count these days?
Or B O'Hagan
Or Colm McKinstry, Jimmy Smyth and close by Paddy Moriarty and Brian McAlinden to name a few.
Neil Lennon ?
Er my tongue was slightly in cheek.
Quote from: T Fearon on March 04, 2017, 02:28:06 PM
Er my tongue was slightly in cheek.
Which makes a pleasant change from having your foot there.
By some misfortune, I was born in Lurgan!
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on March 04, 2017, 04:22:49 PM
By some misfortune, I was born in Lurgan!
As bad as that was, a huge number of us of a particular age were born in Portadown in the Carleton Maternity Hospital on Church Street regardless of where our parents were living.
A bit like no children have been born in Tyrone for at least 15 years.
Quote from: hardstation on March 04, 2017, 05:19:26 PM
Quote from: Take Your Points on March 04, 2017, 05:01:37 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on March 04, 2017, 04:22:49 PM
By some misfortune, I was born in Lurgan!
As bad as that was, a huge number of us of a particular age were born in Portadown in the Carleton Maternity Hospital on Church Street regardless of where our parents were living.
A bit like no children have been born in Tyrone for at least 15 years.
Really? None? I find that hard to believe.
Most of them born in Armagh...lol (Craigavon Hospital). Tyrone don't have Hospitals (well no A&E and obviously Maternity)
Lurgan born and bred and I loved growing up in the place. I love getting home too. Yeah it has its problems - railway gates - but overall it's a great town. I have many many fabulous memories.
Why's the ground always wet in Lurgan?
Why has Lurgan two cycling clubs? Is one more leisurely than the other?
Quote from: illdecide on March 04, 2017, 09:09:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 04, 2017, 05:19:26 PM
Quote from: Take Your Points on March 04, 2017, 05:01:37 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on March 04, 2017, 04:22:49 PM
By some misfortune, I was born in Lurgan!
As bad as that was, a huge number of us of a particular age were born in Portadown in the Carleton Maternity Hospital on Church Street regardless of where our parents were living.
A bit like no children have been born in Tyrone for at least 15 years.
Really? None? I find that hard to believe.
Most of them born in Armagh...lol (Craigavon Hospital). Tyrone don't have Hospitals (well no A&E and obviously Maternity)
Thanks to SF minister moving the only acute hospital and maternity unit to Enniskillen to buy votes in that constituency and now SWAH withers away due to lack of use (Tyrone children are born in Craigavon and Derry) and being unable to recruit consultants and doctors. If you have any emergency they can't treat it but will patch you up and then send you to Belfast, Craigavon or Derry. Most people now go direct to Craigavon or Altnagelvin, despite the SF failure to deliver the A5 to take you safely and quickly in either direction. Thanks SF, it hasn't affected your vote in West Tyrone.
Quote from: hardstation on March 04, 2017, 09:15:08 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 04, 2017, 09:09:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 04, 2017, 05:19:26 PM
Quote from: Take Your Points on March 04, 2017, 05:01:37 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on March 04, 2017, 04:22:49 PM
By some misfortune, I was born in Lurgan!
As bad as that was, a huge number of us of a particular age were born in Portadown in the Carleton Maternity Hospital on Church Street regardless of where our parents were living.
A bit like no children have been born in Tyrone for at least 15 years.
Really? None? I find that hard to believe.
Most of them born in Armagh...lol (Craigavon Hospital). Tyrone don't have Hospitals (well no A&E and obviously Maternity)
Probably a pile born at home though. Or in a barn.
Recently a wee one was born on the roadside in Tyrone, on the way to Derry
Smart move by the newborn I reckon.
Quote from: Orior on March 05, 2017, 10:58:56 AM
Why has Lurgan two cycling clubs? Is one more leisurely than the other?
Good old sporting rivalry. I was in Clann Eireann myself, they've never really gone away. Lurgan Road Club was a big force in the 80s, but I don't know if there's anything left of them now. Last I saw of it was a handful of the older fellas on the Sunday run. I think the Apollo crowd came from a split in the Road Club, last I heard they're still around. They got into mountain biking when it started getting popular in the 90s, and I think they recently started a youth MTB wing that rakes around the lakes in the evenings. Clann Eireann still going reasonably strong too. They were never into mountain biking when I was around, they were pure into the road racing. Always was a good healthy rivalry within the club during the Wednesday night 10 series and the Wednesday night handicapped road race series. The midweek races were good crack. Shorter than an open race, and the dynamics of the handicap always made it interesting.
Pure shitehole of a place plain and simple😂😉
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 06, 2017, 01:17:10 PM
Pure shitehole of a place plain and simple😂😉
I agree with you BC, that top end of the town where all them Prods live is a pure shit hole...
Never been there. So can't really comment.
Quote from: ziggysego on March 06, 2017, 06:49:28 PM
Never been there. So can't really comment.
This is GAABoard General Discussion, you don't have to know anything about the topic!
Quote from: armaghniac on March 06, 2017, 07:23:03 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on March 06, 2017, 06:49:28 PM
Never been there. So can't really comment.
This is GAABoard General Discussion, you don't have to know anything about the topic!
Noticed that from some of the contributions some have made in other topics. ;)
Caffola's marshmallow and ice cream is unreal.
I remember early on in my soccer career,with the famous Lurgan Inter,playing a hastily arranged friendly against what you might describe as a hastily put together team from Teghnevan in the mid 70s one Sunday.
The guy marking me asked the referee,the late Gabby Headley,how long was left.Gabby said "20 minutes" to which my marker said "Ah for f..k sake,the Forresters will be closed!" 😂😂😂😂
Quote from: T Fearon on March 06, 2017, 09:32:53 PM
I remember early on in my soccer career,with the famous Lurgan Inter,playing a hastily arranged friendly against what you might describe as a hastily put together team from Teghnevan in the mid 70s one Sunday.
The guy marking me asked the referee,the late Gabby Headley,how long was left.Gabby said "20 minutes" to which my marker said "Ah for f..k sake,the Forresters will be closed!" 😂😂😂😂
Nah, he was more concerned about having to listen to another 20 minutes of incessant talk about Spurs, Celtic, Armagh, Tir Na nOg and free tickets lol.
Even that might be tolerable, but the explanation of being "Northern" Irish would have been worse.
Quote from: T Fearon on March 06, 2017, 09:32:53 PM
I remember early on in my soccer career,with the famous Lurgan Inter,playing a hastily arranged friendly against what you might describe as a hastily put together team from Teghnevan in the mid 70s one Sunday.
The guy marking me asked the referee,the late Gabby Headley,how long was left.Gabby said "20 minutes" to which my marker said "Ah for f..k sake,the Forresters will be closed!" 😂😂😂😂
Surely the "Fosters" is never closed! (exception being between the hours of about 3am and 7am)
Quote from: lurganblue on March 06, 2017, 09:21:45 PM
Caffola's marshmallow and ice cream is unreal.
Big or the wee caffola's for ice cream? That's the big question!!
Quote from: JimStynes on March 07, 2017, 12:56:39 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 06, 2017, 09:21:45 PM
Caffola's marshmallow and ice cream is unreal.
Big or the wee caffola's for ice cream? That's the big question!!
Worked down that part of the world for a while and lord, a decent chip was hard to come by.
The "Borger" Stop chips were a soapy mush and the albino lad, Paul who'd the van outside the primary schools were decent, but not great.
Quote from: johnneycool on March 07, 2017, 02:06:44 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 07, 2017, 12:56:39 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 06, 2017, 09:21:45 PM
Caffola's marshmallow and ice cream is unreal.
Big or the wee caffola's for ice cream? That's the big question!!
Worked down that part of the world for a while and lord, a decent chip was hard to come by.
The "Borger" Stop chips were a soapy mush and the albino lad, Paul who'd the van outside the primary schools were decent, but not great.
I heard someone say there are good cafes in Lurgan but I would say the opposite was true. There is the like of Caffola's and a few others that only really serve chip based meals, and none of them are great. No real cafes where you can get nice stew, lasagnes, Spaghetti Bolognese etc.
don't forget the thai sweet chilli chicken!! any good spot has to have it lol
good food in lurgan..... I've heard it all!
Quote from: JimStynes on March 07, 2017, 12:56:39 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 06, 2017, 09:21:45 PM
Caffola's marshmallow and ice cream is unreal.
Big or the wee caffola's for ice cream? That's the big question!!
I'm a wee caffola's man myself but wouldnt be disappointed with either
Tell ye what lads, not too many other towns have a dedicated thread on the GAA Board.
I'm taking that as a compliment!
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 07, 2017, 02:16:04 PM
I heard someone say there are good cafes in Lurgan but I would say the opposite was true. There is the like of Caffola's and a few others that only really serve chip based meals, and none of them are great. No real cafes where you can get nice stew, lasagnes, Spaghetti Bolognese etc.
Palomo's cafe is a good spot.
Remember the Cosy Corner eating house that Francie McAlinden used to run? Later he got into the funeral business. They reckon he should have called it "cosy coffins!"
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 07, 2017, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 07, 2017, 02:16:04 PM
I heard someone say there are good cafes in Lurgan but I would say the opposite was true. There is the like of Caffola's and a few others that only really serve chip based meals, and none of them are great. No real cafes where you can get nice stew, lasagnes, Spaghetti Bolognese etc.
Palomo's cafe is a good spot.
Remember the Cosy Corner eating house that Francie McAlinden used to run? Later he got into the funeral business. They reckon he should have called it "cosy coffins!"
Cafe vibe and unch aren't too bad either. The new place Cajan is quite good too if you're looking for something healthy. Someone said there are no good chippys, try smugglers! Very nice and good portions. I've never really tried any of the food places in the other end of town sort from maloneys.
Lurgan has plenty of nice cafes if you are after a decent breakfast, lunch or just a coffee - I am thinking of the likes of Palomo, Vibe, Kitchen, Coopers, New Haven to name a few. Also there are a few good spots for a Sunday lunch like The Cellar, Vintage, Woodville and the Gold Club all of which are quite reasonable. What is missing is a good restaurant for an evening meal - there area few close by in Moira and Portadown has Zio's which is second to none, so there might not be enough of a market to keep a good restaurant unfortunately. Being so close to Belfast may not help either.
For all the negative press Lurgan gets, I think it's a great town! Obviously there is an issue with public drunkenness late in the weekend - but what town in Ireland doesn't? I don't go out as often as I used to but it was unusual to see any fighting in Lurgan on a night out - this might have changed now. Would always have been more chance of trouble in the likes of Newry & Cookstown - probably because there would have been buses from other towns. When you mix a load of young fellas from different towns in the one place there can always be trouble so that is in no way a criticism of Cookstown & Newry!
The good points about the town i.e. the abundance of GAA & other sporting activities available are well covered here. Lurgan Park is second to none also.
Visited the Lord Lurgan Park last Sunday around lunchtime to reminisce about football playing days.Cop car in side street where I parked,and a second one joined it.Walked up into the park,wer bald man walking a greyhound says to me "is that the cops down there?" That sums Lurgan upJust not normal!
What about the Silverwood Hotel? Anyone remember it?
Quote from: Take Your Points on March 08, 2017, 09:46:23 AM
What about the Silverwood Hotel? Anyone remember it?
do surely. late night pints after the Ashburn
Topaz nite club.
I remember getting a big carry-out there one night but they'd no carrier bags to put it in so I told them to just pour it into two buckets.
Quote from: LurganHoop on March 08, 2017, 08:36:59 AM
Lurgan has plenty of nice cafes if you are after a decent breakfast, lunch or just a coffee - I am thinking of the likes of Palomo, Vibe, Kitchen, Coopers, New Haven to name a few. Also there are a few good spots for a Sunday lunch like The Cellar, Vintage, Woodville and the Gold Club all of which are quite reasonable. What is missing is a good restaurant for an evening meal - there area few close by in Moira and Portadown has Zio's which is second to none, so there might not be enough of a market to keep a good restaurant unfortunately. Being so close to Belfast may not help either.
For all the negative press Lurgan gets, I think it's a great town! Obviously there is an issue with public drunkenness late in the weekend - but what town in Ireland doesn't? I don't go out as often as I used to but it was unusual to see any fighting in Lurgan on a night out - this might have changed now. Would always have been more chance of trouble in the likes of Newry & Cookstown - probably because there would have been buses from other towns. When you mix a load of young fellas from different towns in the one place there can always be trouble so that is in no way a criticism of Cookstown & Newry!
The good points about the town i.e. the abundance of GAA & other sporting activities available are well covered here. Lurgan Park is second to none also.
The one thing that is different in Lurgan on a night out is the lack of fights. In Strabane, Derry or Letterkenny all that you see on anight iout are fights in pubs/clubs and outside too. Lurgan is great in comparison.
So there you have it...Lurgan is top notch ;)
Quote from: The Gs Man on March 08, 2017, 11:00:07 AM
Topaz nite club.
I remember getting a big carry-out there one night but they'd no carrier bags to put it in so I told them to just pour it into two buckets.
It was the divil's job getting home from that place. People would get fed up with the lack of taxis and abuse the taxi drivers that did show up. So the taxi drivers hated going to the place. We just walked up the town for taxis when we were done. They even put a bus on at one point but I'd hate to be the man driving it.
Quote from: JimStynes on March 07, 2017, 07:35:43 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on March 07, 2017, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 07, 2017, 02:16:04 PM
I heard someone say there are good cafes in Lurgan but I would say the opposite was true. There is the like of Caffola's and a few others that only really serve chip based meals, and none of them are great. No real cafes where you can get nice stew, lasagnes, Spaghetti Bolognese etc.
Palomo's cafe is a good spot.
Remember the Cosy Corner eating house that Francie McAlinden used to run? Later he got into the funeral business. They reckon he should have called it "cosy coffins!"
Cafe vibe and unch aren't too bad either. The new place Cajan is quite good too if you're looking for something healthy. Someone said there are no good chippys, try smugglers! Very nice and good portions. I've never really tried any of the food places in the other end of town sort from maloneys.
Unch is closed now. Kitchen is the best spot now in the town for feeds.
As for the ice cream, it is definitely the wee Cafollas. Wee Cafollas is better than the big for everything in fact, and the prices reflect that.
You would be a bit of a local celebrity about town Don!
Locka locka loo.
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/shop-takes-2000-orders-for-buckfast-easter-egg-package-1-7879070
Quote from: seafoid on March 22, 2017, 01:25:36 PM
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/shop-takes-2000-orders-for-buckfast-easter-egg-package-1-7879070
Yes we take our Buckfast very seriously.
Quote from: lurganblue on March 22, 2017, 04:21:09 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 22, 2017, 01:25:36 PM
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/shop-takes-2000-orders-for-buckfast-easter-egg-package-1-7879070
Yes we take our Buckfast very seriously.
And yez wonder why ye haven't won a championship in years?😂
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 22, 2017, 04:22:55 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 22, 2017, 04:21:09 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 22, 2017, 01:25:36 PM
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/shop-takes-2000-orders-for-buckfast-easter-egg-package-1-7879070
Yes we take our Buckfast very seriously.
And yez wonder why ye haven't won a championship in years?😂
Bucky was/is taken just as seriously in Armagh. Didn't stop the Ogs winning a championship!
Interesting fact: there's a place beside Lurgan called the Munchies.
Quote from: Orior on March 22, 2017, 08:00:30 PM
Interesting fact: there's a place beside Lurgan called the Munchies.
Spelt Montiaghs though.
On the Bucky, Derek is going to have some bother when his 2000 punters realise there's not actually any in the Easter egg.
I phoned an estate agent to enquire about a property in Lurgan...I'm actually considering moving to this fine place!
Quote from: Rois on March 22, 2017, 08:50:55 PM
I phoned an estate agent to enquire about a property in Lurgan...I'm actually considering moving to this fine place!
Just go out the road a couple of mile to Aghagallon.
Quote from: Rois on March 22, 2017, 08:50:55 PM
I phoned an estate agent to enquire about a property in Lurgan...I'm actually considering moving to this fine place!
It would be a change for you to live in a proper footballing county.
Quote from: JimStynes on March 22, 2017, 11:00:37 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 22, 2017, 08:50:55 PM
I phoned an estate agent to enquire about a property in Lurgan...I'm actually considering moving to this fine place!
Just go out the road a couple of mile to Aghagallon.
And when you get there and smell the silage just turn 180 degrees and drive straight back into Lurgan ;)
Quote from: illdecide on March 23, 2017, 09:43:20 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on March 22, 2017, 11:00:37 PM
Quote from: Rois on March 22, 2017, 08:50:55 PM
I phoned an estate agent to enquire about a property in Lurgan...I'm actually considering moving to this fine place!
Just go out the road a couple of mile to Aghagallon.
And when you get there and smell the silage just turn 180 degrees and drive straight back into Lurgan ;)
Typical townie.
Silage smells lovely. However slurry can be an issue, especially chicken or pig slurry.
Quote from: Donagh on March 22, 2017, 08:47:54 PM
Quote from: Orior on March 22, 2017, 08:00:30 PM
Interesting fact: there's a place beside Lurgan called the Munchies.
Spelt Montiaghs though.
I'm from there myself.
One of the dancers on RTE's 'Dancing With The Stars' final on Sunday is from Lurgan. Ryan McShane if know him.
Correct me if i'm wrong but if you're from one of the 7 Derry's then you're officially a Munchie...
Derrymacash
Derrytrasna
Derryadd
Derrymore
Derrycrowe
Whats the other 2...can't remember...Is Derryloiste one?
Two towns really. Nationalist bit and unionist bit. I did a fair bit of work about it, both halves, the funny thing is both bits a full of decent friendly people that is toward outsiders. it's just other lurgan folk they dislike.
Out of ten I'd give it 8. I like it.
Quote from: illdecide on March 24, 2017, 10:54:27 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong but if you're from one of the 7 Derry's then you're officially a Munchie...
Derrymacash
Derrytrasna
Derryadd
Derrymore
Derrycrowe
Whats the other 2...can't remember...Is Derryloiste one?
Derrycor.
Derryloiste would probably be one, but I think most people just call that area Kinnego.
Derrymore's out Aghagallon/Aghalee way.
Quote from: illdecide on March 24, 2017, 10:54:27 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong but if you're from one of the 7 Derry's then you're officially a Munchie...
Derrymacash
Derrytrasna
Derryadd
Derrymore
Derrycrowe
Whats the other 2...can't remember...Is Derryloiste one?
Aghagallon has seven derrys. Derrymore, Derryhirk etc. Stiffler or G's man will name the rest. It's too early for me to think of them all.
Quote from: JimStynes on March 25, 2017, 05:27:40 AM
Quote from: illdecide on March 24, 2017, 10:54:27 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong but if you're from one of the 7 Derry's then you're officially a Munchie...
Derrymacash
Derrytrasna
Derryadd
Derrymore
Derrycrowe
Whats the other 2...can't remember...Is Derryloiste one?
Aghagallon has seven derrys. Derrymore, Derryhirk etc. Stiffler or G's man will name the rest. It's too early for me to think of them all.
Did the planters cut down all the trees?
What an insult for the people of Derrymacash!
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/mistaken-identity-as-co-armagh-village-renamed-in-council-gaffe-35658481.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/mistaken-identity-as-co-armagh-village-renamed-in-council-gaffe-35658481.html)
We'll be getting out our Three Pronged Revolver again for the Derrymacash ones..........
An incident that took place in Aghagallon in 1790 became known as "The Battle of Annaghdroghal Bridge". A group of Protestant men from the nearby village of Waringstown, accompanied by flute and drum and under the command of Colonel Sharp, marched from Waringstown at the request of Lord Waring to plough and prepare a field in Aghagallon for a friend and fellow English landowner and Orangeman. Their journey from Waringstown to Aghagallon was a controversial one, with several incidents occurring along the way in the town of Lurgan.
As Col. Sharp and his men reached the Annaghdroghal Bridge just east of Aghagallon they were met by local men who refused them passage. A fight incurred and the Battle of Annaghdroghal began. Col. Sharp led his men in the first attack and was fatally wounded by "The Darkie" McStravick, receiving a chest wound from a three pronged muck fork. McStravick fled the scene and dumped the fork (The Three Pronged Revolver) down a dry well at Derryclone. The fork was retrieved around 1890 from the well and was presented to a local museum by Phelim McStravick in 2008
"Aghacommon"...Cough cough ;)
Pedantic Pat!
Big Pat and the Pedantic Dew
See the town made the headlines again yesterday after a mighty hullabaloo at the graveyard. Reports of 4 people stabbed and the air ambulance on the scene. Somehow only one person arrested. This could easily be in the WTF thread. No respect even at funerals these days.
Quote from: lurganblue on February 13, 2018, 11:53:39 AM
See the town made the headlines again yesterday after a mighty hullabaloo at the graveyard. Reports of 4 people stabbed and the air ambulance on the scene. Somehow only one person arrested. This could easily be in the WTF thread. No respect even at funerals these days.
Who was getting buried?
Quote from: lurganblue on February 13, 2018, 11:53:39 AM
See the town made the headlines again yesterday after a mighty hullabaloo at the graveyard. Reports of 4 people stabbed and the air ambulance on the scene. Somehow only one person arrested. This could easily be in the WTF thread. No respect even at funerals these days.
fun and games at these funerals
Take it this was the gypos?
Just culture then.
Would there be a grant available?
As long as they're taking each other out...
Funerals are great. You get to see relations that you haven't seen for ages. After the initial "sorry for your trouble" you can relax and have a laugh about the good old days.
Funerals are terrible. Besides the fact that someone died, you have to spend time with relations that you'd rather not spend time with.
Bad gets
What's with the ruckus today with the PSNI at that republican parade? I saw video of it but didn't see what happened in the lead-up to it. Seems like the cops were well prepared for trouble. The sources I have said the cops "ambushed" the parade (organised by Republican Sinn Fein) and started the trouble. Does anyone have any inside info?
Looked like the Police had 'this is an illegal parade' sign draped over a Landrover.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 01, 2018, 04:41:04 AM
What's with the ruckus today with the PSNI at that republican parade? I saw video of it but didn't see what happened in the lead-up to it. Seems like the cops were well prepared for trouble. The sources I have said the cops "ambushed" the parade (organised by Republican Sinn Fein) and started the trouble. Does anyone have any inside info?
Carla Lockhart kicked up a massive fuss about he one last year so the cops were probably well briefed on it. They did look to go in heavy handed
They flattened a pensioner in the process. Look forward to PSNI Craigavon's cheerful take on it on Facebook...
Quote from: general_lee on April 01, 2018, 11:35:00 AM
They flattened a pensioner in the process. Look forward to PSNI Craigavon's cheerful take on it on Facebook...
Did you see the video?
Police had no need to get involved by the looks of it. The parade would have been over and one with in an hour and home with the need for all that carryon. But at the same time I wouldn't have much time for the people involved in the parade. The vast majority of them wouldn't exactly be the pillars of society.
Quote from: tonto1888 on April 01, 2018, 08:07:25 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 01, 2018, 04:41:04 AM
What's with the ruckus today with the PSNI at that republican parade? I saw video of it but didn't see what happened in the lead-up to it. Seems like the cops were well prepared for trouble. The sources I have said the cops "ambushed" the parade (organised by Republican Sinn Fein) and started the trouble. Does anyone have any inside info?
Carla Lockhart kicked up a massive fuss about he one last year so the cops were probably well briefed on it. They did look to go in heavy handed
She seems like a piece of work.
Quote from: tonto1888 on April 01, 2018, 11:37:10 AM
Quote from: general_lee on April 01, 2018, 11:35:00 AM
They flattened a pensioner in the process. Look forward to PSNI Craigavon's cheerful take on it on Facebook...
Did you see the video?
I've seen a few videos. They had two unmarked minibuses full of cops as well as a pile of landrovers.
I'm no support of RSF but they definitely could have dealt with it better. Next year will be a bundle of laughs, or maybe they didn't think that far ahead
Saw a video of the police landing in, no need. Plenty of marches coming up that break the rules too yet you never see this carry-on. Also saw the videos of the marching and never saw anything as embarassing either. Are the sunglasses compulsary even if there isnt a hint of anything but dark clouds?
Quote from: general_lee on April 01, 2018, 12:45:38 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on April 01, 2018, 11:37:10 AM
Quote from: general_lee on April 01, 2018, 11:35:00 AM
They flattened a pensioner in the process. Look forward to PSNI Craigavon's cheerful take on it on Facebook...
Did you see the video?
I've seen a few videos. They had two unmarked minibuses full of cops as well as a pile of landrovers.
I'm no support of RSF but they definitely could have dealt with it better. Next year will be a bundle of laughs, or maybe they didn't think that far ahead
I agree with ye. I didn't think the woman got knocked over by a cop tho. Thought she tripped
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 01, 2018, 12:57:13 PM
Saw a video of the police landing in, no need. Plenty of marches coming up that break the rules too yet you never see this carry-on. Also saw the videos of the marching and never saw anything as embarassing either. Are the sunglasses compulsary even if there isnt a hint of anything but dark clouds?
