Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023

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Westside

Quote from: marty34 on November 25, 2023, 03:58:45 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 03:14:26 PMDo Cavan people realise that the majority of counties operate their championships and leagues combined? You can lose a senior champ final in Monaghan and still be relegated.

Cavan people should be embarrassed that Arva are in the Ulster Club Junior Championship.

Fraud of a system.

Cavan need to sort out their system, to improve it for their senior, intermediate and junior teams.

We are not embarrassed, at all. Delighted for Arva, best Junior Champions Cavan have produced in years.

theticklemister


intheknowhow

Quote from: ranch on November 25, 2023, 04:04:15 PMI really don't get the issue here with Arva. They're in the junior championship because they weren't good enough to win it previously. League and championship aren't linked in some counties and that's fair enough as far I'm concerned.
I'd more so have an issue with Blackhill being a yo-yo club every few years, Glenullin remaining at intermediate level for two years running, or a club like Cullyhanna being relegated to intermediate via their league position, ignoring the fact they'd played 90% of the league without their county representatives. This then gave them a pretty straightforward intermediate title in Armagh and a crack at Ulster, despite being a senior club at full strength. A system like Cavan's would eradicate these problems and ensure teams that win championships move up accordingly, and those that have county representation aren't relegated to a lower tier championship via league position undeservedly.

So league shouldn't matter? Ok, let Dublin play tailteann cup.. Kilkenny play Christy ring

SouthOfThe Bann

If league and championship were linked in Cavan and they were to send the best team in Division 3 as alot of people on here argue.That would have been either Denn or Drumgoon.

Not sure about Drumgoon but there's definitively an argument to be made that Denn are a better team than Arva and themselves won Ulster Junior 2 years ago.

And got to a Intermediate final this year.


full moon

Quote from: theticklemister on November 25, 2023, 04:06:47 PMMiles wide
100% Glenullin have a point that was miles wide, was it given ???


full moon

Refereeing here is  really poor, what other people think?

Westside

Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 04:12:18 PM
Quote from: ranch on November 25, 2023, 04:04:15 PMI really don't get the issue here with Arva. They're in the junior championship because they weren't good enough to win it previously. League and championship aren't linked in some counties and that's fair enough as far I'm concerned.
I'd more so have an issue with Blackhill being a yo-yo club every few years, Glenullin remaining at intermediate level for two years running, or a club like Cullyhanna being relegated to intermediate via their league position, ignoring the fact they'd played 90% of the league without their county representatives. This then gave them a pretty straightforward intermediate title in Armagh and a crack at Ulster, despite being a senior club at full strength. A system like Cavan's would eradicate these problems and ensure teams that win championships move up accordingly, and those that have county representation aren't relegated to a lower tier championship via league position undeservedly.

So league shouldn't matter? Ok, let Dublin play tailteann cup.. Kilkenny play Christy ring

Dublin are the All Ireland Champions. Kilkenny were in the All Ireland Final. What are you talking about?

intheknowhow

Quote from: full moon on November 25, 2023, 04:15:10 PMRefereeing here is  really poor, what other people think?

Good game in fairness.. the umpire has a few pound on Glenullin

intheknowhow

Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 04:17:17 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 04:12:18 PM
Quote from: ranch on November 25, 2023, 04:04:15 PMI really don't get the issue here with Arva. They're in the junior championship because they weren't good enough to win it previously. League and championship aren't linked in some counties and that's fair enough as far I'm concerned.
I'd more so have an issue with Blackhill being a yo-yo club every few years, Glenullin remaining at intermediate level for two years running, or a club like Cullyhanna being relegated to intermediate via their league position, ignoring the fact they'd played 90% of the league without their county representatives. This then gave them a pretty straightforward intermediate title in Armagh and a crack at Ulster, despite being a senior club at full strength. A system like Cavan's would eradicate these problems and ensure teams that win championships move up accordingly, and those that have county representation aren't relegated to a lower tier championship via league position undeservedly.

So league shouldn't matter? Ok, let Dublin play tailteann cup.. Kilkenny play Christy ring

Dublin are the All Ireland Champions. Kilkenny were in the All Ireland Final. What are you talking about?

They play Div 1. Monaghan and Tipperary then...

Westside

Quote from: full moon on November 25, 2023, 04:15:10 PMRefereeing here is  really poor, what other people think?

Very poor. Avoiding the big calls. The wide given as a point wasn't even close how did they all miss it.

Westside

Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 04:18:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 04:17:17 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 04:12:18 PM
Quote from: ranch on November 25, 2023, 04:04:15 PMI really don't get the issue here with Arva. They're in the junior championship because they weren't good enough to win it previously. League and championship aren't linked in some counties and that's fair enough as far I'm concerned.
I'd more so have an issue with Blackhill being a yo-yo club every few years, Glenullin remaining at intermediate level for two years running, or a club like Cullyhanna being relegated to intermediate via their league position, ignoring the fact they'd played 90% of the league without their county representatives. This then gave them a pretty straightforward intermediate title in Armagh and a crack at Ulster, despite being a senior club at full strength. A system like Cavan's would eradicate these problems and ensure teams that win championships move up accordingly, and those that have county representation aren't relegated to a lower tier championship via league position undeservedly.

So league shouldn't matter? Ok, let Dublin play tailteann cup.. Kilkenny play Christy ring

Dublin are the All Ireland Champions. Kilkenny were in the All Ireland Final. What are you talking about?

They play Div 1. Monaghan and Tipperary then...

Monaghan are Div 1 and were in an AI Semi Final, keep searching.

full moon

Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: full moon on November 25, 2023, 04:15:10 PMRefereeing here is  really poor, what other people think?

Very poor. Avoiding the big calls. The wide given as a point wasn't even close how did they all miss it.
Also linesman/ref should have seen that surely? Hopefully that a1 point isnt the difference or will be big controversy

JoG2

Ref not having a great game, he's chopping and changing what's deemed as a legitimate tackle... Should be a tight final 10 mins

Fairytale stuff re Arva

JoG2

Quote from: full moon on November 25, 2023, 04:24:19 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: full moon on November 25, 2023, 04:15:10 PMRefereeing here is  really poor, what other people think?

Very poor. Avoiding the big calls. The wide given as a point wasn't even close how did they all miss it.
Also linesman/ref should have seen that surely? Hopefully that a1 point isnt the difference or will be big controversy

Looked at least a meter wide

intheknowhow

Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 04:23:38 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 04:18:56 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 25, 2023, 04:17:17 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 04:12:18 PM
Quote from: ranch on November 25, 2023, 04:04:15 PMI really don't get the issue here with Arva. They're in the junior championship because they weren't good enough to win it previously. League and championship aren't linked in some counties and that's fair enough as far I'm concerned.
I'd more so have an issue with Blackhill being a yo-yo club every few years, Glenullin remaining at intermediate level for two years running, or a club like Cullyhanna being relegated to intermediate via their league position, ignoring the fact they'd played 90% of the league without their county representatives. This then gave them a pretty straightforward intermediate title in Armagh and a crack at Ulster, despite being a senior club at full strength. A system like Cavan's would eradicate these problems and ensure teams that win championships move up accordingly, and those that have county representation aren't relegated to a lower tier championship via league position undeservedly.

So league shouldn't matter? Ok, let Dublin play tailteann cup.. Kilkenny play Christy ring

Dublin are the All Ireland Champions. Kilkenny were in the All Ireland Final. What are you talking about?

They play Div 1. Monaghan and Tipperary then...

Monaghan are Div 1 and were in an AI Semi Final, keep searching.

It is the same principal. Div 1 team.