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GAA Discussion / Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
« Last post by Westside on Today at 08:11:57 PM »
Cavan team named. Obviously Mattie thinks Cork are tougher than Meath, Gearoid and Mackey start. Caoimhin Reilly inexplicably drops to the bench. Our starting Championship side won't be far off this.
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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Last post by thebar on Today at 08:10:58 PM »
You would think it's a sacrilege to criticise BR. surely one of the main objectives in bringing him to the club was improvement in Europe. In 2 seasons we have conceded 42 goals in Europe.  Invincible my hole.
His objective was getting to CL group stages, which he's achieved both seasons. Anything beyond that is a plus.  Last year they were drawn in a group with Barca and Man City. This year they finished 3rd in a group containing PSG and Bayern.  Despite the loss of Griffiths, Gordon , Hayes and Roberts they were unlucky not to be 2 or 3 to the good against Zenit heading to Russia.  Without those players it was always going to be an uphill struggle expect especially with Dembele and Sinclair in poor form. 

I dunno if your  hole is invincible and don't particularly want to find out but you are certainly talking thru it!


excuses excuses excuses.

Be careful what you wish for.
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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« Last post by HiMucker on Today at 08:08:38 PM »
Guess what lads....people freeze....hardened veteran cops freeze....rookies freeze...world cup footballers freeze on the biggest occasions....we are humans and all the training and preparation you do cannot prepare you for everything that life throws at you. I think there’s great hubris in people saying they’d do this or that....you don’t know what you’d do. As the sweats running down your back, and maybe even worse running down your leg then you do not know what you would do.
I agree with this.  Icemans post was spot on.  All you can say is that you would hope you would do the right thing, in the same scenario but you wouldn't know until it happened if you would or not. 
One thing I would say though, if he had have went in the press, society including us on here would be calling him a hero.  We put people on a pedestal for taking action, and call them a coward for inaction.  No inbetween.  If you're calling him a coward you're basically saying that it should be an easy decision to make.  So why call people a hero for doing something anyone would do?  Clearly then you are saying it wasn't an easy thing to do?  We cant have it both ways.

Sorry, but thats his fvckin job. Pretty much every school I know of now have annual active shooter drills and the school resource officer typically co-ordinates them.  Thats what he gets paid for.

It would be like a fireman showing up to a fire at your house and instead of kicking in the door to save your family, hightails it in the opposite direction

I would be shocked it this guy didnt have extensive training to deal with this very situation
Sorry but where did I say anything about it being or not being "his f**king job"?
Also I think your analogy is way off.  Whatever it has to with my post though I dont know?
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I watched Tyrone v Dublin game deferred a few weeks back and they never referenced the score during the live match which was a bonus.
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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« Last post by charlieTully on Today at 08:00:25 PM »
You would think it's a sacrilege to criticise BR. surely one of the main objectives in bringing him to the club was improvement in Europe. In 2 seasons we have conceded 42 goals in Europe.  Invincible my hole.
His objective was getting to CL group stages, which he's achieved both seasons. Anything beyond that is a plus.  Last year they were drawn in a group with Barca and Man City. This year they finished 3rd in a group containing PSG and Bayern.  Despite the loss of Griffiths, Gordon , Hayes and Roberts they were unlucky not to be 2 or 3 to the good against Zenit heading to Russia.  Without those players it was always going to be an uphill struggle expect especially with Dembele and Sinclair in poor form. 

I dunno if your  hole is invincible and don't particularly want to find out but you are certainly talking thru it!


excuses excuses excuses.
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General discussion / Re: Another School Shooting in America
« Last post by whitey on Today at 07:53:27 PM »
Guess what lads....people freeze....hardened veteran cops freeze....rookies freeze...world cup footballers freeze on the biggest occasions....we are humans and all the training and preparation you do cannot prepare you for everything that life throws at you. I think there’s great hubris in people saying they’d do this or that....you don’t know what you’d do. As the sweats running down your back, and maybe even worse running down your leg then you do not know what you would do.
I agree with this.  Icemans post was spot on.  All you can say is that you would hope you would do the right thing, in the same scenario but you wouldn't know until it happened if you would or not. 
One thing I would say though, if he had have went in the press, society including us on here would be calling him a hero.  We put people on a pedestal for taking action, and call them a coward for inaction.  No inbetween.  If you're calling him a coward you're basically saying that it should be an easy decision to make.  So why call people a hero for doing something anyone would do?  Clearly then you are saying it wasn't an easy thing to do?  We cant have it both ways.

Sorry, but thats his fvckin job. Pretty much every school I know of now have annual active shooter drills and the school resource officer typically co-ordinates them.  Thats what he gets paid for.

It would be like a fireman showing up to a fire at your house and instead of kicking in the door to save your family, hightails it in the opposite direction

I would be shocked it this guy didnt have extensive training to deal with this very situation
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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« Last post by Tony Baloney on Today at 07:44:41 PM »
I find it incredible that Jose is singled out for spending big when Pep has assembled the worth of two or three extremely expensive world class forward lines across town. Football at the top level is about spending big, that is the cost of admission to the big boy club.

Yeah strange that the media are picking on the manager who is the guts of 20 points off the pace and not the manager that is playing
exciting football and running away with the league.  ::)

And how a manager of spurs and Liverpool who are further behind, plus worse off goal difference are loved! Though I do like those managers
Jose is a w**ker so of course he is a focus.
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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« Last post by Syferus on Today at 07:32:59 PM »
I think the biggest issue for the jury in this case isn't going to be whether or not the victim consented (she's been consistent and unshakeable on the point). The issue is going to be proving the defendants didn't reasonably believe she consented.

Were they in a a state where they could be reasonably confident that they would know? How are your cognitive functions after 17 pints? The fact that the defendants sounds like they were totally tanked does not help the believability of any of the ‘specific details’ they’ve thrown up over the course of this trial.

Well it’s a good thing the girl was sober then

The mask has well and truly melted away at this stage.
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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« Last post by David McKeown on Today at 07:30:38 PM »
I think the biggest issue for the jury in this case isn't going to be whether or not the victim consented (she's been consistent and unshakeable on the point). The issue is going to be proving the defendants didn't reasonably believe she consented.

Being consistent/unshakeable is not the same as being believable, compelling or correct.

The point I was making is I don't think the trial is going to turn on the issue of did she consent. It might and if the jury believes she did then they will acquit. The more difficult thing I would imagine for them to deliberate over is have they been convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendants did not reasonably belief that in the circumstances she was not consenting. If that's not too many double negatives
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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« Last post by Milltown Row2 on Today at 07:29:46 PM »
I think the biggest issue for the jury in this case isn't going to be whether or not the victim consented (she's been consistent and unshakeable on the point). The issue is going to be proving the defendants didn't reasonably believe she consented.

Were they in a a state where they could be reasonably confident that they would know? How are your cognitive functions after 17 pints? The fact that the defendants sounds like they were totally tanked does not help the believability of any of the ‘specific details’ they’ve thrown up over the course of this trial.

Well it’s a good thing the girl was sober then
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