Anyone under 18 stone or over 5 ft need not apply for the colour party
Quote from: general_lee on April 01, 2018, 11:35:00 AM
They flattened a pensioner in the process. Look forward to PSNI Craigavon's cheerful take on it on Facebook...
Will the #Ibelieveshewasknockedover crowd start a proper protest all over the country?
6 from the 7 arrested were not from Lurgan ::)
I was supposed to get the keys to my new house in Lurgan today.
The developer pulled out on Wednesday and is not going to sell us the house. Our mortgage was drawn down and everything, we have furniture bought.
If any of you Lurgan ones know anyone buying a new-build house in or around Solitude/Kilmore Road, tell them to speak to me first about the developer. Happy to spread the word about our horrific experience.
Or if you know anyone selling a nice house in the area, let me know. Need somewhere to live as I've paid the golf club fees for the year already...
Quote from: Rois on May 24, 2019, 04:16:09 PM
I was supposed to get the keys to my new house in Lurgan today.
The developer pulled out on Wednesday and is not going to sell us the house. Our mortgage was drawn down and everything, we have furniture bought.
If any of you Lurgan ones know anyone buying a new-build house in or around Solitude/Kilmore Road, tell them to speak to me first about the developer. Happy to spread the word about our horrific experience.
Or if you know anyone selling a nice house in the area, let me know. Need somewhere to live as I've paid the golf club fees for the year already...
Can you not sue him on the back of the contract and enforce it? That seems very strange Rois
Nope, didn't sign anything, we were just going to exchange and complete on the same day. I've a brother in law at the bar who advised me, he's done plenty of property work - we could give a partial completion argument a bit of a go, but unlikely to be successful, just wrack up costs.
We were never asked for a deposit (strange for a new-build) and it suited us as the OH was always suspicious. We suspect it's mainly greed - there's a bit of momentum in the development and we struck a price last year so he probably thinks he can better it.
But to happen two days before we planned to move in is just cruel! This company has plenty of houses to sell around Lurgan so just wanted to warn others.
Quote from: Rois on May 24, 2019, 04:16:09 PM
I was supposed to get the keys to my new house in Lurgan today.
The developer pulled out on Wednesday and is not going to sell us the house. Our mortgage was drawn down and everything, we have furniture bought.
If any of you Lurgan ones know anyone buying a new-build house in or around Solitude/Kilmore Road, tell them to speak to me first about the developer. Happy to spread the word about our horrific experience.
Or if you know anyone selling a nice house in the area, let me know. Need somewhere to live as I've paid the golf club fees for the year already...
Sent you a PM there Rois.
Quote from: Rois on May 24, 2019, 04:16:09 PM
I was supposed to get the keys to my new house in Lurgan today.
The developer pulled out on Wednesday and is not going to sell us the house. Our mortgage was drawn down and everything, we have furniture bought.
If any of you Lurgan ones know anyone buying a new-build house in or around Solitude/Kilmore Road, tell them to speak to me first about the developer. Happy to spread the word about our horrific experience.
Or if you know anyone selling a nice house in the area, let me know. Need somewhere to live as I've paid the golf club fees for the year already...
Sorry to hear that. Who is the builder?
Aghagallon is only out the road ???
Stick a big sign "cheats" on a van and park outside the showhouse.
Bad form but at least you didn't lose a deposit. Unusual behaviour for a new build not having contracts signed. Builder will get a name for that and people won't deal with them. Tell a few people and watch it spread like wildfire.
Carter Wood?
Why would a builder/developer pull out like that? Have they got a bigger offer from another buyer or what? I'd go to town on them ... estate agent, developer, builder, the lot of them! I know the area, top notch location.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 24, 2019, 06:38:53 PM
Carter Wood?
Solitude Hall - same guys. Carter Wood not yet built.
They said they have interest at £30k more. But didn't ask us for any more. We have gone as far as buying the number for the door of the house.
Plenty of good reliable builders in Lurgan.
maybe a bullet dodged
People pay their hard earned money to live in Lurgan? A bullet dodged.
Quote from: Ambrose on May 24, 2019, 09:16:00 PM
People pay their hard earned money to live in Lurgan? A bullet dodged.
No better place to live
Was through it earlier. Thankfully, Dublin bound train didn't stop till Portadown.
I'm somewhat confused.....was the purchase (and price) of this house guaranteed by nothing more than a handshake and someone's word?
How did you get financing if a written contract was not in place?
Quote from: Rois on May 24, 2019, 04:16:09 PM
I was supposed to get the keys to my new house in Lurgan today.
The developer pulled out on Wednesday and is not going to sell us the house. Our mortgage was drawn down and everything, we have furniture bought.
If any of you Lurgan ones know anyone buying a new-build house in or around Solitude/Kilmore Road, tell them to speak to me first about the developer. Happy to spread the word about our horrific experience.
Or if you know anyone selling a nice house in the area, let me know. Need somewhere to live as I've paid the golf club fees for the year already...
I'm a bit confused here. You have a case against your solicitor for fraud.
It's commonplace these days to sign the contract on the day of exchange. That said your solicitor could only have got the money from the mortgage company by confirming clean title and execution of their mortgage charge. You cannot have clean title unless the vendor had clean title to pass and you have exchanged contracts with the vendor. Sue the solicitor
Looks like Farrell has exploited the gap the solicitor left open for them and now it's going to bite the solicitor in the bum. Who was the solicitor? If all that you say is correct then your case is watertight and you have nothing to fear. And you were happy to name the developer
Sue for what though? Disappointment? Title issues were dealt with to our solicitor's satisfaction and the contract was executed our end, but not by the vendor at the end of the day. The contract specified the price etc but we wouldn't sign until certain clauses were amended, the maps were corrected (they were wrong) etc. Our solicitor certainly acted in good faith and I do not blame them in any way or have any desire to sue them.
Just pointing out our experience, all factual. Just feeling sorry for myself, and disappointed that the impending migration to Lurgan is now delayed.
Quote from: Rois on May 25, 2019, 09:03:57 AM
Sue for what though? Disappointment? Title issues were dealt with to our solicitor's satisfaction and the contract was executed our end, but not by the vendor at the end of the day. The contract specified the price etc but we wouldn't sign until certain clauses were amended, the maps were corrected (they were wrong) etc. Our solicitor certainly acted in good faith and I do not blame them in any way or have any desire to sue them.
Just pointing out our experience, all factual. Not alleging any legal wrongdoing by the vendor. Just feeling sorry for myself, and disappointed that the impending migration to Lurgan is now delayed.
Rois,
From experience ( over 25 years 😉)in a development clause are non negotiable.
Normally if it's a new house you will have a building agreement and an agreement for lease with the deposit paid ( requirements to allow you to be confident you Re in a binding contract)
I find it strange that nothing was signed and you were proceeding to drawdown.
Questions should be asked as to how this happened.
Ah I hear what you are saying. This is probably a bit more nuanced. My OH worked in distressed banking for years and had previous knowledge of the developer. We agreed terms by email last year, including some specific variations, but we knew we weren't in a binding contract, which suited us too, given our suspicions. The contract that came through from them still needed amendment.
Our downfall was probably that we had too much direct contact with the developer, and assumed it would proceed from informality to formality at their word. I know this isn't standard, but I feel so aggrieved that they did not hold to their word, and given their solicitor was engaging right up to 2 days before planned completion, we had no reason to be suspicious.
Hopefully no one else has the same experience.
Quote from: Rois on May 24, 2019, 04:23:40 PM
Nope, didn't sign anything, we were just going to exchange and complete on the same day. I've a brother in law at the bar who advised me, he's done plenty of property work - we could give a partial completion argument a bit of a go, but unlikely to be successful, just wrack up costs.
We were never asked for a deposit (strange for a new-build) and it suited us as the OH was always suspicious. We suspect it's mainly greed - there's a bit of momentum in the development and we struck a price last year so he probably thinks he can better it.
But to happen two days before we planned to move in is just cruel! This company has plenty of houses to sell around Lurgan so just wanted to warn others.
Forget Lurgan, can't believe that you would even think of buying there.
Take your money, add a little more or downsize slightly and move the Moira/Magheralin and you have a village area with access to M1 and the train. Belfast in 22 minutes by train from Moira.
Quote from: Rois on May 25, 2019, 09:03:57 AM
Sue for what though? Disappointment? Title issues were dealt with to our solicitor's satisfaction and the contract was executed our end, but not by the vendor at the end of the day. The contract specified the price etc but we wouldn't sign until certain clauses were amended, the maps were corrected (they were wrong) etc. Our solicitor certainly acted in good faith and I do not blame them in any way or have any desire to sue them.
Just pointing out our experience, all factual. Not alleging any legal wrongdoing by the vendor. Just feeling sorry for myself, and disappointed that the impending migration to Lurgan is now delayed.
Take it as a sign and a lucky escape and get away from Lurgan as quick as possible. Shake the dust off you sandals and move on.
Crazy that you'd consider living in Lurgan voluntarily.
Never mind. What's for you won't go past you.
Could have been worse. He could have been thinking about living in Portadown.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 25, 2019, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: Rois on May 24, 2019, 04:23:40 PM
Nope, didn't sign anything, we were just going to exchange and complete on the same day. I've a brother in law at the bar who advised me, he's done plenty of property work - we could give a partial completion argument a bit of a go, but unlikely to be successful, just wrack up costs.
We were never asked for a deposit (strange for a new-build) and it suited us as the OH was always suspicious. We suspect it's mainly greed - there's a bit of momentum in the development and we struck a price last year so he probably thinks he can better it.
But to happen two days before we planned to move in is just cruel! This company has plenty of houses to sell around Lurgan so just wanted to warn others.
Forget Lurgan, can't believe that you would even think of buying there.
Take your money, add a little more or downsize slightly and move the Moira/Magheralin and you have a village area with access to M1 and the train. Belfast in 22 minutes by train from Moira.
Ask the good folk in Moira about their rush hour traffic.. ask them how they enjoy standing for 20mins every morning on their 22 minute commute, that's if they can even get on the train that is... or if they can get parked in the morning...cos you know the station isn't actually in the village...
Seriously I know Lurgan gets a bad rep but it's not like it's Beirut. And the area Rois was moving to is really nice.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 25, 2019, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: Rois on May 24, 2019, 04:23:40 PM
Nope, didn't sign anything, we were just going to exchange and complete on the same day. I've a brother in law at the bar who advised me, he's done plenty of property work - we could give a partial completion argument a bit of a go, but unlikely to be successful, just wrack up costs.
We were never asked for a deposit (strange for a new-build) and it suited us as the OH was always suspicious. We suspect it's mainly greed - there's a bit of momentum in the development and we struck a price last year so he probably thinks he can better it.
But to happen two days before we planned to move in is just cruel! This company has plenty of houses to sell around Lurgan so just wanted to warn others.
Forget Lurgan, can't believe that you would even think of buying there.
Take your money, add a little more or downsize slightly and move the Moira/Magheralin and you have a village area with access to M1 and the train. Belfast in 22 minutes by train from Moira.
Magheralin is a depressing looking wee place. Would make Glenmornan seem like New York.
Quote from: general_lee on May 27, 2019, 03:03:17 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 25, 2019, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: Rois on May 24, 2019, 04:23:40 PM
Nope, didn't sign anything, we were just going to exchange and complete on the same day. I've a brother in law at the bar who advised me, he's done plenty of property work - we could give a partial completion argument a bit of a go, but unlikely to be successful, just wrack up costs.
We were never asked for a deposit (strange for a new-build) and it suited us as the OH was always suspicious. We suspect it's mainly greed - there's a bit of momentum in the development and we struck a price last year so he probably thinks he can better it.
But to happen two days before we planned to move in is just cruel! This company has plenty of houses to sell around Lurgan so just wanted to warn others.
Forget Lurgan, can't believe that you would even think of buying there.
Take your money, add a little more or downsize slightly and move the Moira/Magheralin and you have a village area with access to M1 and the train. Belfast in 22 minutes by train from Moira.
Ask the good folk in Moira about their rush hour traffic.. ask them how they enjoy standing for 20mins every morning on their 22 minute commute, that's if they can even get on the train that is... or if they can get parked in the morning...cos you know the station isn't actually in the village...
Seriously I know Lurgan gets a bad rep but it's not like it's Beirut. And the area Rois was moving to is really nice.
That area is top notch and TBH most people here on the board would get a shock if they seen how upmarket it is. Lurgan is the spot Rois and you know it or you wouldn't have considered living there...There is a nice big house for sale in Kiln Vale (just went up last week), principle of nearby school owns it. Really nice and half a mile from M1...
Quote from: illdecide on May 27, 2019, 09:27:34 AM
That area is top notch and TBH most people here on the board would get a shock if they seen how upmarket it is. Lurgan is the spot Rois and you know it or you wouldn't have considered living there...There is a nice big house for sale in Kiln Vale (just went up last week), principle of nearby school owns it. Really nice and half a mile from M1...
Going to view it on Thurs ;D
My sister in law lives in one of the other three in there so we know the neighbours. The area just isn't as nice as I'd talked myself into with the Kilmore Rd property.
Lurgan prices in many areas are no cheaper per sq ft than Moira. And the point has been made about how much of a nightmare Moira traffic is, with the train station the other side of the motorway. Lurgan trains take 29 mins to Gt Vic St.
Quote from: Rois on May 27, 2019, 12:19:36 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 27, 2019, 09:27:34 AM
That area is top notch and TBH most people here on the board would get a shock if they seen how upmarket it is. Lurgan is the spot Rois and you know it or you wouldn't have considered living there...There is a nice big house for sale in Kiln Vale (just went up last week), principle of nearby school owns it. Really nice and half a mile from M1...
Going to view it on Thurs ;D
My sister in law lives in one of the other three in there so we know the neighbours. The area just isn't as nice as I'd talked myself into with the Kilmore Rd property.
Lurgan prices in many areas are no cheaper per sq ft than Moira. And the point has been made about how much of a nightmare Moira traffic is, with the train station the other side of the motorway. Lurgan trains take 29 mins to Gt Vic St.
Have you tried to drive through Lurgan when the railway gates close? Traffic builds up everywhere and then takes a good while to disperse. It is worse than Moira where land has now been bought by Translink to build a proper carpark unlike the mess of parking around the station in Lurgan.
Quote from: Rois on May 25, 2019, 09:03:57 AM
Sue for what though? Disappointment? Title issues were dealt with to our solicitor's satisfaction and the contract was executed our end, but not by the vendor at the end of the day. The contract specified the price etc but we wouldn't sign until certain clauses were amended, the maps were corrected (they were wrong) etc. Our solicitor certainly acted in good faith and I do not blame them in any way or have any desire to sue them.
Just pointing out our experience, all factual. Not alleging any legal wrongdoing by the vendor. Just feeling sorry for myself, and disappointed that the impending migration to Lurgan is now delayed.
Looks like a mortgage fraud has been committed. Through incompetence rather than wilful fraud. You say the mortgage company paid out. They will want that back including the interest. Is the solicitor covering the interest?
Get yourself a house near the train station and walk to it. There's plenty of housing around the Victoria St. area. Close to Lord Lurgan Park and a short walk from the town centre while you're at it. The Lough Rd. is a good spot. Me and the missus stay in the Derry Lodge B&B any time we're visiting family now.
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 27, 2019, 12:24:10 PM
Quote from: Rois on May 27, 2019, 12:19:36 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 27, 2019, 09:27:34 AM
That area is top notch and TBH most people here on the board would get a shock if they seen how upmarket it is. Lurgan is the spot Rois and you know it or you wouldn't have considered living there...There is a nice big house for sale in Kiln Vale (just went up last week), principle of nearby school owns it. Really nice and half a mile from M1...
Going to view it on Thurs ;D
My sister in law lives in one of the other three in there so we know the neighbours. The area just isn't as nice as I'd talked myself into with the Kilmore Rd property.
Lurgan prices in many areas are no cheaper per sq ft than Moira. And the point has been made about how much of a nightmare Moira traffic is, with the train station the other side of the motorway. Lurgan trains take 29 mins to Gt Vic St.
Have you tried to drive through Lurgan when the railway gates close? Traffic builds up everywhere and then takes a good while to disperse. It is worse than Moira where land has now been bought by Translink to build a proper carpark unlike the mess of parking around the station in Lurgan.
It certainly isn't worse than Moira. And there is nowhere in Lurgan that you need to go up William street to get to. I rarely, if ever, get stopped at the train lines
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 27, 2019, 05:54:09 PM
Get yourself a house near the train station and walk to it. There's plenty of housing around the Victoria St. area. Close to Lord Lurgan Park and a short walk from the town centre while you're at it. The Lough Rd. is a good spot. Me and the missus stay in the Derry Lodge B&B any time we're visiting family now.
Dunno how long you have been away but Victoria Street is definitely not an advisable place to live these days.
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 27, 2019, 06:10:58 PM
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That area is top notch and TBH most people here on the board would get a shock if they seen how upmarket it is. Lurgan is the spot Rois and you know it or you wouldn't have considered living there...There is a nice big house for sale in Kiln Vale (just went up last week), principle of nearby school owns it. Really nice and half a mile from M1...
Going to view it on Thurs ;D
My sister in law lives in one of the other three in there so we know the neighbours. The area just isn't as nice as I'd talked myself into with the Kilmore Rd property.
Lurgan prices in many areas are no cheaper per sq ft than Moira. And the point has been made about how much of a nightmare Moira traffic is, with the train station the other side of the motorway. Lurgan trains take 29 mins to Gt Vic St.
Have you tried to drive through Lurgan when the railway gates close? Traffic builds up everywhere and then takes a good while to disperse. It is worse than Moira where land has now been bought by Translink to build a proper carpark unlike the mess of parking around the station in Lurgan.
It certainly isn't worse than Moira. And there is nowhere in Lurgan that you need to go up William street to get to. I rarely, if ever, get stopped at the train lines
Yeah Moira is 100 times worse than Lurgan for traffic, there are so many ways of avoiding the train lines in Lurgan. Moira is just a straight with a traffic light, when you are stuck in it you are stuck.
Quote from: Don Johnson on May 27, 2019, 06:19:41 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 27, 2019, 05:54:09 PM
Get yourself a house near the train station and walk to it. There's plenty of housing around the Victoria St. area. Close to Lord Lurgan Park and a short walk from the town centre while you're at it. The Lough Rd. is a good spot. Me and the missus stay in the Derry Lodge B&B any time we're visiting family now.
Dunno how long you have been away but Victoria Street is definitely not an advisable place to live these days.
How about Albert St. and the like? What's gone wrong with Victoria Street? I had a lot of mates living there when I was at school and it wasn't a bad place.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 28, 2019, 03:26:42 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on May 27, 2019, 06:19:41 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 27, 2019, 05:54:09 PM
Get yourself a house near the train station and walk to it. There's plenty of housing around the Victoria St. area. Close to Lord Lurgan Park and a short walk from the town centre while you're at it. The Lough Rd. is a good spot. Me and the missus stay in the Derry Lodge B&B any time we're visiting family now.
Dunno how long you have been away but Victoria Street is definitely not an advisable place to live these days.
How about Albert St. and the like? What's gone wrong with Victoria Street? I had a lot of mates living there when I was at school and it wasn't a bad place.
Check out the suspicious death rate in that area over the last three years.
Lurgan isn't a bad place at all and lots of nice areas in it, including the area Rois was talking about moving to. A small minority gives Lurgan a bad name and the local politicians don't help either by drumming up hate at various times of the year.
Including very recently over the soldier F banner
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 28, 2019, 10:54:08 AM
Including very recently over the soldier F banner
Good work by the young team taking it down and putting a match to it.
Quote from: charlieTully on May 28, 2019, 11:06:38 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 28, 2019, 10:54:08 AM
Including very recently over the soldier F banner
Good work by the young team taking it down and putting a match to it.
There was a revenge attack in Kilwilkie last night. Ones from the other end paint bombed the Republican murals and the Easter Rising monument thing at the bottom of the road.
Quote from: Don Johnson on May 28, 2019, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on May 28, 2019, 11:06:38 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 28, 2019, 10:54:08 AM
Including very recently over the soldier F banner
Good work by the young team taking it down and putting a match to it.
There was a revenge attack in Kilwilkie last night. Ones from the other end paint bombed the Republican murals and the Easter Rising monument thing at the bottom of the road.
Is there a bigger kip anywhere in the North?
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 28, 2019, 03:26:42 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on May 27, 2019, 06:19:41 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 27, 2019, 05:54:09 PM
Get yourself a house near the train station and walk to it. There's plenty of housing around the Victoria St. area. Close to Lord Lurgan Park and a short walk from the town centre while you're at it. The Lough Rd. is a good spot. Me and the missus stay in the Derry Lodge B&B any time we're visiting family now.
Dunno how long you have been away but Victoria Street is definitely not an advisable place to live these days.
How about Albert St. and the like? What's gone wrong with Victoria Street? I had a lot of mates living there when I was at school and it wasn't a bad place.
Lived in the Lough Road/Victoria St area myself growing up. Take your life in your hands walking down Victoria Street or Albert Street late at night now!
From Derrylodge Manor on down towards Woodville is all grand though.
Quote from: trailer on May 28, 2019, 11:36:59 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on May 28, 2019, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on May 28, 2019, 11:06:38 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 28, 2019, 10:54:08 AM
Including very recently over the soldier F banner
Good work by the young team taking it down and putting a match to it.
There was a revenge attack in Kilwilkie last night. Ones from the other end paint bombed the Republican murals and the Easter Rising monument thing at the bottom of the road.
Is there a bigger kip anywhere in the North?
Is there a bigger stoop snob anywhere in the north?
Quote from: trailer on May 28, 2019, 11:36:59 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on May 28, 2019, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on May 28, 2019, 11:06:38 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 28, 2019, 10:54:08 AM
Including very recently over the soldier F banner
Good work by the young team taking it down and putting a match to it.
There was a revenge attack in Kilwilkie last night. Ones from the other end paint bombed the Republican murals and the Easter Rising monument thing at the bottom of the road.
Is there a bigger kip anywhere in the North?
Your house
Quote from: The Gs Man on May 28, 2019, 11:50:34 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 28, 2019, 03:26:42 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on May 27, 2019, 06:19:41 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 27, 2019, 05:54:09 PM
Get yourself a house near the train station and walk to it. There's plenty of housing around the Victoria St. area. Close to Lord Lurgan Park and a short walk from the town centre while you're at it. The Lough Rd. is a good spot. Me and the missus stay in the Derry Lodge B&B any time we're visiting family now.
Dunno how long you have been away but Victoria Street is definitely not an advisable place to live these days.
How about Albert St. and the like? What's gone wrong with Victoria Street? I had a lot of mates living there when I was at school and it wasn't a bad place.
Lived in the Lough Road/Victoria St area myself growing up. Take your life in your hands walking down Victoria Street or Albert Street late at night now!
From Derrylodge Manor on down towards Woodville is all grand though.
Admittedly I can't speak for Albert street but this is complete nonsense in regards to Victoria street
Too many shinies like G's man moving out to good country areas like Aghagallon.
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 28, 2019, 01:03:50 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on May 28, 2019, 11:50:34 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 28, 2019, 03:26:42 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on May 27, 2019, 06:19:41 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on May 27, 2019, 05:54:09 PM
Get yourself a house near the train station and walk to it. There's plenty of housing around the Victoria St. area. Close to Lord Lurgan Park and a short walk from the town centre while you're at it. The Lough Rd. is a good spot. Me and the missus stay in the Derry Lodge B&B any time we're visiting family now.
Dunno how long you have been away but Victoria Street is definitely not an advisable place to live these days.
How about Albert St. and the like? What's gone wrong with Victoria Street? I had a lot of mates living there when I was at school and it wasn't a bad place.
Lived in the Lough Road/Victoria St area myself growing up. Take your life in your hands walking down Victoria Street or Albert Street late at night now!
From Derrylodge Manor on down towards Woodville is all grand though.
Admittedly I can't speak for Albert street but this is complete nonsense in regards to Victoria street
Ok, slight exaggeration, but I'm more basing it on the offshoots of Victoria St like Princess Street and Woodville St etc.....
Quote from: charlieTully on May 28, 2019, 11:06:38 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 28, 2019, 10:54:08 AM
Including very recently over the soldier F banner
Good work by the young team taking it down and putting a match to it.
Back up again, wonder how long it will last this time ::)
New ice cream cafe opening soon enough in Lurgan... :o
And I'm back in the race - have a booking deposit paid on a different house, location not as nice but good house.
Quote from: Don Johnson on July 02, 2019, 08:58:38 AM
New ice cream cafe opening soon enough in Lurgan... :o
Correct. Hope it goes well for them ;D
Quote from: Rois on July 02, 2019, 09:01:10 AM
And I'm back in the race - have a booking deposit paid on a different house, location not as nice but good house.
Welcome! We're not all bad.
Quote from: Don Johnson on July 02, 2019, 08:58:38 AM
New ice cream cafe opening soon enough in Lurgan... :o
Opened yesterday, was total mad. Never seen anything like it, the queue out the door was unreal. Quality stuff there ;)
Declare an interest! ;)
Had my first Cafolla Joes there, tasty stuff.
They ran out of ice cream yesterday. Great to see them doing so well!
Quote from: The Gs Man on July 08, 2019, 08:16:23 AM
They ran out of ice cream yesterday. Great to see them doing so well!
I was in Blackrock yesterday with the kids and the queue for Ice cream everywhere was unreal....the Whippy machine where we got it had to be shut off as the motor had overheated!
Quote from: The Gs Man on July 08, 2019, 08:16:23 AM
They ran out of ice cream yesterday. Great to see them doing so well!
Yeah, that was so disappointing as the queue was massive and to turn people away was not good. The reality is it's difficult to make it and get ahead of ourselves as it's being sold at the rate of making it...hard, hard work btw.
No better man for the job!
Quote from: illdecide on July 08, 2019, 12:12:55 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on July 08, 2019, 08:16:23 AM
They ran out of ice cream yesterday. Great to see them doing so well!
Yeah, that was so disappointing as the queue was massive and to turn people away was not good. The reality is it's difficult to make it and get ahead of ourselves as it's being sold at the rate of making it...hard, hard work btw.
Slaughtered;
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Where's the new ice cream parlour? I hear they closed the Carnegie St. cafe.
Church place. Up a bit from the vintage. I'll wait till the queue settles before paying a visit so
What about that bar that was burned? The roof was still missing from that building last time I looked. And there was another missing tooth up the street where the old Stereovision used to be, another gap in the buildings. Awful looking.
I hear the town is full of Covid. Somebody in the Eurospar on the Portadown road was supposed to have tested positive, somebody in Tesco, and apparently some footballers from the Peters had a house party and now that's been a spreading event. Anybody hear that?
Old news now. Half the town has had and from what I've seen, not a single one showing symptoms at all.
Moved to Lurgan last month (eventually), and there's been a hike in dissident activity and Covid infections since then. Perfect timing ;D
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 31, 2020, 06:44:13 PM
I hear the town is full of Covid. Somebody in the Eurospar on the Portadown road was supposed to have tested positive, somebody in Tesco, and apparently some footballers from the Peters had a house party and now that's been a spreading event. Anybody hear that?
f**k sake, I was in thon Tesco on Friday. None of those Spadetown backstards better not have given me this feckin' thing!
At this stage most towns are seeing it.
Quote from: Rois on August 31, 2020, 08:54:12 PM
Moved to Lurgan last month (eventually), and there's been a hike in dissident activity and Covid infections since then. Perfect timing ;D
What's up with the dizzies? Was it them that burned out the delivery van on the tracks at Lake St.? Or just random young gulpins with too much to drink?
Quote from: Rois on August 31, 2020, 08:54:12 PM
Moved to Lurgan last month (eventually), and there's been a hike in dissident activity and Covid infections since then. Perfect timing ;D
Funny Fortwilliam has gotten an awful lot quieter.....hmmmm? ;D
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 31, 2020, 09:51:36 PM
Quote from: Rois on August 31, 2020, 08:54:12 PM
Moved to Lurgan last month (eventually), and there's been a hike in dissident activity and Covid infections since then. Perfect timing ;D
What's up with the dizzies? Was it them that burned out the delivery van on the tracks at Lake St.? Or just random young gulpins with too much to drink?
Is there a difference?
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 31, 2020, 09:59:37 PM
Quote from: Rois on August 31, 2020, 08:54:12 PM
Moved to Lurgan last month (eventually), and there's been a hike in dissident activity and Covid infections since then. Perfect timing ;D
Funny Fortwilliam has gotten an awful lot quieter.....hmmmm? ;D
I was also wondering why I hadn't seen here skulking around, lol.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 31, 2020, 09:59:37 PM
Quote from: Rois on August 31, 2020, 08:54:12 PM
Moved to Lurgan last month (eventually), and there's been a hike in dissident activity and Covid infections since then. Perfect timing ;D
Funny Fortwilliam has gotten an awful lot quieter.....hmmmm? ;D
:)
Things have quietened down a bit this week...
Quote from: Orior on September 01, 2020, 11:20:33 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 31, 2020, 09:59:37 PM
Quote from: Rois on August 31, 2020, 08:54:12 PM
Moved to Lurgan last month (eventually), and there's been a hike in dissident activity and Covid infections since then. Perfect timing ;D
Funny Fortwilliam has gotten an awful lot quieter.....hmmmm? ;D
I was also wondering why I hadn't seen here skulking around, lol.
Ha - never fear, my younger sister is installed in the Demesne, there's still two sisters in BT15.
Soyes Mill has been demolished. The oldest industrial building in County Armagh, dating from 1830. Was used until recent times by light industry and small businesses. A shame.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 10, 2021, 01:28:23 AM
Soyes Mill has been demolished. The oldest industrial building in County Armagh, dating from 1830. Was used until recent times by light industry and small businesses. A shame.
That whole piece of land across from St. Peter's is terrible looking all the same. Another sad sight is St. Michael's school being demolished. I had nothing but happy memories from that school. They'll need to make St. Ronan's work after all the messing about they've done with that site over the past 10 years.
We're up opposite the St Michael's site, but selfishly glad the school's been torn down, it was an eyesore left to decay there. My husband lamented the ruin of the lawn out front that was apparently kept really well by the nuns? It became a drinking site and possible dissident gun storage area.
Could do with a footpath upgrade now, which I believe is coming sometime soon.
Quote from: Rois on June 10, 2021, 08:54:44 AM
We're up opposite the St Michael's site, but selfishly glad the school's been torn down, it was an eyesore left to decay there. My husband lamented the ruin of the lawn out front that was apparently kept really well by the nuns? It became a drinking site and possible dissident gun storage area.
Could do with a footpath upgrade now, which I believe is coming sometime soon.
Yes I think I saw they plan on an improved footpath right out to St Teresa's PS.
The handling of the school situation remains a disaster IMO. It is good to see that they are finally starting some kind of progress. The traffic out your way when it opens will be unbelievable.
Add the 40-odd houses they are building in beside us and same just below us 🙈 I think our development entrance is after the planned school entrances, main gate supposed to be off North Circular?
I don't know how 1500 students and staff is going to cause some traffic congestion up there. Plus the usual St. Teresa's traffic as well. Those houses and new builds up beside you are lovely Rois.
Quote from: JimStynes on June 10, 2021, 06:00:29 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 10, 2021, 01:28:23 AM
Soyes Mill has been demolished. The oldest industrial building in County Armagh, dating from 1830. Was used until recent times by light industry and small businesses. A shame.
That whole piece of land across from St. Peter's is terrible looking all the same. Another sad sight is St. Michael's school being demolished. I had nothing but happy memories from that school. They'll need to make St. Ronan's work after all the messing about they've done with that site over the past 10 years.
The nuns must have liked you then. If your parents were local business owners then they rolled out the red carpet for you, but if you were ordinary working class they treated you like dirt. Some people came out of that place traumatised. I was one of them.
I hope the new school is a success.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 10, 2021, 03:43:25 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on June 10, 2021, 06:00:29 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 10, 2021, 01:28:23 AM
Soyes Mill has been demolished. The oldest industrial building in County Armagh, dating from 1830. Was used until recent times by light industry and small businesses. A shame.
That whole piece of land across from St. Peter's is terrible looking all the same. Another sad sight is St. Michael's school being demolished. I had nothing but happy memories from that school. They'll need to make St. Ronan's work after all the messing about they've done with that site over the past 10 years.
The nuns must have liked you then. If your parents were local business owners then they rolled out the red carpet for you, but if you were ordinary working class they treated you like dirt. Some people came out of that place traumatised. I was one of them.
I hope the new school is a success.
There were no nuns there when I went there. Great teachers like Seamus Heffron. I've not spoken anyone around my age who hated St Mick's.
He was one of the better ones. Respected his pupils, knew how to teach, and was good craic.
In my day the teachers could be a bit hit-and-miss. The good ones were very good, but god help you if you got any of the bad ones.
Quote from: Rois on June 10, 2021, 12:57:34 PM
Add the 40-odd houses they are building in beside us and same just below us 🙈 I think our development entrance is after the planned school entrances, main gate supposed to be off North Circular?
Are you in foxley? My sister lives there
Yep, moved in last yr. Which number?
Maybe Rois is your sister
Had a few pints of stout in the stables mid week. Great pint of Guinness.
Number 2
A lot of rumours doing the rounds tonight of more people murdered in a drug war!
Quote from: JimStynes on January 14, 2023, 10:41:08 PM
A lot of rumours doing the rounds tonight of more people murdered in a drug war!
Are they Albanian?
Some amount of murders in Lurgan, and extended area, the past 10 odd years. Can count about 9 since around 2011 or so.
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 15, 2023, 12:36:39 AM
Some amount of murders in Lurgan, and extended area, the past 10 odd years. Can count about 9 since around 2011 or so.
I blame the blow ins
Quote from: JimStynes on January 14, 2023, 10:41:08 PM
A lot of rumours doing the rounds tonight of more people murdered in a drug war!
The "11 people dead" thing? That was a hoax. Yer man that was shot in the park though, that was drug-related, allegedly.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 17, 2023, 04:47:01 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on January 14, 2023, 10:41:08 PM
A lot of rumours doing the rounds tonight of more people murdered in a drug war!
The "11 people dead" thing? That was a hoax. Yer man that was shot in the park though, that was drug-related, allegedly.
Was some truth to it was there not? Couple of suicides in Belfast drug related?
Well there wasn't 11 people shot in one night. Although I hear that suicide the other day was drug related. Young fella owed tens of thousands of quid to a gang that was putting pressure on him to pay up. Harassing his family and attacking the house. Awful business.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 18, 2023, 06:46:18 PM
Well there wasn't 11 people shot in one night. Although I hear that suicide the other day was drug related. Young fella owed tens of thousands of quid to a gang that was putting pressure on him to pay up. Harassing his family and attacking the house. Awful business.
Drugs really are a scourge. Anyone selling them should be made say goodbye to their kneecaps.
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 18, 2023, 11:19:54 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 18, 2023, 06:46:18 PM
Well there wasn't 11 people shot in one night. Although I hear that suicide the other day was drug related. Young fella owed tens of thousands of quid to a gang that was putting pressure on him to pay up. Harassing his family and attacking the house. Awful business.
Drugs really are a scourge. Anyone selling them should be made say goodbye to their kneecaps.
Agreed, but so should anybody buying them.
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 19, 2023, 12:25:25 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 18, 2023, 11:19:54 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 18, 2023, 06:46:18 PM
Well there wasn't 11 people shot in one night. Although I hear that suicide the other day was drug related. Young fella owed tens of thousands of quid to a gang that was putting pressure on him to pay up. Harassing his family and attacking the house. Awful business.
Drugs really are a scourge. Anyone selling them should be made say goodbye to their kneecaps.
Agreed, but so should anybody buying them.
That's a lot of kneecappings then!
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 19, 2023, 12:25:25 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 18, 2023, 11:19:54 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 18, 2023, 06:46:18 PM
Well there wasn't 11 people shot in one night. Although I hear that suicide the other day was drug related. Young fella owed tens of thousands of quid to a gang that was putting pressure on him to pay up. Harassing his family and attacking the house. Awful business.
Drugs really are a scourge. Anyone selling them should be made say goodbye to their kneecaps.
Agreed, but so should anybody buying them.
Be a good time to start selling wheelchairs lol
I see hey have rearrested someone last night for the murder .. Hopefully now they have enough evidence on this person to proceed with a conviction
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2023, 11:46:39 AM
I see hey have rearrested someone last night for the murder .. Hopefully now they have enough evidence on this person to proceed with a conviction
Same fella they arrested before Christmas. I'd imagine there'll be some poor coverage for the police if this is the fella who did it (ie. the one in the video evidence that was released) and they've released a murderer onto the streets for 5 or 6 weeks having already had him in.
Maybe this is someone they think knows something. The walk of the person in the video seemed fairly distinctive, wouldn't be hugely difficult to pick him out
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 01, 2023, 01:01:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2023, 11:46:39 AM
I see hey have rearrested someone last night for the murder .. Hopefully now they have enough evidence on this person to proceed with a conviction
Same fella they arrested before Christmas. I'd imagine there'll be some poor coverage for the police if this is the fella who did it (ie. the one in the video evidence that was released) and they've released a murderer onto the streets for 5 or 6 weeks having already had him in.
Maybe this is someone they think knows something. The walk of the person in the video seemed fairly distinctive, wouldn't be hugely difficult to pick him out
If the were confident at the time but no real hard evidence then they would have had to let him go or charge him at the time, no doubt (I hope) he would have been under surveillance
Quote from: take_yer_points on February 01, 2023, 01:01:35 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2023, 11:46:39 AM
I see hey have rearrested someone last night for the murder .. Hopefully now they have enough evidence on this person to proceed with a conviction
Same fella they arrested before Christmas. I'd imagine there'll be some poor coverage for the police if this is the fella who did it (ie. the one in the video evidence that was released) and they've released a murderer onto the streets for 5 or 6 weeks having already had him in.
Maybe this is someone they think knows something. The walk of the person in the video seemed fairly distinctive, wouldn't be hugely difficult to pick him out
Think this too. You'd have to believe the guy in the cctv is the culprit, and he has distinctive build and gait which people would recognise if it was someone she was close to
Hopefully whoever was arrested is either the culprit or is able to help police find the culprit. Please god that poor family get closure soon.
I see the man arrested has been charged
Bloody awful - that poor family :(
So this guy hopefully was watched during the period he was released!!
Which begs the question if he's guilty why would you hang about the place? Would his passport been held at his first arrest?
If they'd enough to hold him on initially they'd have held him.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 09:10:18 AM
So this guy hopefully was watched during the period he was released!!
Which begs the question if he's guilty why would you hang about the place? Would his passport been held at his first arrest?
Time to gather evidence. Ideal world they have enough to begin with. But reality is it can take time to meet the threshold for a charge.
You only hope they have enough and this isn't a way to try and release the growing pressure on the pain to get a result.
Is this guy a cop himself? Lots of rumours flying about and one was that Natalie used to go with a cop who was then doing a bit of stalking.
Quote from: bennydorano on February 02, 2023, 09:59:58 AM
Is this guy a cop himself? Lots of rumours flying about and one was that Natalie used to go with a cop who was then doing a bit of stalking.
Apparently they arrested a cop at one point, not sure if its the fella who's been rearrested though. Who knows it may not even have been true. Just hope they have the right fella now and he can be convicted.
I got sent a screenshot of the FB page of the guy who was apparently charged. Not sure if true or not, but if it is him, he's not a policeman.
Why has he not been named yet?
Think in court atm will be named after that youd think?
Anyone getting that WhatsApp doing the rounds? Huge if true.
Quote from: trailer on February 02, 2023, 11:22:22 AM
Anyone getting that WhatsApp doing the rounds? Huge if true.
Whats the whatsapp?
Quote from: Mourne Red on February 02, 2023, 11:33:56 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 02, 2023, 11:22:22 AM
Anyone getting that WhatsApp doing the rounds? Huge if true.
Whats the whatsapp?
Names the fella and shows him at the rally. Seems to be well known in Journalist circles.....
IF it is him.
I assume he will be named when he appears in court this morning ?
Quote from: Kidder81 on February 02, 2023, 11:41:03 AM
I assume he will be named when he appears in court this morning ?
Allison Morris named him on twitter just now - Stephen McCulla
It would appear that the WhatsApps were correct. Cant imagine how the family are able to get their head round all this. Found it strange that the bf was never named, mentioned or interviewed (by press) in the aftermath - probably because he had been a suspect.
Quote from: general_lee on February 02, 2023, 11:47:05 AM
It would appear that the WhatsApps were correct. Cant imagine how the family are able to get their head round all this. Found it strange that the bf was never named, mentioned or interviewed (by press) in the aftermath - probably because he had been a suspect.
So is he the boyfriend ?
He works at the Belfast Telegraph too, jesus
Go read Alison Morris twitter. It is mental. The fake YouTube live stream alibi and all.
He had a YouTube 'live' entitled The Violent Night on the night of the 18th December. Shows him playing GTA but comments on the video are saying it is clearly prerecorded
Also has a social media post on new years eve saying 2022 was the worst year of his life and we'd have no idea what he went through, saying he'd never be the same again. Has been tweeting steady throughout January
I got the whatsapps last nite and they pretty much stack up.
Was he the boyf or not? If ive found him on the twitter he never mentions her once......
Quote from: smort on February 02, 2023, 11:57:16 AM
He had a YouTube 'live' entitled The Violent Night on the night of the 18th December. Shows him playing GTA but comments on the video are saying it is clearly prerecorded
Also has a social media post on new years eve saying 2022 was the worst year of his life and we'd have no idea what he went through, saying he'd never be the same again. Has been tweeting steady throughout January
It's mental. How did the PSNI miss this?
Quote from: general_lee on February 02, 2023, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: smort on February 02, 2023, 11:57:16 AM
He had a YouTube 'live' entitled The Violent Night on the night of the 18th December. Shows him playing GTA but comments on the video are saying it is clearly prerecorded
Also has a social media post on new years eve saying 2022 was the worst year of his life and we'd have no idea what he went through, saying he'd never be the same again. Has been tweeting steady throughout January
It's mental. How did the PSNI miss this?
Well, they didn't.
He is some nerd, as well as being potentially a murderer
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 02, 2023, 12:02:32 PM
Quote from: general_lee on February 02, 2023, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: smort on February 02, 2023, 11:57:16 AM
He had a YouTube 'live' entitled The Violent Night on the night of the 18th December. Shows him playing GTA but comments on the video are saying it is clearly prerecorded
Also has a social media post on new years eve saying 2022 was the worst year of his life and we'd have no idea what he went through, saying he'd never be the same again. Has been tweeting steady throughout January
It's mental. How did the PSNI miss this?
Well, they didn't.
RedHand can you make sense of Allisons tweet? - "Accused left phone at McNally home, claimed to have forgot it and came back later, phone was recording during that time and recording was found on McCullas device?
Did he leave at the parents house or the victims house? Was he recording their conversations?
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 02, 2023, 12:02:32 PM
Quote from: general_lee on February 02, 2023, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: smort on February 02, 2023, 11:57:16 AM
He had a YouTube 'live' entitled The Violent Night on the night of the 18th December. Shows him playing GTA but comments on the video are saying it is clearly prerecorded
Also has a social media post on new years eve saying 2022 was the worst year of his life and we'd have no idea what he went through, saying he'd never be the same again. Has been tweeting steady throughout January
It's mental. How did the PSNI miss this?
Well, they didn't.
Exactly. He's in court charged with Murder. Difficult to know what else you want them to do.
Quote from: Mourne Red on February 02, 2023, 12:13:35 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 02, 2023, 12:02:32 PM
Quote from: general_lee on February 02, 2023, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: smort on February 02, 2023, 11:57:16 AM
He had a YouTube 'live' entitled The Violent Night on the night of the 18th December. Shows him playing GTA but comments on the video are saying it is clearly prerecorded
Also has a social media post on new years eve saying 2022 was the worst year of his life and we'd have no idea what he went through, saying he'd never be the same again. Has been tweeting steady throughout January
It's mental. How did the PSNI miss this?
Well, they didn't.
RedHand can you make sense of Allisons tweet? - "Accused left phone at McNally home, claimed to have forgot it and came back later, phone was recording during that time and recording was found on McCullas device?
Did he leave at the parents house or the victims house? Was he recording their conversations?
I'm assuming parents house to listen to what they are talking about, I assume the victims home is cordoned off & out of bounds
Quote from: Mourne Red on February 02, 2023, 12:13:35 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 02, 2023, 12:02:32 PM
Quote from: general_lee on February 02, 2023, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: smort on February 02, 2023, 11:57:16 AM
He had a YouTube 'live' entitled The Violent Night on the night of the 18th December. Shows him playing GTA but comments on the video are saying it is clearly prerecorded
Also has a social media post on new years eve saying 2022 was the worst year of his life and we'd have no idea what he went through, saying he'd never be the same again. Has been tweeting steady throughout January
It's mental. How did the PSNI miss this?
Well, they didn't.
RedHand can you make sense of Allisons tweet? - "Accused left phone at McNally home, claimed to have forgot it and came back later, phone was recording during that time and recording was found on McCullas device?
Did he leave at the parents house or the victims house? Was he recording their conversations?
I read it as the parents house, maybe in his capacity as a journalist? I'm not sure.
Could see it interpreted as her house but who would he be recording there?
Does he have any link to her before this?
He tweeted on NYE something to the effect of "this has been such a crap year, I've been through so much".
Have a feeling 2023 will be slightly worse...
They were friends on Facebook and twitter and seem to share a love of Dr Who
Read the tweets from Alison Morris and can't make head nor tail of them.
Is he Natalie's boyfriend/father of child?
Is he a journalist?
seems to be maybe an early-stage relationship to me
going through his facebook, she hadn't liked anything he has posted except for his most recent post, changing his profile pic on 4th December. He posts semi-regularly on there and she hadn't liked any posts apart from this. Would say to me that they had only recently became friends. On that platfrom anyway
Has it been confirmed anywhere he was a journalist?
Digital editor on his fb as opposed to journalist?
Quote from: smort on February 02, 2023, 12:31:34 PM
seems to be maybe an early-stage relationship to me
going through his facebook, she hadn't liked anything he has posted except for his most recent post, changing his profile pic on 4th December. He posts semi-regularly on there and she hadn't liked any posts apart from this. Would say to me that they had only recently became friends. On that platfrom anyway
I think you should be applying for the next draft of PSNI recruits.
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on February 02, 2023, 12:36:55 PM
Digital editor on his fb as opposed to journalist?
For the belfast telegraph?
Quote from: Will it ever end on February 02, 2023, 12:41:14 PM
Quote from: smort on February 02, 2023, 12:31:34 PM
seems to be maybe an early-stage relationship to me
going through his facebook, she hadn't liked anything he has posted except for his most recent post, changing his profile pic on 4th December. He posts semi-regularly on there and she hadn't liked any posts apart from this. Would say to me that they had only recently became friends. On that platfrom anyway
I think you should be applying for the next draft of PSNI recruits.
Good work by smort
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 02, 2023, 12:02:32 PM
Quote from: general_lee on February 02, 2023, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: smort on February 02, 2023, 11:57:16 AM
He had a YouTube 'live' entitled The Violent Night on the night of the 18th December. Shows him playing GTA but comments on the video are saying it is clearly prerecorded
Also has a social media post on new years eve saying 2022 was the worst year of his life and we'd have no idea what he went through, saying he'd never be the same again. Has been tweeting steady throughout January
It's mental. How did the PSNI miss this?
Well, they didn't.
Eh? 6 weeks later they charged him, having initially declared him no longer a suspect. Some major u-turn.
Away for hour and a half and the the shit has it the fan!! Still unsure of the basics here
Is he being charged with the murder or in connection with the murder?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 12:48:46 PM
Away for hour and a half and the the shit has it the fan!! Still unsure of the basics here
Is he being charged with the murder or in connection with the murder?
Charged with murder MR
Quote from: general_lee on February 02, 2023, 12:46:54 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 02, 2023, 12:02:32 PM
Quote from: general_lee on February 02, 2023, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: smort on February 02, 2023, 11:57:16 AM
He had a YouTube 'live' entitled The Violent Night on the night of the 18th December. Shows him playing GTA but comments on the video are saying it is clearly prerecorded
Also has a social media post on new years eve saying 2022 was the worst year of his life and we'd have no idea what he went through, saying he'd never be the same again. Has been tweeting steady throughout January
It's mental. How did the PSNI miss this?
Well, they didn't.
Eh? 6 weeks later they charged him, having initially declared him no longer a suspect. Some major u-turn.
First of all he was never a suspect, he was a person of interest. Since then, other evidence like the phone has come to light and they have chosen the right moment to charge him. You can't just charge people with something like murder based on a hunch!
If we charged every person who posted something like that on NYE the prisons would be overflowing ::)
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 02, 2023, 12:55:09 PM
Quote from: general_lee on February 02, 2023, 12:46:54 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 02, 2023, 12:02:32 PM
Quote from: general_lee on February 02, 2023, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: smort on February 02, 2023, 11:57:16 AM
He had a YouTube 'live' entitled The Violent Night on the night of the 18th December. Shows him playing GTA but comments on the video are saying it is clearly prerecorded
Also has a social media post on new years eve saying 2022 was the worst year of his life and we'd have no idea what he went through, saying he'd never be the same again. Has been tweeting steady throughout January
It's mental. How did the PSNI miss this?
Well, they didn't.
Eh? 6 weeks later they charged him, having initially declared him no longer a suspect. Some major u-turn.
First of all he was never a suspect, he was a person of interest. Since then, other evidence like the phone has come to light and they have chosen the right moment to charge him. You can't just charge people with something like murder based on a hunch!
If we charged every person who posted something like that on NYE the prisons would be overflowing ::)
He was the first person arrested.
I take it, from a little look on his profile, related to the McCulla haulage firm
There's a lad Pickering on his profile page now just throwing in all sorts of comments "murdering bastard" and sticking up links to Belfast live
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
There's a lad Pickering on his profile page now just throwing in all sorts of comments "murdering bastard" and sticking up links to Belfast live
That's smart.... Anything posted on social media can be used by the defence to try and get the case thrown out...
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 02, 2023, 01:12:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
There's a lad Pickering on his profile page now just throwing in all sorts of comments "murdering bastard" and sticking up links to Belfast live
That's smart.... Anything posted on social media can be used by the defence to try and get the case thrown out...
Exactly. Let the law run it's course.
Just immensely sad for the family the whole thing.
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 02, 2023, 01:12:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
There's a lad Pickering on his profile page now just throwing in all sorts of comments "murdering bastard" and sticking up links to Belfast live
That's smart.... Anything posted on social media can be used by the defence to try and get the case thrown out...
That's what's i was thinking.. Though seen the name is actually McCullagh, so probably not McCulla transport
He'd staged a broadcast the night she died to give alibi?
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 02, 2023, 01:13:48 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 02, 2023, 01:12:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
There's a lad Pickering on his profile page now just throwing in all sorts of comments "murdering bastard" and sticking up links to Belfast live
That's smart.... Anything posted on social media can be used by the defence to try and get the case thrown out...
Exactly. Let the law run it's course.
Just immensely sad for the family the whole thing.
Some of those posting on his fb page....like seriously...but then when I see their profiles I'm not really surprised
Quote from: tintin25 on February 02, 2023, 01:18:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 02, 2023, 01:13:48 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 02, 2023, 01:12:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
There's a lad Pickering on his profile page now just throwing in all sorts of comments "murdering bastard" and sticking up links to Belfast live
That's smart.... Anything posted on social media can be used by the defence to try and get the case thrown out...
Exactly. Let the law run it's course.
Just immensely sad for the family the whole thing.
Some of those posting on his fb page....like seriously...but then when I see their profiles I'm not really surprised
Aye cos he's gonna see it, it's the same sort that stand outside the courts kicking the prison van going into court
Quote from: tintin25 on February 02, 2023, 01:18:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 02, 2023, 01:13:48 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 02, 2023, 01:12:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
There's a lad Pickering on his profile page now just throwing in all sorts of comments "murdering bastard" and sticking up links to Belfast live
That's smart.... Anything posted on social media can be used by the defence to try and get the case thrown out...
Exactly. Let the law run it's course.
Just immensely sad for the family the whole thing.
Some of those posting on his fb page....like seriously...but then when I see their profiles I'm not really surprised
The world is full of morons.
Quote from: tintin25 on February 02, 2023, 01:18:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 02, 2023, 01:13:48 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 02, 2023, 01:12:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
There's a lad Pickering on his profile page now just throwing in all sorts of comments "murdering bastard" and sticking up links to Belfast live
That's smart.... Anything posted on social media can be used by the defence to try and get the case thrown out...
Exactly. Let the law run it's course.
Just immensely sad for the family the whole thing.
Some of those posting on his fb page....like seriously...but then when I see their profiles I'm not really surprised
Don't see any posts to his page.
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 02, 2023, 01:12:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
There's a lad Pickering on his profile page now just throwing in all sorts of comments "murdering bastard" and sticking up links to Belfast live
That's smart.... Anything posted on social media can be used by the defence to try and get the case thrown out...
Now why haven't I thought of that. Seriously though comments like that on Facebook very unlikely to taint the jury pool
Quote from: Snapchap on February 02, 2023, 01:34:14 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on February 02, 2023, 01:18:32 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 02, 2023, 01:13:48 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 02, 2023, 01:12:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 01:10:53 PM
There's a lad Pickering on his profile page now just throwing in all sorts of comments "murdering bastard" and sticking up links to Belfast live
That's smart.... Anything posted on social media can be used by the defence to try and get the case thrown out...
Exactly. Let the law run it's course.
Just immensely sad for the family the whole thing.
Some of those posting on his fb page....like seriously...but then when I see their profiles I'm not really surprised
Don't see any posts to his page.
It's the one person doing the posts, Jason Pickering, he's like the illustrated man.. way too nosey
Is he the boyfriend/father of child?
So your man McCullagh "found her body" the next day so obviously had access to the house ? But wouldn't assist police with their enquiries.
Huge investigative job to link him to the murder. It must be a relief to the family.
So basically from what I can gather he'd been recently dating her, so obviously had access to her house, set up an online gaming 'live' video gaming thing with people on it that would have seen him, though during the session it had 'issues' with chatting during it 'technical' issues and this was his alibi.
This was forensically checked and seen to be incorrect. Staged. He'd been at the parents house after the murder and left his phone on purpose to record or hear how the investigation was going and what her parents where thinking, later went back and retrieved it.
If this was the case it's looks like premeditated
Being with the family, comforting them. Christ!
So many murderers know the victim.
Might be wiser to shut this thread down and let the court do its job. I see a lot of warnings today about not commenting online.
Quote from: Sportacus on February 02, 2023, 07:18:33 PM
Might be wiser to shut this thread down and let the court do its job. I see a lot of warnings today about not commenting online.
This was just from the news though
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 07:19:30 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 02, 2023, 07:18:33 PM
Might be wiser to shut this thread down and let the court do its job. I see a lot of warnings today about not commenting online.
This was just from the news though
Fair enough, but just generally it feels like speculation and assumption will come into it.
I think those warnings go to far to be honest. You are perfectly entitled to discuss anything in the public domain. That is anything that has been said in court and isn't banned by law. For example the court may in certain cases impose reporting restrictions. Or by law you can't discuss anything said in court that could lead to the identification of a child defendant, witness, complaint in any trial or a complaint in a sexual case.
For justice to be done it must also be seen to be done. The information disclosed today was wild. The level of sophistication and planning that has allegedly gone into this murder was considerable.
From fake living streams to concocting ways to deliberate contaminate the crime scene so that any evidence linking the defendant to the crime has to be ignored is all very chilling.
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2023, 10:17:46 PM
I think those warnings go to far to be honest. You are perfectly entitled to discuss anything in the public domain. That is anything that has been said in court and isn't banned by law. For example the court may in certain cases impose reporting restrictions. Or by law you can't discuss anything said in court that could lead to the identification of a child defendant, witness, complaint in any trial or a complaint in a sexual case.
For justice to be done it must also be seen to be done. The information disclosed today was wild. The level of sophistication and planning that has allegedly gone into this murder was considerable.
From fake living streams to concocting ways to deliberate contaminate the crime scene so that any evidence linking the defendant to the crime has to be ignored is all very chilling.
The warnings are from the Attorney General's Office. I'm sure they have quite a lot more experience of what can jeopardise a legal conviction that anyone on here.
Quote from: Sportacus on February 02, 2023, 11:03:16 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2023, 10:17:46 PM
I think those warnings go to far to be honest. You are perfectly entitled to discuss anything in the public domain. That is anything that has been said in court and isn't banned by law. For example the court may in certain cases impose reporting restrictions. Or by law you can't discuss anything said in court that could lead to the identification of a child defendant, witness, complaint in any trial or a complaint in a sexual case.
For justice to be done it must also be seen to be done. The information disclosed today was wild. The level of sophistication and planning that has allegedly gone into this murder was considerable.
From fake living streams to concocting ways to deliberate contaminate the crime scene so that any evidence linking the defendant to the crime has to be ignored is all very chilling.
The warnings are from the Attorney General's Office. I'm sure they have quite a lot more experience of what can jeopardise a legal conviction that anyone on here.
To be fair David McKeown knows his stuff
Quote from: Sportacus on February 02, 2023, 11:03:16 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2023, 10:17:46 PM
I think those warnings go to far to be honest. You are perfectly entitled to discuss anything in the public domain. That is anything that has been said in court and isn't banned by law. For example the court may in certain cases impose reporting restrictions. Or by law you can't discuss anything said in court that could lead to the identification of a child defendant, witness, complaint in any trial or a complaint in a sexual case.
For justice to be done it must also be seen to be done. The information disclosed today was wild. The level of sophistication and planning that has allegedly gone into this murder was considerable.
From fake living streams to concocting ways to deliberate contaminate the crime scene so that any evidence linking the defendant to the crime has to be ignored is all very chilling.
The warnings are from the Attorney General's Office. I'm sure they have quite a lot more experience of what can jeopardise a legal conviction that anyone on here.
Apparently comments online can prejudice a jury and can be used to get a mistrial? Not 100% sure.
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 02, 2023, 11:16:07 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 02, 2023, 11:03:16 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2023, 10:17:46 PM
I think those warnings go to far to be honest. You are perfectly entitled to discuss anything in the public domain. That is anything that has been said in court and isn't banned by law. For example the court may in certain cases impose reporting restrictions. Or by law you can't discuss anything said in court that could lead to the identification of a child defendant, witness, complaint in any trial or a complaint in a sexual case.
For justice to be done it must also be seen to be done. The information disclosed today was wild. The level of sophistication and planning that has allegedly gone into this murder was considerable.
From fake living streams to concocting ways to deliberate contaminate the crime scene so that any evidence linking the defendant to the crime has to be ignored is all very chilling.
The warnings are from the Attorney General's Office. I'm sure they have quite a lot more experience of what can jeopardise a legal conviction that anyone on here.
Apparently comments online can prejudice a jury and can be used to get a mistrial? Not 100% sure.
Be better asking someone who knows the law, now let me think....
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2023, 11:17:28 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 02, 2023, 11:16:07 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 02, 2023, 11:03:16 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2023, 10:17:46 PM
I think those warnings go to far to be honest. You are perfectly entitled to discuss anything in the public domain. That is anything that has been said in court and isn't banned by law. For example the court may in certain cases impose reporting restrictions. Or by law you can't discuss anything said in court that could lead to the identification of a child defendant, witness, complaint in any trial or a complaint in a sexual case.
For justice to be done it must also be seen to be done. The information disclosed today was wild. The level of sophistication and planning that has allegedly gone into this murder was considerable.
From fake living streams to concocting ways to deliberate contaminate the crime scene so that any evidence linking the defendant to the crime has to be ignored is all very chilling.
The warnings are from the Attorney General's Office. I'm sure they have quite a lot more experience of what can jeopardise a legal conviction that anyone on here.
Apparently comments online can prejudice a jury and can be used to get a mistrial? Not 100% sure.
Be better asking someone who knows the law, now let me think....
Not you anyway ;)
Just speaking from experience, I know that the big manchester united forums banned any gossip about the Greenwood case, purely to be on the safe side and cover their own ass. Agree with David that the warnings go too far as far as i can tell!
Nothing wrong with discussing a major crime committed so nearby, I'm sure there is more shite being fired out verbally than there is typed online. It's not North Korea we live in.
Unfortunately for this poor family it was their daughter that fell victim to this sick individual. With the level of obvious premeditation its seems to have a matter of when rather than IF this type of crime was going to come from the person involved.
LATEST | Natalie McNally murder probe: 'Doubled-gloved' suspect captured on CCTV in various locations, say police
Police last month returned to the scene at Silverwood Green where Stephen McCullagh (inset) is accused of murdering Natalie McNally.
Police last month returned to the scene at Silverwood Green where Stephen McCullagh (inset) is accused of murdering Natalie McNally.
Allison Morris
Belfast Telegraph
Today at 06:30
A suspect in the Natalie McNally murder investigation left his home on the day of the killing and got a bus to Lurgan, a court has heard.
Details of movements which police believe were taken by Stephen McCullagh on the day in question were outlined at Lisburn Magistrates Court.
It is based on CCTV footage taken in various locations on the bus and in Lurgan.
McCullagh is alleged to have left his home in the Woodland Gardens area of Lisburn on the afternoon of Sunday December 18.
The journey police say the suspect took to and from Natalie's Silverwood Green home was given in detail during a failed bail application by McCullagh (32).
The court was told that a man fitting the description of the suspect is seen walking from the Lisburn direction towards a bus stop at Kingsway, Dunmurry, where he waits for 15 minutes.
The man has the hood of his coat pulled down and a mask covering his face.
He is carrying a "distinctive" Asda bag for life which police believe contained a black bag later seen on CCTV.
The man drops change getting onto the bus and as he bends to pick it up removes a black glove that shows a yellow glove underneath.
"He is double gloved," Detective Chief Inspector Neil McGuinness told Lisburn Magistrates Court.
A Marigold glove print was found in blood at the scene of Ms McNally's death.
During the journey the man is seen on the bus camera sitting motionless, only once lifting his mask from below to take a drink of Coca Cola, rather than pull it down.
He walks past the town's war memorial and police station, still carrying the Asda bag.
He walks past Lurgan railway station into Lough Road and then is seen at 8.42pm walking past the junction leading to the Silverwood Green development where Natalie lived.
The person disappears out of sight for 10 minutes and then returns, without the bag for life. The person is then seen carrying a black rucksack captured on CCTV at 8.52pm.
It is the police belief that this person enters Natalie's address at Silverwood Green.
He leaves at 9.30pm but has changed clothing, although detectives believe the person — who they contend to be McCullagh — is recognisable by his "distinctive gait".
The suspect is seen again at various points walking along Lough Road, William Street and into Lurgan town centre.
The suspect then approaches a Fonacab taxi that was ordered on the App by a person which is waiting at Fa Joe's Bar.
The driver told police he was booked to take a fare to an address in Lurgan.
However, the person asks to be taken to Lisburn, claiming his mother is ill and there had been a change of plan.
Fonacab then received a call from the person who had booked the taxi, saying his cab had not shown up.
Police believe the person opportunistically took another person's taxi.
The taxi's GPRS tracking showed that the taxi dropped the person outside McCullagh's home at 11.13pm.
Three minutes later McCullagh's mobile phone, which had not been used in over five hours, is swiped open and activated.
The worst part of this now it is unravelling is how pre-meditated it seems to have been. Awful.
You do wonder in this day and age of tech, cameras, DNA identification, media coverage, and so on that people feel that they will out fox the police.
Hopefully the family don't go through a hearing
Some people think they are significantly more clever than they are. You see it everywhere.
You can now see why it took the length of time it did to nab the guy.
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2023, 10:17:46 PM
I think those warnings go to far to be honest. You are perfectly entitled to discuss anything in the public domain. That is anything that has been said in court and isn't banned by law. For example the court may in certain cases impose reporting restrictions. Or by law you can't discuss anything said in court that could lead to the identification of a child defendant, witness, complaint in any trial or a complaint in a sexual case.
For justice to be done it must also be seen to be done. The information disclosed today was wild. The level of sophistication and planning that has allegedly gone into this murder was considerable.
From fake living streams to concocting ways to deliberate contaminate the crime scene so that any evidence linking the defendant to the crime has to be ignored is all very chilling.
What was the deliberate contaminating the crime scene actions? I don't think I read about that in the reports.
Someone posted that a near identical plot was used on a CSI episode couple years back. Laddo thinkin he could pull off the perfect crime eh
Quote from: Smokin Joe on February 03, 2023, 09:31:16 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2023, 10:17:46 PM
I think those warnings go to far to be honest. You are perfectly entitled to discuss anything in the public domain. That is anything that has been said in court and isn't banned by law. For example the court may in certain cases impose reporting restrictions. Or by law you can't discuss anything said in court that could lead to the identification of a child defendant, witness, complaint in any trial or a complaint in a sexual case.
For justice to be done it must also be seen to be done. The information disclosed today was wild. The level of sophistication and planning that has allegedly gone into this murder was considerable.
From fake living streams to concocting ways to deliberate contaminate the crime scene so that any evidence linking the defendant to the crime has to be ignored is all very chilling.
What was the deliberate contaminating the crime scene actions? I don't think I read about that in the reports.
Think that was letting her cats and dog run round the place. Could be wrong
Quote from: Kidder81 on February 03, 2023, 09:49:23 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on February 03, 2023, 09:31:16 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2023, 10:17:46 PM
I think those warnings go to far to be honest. You are perfectly entitled to discuss anything in the public domain. That is anything that has been said in court and isn't banned by law. For example the court may in certain cases impose reporting restrictions. Or by law you can't discuss anything said in court that could lead to the identification of a child defendant, witness, complaint in any trial or a complaint in a sexual case.
For justice to be done it must also be seen to be done. The information disclosed today was wild. The level of sophistication and planning that has allegedly gone into this murder was considerable.
From fake living streams to concocting ways to deliberate contaminate the crime scene so that any evidence linking the defendant to the crime has to be ignored is all very chilling.
What was the deliberate contaminating the crime scene actions? I don't think I read about that in the reports.
Think that was letting her cats and dog run round the place. Could be wrong
In the report he was the one that found her so he'd have been in the house at that point!
Its chilling, hopefully he hasn't done this elsewhere and well done to the detectives on this case
A high percentage of femicides are carried out by men known to the victim. He was suspect no. 1 but he had an alibi.
When the investigation drew up a blank the police had to test his alibi. This is a job well done. It's so important to bring perpetrators to trial.
So hes not the boyfriend then?
Make the hair on the back of your neck stand reading that.
God love her and her family!
Where did you read that Walter? This whole thing is completely bonkers. Well tbh one person in it is completely bonkers. Utter madness. I wonder how he was with family etc. Completely insane.
Also you still wonder will they be able to pin it on this guy :(
Quote from: Sportacus on February 02, 2023, 11:03:16 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2023, 10:17:46 PM
I think those warnings go to far to be honest. You are perfectly entitled to discuss anything in the public domain. That is anything that has been said in court and isn't banned by law. For example the court may in certain cases impose reporting restrictions. Or by law you can't discuss anything said in court that could lead to the identification of a child defendant, witness, complaint in any trial or a complaint in a sexual case.
For justice to be done it must also be seen to be done. The information disclosed today was wild. The level of sophistication and planning that has allegedly gone into this murder was considerable.
From fake living streams to concocting ways to deliberate contaminate the crime scene so that any evidence linking the defendant to the crime has to be ignored is all very chilling.
The warnings are from the Attorney General's Office. I'm sure they have quite a lot more experience of what can jeopardise a legal conviction that anyone on here.
Yes I read the guidance from the English Attorney General's Office I'm not convinced it will all be applicable here.
Do such warnings also apply pre trial ?
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 03, 2023, 11:57:28 AM
Where did you read that Walter? This whole thing is completely bonkers. Well tbh one person in it is completely bonkers. Utter madness. I wonder how he was with family etc. Completely insane.
Also you still wonder will they be able to pin it on this guy :(
Sorry lad I typed that wrong. Was referring to that article truth hurts posted as scary!
Dunno if he was a bf or not.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 03, 2023, 12:26:27 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 03, 2023, 11:57:28 AM
Where did you read that Walter? This whole thing is completely bonkers. Well tbh one person in it is completely bonkers. Utter madness. I wonder how he was with family etc. Completely insane.
Also you still wonder will they be able to pin it on this guy :(
Sorry lad I typed that wrong. Was referring to that article truth hurts posted as scary!
Dunno if he was a bf or not.
Bel Tel said he met the parents twice.
Recorded from his phone in their house for 40 minutes. Reckoning to see if they suspected him or not.
It's heartbreaking reading this story in the press.
I wonder what do his 27,000 followers think of him?
Quote from: Orior on February 03, 2023, 01:54:55 PM
It's heartbreaking reading this story in the press.
I wonder what do his 27,000 followers think of him?
Not much , judging by youtube.
I think the murder of a pregnant woman is the worst aspect.
The "livestream" video is still up. I watched a bit based on a comment at 3h12min he says the victims name in a really sinister way, laughs and then sips his drink. Chilling.
He's obviously a gamer
Surely the more someone spends in games (driving , shoot-up games etc) the more that sort of reality becomes normal in their real life? If you go around shooting characters on a screen , would it not increase the likelihood of them doing similar in real life?
Dealing with a very deranged person here. You would only hope that assuming that he is the person who did this they have enough to put him away for a very very long time.
Quote from: AustinPowers on February 03, 2023, 03:01:20 PM
He's obviously a gamer
Surely the more someone spends in games (driving , shoot-up games etc) the more that sort of reality becomes normal in their real life? If you go around shooting characters on a screen , would it not increase the likelihood of them doing similar in real life?
Played a lot of Fortnite and Call of Duty over lockdown and growing up - Never once did it cross my mind to get a pickaxe and I could build a fort or I could go out and shoot someone like it's Team Deathmatch - People like him are just sick in the head
I watched some of the "alibi" livestream. Immediately got the vibe that he was unhinged. I had already been fed some info around this investigation before the court appearance so checked the guy out on social media. I remember reading somewhere about the link between men who take loads of selfies and the chance that they're more likely to display psychopathic characteristics. His Facebook profile pictures are all either selfies of photos of just himself. Red flag. The Freudian slip is chilling alright.
A grown man who spends his time playing video games and playing with toys is never a great start
Quote from: general_lee on February 03, 2023, 03:54:37 PM
I watched some of the "alibi" livestream. Immediately got the vibe that he was unhinged. I had already been fed some info around this investigation before the court appearance so checked the guy out on social media. I remember reading somewhere about the link between men who take loads of selfies and the chance that they're more likely to display psychopathic characteristics. His Facebook profile pictures are all either selfies of photos of just himself. Red flag. The Freudian slip is chilling alright.
Is there a link to this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1KeSw_4vjc
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 03, 2023, 04:45:19 PM
Quote from: general_lee on February 03, 2023, 03:54:37 PM
I watched some of the "alibi" livestream. Immediately got the vibe that he was unhinged. I had already been fed some info around this investigation before the court appearance so checked the guy out on social media. I remember reading somewhere about the link between men who take loads of selfies and the chance that they're more likely to display psychopathic characteristics. His Facebook profile pictures are all either selfies of photos of just himself. Red flag. The Freudian slip is chilling alright.
Is there a link to this video?
Scrap that. Watched it at 3:12. Weird guy
Anger at 3hrs 34 mins and 10 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1KeSw_4vjc
Check out the Youtube comments
eg
Marky Waddy
6 hours ago (edited)
3:56:39 Screaming "I will kill you all" 😳. So much anger if you watch the whole stream.
I'm going to say it again, and I'm no legal expert, but are we risking contempt of court with this thread, E.g. commenting on a persons character is highlighted by the Attorney Generals Office as a risk. Why not just shut it down and let the court case take its course. I'm pretty sure that's the best way to support the family. There'll be plenty of other places where it'll be poured over, but GAA Board should avoid in my opinion.
Quote from: Sportacus on February 03, 2023, 05:03:07 PM
I'm going to say it again, and I'm no legal expert, but are we risking contempt of court with this thread, E.g. commenting on a persons character is highlighted by the Attorney Generals Office as a risk. Why not just shut it down and let the court case take its course. I'm pretty sure that's the best way to support the family. There'll be plenty of other places where it'll be poured over, but GAA Board should avoid in my opinion.
If the board got through the Paddy Jackson thread without contempt of court we'll be fine here
Quote from: Sportacus on February 03, 2023, 05:03:07 PM
I'm going to say it again, and I'm no legal expert, but are we risking contempt of court with this thread, E.g. commenting on a persons character is highlighted by the Attorney Generals Office as a risk. Why not just shut it down and let the court case take its course. I'm pretty sure that's the best way to support the family. There'll be plenty of other places where it'll be poured over, but GAA Board should avoid in my opinion.
I dont think so, I certainly cant see any legal basis how we would be
Ok, I'm no expert, will leave it to those on here who know their stuff legally, but I did notice a warning not to refer to a defendants character. Seems like one to be careful about.
You cant help but think if this case was in the states Netflix would be all over it already.
Quote from: Sportacus on February 03, 2023, 05:34:21 PM
Ok, I'm no expert, will leave it to those on here who know their stuff legally, but I did notice a warning not to refer to a defendants character. Seems like one to be careful about.
The reason people are encouraged not to discuss ongoing cases on social media is essentially a simple one. The trier of fact should decide all evidence based solely on the admissible evidence presented at trial. The concern is that if a juror has a knowledge of matters not in evidence it may sway their decision. Judges when sitting as a trier of fact are assumed to have the requisite legal knowledge to know how to put any inadmissible evidence out of their mind.
That said it doesn't make it a crime to discuss an ongoing case on social media particularly if it's limited to the information that's already in the public domain. With some exceptions that means it's perfectly fine to discuss anything discussed in court.
The most troubling inadmissible evidence juries could hear is bad character evidence so it's crucial they avoid that.
All that said the onus is on jurors to avoid the information. And it is jurors who could face sanction if they fail to disclose anything they know about a case or anyone involved.
Discussions of live cases only really would become a problem if the jury pool became so contaminated that a jury couldn't be assembled of 12 peers with no prior knowledge. Even in our small jurisdiction that would be extremely unusual and if it did arise we can if certain conditions are met have non jury trials. The scope for moving trials or holding non jury trials is far narrower in England so they have different rules.
Will there be a jury on this one? What's the criteria for a jury trial; is it just for the really serious stuff like this? Juries are used left right and centre here in the states but I hear they're used less frequently in the UK.
Quote from: David McKeown on February 03, 2023, 05:56:29 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 03, 2023, 05:34:21 PM
Ok, I'm no expert, will leave it to those on here who know their stuff legally, but I did notice a warning not to refer to a defendants character. Seems like one to be careful about.
The reason people are encouraged not to discuss ongoing cases on social media is essentially a simple one. The trier of fact should decide all evidence based solely on the admissible evidence presented at trial. The concern is that if a juror has a knowledge of matters not in evidence it may sway their decision. Judges when sitting as a trier of fact are assumed to have the requisite legal knowledge to know how to put any inadmissible evidence out of their mind.
That said it doesn't make it a crime to discuss an ongoing case on social media particularly if it's limited to the information that's already in the public domain. With some exceptions that means it's perfectly fine to discuss anything discussed in court.
The most troubling inadmissible evidence juries could hear is bad character evidence so it's crucial they avoid that.
All that said the onus is on jurors to avoid the information. And it is jurors who could face sanction if they fail to disclose anything they know about a case or anyone involved.
Discussions of live cases only really would become a problem if the jury pool became so contaminated that a jury couldn't be assembled of 12 peers with no prior knowledge. Even in our small jurisdiction that would be extremely unusual and if it did arise we can if certain conditions are met have non jury trials. The scope for moving trials or holding non jury trials is far narrower in England so they have different rules.
Likely why the main manchester united forum has banned Greenwood discussion. Good to know.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 03, 2023, 06:00:51 PM
Will there be a jury on this one? What's the criteria for a jury trial; is it just for the really serious stuff like this? Juries are used left right and centre here in the states but I hear they're used less frequently in the UK.
Are you actually serious? Jury trials in all cases bar cases where there's likely to be interference with the jury or terrorist related cases....the old fashioned Diplock trials.
If what is in the public is to be believed this is really a sick individual. It's like he has sat watching Criminal Minds or the like and said to himself 'how can I become famous?' I suspect a lot more will actually makes its way into the public about his life. I suspect it will paint a picture of a weird individual
So he was her boyfriend and father of child?
How strong is the evidence really? Can't prove it was him walking from the estate and even if it was him surely that wouldn't be strong enough for a conviction. Is there much disclosure of actual evidence, i.e. DNA etc.?
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 03, 2023, 07:42:31 PM
So he was her boyfriend and father of child?
How strong is the evidence really? Can't prove it was him walking from the estate and even if it was him surely that wouldn't be strong enough for a conviction. Is there much disclosure of actual evidence, i.e. DNA etc.?
I didn't see any mention of him as father of the child.
Wtf was the motive...
Jimmy Nesbitt nailed on to play the cop in the TVversion
Quote from: LC on February 03, 2023, 05:40:36 PM
You cant help but think if this case was in the states Netflix would be all over it already.
It's got a Columbo feel about it.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 03, 2023, 06:00:51 PM
Will there be a jury on this one? What's the criteria for a jury trial; is it just for the really serious stuff like this? Juries are used left right and centre here in the states but I hear they're used less frequently in the UK.
I'd be very surprised if there wasn't. I'm not sure exactly what you are asking but there are two tiers of criminal courts in NI. The Magistrates Court which initially deals with all criminal cases and the crown court which deals only with the most serious of cases. There is no jury in the magistrates court but there are juries in nearly all Crown Court cases. The Director of the PPS can issue a non jury certificate in the Crown Court under certain circumstances. These are rare though except for terrorist related offences and would only be sought in cases that were considered too legally complicated for juries or too risky to have a jury.
Whilst all cases start in the Magistrates Court not all finish there. There are 4 categories of offences. At one end of the scale Indictable only. These are really serious offences like murder, rape, treason etc. and can only be dealt with in the Crown Court. At the other end of the scale is summary only offences. These are the minor offences like speeding and disorderly behaviour. They can only be dealt with in the Magistrates Court. Then we have Hybrid and Indictable triable summarily(I/TS). These can be dealt with in either court. For Hybrid the decision of the PPS. For I/TS both the defendant and the crown must agree to deal with cases in the Magistrates Court otherwise it's dealt with in the Crown.
The maximum sentence in the Magistrates Court is 12 months or less for most offences with some limited exceptions. Because we have legally qualified judges in the Magistrates Court we deal with an awful lot more cases there than they do in England
Quote from: Orior on February 03, 2023, 09:25:31 PM
Quote from: LC on February 03, 2023, 05:40:36 PM
You cant help but think if this case was in the states Netflix would be all over it already.
It's got a Columbo feel about it.
Was thinking the same. The same type of planned behaviour. Very chilling.
Quote from: David McKeown on February 03, 2023, 10:46:26 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on February 03, 2023, 06:00:51 PM
Will there be a jury on this one? What's the criteria for a jury trial; is it just for the really serious stuff like this? Juries are used left right and centre here in the states but I hear they're used less frequently in the UK.
I'd be very surprised if there wasn't. I'm not sure exactly what you are asking but there are two tiers of criminal courts in NI. The Magistrates Court which initially deals with all criminal cases and the crown court which deals only with the most serious of cases. There is no jury in the magistrates court but there are juries in nearly all Crown Court cases. The Director of the PPS can issue a non jury certificate in the Crown Court under certain circumstances. These are rare though except for terrorist related offences and would only be sought in cases that were considered too legally complicated for juries or too risky to have a jury.
Whilst all cases start in the Magistrates Court not all finish there. There are 4 categories of offences. At one end of the scale Indictable only. These are really serious offences like murder, rape, treason etc. and can only be dealt with in the Crown Court. At the other end of the scale is summary only offences. These are the minor offences like speeding and disorderly behaviour. They can only be dealt with in the Magistrates Court. Then we have Hybrid and Indictable triable summarily(I/TS). These can be dealt with in either court. For Hybrid the decision of the PPS. For I/TS both the defendant and the crown must agree to deal with cases in the Magistrates Court otherwise it's dealt with in the Crown.
The maximum sentence in the Magistrates Court is 12 months or less for most offences with some limited exceptions. Because we have legally qualified judges in the Magistrates Court we deal with an awful lot more cases there than they do in England
That answers my question. Very informative. Thank you.
Two others arrested in relation to the McNally case have been released, Suspected accomplices, I suppose, whose involvement may have been unwitting. Nice to see the tribute at the Armagh-Mayo game at the weekend.
Stephen McCullagh, 32, was remanded in custody after appearing before a district judge last Thursday charged with her murder.
Today, police said two men, aged 32 and 46, who had been arrested in the investigation have been released unconditionally.
A spokesperson said the two men are no longer considered to be suspects in the case.
I know I'm hijacking this thread but the missing person was England who has apparently fallen into a river is a strange one too
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 07:24:09 PM
I know I'm hijacking this thread but the missing person was England who has apparently fallen into a river is a strange one too
Heard earlier that there is only 10 minutes that they cant account for her whereabouts now.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 07:24:09 PM
I know I'm hijacking this thread but the missing person was England who has apparently fallen into a river is a strange one too
Husband has to be looked at in it - Jesus something seems very off about him, come out 3/4 times with interviews.. Maybe I've watched too many crime Docs but that's always a suspicious act when they do that
Wife is like a sleuth at the minute !! Watching every report
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 07:30:53 PM
Wife is like a sleuth at the minute !! Watching every report
Aw the women love a good whodunnit
Jeez anyone wondering how social media can influence a case look the Twitter feed up about this poor missing woman. Christ tha nite, Netflix has a lot to answer for !
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 07, 2023, 07:24:09 PM
I know I'm hijacking this thread but the missing person was England who has apparently fallen into a river is a strange one too
any chance you can reference what you're talking about?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-64548395 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-64548395)
This one? It's all over UK news. Seems an odd one.
Find it mad that the diver is spouting so much rubbish too though. As for the husband, if he does interviews he is guilty and if he hides away he is also guilty - can't win.
Found it strange that they seemed to rule out any third party involvement immediately. Small, calm bit of water that surely any half decent swimmer would have got out from.
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 08, 2023, 11:42:02 AM
Find it mad that the diver is spouting so much rubbish too though. As for the husband, if he does interviews he is guilty and if he hides away he is also guilty - can't win.
Found it strange that they seemed to rule out any third party involvement immediately. Small, calm bit of water that surely any half decent swimmer would have got out from.
I was arguing with the wife last night about him, I said he's just the police diver and he was outta sync with the woman officer who was leading the investigation..
The wife wanted to hear his thoughts rather than the actual investigator!!
He's not the police diver, it's a private firm
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 08, 2023, 11:42:02 AM
Find it mad that the diver is spouting so much rubbish too though. As for the husband, if he does interviews he is guilty and if he hides away he is also guilty - can't win.
Found it strange that they seemed to rule out any third party involvement immediately. Small, calm bit of water that surely any half decent swimmer would have got out from.
Haven't really been following it but apparently she was wearing heavy coat etc that would have made it very difficult to get out of the water- add to that the shock of falling in to very cold water or she may have bumped her head- entirely possible she was unable to get out. Although strange how quickly foul play was ruled out
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 08, 2023, 11:47:19 AM
He's not the police diver, it's a private firm
Even more bizarre that he is commentating like that, or being allowed, the cops, like here have been fed up with the keyboard warriors and even people going round outhouses or shed and breaking into them looking for her..
Found it strange the diver was able to speak so freely. I suppose how can they stop him? He made very valid points and will know exactly what is realistic v not realistic. What struck me was it was a very calm stretch of water and apparently people were in the water relatively quickly. Seems to be a very strange and absolutely tragic case.
The diver has had a book published this week so I'd imagine that's the main reason he has been on most news outlets going and speaking so freely.
He is used by the police but think they haven't brought him in this time. You would imagine his slabbering will prevent him being called upon again.
Also, mad that her friends are interfering too, with one putting up a list of 11 points the public should know.
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 08, 2023, 01:19:54 PM
He is used by the police but think they haven't brought him in this time. You would imagine his slabbering will prevent him being called upon again.
Also, mad that her friends are interfering too, with one putting up a list of 11 points the public should know.
Obviously think they are helping
Quote from: square_ball on February 08, 2023, 01:06:27 PM
The diver has had a book published this week so I'd imagine that's the main reason he has been on most news outlets going and speaking so freely.
Divers are weirdos. The Divers involved in the Thai rescue all said so themselves.
She probably isn't in the river. I imagine it will be like the McNally case. Enough data crunching until they get the answer.
Quote from: seafoid on February 08, 2023, 08:33:35 PM
She probably isn't in the river. I imagine it will be like the McNally case. Enough data crunching until they get the answer.
Read earlier that their business went bust recently.
Remember this couple?. Wonder if it will end up being something similar:
https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2022-03-23/who-is-canoe-conman-john-darwin-and-why-did-he-fake-his-own-death
Quote from: clarshack on February 08, 2023, 10:32:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 08, 2023, 08:33:35 PM
She probably isn't in the river. I imagine it will be like the McNally case. Enough data crunching until they get the answer.
Read earlier that their business went bust recently.
Remember this couple?. Wonder if it will end up being something similar:
https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2022-03-23/who-is-canoe-conman-john-darwin-and-why-did-he-fake-his-own-death
It would make you think
Quote from: clarshack on February 08, 2023, 10:32:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 08, 2023, 08:33:35 PM
She probably isn't in the river. I imagine it will be like the McNally case. Enough data crunching until they get the answer.
Read earlier that their business went bust recently.
Remember this couple?. Wonder if it will end up being something similar:
https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2022-03-23/who-is-canoe-conman-john-darwin-and-why-did-he-fake-his-own-death
I'm guessing there is the obligatory Go Fund Me on the go setup by "friends" ?
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 09, 2023, 03:17:09 PM
Quote from: clarshack on February 08, 2023, 10:32:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on February 08, 2023, 08:33:35 PM
She probably isn't in the river. I imagine it will be like the McNally case. Enough data crunching until they get the answer.
Read earlier that their business went bust recently.
Remember this couple?. Wonder if it will end up being something similar:
https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2022-03-23/who-is-canoe-conman-john-darwin-and-why-did-he-fake-his-own-death
I'm guessing there is the obligatory Go Fund Me on the go setup by "friends" ?
There was a go fund me setup by her friend but it's since been deleted.
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 08, 2023, 08:50:09 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-64548395 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-64548395)
This one? It's all over UK news. Seems an odd one.
Thanks - based overseas so it's often hard to follow when ppl are referring to topical stuff like this
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 08, 2023, 12:30:38 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 08, 2023, 11:47:19 AM
He's not the police diver, it's a private firm
Even more bizarre that he is commentating like that, or being allowed, the cops, like here have been fed up with the keyboard warriors and even people going round outhouses or shed and breaking into them looking for her..
Have to say would have been no fan of the PSNI but they seem to have played a blinder on the Natalie McNally case
Murder capital of the North
What's the low down on this one. Allegedly of course
Meant to be a video going about. Haven't seen it thankfully.
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 05, 2023, 11:46:05 PMWhat's the low down on this one. Allegedly of course
the young lad who has been named locally seems to have been in the wrong place at the wrong time
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 06, 2023, 12:13:04 AMMeant to be a video going about. Haven't seen it thankfully.
Video of what? There are a few circulating of the car on fire that night. A few residents have videoed from their homes.
The town is awash with rumours so I'd find it difficult to even comment on what allegedly happened.
What is alleged to have happened? Been some murders in the area over the past 10 to 15 years. Owen Creaney, Steven Carrol PSNI, Laura Marshall, Natalie McNally, Hugh McGeough and wife, Shane Whitla, Malcolm McKeown, David Neill, Marcel Seeley, Andrew Lorimer, Michael McGlennon, Anita Downey, Nathan Gibson and others I've probably missed. Go back 20 years on and you start adding the mad number of trouble related killings into it, including Martin O'Hagan and Rosemary Nelson.
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 06, 2023, 10:02:10 AMWhat is alleged to have happened? Been some murders in the area over the past 10 to 15 years. Owen Creaney, Steven Carrol PSNI, Laura Marshall, Natalie McNally, Hugh McGeough and wife, Shane Whitla, Malcolm McKeown, David Neill, Marcel Seeley, Andrew Lorimer, Michael McGlennon, Anita Downey, Nathan Gibson and others I've probably missed. Go back 20 years on and you start adding the mad number of trouble related killings into it, including Martin O'Hagan and Rosemary Nelson.
a body found in a burnt out car apparently. 3 people arrested.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-67625314
Poor fella :(
That's a seriously long list of people murdered :o
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 06, 2023, 08:52:17 AMQuote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 05, 2023, 11:46:05 PMWhat's the low down on this one. Allegedly of course
the young lad who has been named locally seems to have been in the wrong place at the wrong time
This is what I have heard. There's been the usual flurry of WhatsApps/screenshots doing the rounds before total radio silence. The name I've heard (of the male arrested) doesn't surprise me at all - bad c*nt.
Quote from: general_lee on December 06, 2023, 11:39:13 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on December 06, 2023, 08:52:17 AMQuote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 05, 2023, 11:46:05 PMWhat's the low down on this one. Allegedly of course
the young lad who has been named locally seems to have been in the wrong place at the wrong time
This is what I have heard. There's been the usual flurry of WhatsApps/screenshots doing the rounds before total radio silence. The name I've heard (of the male arrested) doesn't surprise me at all - bad c*nt.
Two women arrested also! They must be lovely!
20 years ago a lot of those lads would have been bumped off before they got to this stage!
The murder of a young man in County Armagh at the weekend is not believed to be linked to organised crime, police have said.
The body of Odhrán Kelly, 23, was found beside a burning car in Maple Court in Lurgan in the early hours of Saturday.
The victim's mother, Jacqui Murray, said her son was taken too soon and her heart is "broken in a million pieces".
In a floral tribute, she described him as her "beautiful boy" adding: "Love you always, Mum and big brother Paul."
Forensic teams and police officers have been at the scene since Sunday and a police cordon is still in place around a block of flats and a nearby green space where a car was found burnt out.
Det Ch Insp Tony Kelly said: ""My thoughts are first and foremost with Mr Kelly's family, who are left trying to come to terms with this terrible loss.
Quote from: JimStynes on December 06, 2023, 12:53:26 PM20 years ago a lot of those lads would have been bumped off before they got to this stage!
Yeah, you have to wonder how they're not already in jail never mind, when you see their previous records.
Quote from: general_lee on December 06, 2023, 04:15:56 PMQuote from: JimStynes on December 06, 2023, 12:53:26 PM20 years ago a lot of those lads would have been bumped off before they got to this stage!
Yeah, you have to wonder how they're not already in jail never mind, when you see their previous records.
Touts half of them.
I once went out with a girl from Lurgan whose brother was murdered I think in the early 90s. His body was found by the railway line. Innocent, harmless lad killed for no reason. I think his killer had already done time and was heard saying in prison "when I get out, I'm going to stiff a fella."
I always found the place to have an underbelly of violence. William St around midnight at the weekend could be the wild west. Cops cowering in the station and afraid to come out, no evidence of any police presence. Every man for himself on the street. Look at someone the wrong way and something could kick off if someone's had enough drink in him and in the wrong mood.
When I lived in England, the streets were crawling with cops. Huge crowds milling around at closing time, buses running late at night to get people home. Always felt safer in Manchester than I did in Lurgan.
I don't think Lurgan is any different to anywhere else when it comes to nightlife. The odd scrap but the same as what you'd get in Newry, Dungannon, Cookstown, Magherafelt etc.
Someone posted earlier a list of murders in the town over the last 10-20 years and they were mostly either drug-related or domestic violence. The others seem to fall into the category of mindless violence, which this latest one also seems to. No real motive other than some sc**bag degenerate off their tits taking their anger out on some unfortunate innocent.
Anyone know if there was a motive or paramilitary involvement
strabane seems peaceful compared to lurgan
does lurgan have a lot of drugs.
Quote from: Eire90 on December 06, 2023, 06:13:09 PMAnyone know if there was a motive or paramilitary involvement
strabane seems peaceful compared to lurgan
does lurgan have a lot of drugs.
No.
Probably is.
Yes.
I grew up in Strabane and live in Lurgan now. Places are polar opposites when it comes to murder and the like.
Strabane, Derry and Letterkenny were like the wild west on weekends. Nothing bad weapon wise, just loads of fights constantly. I actually noticed Lurgan and the like as being quieter on that front, rarely saw fights or rows.
I have only been in lurgan once in my life but know plenty from it. It always had a bad rep for fighting at the weekends. Only worse place rep wise would be Derry I would say. I would know a right few from Derry and very few of them wouldn't have got a serious beating at one stage or another growing up. So lurgan has a rep but so do other places.
Lot of towns like that tbh. Newry, Cookstown, Armagh all be bad enough at times.
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 06, 2023, 06:38:40 PMQuote from: Eire90 on December 06, 2023, 06:13:09 PMAnyone know if there was a motive or paramilitary involvement
strabane seems peaceful compared to lurgan
does lurgan have a lot of drugs.
No.
Probably is.
Yes.
Lurgan has no more drugs than any other town ffs
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 06, 2023, 09:06:49 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 06, 2023, 06:38:40 PMQuote from: Eire90 on December 06, 2023, 06:13:09 PMAnyone know if there was a motive or paramilitary involvement
strabane seems peaceful compared to lurgan
does lurgan have a lot of drugs.
No.
Probably is.
Yes.
Lurgan has no more drugs than any other town ffs
Does Lurgan have a lot of drugs. Answer is certainly yes. Most decent sized towns full of drugs.
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 06, 2023, 08:02:31 PMI grew up in Strabane and live in Lurgan now. Places are polar opposites when it comes to murder and the like.
Strabane, Derry and Letterkenny were like the wild west on weekends. Nothing bad weapon wise, just loads of fights constantly. I actually noticed Lurgan and the like as being quieter on that front, rarely saw fights or rows.
The only thing about letterkenny was that the gardai took no shit so you stepped out of line there good luck to you
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 06, 2023, 09:06:49 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 06, 2023, 06:38:40 PMQuote from: Eire90 on December 06, 2023, 06:13:09 PMAnyone know if there was a motive or paramilitary involvement
strabane seems peaceful compared to lurgan
does lurgan have a lot of drugs.
No.
Probably is.
Yes.
Lurgan has no more drugs than any other town ffs
I'll eat my hat if at least one of the two males arrested isn't a drug dealer
How come two women have been charged for assisting but nobody for murder. Is it a case of two boys each saying he did it ..
Been a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.
That kinda reads like the Lurgan drug problem is the fault of the Guards.
Quote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.
I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately. There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me. You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that.
I agree in part to your Ra statement. These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them.
On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town. Areas you wouldn't venture into etc.
I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AMQuote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.
I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately. There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me. You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that.
I agree in part to your Ra statement. These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them.
On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town. Areas you wouldn't venture into etc.
I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.
where would you not venture into in Lurgan other than hardcore loyalist areas if you're Catholic?
I was born here and brought up here. I lived in England for 14 years, mostly in Manchester. As much as I loved Manchester, not London though, I always missed Lurgan. Can it be rough at times? Sure can but no more or less than any other town in the North
Quote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.
Unfortunately I believe this isn't confined to towns or cities, it's very much in the rural communities too. I'd be like yourself and green to it all when you hear about such and such and you'd be taken aback.
Thankfully something i've never got involved in, bad enough dealing with alcohol and it's a legalised "drug"!
I wouldn't know a drug if it was sitting in front of me - am I really in the minority?
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 07, 2023, 11:55:21 AMQuote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AMQuote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.
I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately. There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me. You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that.
I agree in part to your Ra statement. These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them.
On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town. Areas you wouldn't venture into etc.
I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.
where would you not venture into in Lurgan other than hardcore loyalist areas if you're Catholic?
I was born here and brought up here. I lived in England for 14 years, mostly in Manchester. As much as I loved Manchester, not London though, I always missed Lurgan. Can it be rough at times? Sure can but no more or less than any other town in the North
I suppose I am making generalizations on where and where you wouldn't go, every big town has areas where trouble is more rife than others, religion not being a factor.
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 12:16:52 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on December 07, 2023, 11:55:21 AMQuote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AMQuote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.
I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately. There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me. You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that.
I agree in part to your Ra statement. These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them.
On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town. Areas you wouldn't venture into etc.
I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.
where would you not venture into in Lurgan other than hardcore loyalist areas if you're Catholic?
I was born here and brought up here. I lived in England for 14 years, mostly in Manchester. As much as I loved Manchester, not London though, I always missed Lurgan. Can it be rough at times? Sure can but no more or less than any other town in the North
I suppose I am making generalizations on where and where you wouldn't go, every big town has areas where trouble is more rife than others, religion not being a factor.
there is generally nowhere in Lurgan I wouldnt go in to other than parts of mourneview for obvious reasons
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 07, 2023, 01:09:16 PMQuote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 12:16:52 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on December 07, 2023, 11:55:21 AMQuote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AMQuote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.
I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately. There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me. You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that.
I agree in part to your Ra statement. These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them.
On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town. Areas you wouldn't venture into etc.
I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.
where would you not venture into in Lurgan other than hardcore loyalist areas if you're Catholic?
I was born here and brought up here. I lived in England for 14 years, mostly in Manchester. As much as I loved Manchester, not London though, I always missed Lurgan. Can it be rough at times? Sure can but no more or less than any other town in the North
I suppose I am making generalizations on where and where you wouldn't go, every big town has areas where trouble is more rife than others, religion not being a factor.
there is generally nowhere in Lurgan I wouldnt go in to other than parts of mourneview for obvious reasons
Around Shankill is a shit hole. Those flats in Taghnevan has a few bad boys in them too! Complete kip.
Up around the Shore Road and Tannaghmore school etc is a nice place.
I'm a newbie to the place.
I walk through Kilwilkie regularly (live up near the old St Michael's school) and never once felt unsafe. I walked down to Victoria Street yesterday to get my car fixed - it is a wee bit different and I wouldn't want to be walking down there on my own late at night.
Quote from: JimStynes on December 07, 2023, 01:18:42 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on December 07, 2023, 01:09:16 PMQuote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 12:16:52 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on December 07, 2023, 11:55:21 AMQuote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AMQuote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.
I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately. There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me. You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that.
I agree in part to your Ra statement. These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them.
On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town. Areas you wouldn't venture into etc.
I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.
where would you not venture into in Lurgan other than hardcore loyalist areas if you're Catholic?
I was born here and brought up here. I lived in England for 14 years, mostly in Manchester. As much as I loved Manchester, not London though, I always missed Lurgan. Can it be rough at times? Sure can but no more or less than any other town in the North
I suppose I am making generalizations on where and where you wouldn't go, every big town has areas where trouble is more rife than others, religion not being a factor.
there is generally nowhere in Lurgan I wouldnt go in to other than parts of mourneview for obvious reasons
Around Shankill is a shit hole. Those flats in Taghnevan has a few bad boys in them too! Complete kip.
Up around the Shore Road and Tannaghmore school etc is a nice place.
Nonsense. I walk round it at night and have done all of my life; never felt unsafe.
There is a dark underbelly in Lurgan that is not confined to one particular area. The vast majority of residents are great people. I'd say the same things could be said about many large towns.
is there a nightclub or big pub scene in lurgan is that where the fights are.
Quote from: general_lee on December 07, 2023, 09:44:06 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on December 06, 2023, 09:06:49 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 06, 2023, 06:38:40 PMQuote from: Eire90 on December 06, 2023, 06:13:09 PMAnyone know if there was a motive or paramilitary involvement
strabane seems peaceful compared to lurgan
does lurgan have a lot of drugs.
No.
Probably is.
Yes.
Lurgan has no more drugs than any other town ffs
I'll eat my hat if at least one of the two males arrested isn't a drug dealer
Was there a second male? Seen there was a man and 2 women arrested
Is the murder drug related
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AMQuote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.
I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately. There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me. You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that.
I agree in part to your Ra statement. These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them.
On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town. Areas you wouldn't venture into etc.
I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.
One of our camogs is an addiction nurse based in Belfast and I'd got talking to her recently at a play park of all places and she was telling me cocaine is absolutely rife in the North.
It's the drug of choice for a lot of young ones on a night out as you don't put on weight with it (boys and girls she says) and there's no hangover the next day so you can go about your business as normal...
Scary considering what shit they put into it.
Quote from: johnnycool on December 07, 2023, 04:33:39 PMQuote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AMQuote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.
I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately. There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me. You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that.
I agree in part to your Ra statement. These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them.
On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town. Areas you wouldn't venture into etc.
I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.
One of our camogs is an addiction nurse based in Belfast and I'd got talking to her recently at a play park of all places and she was telling me cocaine is absolutely rife in the North.
It's the drug of choice for a lot of young ones on a night out as you don't put on weight with it (boys and girls she says) and there's no hangover the next day so you can go about your business as normal...
Scary considering what shit they put into it.
Been discussed on here plenty of times before. Probably near be in a minority now if you aren't on coke. Plenty of wasters spending their days smoking grass too. Few boys separated from their kneecaps would go a long way to helping.
Lurgan is no different than most urban areas, apart from the fact it's full of Spades! Only kidding of course. Through football and work would have been in Lurgan many times. Footballers have the typical North Armagh thing going on but that's just a bit of craic.
As for drugs they are everywhere, absolutely everywhere. Would be out regular enough at gigs and events and while drink is always a plenty there's a serious amount of stuff being sniffed. Thankfully not in my direct circle but I was beside a table of ones the other night, the 'lovely people' and there was some amount of toing and froing to the toilets!
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 07, 2023, 04:47:39 PMLurgan is no different than most urban areas, apart from the fact it's full of Spades! Only kidding of course. Through football and work would have been in Lurgan many times. Footballers have the typical North Armagh thing going on but that's just a bit of craic.
As for drugs they are everywhere, absolutely everywhere. Would be out regular enough at gigs and events and while drink is always a plenty there's a serious amount of stuff being sniffed. Thankfully not in my direct circle but I was beside a table of ones the other night, the 'lovely people' and there was some amount of toing and froing to the toilets!
I remember when you'd wear a tie to go to the Arena, taking the bus down from Lurgan. There were two buses would go from the Cellar Lounge every Saturday night. Went back a few years later and it was all shirtless lads blowing whistles, open drug dealing in the car park outside. A mate went to the bar and asked for a bottle of beer and the bar girl looked at him like he wasn't a bit wise. It was almost exclusively bottled water they were selling for the Ecstasy crowd.
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 07, 2023, 04:04:07 PMQuote from: general_lee on December 07, 2023, 09:44:06 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on December 06, 2023, 09:06:49 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on December 06, 2023, 06:38:40 PMQuote from: Eire90 on December 06, 2023, 06:13:09 PMAnyone know if there was a motive or paramilitary involvement
strabane seems peaceful compared to lurgan
does lurgan have a lot of drugs.
No.
Probably is.
Yes.
Lurgan has no more drugs than any other town ffs
I'll eat my hat if at least one of the two males arrested isn't a drug dealer
Was there a second male? Seen there was a man and 2 women arrested
Second 31 year old arrested. Two women charged with assisting an offender. I've heard two names regarding the males and they're both tramps.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on December 07, 2023, 06:13:25 PMQuote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 07, 2023, 04:47:39 PMLurgan is no different than most urban areas, apart from the fact it's full of Spades! Only kidding of course. Through football and work would have been in Lurgan many times. Footballers have the typical North Armagh thing going on but that's just a bit of craic.
As for drugs they are everywhere, absolutely everywhere. Would be out regular enough at gigs and events and while drink is always a plenty there's a serious amount of stuff being sniffed. Thankfully not in my direct circle but I was beside a table of ones the other night, the 'lovely people' and there was some amount of toing and froing to the toilets!
I remember when you'd wear a tie to go to the Arena, taking the bus down from Lurgan. There were two buses would go from the Cellar Lounge every Saturday night. Went back a few years later and it was all shirtless lads blowing whistles, open drug dealing in the car park outside. A mate went to the bar and asked for a bottle of beer and the bar girl looked at him like he wasn't a bit wise. It was almost exclusively bottled water they were selling for the Ecstasy crowd.
Ye wore a tie to the Arena?! The ecstasy was flyin in the mid 90s across all of those Arena type nightclubs.
Quote from: Sportacus on December 07, 2023, 12:12:01 PMI wouldn't know a drug if it was sitting in front of me - am I really in the minority?
Strange that nobody has replied to this. Am I reading too much into that?
In all seriousness though, you/we probably are in the minority . I'm not out out much these days to really see what's going on , and if I am, I'm not exactly looking for any drugs , nor am I noticing or interested in who's taking what.
I suppose if I sit and think about family, friends, cousins, neighbours, colleagues etc , the odds are that some of them have tried coke or take it regularly. If that's the case , (and it's not unlikely that is the case) , then it's a hell of a lot closer than I imagine . Which is actually pretty scary
Quote from: Puckoon on December 07, 2023, 06:40:49 PMQuote from: Eamonnca1 on December 07, 2023, 06:13:25 PMQuote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 07, 2023, 04:47:39 PMLurgan is no different than most urban areas, apart from the fact it's full of Spades! Only kidding of course. Through football and work would have been in Lurgan many times. Footballers have the typical North Armagh thing going on but that's just a bit of craic.
As for drugs they are everywhere, absolutely everywhere. Would be out regular enough at gigs and events and while drink is always a plenty there's a serious amount of stuff being sniffed. Thankfully not in my direct circle but I was beside a table of ones the other night, the 'lovely people' and there was some amount of toing and froing to the toilets!
I remember when you'd wear a tie to go to the Arena, taking the bus down from Lurgan. There were two buses would go from the Cellar Lounge every Saturday night. Went back a few years later and it was all shirtless lads blowing whistles, open drug dealing in the car park outside. A mate went to the bar and asked for a bottle of beer and the bar girl looked at him like he wasn't a bit wise. It was almost exclusively bottled water they were selling for the Ecstasy crowd.
Ye wore a tie to the Arena?! The ecstasy was flyin in the mid 90s across all of those Arena type nightclubs.
Thursday night on the Arena was different gravy! They also used to have a guy on Friday nights on and off who was a sword swallower!
Quote from: AustinPowers on December 07, 2023, 07:04:05 PMQuote from: Sportacus on December 07, 2023, 12:12:01 PMI wouldn't know a drug if it was sitting in front of me - am I really in the minority?
Strange that nobody has replied to this. Am I reading too much into that?
In all seriousness though, you/we probably are in the minority . I'm not out out much these days to really see what's going on , and if I am, I'm not exactly looking for any drugs , nor am I noticing or interested in who's taking what.
I suppose if I sit and think about family, friends, cousins, neighbours, colleagues etc , the odds are that some of them have tried coke or take it regularly. If that's the case , (and it's not unlikely that is the case) , then it's a hell of a lot closer than I imagine . Which is actually pretty scary
I've never taken it and never will.
Who knows what that sh*t is laced with.
A few beers or a couple glasses of red wine is plenty for me.
Quote from: clarshack on December 07, 2023, 07:57:14 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on December 07, 2023, 07:04:05 PMQuote from: Sportacus on December 07, 2023, 12:12:01 PMI wouldn't know a drug if it was sitting in front of me - am I really in the minority?
Strange that nobody has replied to this. Am I reading too much into that?
In all seriousness though, you/we probably are in the minority . I'm not out out much these days to really see what's going on , and if I am, I'm not exactly looking for any drugs , nor am I noticing or interested in who's taking what.
I suppose if I sit and think about family, friends, cousins, neighbours, colleagues etc , the odds are that some of them have tried coke or take it regularly. If that's the case , (and it's not unlikely that is the case) , then it's a hell of a lot closer than I imagine . Which is actually pretty scary
I've never taken it and never will.
Who knows what that sh*t is laced with.
A few beers or a couple glasses of red wine is plenty for me.
Different generation now. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole, but I know for sure a good chunk of young ones do it regularly. Plenty of ones you wouldn't expect as well in the 40+ mark in my experience.
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 07, 2023, 07:18:33 PMQuote from: Puckoon on December 07, 2023, 06:40:49 PMQuote from: Eamonnca1 on December 07, 2023, 06:13:25 PMQuote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 07, 2023, 04:47:39 PMLurgan is no different than most urban areas, apart from the fact it's full of Spades! Only kidding of course. Through football and work would have been in Lurgan many times. Footballers have the typical North Armagh thing going on but that's just a bit of craic.
As for drugs they are everywhere, absolutely everywhere. Would be out regular enough at gigs and events and while drink is always a plenty there's a serious amount of stuff being sniffed. Thankfully not in my direct circle but I was beside a table of ones the other night, the 'lovely people' and there was some amount of toing and froing to the toilets!
I remember when you'd wear a tie to go to the Arena, taking the bus down from Lurgan. There were two buses would go from the Cellar Lounge every Saturday night. Went back a few years later and it was all shirtless lads blowing whistles, open drug dealing in the car park outside. A mate went to the bar and asked for a bottle of beer and the bar girl looked at him like he wasn't a bit wise. It was almost exclusively bottled water they were selling for the Ecstasy crowd.
Ye wore a tie to the Arena?! The ecstasy was flyin in the mid 90s across all of those Arena type nightclubs.
Thursday night on the Arena was different gravy! They also used to have a guy on Friday nights on and off who was a sword swallower!
I can remember the Saturday nights when you had to wear a shirt snd dress trousersQuote from: Puckoon on December 07, 2023, 06:40:49 PMQuote from: Eamonnca1 on December 07, 2023, 06:13:25 PMQuote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 07, 2023, 04:47:39 PMLurgan is no different than most urban areas, apart from the fact it's full of Spades! Only kidding of course. Through football and work would have been in Lurgan many times. Footballers have the typical North Armagh thing going on but that's just a bit of craic.
As for drugs they are everywhere, absolutely everywhere. Would be out regular enough at gigs and events and while drink is always a plenty there's a serious amount of stuff being sniffed. Thankfully not in my direct circle but I was beside a table of ones the other night, the 'lovely people' and there was some amount of toing and froing to the toilets!
I remember when you'd wear a tie to go to the Arena, taking the bus down from Lurgan. There were two buses would go from the Cellar Lounge every Saturday night. Went back a few years later and it was all shirtless lads blowing whistles, open drug dealing in the car park outside. A mate went to the bar and asked for a bottle of beer and the bar girl looked at him like he wasn't a bit wise. It was almost exclusively bottled water they were selling for the Ecstasy crowd.
Ye wore a tie to the Arena?! The ecstasy was flyin in the mid 90s across all of those Arena type nightclubs.
I can remember the Saturday nights when you had to wear a shirt and dress trousers, it morphed into the rave scene quite quickly, I actually remember being in it in my dress trousers and it flat out rave - not realising it had changed! I was back for the rave nights many a time after that tho. Still love the hard techno
Drugs wouldn't be my thing but I do like dance music. Always remember being at electric picnic and seeing underworld playing born slippy. It was fantastic but I remember looking round me thinking I am probably in the minority here not being someone pulled off their face!
Not hard German techno!!
Vico's on a Saturday night four floors four separate sounds!
Remember that change at the Arena, normal attire one weekend the next it was twisted faces, vics galore and random people trying to massage your back ;D
Quote from: lurganblue on December 07, 2023, 03:35:06 PMQuote from: JimStynes on December 07, 2023, 01:18:42 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on December 07, 2023, 01:09:16 PMQuote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 12:16:52 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on December 07, 2023, 11:55:21 AMQuote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 07, 2023, 11:52:39 AMQuote from: illdecide on December 07, 2023, 10:09:47 AMBeen a Lurgan man all my life, it has its downsides surely but has some great positives too. It's no different to any other town, it has it's fights and it's anti-social behaviour but the drugs thing is a real problem. this drug thing is not just for Lurgan, the whole country is awash with Cocaine and other substances. I had a conversation last night with one of the top trainers in the GAA circles and he told me you'd be astonished by the people who take Cocaine, County players, club players, professionals, basically all walks of life and he said it's not just weekends either. I have heard all the stories about it and maybe i'm a wee bit green when it comes to things like that. The thing that goes on now is not sectarian as these drug dealers are from both communities and religion would very rarely come into it, it's all about the drugs and money and I've no doubt the source is all coming from Dublin. To stop all this you need to cut the head of the snake and we all know who the snake is...This is the only aspect i miss the Ra for, these Dublin cartels may well have been eliminated many years ago before they got to the "untouchable" stage.
I think the issue now is that you are in the minority if you are not taking drugs unfortunately. There is a casualness to it that is unfathomable to me. You cut the head off the snake and another will fill the gap, supply and demand and all that.
I agree in part to your Ra statement. These cartels have grown to a level that is above policing, a slap on the wrist or a few years in jail is not deterrent to them.
On Lurgan, I have been many times and it's no rougher than any other big town. Areas you wouldn't venture into etc.
I have worked with Lurgan people professionally and within the GAA and I find them very respectful and good natured to be honest.
where would you not venture into in Lurgan other than hardcore loyalist areas if you're Catholic?
I was born here and brought up here. I lived in England for 14 years, mostly in Manchester. As much as I loved Manchester, not London though, I always missed Lurgan. Can it be rough at times? Sure can but no more or less than any other town in the North
I suppose I am making generalizations on where and where you wouldn't go, every big town has areas where trouble is more rife than others, religion not being a factor.
there is generally nowhere in Lurgan I wouldnt go in to other than parts of mourneview for obvious reasons
Around Shankill is a shit hole. Those flats in Taghnevan has a few bad boys in them too! Complete kip.
Up around the Shore Road and Tannaghmore school etc is a nice place.
Nonsense. I walk round it at night and have done all of my life; never felt unsafe.
There is a dark underbelly in Lurgan that is not confined to one particular area. The vast majority of residents are great people. I'd say the same things could be said about many large towns.
I have walked through Shankill right from the St Paul's days as a pupil right up to now when I walk my dog there regularly. I do that loop up around silverwood and Shankill is the biggest Kip by a mile. I know plenty of life long shankill people who will tell you the exact same. This past 10 years it's got a lot of scumbags moving into it, especially around those flats and the part closest to William Street. Although some will same that isn't actually Shankill ::) I worked with a girl who lives in Shankill with her family and is dying looking out of it because of the undesirables around the place. I have never felt worried walking about any area of Lurgan but I'd say a lot of females wouldn't fancy walking through Shankill, Taghnaven, Victoria Street etc by themselves at night! Kilwilkie is now one of the quieter areas ffs.
The other side of it is, I feel lurgan has a lot going for it. Rushmere, good sports facilities (golf, gaa, soccer, tennis, swimming, gyms), Cinema, restaurants etc. These murders don't help with the promotion of all that though.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 07, 2023, 10:09:03 PMRestaurant recommendations in Lurgan, Jim?
Palomo in Church Place. New Haven Café in Windsor Avenue.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 07, 2023, 10:09:03 PMRestaurant recommendations in Lurgan, Jim?
I've always found it to be 100% and as previously said, not a pile different than a lot of other similar sized towns around it. One thing was always different for me however. It always seemed that there were more people in the bars in Lurgan than in the other towns. I mean day drinkers, midweek drinkers etc. A great drinking town as you would hear people say. Not sure it still rings true today.
And another thing. I was in it around May in the blistering heat and trying to find a decent ice cream shop was nigh on impossible. You'd think they could sort that out!
I'm sure illdecide could have pointed you in the right direction....
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 07, 2023, 10:16:39 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 07, 2023, 10:09:03 PMRestaurant recommendations in Lurgan, Jim?
I've always found it to be 100% and as previously said, not a pile different than a lot of other similar sized towns around it. One thing was always different for me however. It always seemed that there were more people in the bars in Lurgan than in the other towns. I mean day drinkers, midweek drinkers etc. A great drinking town as you would hear people say. Not sure it still rings true today.
And another thing. I was in it around May in the blistering heat and trying to find a decent ice cream shop was nigh on impossible. You'd think they could sort that out!
I'm sure illdecide could have pointed you in the right direction....
Marshmallow ice in one of the Cafolla's surely the way to go
Quote from: David McKeown on December 07, 2023, 11:21:26 PMQuote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 07, 2023, 10:16:39 PMQuote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 07, 2023, 10:09:03 PMRestaurant recommendations in Lurgan, Jim?
I've always found it to be 100% and as previously said, not a pile different than a lot of other similar sized towns around it. One thing was always different for me however. It always seemed that there were more people in the bars in Lurgan than in the other towns. I mean day drinkers, midweek drinkers etc. A great drinking town as you would hear people say. Not sure it still rings true today.
And another thing. I was in it around May in the blistering heat and trying to find a decent ice cream shop was nigh on impossible. You'd think they could sort that out!
I'm sure illdecide could have pointed you in the right direction....
Marshmallow ice in one of the Cafolla's surely the way to go
Cafollas for sure
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 07, 2023, 10:09:03 PMRestaurant recommendations in Lurgan, Jim?
I've always found it to be 100% and as previously said, not a pile different than a lot of other similar sized towns around it. One thing was always different for me however. It always seemed that there were more people in the bars in Lurgan than in the other towns. I mean day drinkers, midweek drinkers etc. A great drinking town as you would hear people say. Not sure it still rings true today.
And another thing. I was in it around May in the blistering heat and trying to find a decent ice cream shop was nigh on impossible. You'd think they could sort that out!
You wash your mouth out with a bar of soap...all this great debate about Lurgan and then this crap :o
A quick google of the accused.
How was he on the streets?
*Caught with over £200,000 class A & class B drugs in 2022
*Charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm to a female in a 'prolonged & violent' attack.
*Pleaded guilty to having a loaded sawn-off shotgun and cartridges in suspicious circumstances on September 12 last year. He also admitted having a machete and a knife.
*Arrested for a drunk-in-charge offence showed that he also had cannabis and Diazepam in his system
Quote from: toby47 on December 08, 2023, 03:27:15 PMA quick google of the accused.
How was he on the streets?
*Caught with over £200,000 class A & class B drugs in 2022
*Charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm to a female in a 'prolonged & violent' attack.
*Pleaded guilty to having a loaded sawn-off shotgun and cartridges in suspicious circumstances on September 12 last year. He also admitted having a machete and a knife.
*Arrested for a drunk-in-charge offence showed that he also had cannabis and Diazepam in his system
There's only one reason why a fella like that is on the streets.
He got jailed for 3 years in March. WTF
Quote from: Truth hurts on December 08, 2023, 04:19:39 PMHe got jailed for 3 years in March. WTF
8 months not 3 years
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on December 07, 2023, 10:09:03 PMRestaurant recommendations in Lurgan, Jim?
I've always found it to be 100% and as previously said, not a pile different than a lot of other similar sized towns around it. One thing was always different for me however. It always seemed that there were more people in the bars in Lurgan than in the other towns. I mean day drinkers, midweek drinkers etc. A great drinking town as you would hear people say. Not sure it still rings true today.
And another thing. I was in it around May in the blistering heat and trying to find a decent ice cream shop was nigh on impossible. You'd think they could sort that out!
Are you serious? Cafolla's ice cream is legendary!
This murder looks like it was just completely indiscriminate - is that right? In a lot of cases you see some connection but this boy was doing nothing at all :( Horrendous.
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 08, 2023, 06:17:44 PMThis murder looks like it was just completely indiscriminate - is that right? In a lot of cases you see some connection but this boy was doing nothing at all :( Horrendous.
Poor fella.
Wtf info was he giving that law enforcement decided it was better to have a tr**p like that on the street?
Quote from: toby47 on December 08, 2023, 03:27:15 PMA quick google of the accused.
How was he on the streets?
*Caught with over £200,000 class A & class B drugs in 2022
*Charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm to a female in a 'prolonged & violent' attack.
*Pleaded guilty to having a loaded sawn-off shotgun and cartridges in suspicious circumstances on September 12 last year. He also admitted having a machete and a knife.
*Arrested for a drunk-in-charge offence showed that he also had cannabis and Diazepam in his system
I don't even have to see a picture to know he's one of these merchants you see on Facebook that are full-time mad bastards, holding a bottle of Bo middle finger up and a picture of Tupac as their background.
Works at "being a full time mad basturt"
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 08, 2023, 07:59:16 PMWorks at "being a full time mad basturt"
You've started early tonight 🥃
And there are guys like this in every big town.
The Google search is frightening reading the rap sheet. He had been in today's courtroom many times before.
No indication yet how Odhran came across his path that fateful night.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 08, 2023, 08:03:01 PMQuote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 08, 2023, 07:59:16 PMWorks at "being a full time mad basturt"
You've started early tonight 🥃
Fight me.
Been a v emotional evening after watching the funeral 😉🥂
There was a thing on the radio the other week about a boy in east Belfast who attacked someone with a vodka bottle because they were a foreigner. It then proceeded to say the boy had 129 previous convictions. 129.. how do you rehabilitate people like that.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on December 08, 2023, 08:41:59 PMAnd there are guys like this in every big town.
The Google search is frightening reading the rap sheet. He had been in today's courtroom many times before.
No indication yet how Odhran came across his path that fateful night.
Have heard the craic of what happened. Fucked up. Not putting up here for obvious reasons
Were the drinking in a flat together or something
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 08, 2023, 03:47:42 PMQuote from: toby47 on December 08, 2023, 03:27:15 PMA quick google of the accused.
How was he on the streets?
*Caught with over £200,000 class A & class B drugs in 2022
*Charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm to a female in a 'prolonged & violent' attack.
*Pleaded guilty to having a loaded sawn-off shotgun and cartridges in suspicious circumstances on September 12 last year. He also admitted having a machete and a knife.
*Arrested for a drunk-in-charge offence showed that he also had cannabis and Diazepam in his system
There's only one reason why a fella like that is on the streets.
is it becuase he was may have been making money for paramilitarys.
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 08, 2023, 09:34:12 PMThere was a thing on the radio the other week about a boy in east Belfast who attacked someone with a vodka bottle because they were a foreigner. It then proceeded to say the boy had 129 previous convictions. 129.. how do you rehabilitate people like that.
Used to see that all the time in the papers. Remember a girl from Strabane with 2 or 3 hundred. Surely there should be a threshold of say X number of convictions means Y years in jail. Multiple offenders should be getting harsher sentences.
seems like he was a big time dealer or a serious distributor for higher ups if had 200k worth
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 08, 2023, 09:34:12 PMThere was a thing on the radio the other week about a boy in east Belfast who attacked someone with a vodka bottle because they were a foreigner. It then proceeded to say the boy had 129 previous convictions. 129.. how do you rehabilitate people like that.
It involves a bullet and their legs lol
sure paramilitary are in cahoots with these types he probably is paramilitary or has connections
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 08, 2023, 09:55:40 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on December 08, 2023, 09:34:12 PMThere was a thing on the radio the other week about a boy in east Belfast who attacked someone with a vodka bottle because they were a foreigner. It then proceeded to say the boy had 129 previous convictions. 129.. how do you rehabilitate people like that.
Used to see that all the time in the papers. Remember a girl from Strabane with 2 or 3 hundred. Surely there should be a threshold of say X number of convictions means Y years in jail. Multiple offenders should be getting harsher sentences.
Driving a car illegally is a sure way to wrack up the conviction numbers: no license, no insurance, speeding, defective tyres, driving when banned. There's 5 separate convictions.
If the cops know you are into drugs/crime, then there is more chance they stop you when driving. The cycle continues of driving offences for serial offenders as they know it kinda means nothing in the overall scheme of their rap sheet.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on December 08, 2023, 11:28:12 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on December 08, 2023, 09:55:40 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on December 08, 2023, 09:34:12 PMThere was a thing on the radio the other week about a boy in east Belfast who attacked someone with a vodka bottle because they were a foreigner. It then proceeded to say the boy had 129 previous convictions. 129.. how do you rehabilitate people like that.
Used to see that all the time in the papers. Remember a girl from Strabane with 2 or 3 hundred. Surely there should be a threshold of say X number of convictions means Y years in jail. Multiple offenders should be getting harsher sentences.
Driving a car illegally is a sure way to wrack up the conviction numbers: no license, no insurance, speeding, defective tyres, driving when banned. There's 5 separate convictions.
If the cops know you are into drugs/crime, then there is more chance they stop you when driving. The cycle continues of driving offences for serial offenders as they know it kinda means nothing in the overall scheme of their rap sheet.
Exactly. If the number of offences actually count then it might act as a deterrent or put the culprits away.
Easy reason he not in jail, he a informer, that's the type if scum they target, to keep him out of jail.
What the hell is going on in Portadown? (I know I've posted in the lurgan thread but their close enough)
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/list-of-alleged-drug-dealers-linked-to-crime-gang-the-firm-posted-online-following-suicide-of-young-person/a1968934134.html
Quote from: ShutterinbyDayGAAbyNight on January 09, 2024, 03:13:01 PMWhat the hell is going on in Portadown? (I know I've posted in the lurgan thread but their close enough)
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/list-of-alleged-drug-dealers-linked-to-crime-gang-the-firm-posted-online-following-suicide-of-young-person/a1968934134.html
Wash yer mouth out.
I havent read that article but I saw a lot of the posts and names being shared before Christmas. Truly awful with such a young life lost.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-67928605 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-67928605)
Rumour the victim is a Lurgan man, connected to The Firm
Looks like they are cleaning house
Feared he was going to turn and give details on The Firm, so filled him with bullets?
is the firm now in a fued with reoublicans.
Quote from: Eire90 on January 10, 2024, 03:05:25 PMis the firm now in a fued with reoublicans.
Doubt it. Sure they're intertwined in ways.
1st rumour is that the Dublin gangs have caught up with this lad.
Was the fella Conway always involved in drugs around Lurgan? Was he ever involved in playing GAA?
Only 26 and getting caught up in this. It's mad altogether.
Quote from: Truth hurts on January 11, 2024, 10:38:59 AMWas the fella Conway always involved in drugs around Lurgan? Was he ever involved in playing GAA?
Only 26 and getting caught up in this. It's mad altogether.
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/lurgan-kidnap-victim-kevin-conway-was-bound-and-shot-court-hears/35795431.html (https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/lurgan-kidnap-victim-kevin-conway-was-bound-and-shot-court-hears/35795431.html)
That's his Da! No pension scheme needed for their family business
If thats all ya know what chances have ya?
That's wild, is Lurgan a big drug place now. was conway the leader of the firm ?
Quote from: Truth hurts on January 11, 2024, 12:11:20 PMThat's wild, is Lurgan a big drug place now. was conway the leader of the firm ?
Yes and no.
Quote from: general_lee on January 11, 2024, 01:20:23 PMQuote from: Truth hurts on January 11, 2024, 12:11:20 PMThat's wild, is Lurgan a big drug place now. was conway the leader of the firm ?
Yes and no.
Was the Da clipped for the same sort of stuff?
https://belfastmedia.com/west-belfast-murder-gang-were-contracted-to-kill-kevin-conway
Quote from: Truth hurts on January 11, 2024, 12:11:20 PMThat's wild, is Lurgan a big drug place now. was conway the leader of the firm ?
There are rumours that the old anti drug IRA lads are looking to take Lurgan back. This will make a great TV show in a few years.
Quote from: toby47 on January 11, 2024, 01:46:43 PMhttps://belfastmedia.com/west-belfast-murder-gang-were-contracted-to-kill-kevin-conway
"He had been staying at the Shaws road address where he was brutally murdered as part of his bail conditions."
bail conditions seem a bit harsh
Quote from: NAG1 on January 11, 2024, 01:23:46 PMQuote from: general_lee on January 11, 2024, 01:20:23 PMQuote from: Truth hurts on January 11, 2024, 12:11:20 PMThat's wild, is Lurgan a big drug place now. was conway the leader of the firm ?
Yes and no.
Was the Da clipped for the same sort of stuff?
Not quite. Might have been something to do with counterfeit cigarettes.
Quote from: tonto1888 on January 11, 2024, 02:06:30 PMQuote from: toby47 on January 11, 2024, 01:46:43 PMhttps://belfastmedia.com/west-belfast-murder-gang-were-contracted-to-kill-kevin-conway
"He had been staying at the Shaws road address where he was brutally murdered as part of his bail conditions."
bail conditions seem a bit harsh
You really do have to question how someone suspected of murder is able to be released on bail, breach that bail and then continue to be on bail. Especially when there was a known threat against said murder suspect.
Quote from: general_lee on January 11, 2024, 02:12:17 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on January 11, 2024, 02:06:30 PMQuote from: toby47 on January 11, 2024, 01:46:43 PMhttps://belfastmedia.com/west-belfast-murder-gang-were-contracted-to-kill-kevin-conway
"He had been staying at the Shaws road address where he was brutally murdered as part of his bail conditions."
bail conditions seem a bit harsh
You really do have to question how someone suspected of murder is able to be released on bail, breach that bail and then continue to be on bail. Especially when there was a known threat against said murder suspect.
To be fair, a character like this being 'taken out' doesn't really phase the police.
Quote from: JimStynes on January 11, 2024, 01:56:19 PMQuote from: Truth hurts on January 11, 2024, 12:11:20 PMThat's wild, is Lurgan a big drug place now. was conway the leader of the firm ?
There are rumours that the old anti drug IRA lads are looking to take Lurgan back. This will make a great TV show in a few years.
The local community will be happy with that
Quote from: JimStynes on January 11, 2024, 01:56:19 PMQuote from: Truth hurts on January 11, 2024, 12:11:20 PMThat's wild, is Lurgan a big drug place now. was conway the leader of the firm ?
There are rumours that the old anti drug IRA lads are looking to take Lurgan back. This will make a great TV show in a few years.
Hopefully.
Interesting talkback on Radio Ulster today detailing how the sons and grandsons of IRA men are now in the same organisation as ex LVF men in the Portadown/Lurgan area. At least if Alison Morris has it right that is.
Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 11, 2024, 04:05:09 PMInteresting talkback on Radio Ulster today detailing how the sons and grandsons of IRA men are now in the same organisation as ex LVF men in the Portadown/Lurgan area. At least if Alison Morris has it right that is.
That's correct
Are RAAD back in lugan are they really anti drug if they were really true anti drug puritans they would start shooting pub owners
Quote from: lurganblue on January 11, 2024, 04:18:43 PMQuote from: ThomasMullan on January 11, 2024, 04:05:09 PMInteresting talkback on Radio Ulster today detailing how the sons and grandsons of IRA men are now in the same organisation as ex LVF men in the Portadown/Lurgan area. At least if Alison Morris has it right that is.
That's correct
Shows the sorts that were in the IRA.
hadowy republicans have been accused of trying to use the tragic death of a young Portadown man to make gains for themselves.
The INLA-linked IRSP were forced to cancel a planned anti-drug-dealer protest which they had organised for last Thursday evening.
The protest was planned in the aftermath of the death of a young man from the town who had battled with drug addiction.
That climbdown came following a request from the young man's family on social media. They asked for people to leave them alone to grieve in peace.
The family did so after their son's name was used in a threatening social media post which named alleged drug dealers.
According to the anonymous accusers, the alleged drug dealers had "aided" in the death of the drug-addicted man.
They added that the alleged dealers were guilty of "grooming him into drug addiction".
In response, the family posted a message on social media thanking everyone who paid tributes to their loved one.
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Has anyone the message?
Quote from: trailer on January 11, 2024, 04:48:16 PMQuote from: lurganblue on January 11, 2024, 04:18:43 PMQuote from: ThomasMullan on January 11, 2024, 04:05:09 PMInteresting talkback on Radio Ulster today detailing how the sons and grandsons of IRA men are now in the same organisation as ex LVF men in the Portadown/Lurgan area. At least if Alison Morris has it right that is.
That's correct
Shows the sorts that were in the IRA.
That's what I was thinking.
Anybody see the Lurgan list of the firm?
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 11, 2024, 10:32:10 PMAnybody see the Lurgan list of the firm?
What's this now?
Quote from: trailer on January 11, 2024, 04:48:16 PMQuote from: lurganblue on January 11, 2024, 04:18:43 PMQuote from: ThomasMullan on January 11, 2024, 04:05:09 PMInteresting talkback on Radio Ulster today detailing how the sons and grandsons of IRA men are now in the same organisation as ex LVF men in the Portadown/Lurgan area. At least if Alison Morris has it right that is.
That's correct
Shows the sorts that were in the IRA.
Not really
Quote from: tonto1888 on January 12, 2024, 07:15:35 AMQuote from: trailer on January 11, 2024, 04:48:16 PMQuote from: lurganblue on January 11, 2024, 04:18:43 PMQuote from: ThomasMullan on January 11, 2024, 04:05:09 PMInteresting talkback on Radio Ulster today detailing how the sons and grandsons of IRA men are now in the same organisation as ex LVF men in the Portadown/Lurgan area. At least if Alison Morris has it right that is.
That's correct
Shows the sorts that were in the IRA.
Not really
I wouldn't even bite on that one Tonto ::)
Quote from: NAG1 on January 12, 2024, 08:42:25 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on January 12, 2024, 07:15:35 AMQuote from: trailer on January 11, 2024, 04:48:16 PMQuote from: lurganblue on January 11, 2024, 04:18:43 PMQuote from: ThomasMullan on January 11, 2024, 04:05:09 PMInteresting talkback on Radio Ulster today detailing how the sons and grandsons of IRA men are now in the same organisation as ex LVF men in the Portadown/Lurgan area. At least if Alison Morris has it right that is.
That's correct
Shows the sorts that were in the IRA.
Not really
I wouldn't even bite on that one Tonto ::)
Well, it's true no one is responsible for the actions of others but it's not a good look if your son or grandson is now in a criminal gang with loyalist drug dealers.
Yeah but that works both ways so to pick one up you would probably imagine is just shit stirring...
Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 12, 2024, 09:05:00 AMQuote from: NAG1 on January 12, 2024, 08:42:25 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on January 12, 2024, 07:15:35 AMQuote from: trailer on January 11, 2024, 04:48:16 PMQuote from: lurganblue on January 11, 2024, 04:18:43 PMQuote from: ThomasMullan on January 11, 2024, 04:05:09 PMInteresting talkback on Radio Ulster today detailing how the sons and grandsons of IRA men are now in the same organisation as ex LVF men in the Portadown/Lurgan area. At least if Alison Morris has it right that is.
That's correct
Shows the sorts that were in the IRA.
Not really
I wouldn't even bite on that one Tonto ::)
Well, it's true no one is responsible for the actions of others but it's not a good look if your son or grandson is now in a criminal gang with loyalist drug dealers.
If you want to be pedantic the infamous "Loyalists" who are allegedly leading figures in "The Firm" were actually born Catholic.
Quote from: general_lee on January 12, 2024, 09:47:53 AMQuote from: ThomasMullan on January 12, 2024, 09:05:00 AMQuote from: NAG1 on January 12, 2024, 08:42:25 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on January 12, 2024, 07:15:35 AMQuote from: trailer on January 11, 2024, 04:48:16 PMQuote from: lurganblue on January 11, 2024, 04:18:43 PMQuote from: ThomasMullan on January 11, 2024, 04:05:09 PMInteresting talkback on Radio Ulster today detailing how the sons and grandsons of IRA men are now in the same organisation as ex LVF men in the Portadown/Lurgan area. At least if Alison Morris has it right that is.
That's correct
Shows the sorts that were in the IRA.
Not really
I wouldn't even bite on that one Tonto ::)
Well, it's true no one is responsible for the actions of others but it's not a good look if your son or grandson is now in a criminal gang with loyalist drug dealers.
If you want to be pedantic the infamous "Loyalists" who are allegedly leading figures in "The Firm" were actually born Catholic.
It all sound very Sunday World.
Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 12, 2024, 09:56:55 AMQuote from: general_lee on January 12, 2024, 09:47:53 AMQuote from: ThomasMullan on January 12, 2024, 09:05:00 AMQuote from: NAG1 on January 12, 2024, 08:42:25 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on January 12, 2024, 07:15:35 AMQuote from: trailer on January 11, 2024, 04:48:16 PMQuote from: lurganblue on January 11, 2024, 04:18:43 PMQuote from: ThomasMullan on January 11, 2024, 04:05:09 PMInteresting talkback on Radio Ulster today detailing how the sons and grandsons of IRA men are now in the same organisation as ex LVF men in the Portadown/Lurgan area. At least if Alison Morris has it right that is.
That's correct
Shows the sorts that were in the IRA.
Not really
I wouldn't even bite on that one Tonto ::)
Well, it's true no one is responsible for the actions of others but it's not a good look if your son or grandson is now in a criminal gang with loyalist drug dealers.
If you want to be pedantic the infamous "Loyalists" who are allegedly leading figures in "The Firm" were actually born Catholic.
It all sound very Sunday World.
There'll be a pull out spread this weekend
Quote from: NAG1 on January 12, 2024, 08:42:25 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on January 12, 2024, 07:15:35 AMQuote from: trailer on January 11, 2024, 04:48:16 PMQuote from: lurganblue on January 11, 2024, 04:18:43 PMQuote from: ThomasMullan on January 11, 2024, 04:05:09 PMInteresting talkback on Radio Ulster today detailing how the sons and grandsons of IRA men are now in the same organisation as ex LVF men in the Portadown/Lurgan area. At least if Alison Morris has it right that is.
That's correct
Shows the sorts that were in the IRA.
Not really
I wouldn't even bite on that one Tonto ::)
fair point. I should know better by now
Kevin Conway's dad originally fell foul of the IRA for allegedly breaking into the homes of OAP's. He moved to Kilwilkee where he fell foul of the dissidents for supply cigs and booze to underage again allegedly. So the son didn't really have much example.
I see the Natalie McNally accused has pleaded not-guilty
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 12, 2024, 03:20:59 PMKevin Conway's dad originally fell foul of the IRA for allegedly breaking into the homes of OAP's. He moved to Kilwilkee where he fell foul of the dissidents for supply cigs and booze to underage again allegedly. So the son didn't really have much example.
I thought this lad was only a few months old when the father died. So the father wasn't around to give any example
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 12, 2024, 04:18:45 PMQuote from: Applesisapples on January 12, 2024, 03:20:59 PMKevin Conway's dad originally fell foul of the IRA for allegedly breaking into the homes of OAP's. He moved to Kilwilkee where he fell foul of the dissidents for supply cigs and booze to underage again allegedly. So the son didn't really have much example.
I thought this lad was only a few months old when the father died. So the father wasn't around to give any example
Apple doesn't fall to far from the tree...
When you grow up in such environments regardless if the father was about, the peers around the family would be regaling stories and possibly up to no good, add in the circles in which you move in won't have helped.
It's a short life drug dealing
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 12, 2024, 03:20:59 PMKevin Conway's dad originally fell foul of the IRA for allegedly breaking into the homes of OAP's. He moved to Kilwilkee where he fell foul of the dissidents for supply cigs and booze to underage again allegedly. So the son didn't really have much example.
I used to work with him when he worked for Irwin's Bakery. He was under investigation by the bakery who suspected he was up to no good financially. There was a lot of cash transactions in those days so it was easier to pocket money than it probably is now.
So his da was killed for selling fags and drink?
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 12, 2024, 10:46:18 PMSo his da was killed for selling fags and drink?
I've heard a few things now. Didn't know he was a house breaker. Read somewhere he was also circulating fake £1 coins.
Quote from: general_lee on January 12, 2024, 11:38:57 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on January 12, 2024, 10:46:18 PMSo his da was killed for selling fags and drink?
I've heard a few things now. Didn't know he was a house breaker. Read somewhere he was also circulating fake £1 coins.
Don't know why anyone would want to be a criminal - sounds like hard work.
Doesn't look to hard for the boys I see floating about Waringstown, living in mansions with multiple luxury cars.
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 13, 2024, 01:10:34 PMDoesn't look to hard for the boys I see floating about Waringstown, living in mansions with multiple luxury cars.
It's pretty hard when someone comes in and wipes you out!
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 13, 2024, 01:10:34 PMDoesn't look to hard for the boys I see floating about Waringstown, living in mansions with multiple luxury cars.
Will see how long that lasts! Once the inevitable fall out happens and they start killing each other.
The Sunday World favourite has been living it up for years without reprisal.
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 13, 2024, 01:10:34 PMDoesn't look to hard for the boys I see floating about Waringstown, living in mansions with multiple luxury cars.
Would it not be hard for authorities to find out about these lads if they live in big houses and drive luxury cars etc. and don't have 'regular' jobs?
These lads are not shy showing their wealth. Nearly like a status symbol nowadays.
Would there be a chance they may be supplying info to the cops?
Quote from: marty34 on January 13, 2024, 05:12:25 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on January 13, 2024, 01:10:34 PMDoesn't look to hard for the boys I see floating about Waringstown, living in mansions with multiple luxury cars.
Would it not be hard for authorities to find out about these lads if they live in big houses and drive luxury cars etc. and don't have 'regular' jobs?
These lads are not shy showing their wealth. Nearly like a status symbol nowadays.
Would there be a chance they may be supplying info to the cops?
To what end? Information on other criminals?
how do they manage to purchase these big homes? Surely questions would be asked if they tried to purchase in cash or even try to get a mortgage ?
Quote from: Wee Barky on January 13, 2024, 07:47:25 PMhow do they manage to purchase these big homes? Surely questions would be asked if they tried to purchase in cash or even try to get a mortgage ?
Could be cleaning the money. Would say plenty of people wouldn't turn down notes or part notes for a house.
Quote from: Wee Barky on January 13, 2024, 07:47:25 PMhow do they manage to purchase these big homes? Surely questions would be asked if they tried to purchase in cash or even try to get a mortgage ?
Anyone half organised now understands you have to have a way of cleaning the money, chippy, "car sales" etc,beauty salons quite popular apparently......
Quote from: general_lee on January 12, 2024, 11:38:57 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on January 12, 2024, 10:46:18 PMSo his da was killed for selling fags and drink?
I've heard a few things now. Didn't know he was a house breaker. Read somewhere he was also circulating fake £1 coins.
Hardly justifies murdering him
It's called organised crime for a reason. The boys that last a long time aren't stupid and have a back office of accountants and fixers managing their wash cycles.
Isn't there meant to be a great chip shop in Lurgan? And a massive park.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2024, 08:02:36 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on January 12, 2024, 04:18:45 PMQuote from: Applesisapples on January 12, 2024, 03:20:59 PMKevin Conway's dad originally fell foul of the IRA for allegedly breaking into the homes of OAP's. He moved to Kilwilkee where he fell foul of the dissidents for supply cigs and booze to underage again allegedly. So the son didn't really have much example.
I thought this lad was only a few months old when the father died. So the father wasn't around to give any example
Apple doesn't fall to far from the tree...
When you grow up in such environments regardless if the father was about, the peers around the family would be regaling stories and possibly up to no good, add in the circles in which you move in won't have helped.
It's a short life drug dealing
Yes , I get your point.
But it could also go the other way. Your dad was caught up in x, y or z... life cut short, never seen his kids grow up, wife widowed etc. Wouldn't you think people around someone like this lad , might steer him on the right path, and try to ensure history doesn't repeat itself
Easy to say I suppose if you weren't brought up within a circle of multigenerational shenanigans I suppose
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 13, 2024, 09:01:49 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2024, 08:02:36 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on January 12, 2024, 04:18:45 PMQuote from: Applesisapples on January 12, 2024, 03:20:59 PMKevin Conway's dad originally fell foul of the IRA for allegedly breaking into the homes of OAP's. He moved to Kilwilkee where he fell foul of the dissidents for supply cigs and booze to underage again allegedly. So the son didn't really have much example.
I thought this lad was only a few months old when the father died. So the father wasn't around to give any example
Apple doesn't fall to far from the tree...
When you grow up in such environments regardless if the father was about, the peers around the family would be regaling stories and possibly up to no good, add in the circles in which you move in won't have helped.
It's a short life drug dealing
Yes , I get your point.
But it could also go the other way. Your dad was caught up in x, y or z... life cut short, never seen his kids grow up, wife widowed etc. Wouldn't you think people around someone like this lad , might steer him on the right path, and try to ensure history doesn't repeat itself
Easy to say I suppose if you're not up to multigenerational shenanigans I suppose
It would if there was enough right thinking people who have enough clout to steer people in a good direction
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 13, 2024, 09:01:49 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on January 12, 2024, 08:02:36 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on January 12, 2024, 04:18:45 PMQuote from: Applesisapples on January 12, 2024, 03:20:59 PMKevin Conway's dad originally fell foul of the IRA for allegedly breaking into the homes of OAP's. He moved to Kilwilkee where he fell foul of the dissidents for supply cigs and booze to underage again allegedly. So the son didn't really have much example.
I thought this lad was only a few months old when the father died. So the father wasn't around to give any example
Apple doesn't fall to far from the tree...
When you grow up in such environments regardless if the father was about, the peers around the family would be regaling stories and possibly up to no good, add in the circles in which you move in won't have helped.
It's a short life drug dealing
Yes , I get your point.
But it could also go the other way. Your dad was caught up in x, y or z... life cut short, never seen his kids grow up, wife widowed etc. Wouldn't you think people around someone like this lad , might steer him on the right path, and try to ensure history doesn't repeat itself
Easy to say I suppose if you weren't brought up within a circle of multigenerational shenanigans I suppose
But the people around him were likely brought up at the same shite. Vicious circle.
Sunday World reckons Colly had your man Conway sorted out.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 13, 2024, 08:57:04 PMIt's called organised crime for a reason. The boys that last a long time aren't stupid and have a back office of accountants and fixers managing their wash cycles.
They obviously have that happening but always wondered how the assets recovery agency couldn't probe into the initial source of their money and assess the justification of the root of it all.
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 14, 2024, 11:35:18 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 13, 2024, 08:57:04 PMIt's called organised crime for a reason. The boys that last a long time aren't stupid and have a back office of accountants and fixers managing their wash cycles.
They obviously have that happening but always wondered how the assets recovery agency couldn't probe into the initial source of their money and assess the justification of the root of it all.
I'd suspect there is no much of it going on that they haven't the resources to tackle it all. However if there is violence involved they may refocus their attentions.
A fella up near home was driving lorries for a living and suddenly was building a big house and the missus was in a new Range Rover etc. Fast forward to him being pulled in at Dover and now doing a stretch. Could have been a random check or as most locals suspect is that he and wife couldn't help showing off and someone pointed the police in their direction.
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 14, 2024, 11:35:18 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 13, 2024, 08:57:04 PMIt's called organised crime for a reason. The boys that last a long time aren't stupid and have a back office of accountants and fixers managing their wash cycles.
They obviously have that happening but always wondered how the assets recovery agency couldn't probe into the initial source of their money and assess the justification of the root of it all.
Most of them already have a business or have access to one. All they do is wash the cash. Had a renowned neighbour originally from Newry. Now he's not ever actually been charged or jailed for anything. He "runs" a car wash. The Mrs is a MUA. Has a brand new 4 bed house with all the bells and whistles, garden done up to the 9s, security cameras and two nice flash motors in the driveway.
Quote from: general_lee on January 14, 2024, 12:49:07 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on January 14, 2024, 11:35:18 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 13, 2024, 08:57:04 PMIt's called organised crime for a reason. The boys that last a long time aren't stupid and have a back office of accountants and fixers managing their wash cycles.
They obviously have that happening but always wondered how the assets recovery agency couldn't probe into the initial source of their money and assess the justification of the root of it all.
Most of them already have a business or have access to one. All they do is wash the cash. Had a renowned neighbour originally from Newry. Now he's not ever actually been charged or jailed for anything. He "runs" a car wash. The Mrs is a MUA. Has a brand new 4 bed house with all the bells and whistles, garden done up to the 9s, security cameras and two nice flash motors in the driveway.
Least she'll have cars cleaned regularly
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2024, 12:50:55 PMQuote from: general_lee on January 14, 2024, 12:49:07 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on January 14, 2024, 11:35:18 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 13, 2024, 08:57:04 PMIt's called organised crime for a reason. The boys that last a long time aren't stupid and have a back office of accountants and fixers managing their wash cycles.
They obviously have that happening but always wondered how the assets recovery agency couldn't probe into the initial source of their money and assess the justification of the root of it all.
Most of them already have a business or have access to one. All they do is wash the cash. Had a renowned neighbour originally from Newry. Now he's not ever actually been charged or jailed for anything. He "runs" a car wash. The Mrs is a MUA. Has a brand new 4 bed house with all the bells and whistles, garden done up to the 9s, security cameras and two nice flash motors in the driveway.
Least she'll have cars cleaned regularly
And he'll have his lashes done regularly too
Bugger. Beat me to it. I was goin for his nails are to die for
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 12:40:51 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on January 14, 2024, 11:35:18 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 13, 2024, 08:57:04 PMIt's called organised crime for a reason. The boys that last a long time aren't stupid and have a back office of accountants and fixers managing their wash cycles.
They obviously have that happening but always wondered how the assets recovery agency couldn't probe into the initial source of their money and assess the justification of the root of it all.
I'd suspect there is no much of it going on that they haven't the resources to tackle it all. However if there is violence involved they may refocus their attentions.
A fella up near home was driving lorries for a living and suddenly was building a big house and the missus was in a new Range Rover etc. Fast forward to him being pulled in at Dover and now doing a stretch. Could have been a random check or as most locals suspect is that he and wife couldn't help showing off and someone pointed the police in their direction.
Can you go in and buy a big brand new wagon with cash?
I thought there'd be questions about that.
Quote from: marty34 on January 14, 2024, 03:05:53 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 12:40:51 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on January 14, 2024, 11:35:18 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 13, 2024, 08:57:04 PMIt's called organised crime for a reason. The boys that last a long time aren't stupid and have a back office of accountants and fixers managing their wash cycles.
They obviously have that happening but always wondered how the assets recovery agency couldn't probe into the initial source of their money and assess the justification of the root of it all.
I'd suspect there is no much of it going on that they haven't the resources to tackle it all. However if there is violence involved they may refocus their attentions.
A fella up near home was driving lorries for a living and suddenly was building a big house and the missus was in a new Range Rover etc. Fast forward to him being pulled in at Dover and now doing a stretch. Could have been a random check or as most locals suspect is that he and wife couldn't help showing off and someone pointed the police in their direction.
Can you go in and buy a big brand new wagon with cash?
I thought there'd be questions about that.
Depends whos selling it!
Fecking joke too when you think about it, cash has become dirty.
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 14, 2024, 03:06:43 PMQuote from: marty34 on January 14, 2024, 03:05:53 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 12:40:51 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on January 14, 2024, 11:35:18 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 13, 2024, 08:57:04 PMIt's called organised crime for a reason. The boys that last a long time aren't stupid and have a back office of accountants and fixers managing their wash cycles.
They obviously have that happening but always wondered how the assets recovery agency couldn't probe into the initial source of their money and assess the justification of the root of it all.
I'd suspect there is no much of it going on that they haven't the resources to tackle it all. However if there is violence involved they may refocus their attentions.
A fella up near home was driving lorries for a living and suddenly was building a big house and the missus was in a new Range Rover etc. Fast forward to him being pulled in at Dover and now doing a stretch. Could have been a random check or as most locals suspect is that he and wife couldn't help showing off and someone pointed the police in their direction.
Can you go in and buy a big brand new wagon with cash?
I thought there'd be questions about that.
Depends whos selling it!
Fecking joke too when you think about it, cash has become dirty.
If someone buys a car, with credit, they can sell that brand new car for cash and pay off their credit!
I'm sure there are plenty of underhand transactions used to clean money
Quote from: marty34 on January 14, 2024, 03:05:53 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 12:40:51 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on January 14, 2024, 11:35:18 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 13, 2024, 08:57:04 PMIt's called organised crime for a reason. The boys that last a long time aren't stupid and have a back office of accountants and fixers managing their wash cycles.
They obviously have that happening but always wondered how the assets recovery agency couldn't probe into the initial source of their money and assess the justification of the root of it all.
I'd suspect there is no much of it going on that they haven't the resources to tackle it all. However if there is violence involved they may refocus their attentions.
A fella up near home was driving lorries for a living and suddenly was building a big house and the missus was in a new Range Rover etc. Fast forward to him being pulled in at Dover and now doing a stretch. Could have been a random check or as most locals suspect is that he and wife couldn't help showing off and someone pointed the police in their direction.
Can you go in and buy a big brand new wagon with cash?
I thought there'd be questions about that.
Family member bought a car weeks ago for around three grand in cash from a local dealer. Was accepted no problem.
But I think when it's over a certain amount , you can't pay cash. Or they run your name through a machine , or something
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 14, 2024, 03:26:57 PMQuote from: marty34 on January 14, 2024, 03:05:53 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 12:40:51 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on January 14, 2024, 11:35:18 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 13, 2024, 08:57:04 PMIt's called organised crime for a reason. The boys that last a long time aren't stupid and have a back office of accountants and fixers managing their wash cycles.
They obviously have that happening but always wondered how the assets recovery agency couldn't probe into the initial source of their money and assess the justification of the root of it all.
I'd suspect there is no much of it going on that they haven't the resources to tackle it all. However if there is violence involved they may refocus their attentions.
A fella up near home was driving lorries for a living and suddenly was building a big house and the missus was in a new Range Rover etc. Fast forward to him being pulled in at Dover and now doing a stretch. Could have been a random check or as most locals suspect is that he and wife couldn't help showing off and someone pointed the police in their direction.
Can you go in and buy a big brand new wagon with cash?
I thought there'd be questions about that.
Family member bought a car weeks ago for around three grand in cash from a local dealer. Was accepted no problem.
But I think when it's over a certain amount , you can't pay cash. Or they run your name through a machine , or something
I can't lodge on one transaction anything over £5000. So must be sort of audit done
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 14, 2024, 03:26:57 PMQuote from: marty34 on January 14, 2024, 03:05:53 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 12:40:51 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on January 14, 2024, 11:35:18 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 13, 2024, 08:57:04 PMIt's called organised crime for a reason. The boys that last a long time aren't stupid and have a back office of accountants and fixers managing their wash cycles.
They obviously have that happening but always wondered how the assets recovery agency couldn't probe into the initial source of their money and assess the justification of the root of it all.
I'd suspect there is no much of it going on that they haven't the resources to tackle it all. However if there is violence involved they may refocus their attentions.
A fella up near home was driving lorries for a living and suddenly was building a big house and the missus was in a new Range Rover etc. Fast forward to him being pulled in at Dover and now doing a stretch. Could have been a random check or as most locals suspect is that he and wife couldn't help showing off and someone pointed the police in their direction.
Can you go in and buy a big brand new wagon with cash?
I thought there'd be questions about that.
Family member bought a car weeks ago for around three grand in cash from a local dealer. Was accepted no problem.
But I think when it's over a certain amount , you can't pay cash. Or they run your name through a machine , or something
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Ok cash up to £5k or £10k but when you pay cash for a brand new Range Rover or X5 etc., that's a different story.
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 14, 2024, 03:06:43 PMQuote from: marty34 on January 14, 2024, 03:05:53 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 12:40:51 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on January 14, 2024, 11:35:18 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 13, 2024, 08:57:04 PMIt's called organised crime for a reason. The boys that last a long time aren't stupid and have a back office of accountants and fixers managing their wash cycles.
They obviously have that happening but always wondered how the assets recovery agency couldn't probe into the initial source of their money and assess the justification of the root of it all.
I'd suspect there is no much of it going on that they haven't the resources to tackle it all. However if there is violence involved they may refocus their attentions.
A fella up near home was driving lorries for a living and suddenly was building a big house and the missus was in a new Range Rover etc. Fast forward to him being pulled in at Dover and now doing a stretch. Could have been a random check or as most locals suspect is that he and wife couldn't help showing off and someone pointed the police in their direction.
Can you go in and buy a big brand new wagon with cash?
I thought there'd be questions about that.
Depends whos selling it!
Fecking joke too when you think about it, cash has become dirty.
This is exactly why cash is becoming more regulated.
Quote from: marty34 on January 14, 2024, 03:35:34 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on January 14, 2024, 03:26:57 PMQuote from: marty34 on January 14, 2024, 03:05:53 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 12:40:51 PMQuote from: nrico2006 on January 14, 2024, 11:35:18 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 13, 2024, 08:57:04 PMIt's called organised crime for a reason. The boys that last a long time aren't stupid and have a back office of accountants and fixers managing their wash cycles.
They obviously have that happening but always wondered how the assets recovery agency couldn't probe into the initial source of their money and assess the justification of the root of it all.
I'd suspect there is no much of it going on that they haven't the resources to tackle it all. However if there is violence involved they may refocus their attentions.
A fella up near home was driving lorries for a living and suddenly was building a big house and the missus was in a new Range Rover etc. Fast forward to him being pulled in at Dover and now doing a stretch. Could have been a random check or as most locals suspect is that he and wife couldn't help showing off and someone pointed the police in their direction.
Can you go in and buy a big brand new wagon with cash?
I thought there'd be questions about that.
Family member bought a car weeks ago for around three grand in cash from a local dealer. Was accepted no problem.
But I think when it's over a certain amount , you can't pay cash. Or they run your name through a machine , or something
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Ok cash up to £5k or £10k but when you pay cash for a brand new Range Rover or X5 etc., that's a different story.
Would there by any issue buying a car at say 10 grand , with 5 grand in cash and stick the rest on a credit card?
Then pay that off in big amounts over a year (eg. 500 a month). Or do credit card companies do a check on how your income allows you to afford to pay £500 a month ?
I sold a car last year and some sham showed up with £10k cash. I said I'll sell to you tomorrow but by bank transfer.
Whats the problem with cash ffs.
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 14, 2024, 04:13:09 PMWhats the problem with cash ffs.
Are you gonna sit in the dark at the side of the road and count £10k that some randomer has handed you? And then take it home and cart it around til the bank opens next day?
Quote from: general_lee on January 14, 2024, 04:05:35 PMI sold a car last year and some sham showed up with £10k cash. I said I'll sell to you tomorrow but by bank transfer.
Were you concerned it was fake or it came from dodgy means?
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 14, 2024, 04:25:43 PMQuote from: general_lee on January 14, 2024, 04:05:35 PMI sold a car last year and some sham showed up with £10k cash. I said I'll sell to you tomorrow but by bank transfer.
Were you concerned it was fake or it came from dodgy means?
Not too many people run around with 10 grand in fairness..
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 14, 2024, 04:25:43 PMQuote from: general_lee on January 14, 2024, 04:05:35 PMI sold a car last year and some sham showed up with £10k cash. I said I'll sell to you tomorrow but by bank transfer.
Were you concerned it was fake or it came from dodgy means?
Not really, just didn't fancy the admin.
There's limits on how much businesses can take in cash before they have to refer the amount for money laundering regulations. The figure depends on the business but for solicitors offices its 1,000 i think its 5k for car sales but might be wrong
Quote from: David McKeown on January 14, 2024, 10:30:48 PMThere's limits on how much businesses can take in cash before they have to refer the amount for money laundering regulations. The figure depends on the business but for solicitors offices its 1,000 i think its 5k for car sales but might be wrong
The wife got about 2 grand in cash out a while ago to pay a tiler or something and she got quizzed in Santander as to what it was being used for. Surely you can take your own cash
out and do what you want with it.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 10:59:23 PMQuote from: David McKeown on January 14, 2024, 10:30:48 PMThere's limits on how much businesses can take in cash before they have to refer the amount for money laundering regulations. The figure depends on the business but for solicitors offices its 1,000 i think its 5k for car sales but might be wrong
The wife got about 2 grand in cash out a while ago to pay a tiler or something and she got quizzed in Santander as to what it was being used for. Surely you can take your own cash out and do what you want with it.
Exactly. f**king disgraceful.
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 14, 2024, 11:14:57 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 10:59:23 PMQuote from: David McKeown on January 14, 2024, 10:30:48 PMThere's limits on how much businesses can take in cash before they have to refer the amount for money laundering regulations. The figure depends on the business but for solicitors offices its 1,000 i think its 5k for car sales but might be wrong
The wife got about 2 grand in cash out a while ago to pay a tiler or something and she got quizzed in Santander as to what it was being used for. Surely you can take your own cash out and do what you want with it.
Exactly. f**king disgraceful.
Ack wind yer necks in, they are only trying to stop people getting swindled. Answer a few questions and be on your way.
Quote from: trailer on January 15, 2024, 09:06:29 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on January 14, 2024, 11:14:57 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 10:59:23 PMQuote from: David McKeown on January 14, 2024, 10:30:48 PMThere's limits on how much businesses can take in cash before they have to refer the amount for money laundering regulations. The figure depends on the business but for solicitors offices its 1,000 i think its 5k for car sales but might be wrong
The wife got about 2 grand in cash out a while ago to pay a tiler or something and she got quizzed in Santander as to what it was being used for. Surely you can take your own cash out and do what you want with it.
Exactly. f**king disgraceful.
Ack wind yer necks in, they are only trying to stop people getting swindled. Answer a few questions and be on your way.
As if they give a f**k. Its none of their business what you do with your moneh
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 15, 2024, 09:26:25 AMQuote from: trailer on January 15, 2024, 09:06:29 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on January 14, 2024, 11:14:57 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 10:59:23 PMQuote from: David McKeown on January 14, 2024, 10:30:48 PMThere's limits on how much businesses can take in cash before they have to refer the amount for money laundering regulations. The figure depends on the business but for solicitors offices its 1,000 i think its 5k for car sales but might be wrong
The wife got about 2 grand in cash out a while ago to pay a tiler or something and she got quizzed in Santander as to what it was being used for. Surely you can take your own cash out and do what you want with it.
Exactly. f**king disgraceful.
Ack wind yer necks in, they are only trying to stop people getting swindled. Answer a few questions and be on your way.
As if they give a f**k. Its none of their business what you do with your moneh
well, if it is being used illicitly they have to report it
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 14, 2024, 11:14:57 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 10:59:23 PMQuote from: David McKeown on January 14, 2024, 10:30:48 PMThere's limits on how much businesses can take in cash before they have to refer the amount for money laundering regulations. The figure depends on the business but for solicitors offices its 1,000 i think its 5k for car sales but might be wrong
The wife got about 2 grand in cash out a while ago to pay a tiler or something and she got quizzed in Santander as to what it was being used for. Surely you can take your own cash out and do what you want with it.
Exactly. f**king disgraceful.
why is it, cash payments are tax avoidance
pay the tiler by cheque or transfer
Quote from: naka on January 15, 2024, 10:33:33 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on January 14, 2024, 11:14:57 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 10:59:23 PMQuote from: David McKeown on January 14, 2024, 10:30:48 PMThere's limits on how much businesses can take in cash before they have to refer the amount for money laundering regulations. The figure depends on the business but for solicitors offices its 1,000 i think its 5k for car sales but might be wrong
The wife got about 2 grand in cash out a while ago to pay a tiler or something and she got quizzed in Santander as to what it was being used for. Surely you can take your own cash out and do what you want with it.
Exactly. f**king disgraceful.
why is it, cash payments are tax avoidance
pay the tiler by cheque or transfer
I don't think I have ever written a cheque apart from a few times in work. Do people still have cheque books?
Quote from: naka on January 15, 2024, 10:33:33 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on January 14, 2024, 11:14:57 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 10:59:23 PMQuote from: David McKeown on January 14, 2024, 10:30:48 PMThere's limits on how much businesses can take in cash before they have to refer the amount for money laundering regulations. The figure depends on the business but for solicitors offices its 1,000 i think its 5k for car sales but might be wrong
The wife got about 2 grand in cash out a while ago to pay a tiler or something and she got quizzed in Santander as to what it was being used for. Surely you can take your own cash out and do what you want with it.
Exactly. f**king disgraceful.
why is it, cash payments are tax avoidance
pay the tiler by cheque or transfer
Paid a tradesman recently for work done, by cash. If he chooses not to declare those earnings , I really couldn't give two frigs. I got the work done , and that's all I care about.
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 15, 2024, 10:49:40 AMQuote from: naka on January 15, 2024, 10:33:33 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on January 14, 2024, 11:14:57 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 10:59:23 PMQuote from: David McKeown on January 14, 2024, 10:30:48 PMThere's limits on how much businesses can take in cash before they have to refer the amount for money laundering regulations. The figure depends on the business but for solicitors offices its 1,000 i think its 5k for car sales but might be wrong
The wife got about 2 grand in cash out a while ago to pay a tiler or something and she got quizzed in Santander as to what it was being used for. Surely you can take your own cash out and do what you want with it.
Exactly. f**king disgraceful.
why is it, cash payments are tax avoidance
pay the tiler by cheque or transfer
Paid a tradesman recently for work done, by cash. If he chooses not to declare those earnings , I really couldn't give two frigs. I got the work done , and that's all I care about.
I've no problems paying cash to builders, as you say what they declare is on them, but we shouldn't then complain about dole merchants and global companies getting government tax breaks.
If you are paying cash does he reduce the cost of the work done?
Tony, was the cash just for the labour done or the cost of the tiles as well? Whole house must be decked out on tiles lol! As you get older you need carpets, falling on carpet is easier on the hips ;)
Quote from: JimStynes on January 15, 2024, 10:43:22 AMQuote from: naka on January 15, 2024, 10:33:33 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on January 14, 2024, 11:14:57 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 10:59:23 PMQuote from: David McKeown on January 14, 2024, 10:30:48 PMThere's limits on how much businesses can take in cash before they have to refer the amount for money laundering regulations. The figure depends on the business but for solicitors offices its 1,000 i think its 5k for car sales but might be wrong
The wife got about 2 grand in cash out a while ago to pay a tiler or something and she got quizzed in Santander as to what it was being used for. Surely you can take your own cash out and do what you want with it.
Exactly. f**king disgraceful.
why is it, cash payments are tax avoidance
pay the tiler by cheque or transfer
I don't think I have ever written a cheque apart from a few times in work. Do people still have cheque books?
Us farmers still prefer the ole cheque book
I see cheques and cash in my job, the card is used mainly but I don't think cheques will disappear any time soon
Quote from: JimStynes on January 14, 2024, 11:19:13 AMSunday World reckons Colly had your man Conway sorted out.
He would have lived in the same area.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2024, 11:19:57 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on January 15, 2024, 10:49:40 AMQuote from: naka on January 15, 2024, 10:33:33 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on January 14, 2024, 11:14:57 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2024, 10:59:23 PMQuote from: David McKeown on January 14, 2024, 10:30:48 PMThere's limits on how much businesses can take in cash before they have to refer the amount for money laundering regulations. The figure depends on the business but for solicitors offices its 1,000 i think its 5k for car sales but might be wrong
The wife got about 2 grand in cash out a while ago to pay a tiler or something and she got quizzed in Santander as to what it was being used for. Surely you can take your own cash out and do what you want with it.
Exactly. f**king disgraceful.
why is it, cash payments are tax avoidance
pay the tiler by cheque or transfer
Paid a tradesman recently for work done, by cash. If he chooses not to declare those earnings , I really couldn't give two frigs. I got the work done , and that's all I care about.
I've no problems paying cash to builders, as you say what they declare is on them, but we shouldn't then complain about dole merchants and global companies getting government tax breaks.
If you are paying cash does he reduce the cost of the work done?
Tony, was the cash just for the labour done or the cost of the tiles as well? Whole house must be decked out on tiles lol! As you get older you need carpets, falling on carpet is easier on the hips ;)
I asked the wife about it last night. It turns out that
her brother a friend paid when
our their bathroom done up as he could claim back the VAT and then
we another friend paid him the cash price ex. VAT and that's when they got questioned by the bank. ;)
Yeah there are all sorts of ways of claiming things or not claiming things, as long as I'm not being ripped off and the work done is up to her standard then I'm happy
Its not lurgan but i put it here
Reports are emerging that a number of masked and armed men entered numerous bars in Dungiven tonight.
The men, who it is believed were armed with guns, are reported to have issued threats a short time ago.
It is understood the gang warned punters and staff that they will take action against those selling drugs.
Sinn Féin Councillor Sean McGlinchey confirmed that licensed premises in the town had been targeted by three individuals who were armed.
"This is not the way forward. If anyone has any issues with drugs, there are better ways to address them and resolve them," he said.
is this puritan anti drug republicans now going after those that sell alcohol
Quote from: Eire90 on January 19, 2024, 11:47:18 PMIts not lurgan but i put it here
Reports are emerging that a number of masked and armed men entered numerous bars in Dungiven tonight.
The men, who it is believed were armed with guns, are reported to have issued threats a short time ago.
It is understood the gang warned punters and staff that they will take action against those selling drugs.
Sinn Féin Councillor Sean McGlinchey confirmed that licensed premises in the town had been targeted by three individuals who were armed.
"This is not the way forward. If anyone has any issues with drugs, there are better ways to address them and resolve them," he said.
Fair play.
who sinn fein or masked men
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 20, 2024, 12:48:50 AMQuote from: Eire90 on January 19, 2024, 11:47:18 PMIts not lurgan but i put it here
Reports are emerging that a number of masked and armed men entered numerous bars in Dungiven tonight.
The men, who it is believed were armed with guns, are reported to have issued threats a short time ago.
It is understood the gang warned punters and staff that they will take action against those selling drugs.
Sinn Féin Councillor Sean McGlinchey confirmed that licensed premises in the town had been targeted by three individuals who were armed.
"This is not the way forward. If anyone has any issues with drugs, there are better ways to address them and resolve them," he said.
Fair play.
Someone must be selling them cheaper than the masked guys.
They put on these little shows in Dungiven every once in a while and nothing changes
one of the pubs they burst into was gaa club apparantly.
Armed men enter GAA social club and threaten customers with handgun
Police say they received the reports of the incidents in the Co Derry town on Friday evening
The PSNI have appealed for information after reports of a group of masked men armed with a handgun entering two bars in Dungiven and threatening customers and staff on Friday evening.
It's understood three masked men entered the St Canice's GAC social club in the town shortly after 7pm, one armed with a revolver style handgun and the others armed with a metal pipe.
Eyewitnesses to the terrifying incident said the men proclaimed they were from 'the IRA' and demanded that the illegal drug trade in the town 'came to an end'.
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Later on Friday evening, another pub in the town was visited by a group of masked men, where further threats were made.
No injuries were reported in either incident but police have opened an investigation into what happened.
"Police received reports of a number of masked and armed men entering licensed premises in the Dungiven area on Friday evening, 19th January," a PSNI statement said.
"It was reported around 7.20pm that a number of masked, one of whom was believed to be armed with a hand gun had entered a sports club in the Garvagh Road area and made threats before making off.
"Police received a further report around 9.00pm that masked men had entered licensed premises on Main Street and again made threats before leaving. There are no reports of any injuries.
"A police investigation has been commenced into these incidents and enquiries are ongoing. Detectives would appeal to anyone with any information in relation to these incidents to contact
That's definitely one way of trying get all the cubs into line ahead of pre-season training starting.
Be nice if the cops and the media were as worried about the drug dealers..
Lurgan's finest plead guilty
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-68066928
Quote from: armaghniac on January 23, 2024, 06:02:30 PMLurgan's finest plead guilty
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-68066928
A prestigious honour in a town where there would be substantial competition for such a title.
Another fella near dead found yesterday out at the Gate. Heard he had a run in with some firm ones at the weekend got a hiding.
The once-notorious leader of drug gang The Firm has turned into a blubbering mess and walked away from drugs in fear for his life.
Sources in Lurgan — one of the few remaining strongholds of the cross-community drug gang — say the well-known leader has been left "devastated" and "living on his wits" after the murder of Kevin Conway in west Belfast.
He is also facing serious criminal sanctions linked to the drug gang and, combined with the hassle he's received after the murder of Shane Whitla last year, his life has been made a "misery", say sources.
Police have so far refused to state who they believe was behind the murder of Conway, but it seems the hit was almost certainly carried out by an elusive professional killer who already has at least seven murders on his rap sheet.
It's believed the killer used a silencer as even neighbours didn't hear the shots.
Last week, the shattered window of Conway's ground-floor flat had yet to be repaired. Sources said it was not shattered by a bullet, but had been broken for some time before the murder.