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« Reply #10455 on: October 13, 2017, 12:05:48 AM »
Only one person politicizing this here and it’s not me.

And when you can find some statement of mine that makes any claims that people on the left are less prone to personal failings than those on the right, come back to me.

J70 - I never said you did.


To be fair though him being a democrat donor has made it pretty uncomfortable for the left to admit he's one of theirs. Not politically correct behaviour we've come to expect.

It even took Hillary 5 days to make a statement condemning him.

Look - the president, like Bill Clinton before him, have a penchant for the ladies. We knew that from the bush tapes. The record speed at which Donald gets hammered for any other little faux pas is breathtaking. Even mispronouncing a word goes viral in 5 minutes.

I do love the word "hypocrisy", especially when pious virtues of the left have been shoved down your throat by the likes of CNN. Choke on that Don Lemon.

Hypocrisy would be defending or condoning sexual harassment by Weinstein or Clinton while condemning Trump or someone else for the same.

And yes, groups as a whole are always quicker to pull the trigger on opponents while they’re more likely to give the benefit of the doubt or wait and see with their own side. Welcome to human nature. Especially when they're political donors! But I haven’t seen one person in this board prevaricate in their condemnation of Weinstein.

And sexual harassment and abuse has nothing to do with political correctness. It’s abhorrent behaviour, full stop, not some debatable choice of words.

Finally, I'm not uncomfortable with this scandal whatsoever. I'm glad he's been outed, and hopefully plenty more like him suffer the same fate.
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« Reply #10456 on: October 13, 2017, 02:24:47 AM »
Foxy,
Wholeheartedly agree about the point scoring on both sides.

Though why you all still care about Hilary is beyond me. It's over, she lost. So what if it's 5 days later, private uninvolved citizen at this point?

The pious w**kers crack me up too,  and if anyone on this board wants to see a hypocrite, look in the mirror, we are human and we justify our own shit to ourselves. But closet politicians being hard on the gay community, socialists with Swiss bank accounts, family first advocates with mistresses, don't make hypocrisy your job.
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« Reply #10457 on: October 13, 2017, 02:45:18 AM »
Honestly not interested in getting in to a debate about this as I have zero time for trump, but I wouldnt be labelling a billionaire business man as a "failed business man", but thats just me.  Look you can talk about the merits and integrity of how he accumulated that money until the cows come home.  If you want to label him a failed business man on the back of that, knock yourself out.  But there is plenty other failures out there.  Chelsea owner, former A.C. Milan owner....  Maybe he cries himself to sleep on his private jet at all his business failures.  A failed human being is how id describe him.

If Trump started with nothing then you might have something. He started with a million bucks his dad gave him. If he'd put that money in a mutual fund he'd be a lot wealthier than he is today. He has a string of bankruptcies behind him and his business model seems to be to refuse to pay his bills after getting work done.

You spend too much time listening to Elizabeth Warren

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/

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« Reply #10458 on: October 13, 2017, 10:56:33 AM »
Honestly not interested in getting in to a debate about this as I have zero time for trump, but I wouldnt be labelling a billionaire business man as a "failed business man", but thats just me.  Look you can talk about the merits and integrity of how he accumulated that money until the cows come home.  If you want to label him a failed business man on the back of that, knock yourself out.  But there is plenty other failures out there.  Chelsea owner, former A.C. Milan owner....  Maybe he cries himself to sleep on his private jet at all his business failures.  A failed human being is how id describe him.

If Trump started with nothing then you might have something. He started with a million bucks his dad gave him. If he'd put that money in a mutual fund he'd be a lot wealthier than he is today. He has a string of bankruptcies behind him and his business model seems to be to refuse to pay his bills after getting work done.
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« Reply #10459 on: October 13, 2017, 01:25:34 PM »


If Trump started with nothing then you might have something. He started with a million bucks his dad gave him. If he'd put that money in a mutual fund he'd be a lot wealthier than he is today. He has a string of bankruptcies behind him and his business model seems to be to refuse to pay his bills after getting work done.
[/quote]Wise up FFS
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In fairness there are numerous occasions of bankruptcies and also unpaid debts which he seemingly just ignores, this isn't to take away from his riches but he has failed alot of people in money that he owes them over the years.
I can't see how he can be rated as a good businessman, perhaps a showman yes but he is not the brains of the operation.

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« Reply #10460 on: October 13, 2017, 01:36:21 PM »


If Trump started with nothing then you might have something. He started with a million bucks his dad gave him. If he'd put that money in a mutual fund he'd be a lot wealthier than he is today. He has a string of bankruptcies behind him and his business model seems to be to refuse to pay his bills after getting work done.
Wise up FFS
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In fairness there are numerous occasions of bankruptcies and also unpaid debts which he seemingly just ignores, this isn't to take away from his riches but he has failed alot of people in money that he owes them over the years.
I can't see how he can be rated as a good businessman, perhaps a showman yes but he is not the brains of the operation.
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About ten years ago I worked for a small company that did a lot of work for big NY real estate outfits, but refused to do business with Trump because he’d stiffed them a few times. And they were far from alone, according to the numerous stories that came out in the campaign.

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« Reply #10461 on: October 13, 2017, 02:19:51 PM »
He really has no self-awareness

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« Reply #10462 on: October 13, 2017, 02:53:14 PM »


If Trump started with nothing then you might have something. He started with a million bucks his dad gave him. If he'd put that money in a mutual fund he'd be a lot wealthier than he is today. He has a string of bankruptcies behind him and his business model seems to be to refuse to pay his bills after getting work done.
Wise up FFS

In fairness there are numerous occasions of bankruptcies and also unpaid debts which he seemingly just ignores, this isn't to take away from his riches but he has failed alot of people in money that he owes them over the years.
I can't see how he can be rated as a good businessman, perhaps a showman yes but he is not the brains of the operation.
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About ten years ago I worked for a small company that did a lot of work for big NY real estate outfits, but refused to do business with Trump because he’d stiffed them a few times. And they were far from alone, according to the numerous stories that came out in the campaign.
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www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Philly-cabinetmaker-We-went-broke-after-Trump-stiffed-us.html%3Famphtml=y

Did you ever see this fella interviewed.

Not only did Trump stiff them, he then got them blackballed because they sued.Put them out of business

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« Reply #10463 on: October 13, 2017, 03:51:17 PM »
Despicable.

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« Reply #10464 on: October 13, 2017, 04:51:33 PM »
Foxy,
Wholeheartedly agree about the point scoring on both sides.

Though why you all still care about Hilary is beyond me. It's over, she lost. So what if it's 5 days later, private uninvolved citizen at this point?

The pious w**kers crack me up too,  and if anyone on this board wants to see a hypocrite, look in the mirror, we are human and we justify our own shit to ourselves. But closet politicians being hard on the gay community, socialists with Swiss bank accounts, family first advocates with mistresses, don't make hypocrisy your job.

I think the biggest issue with Hillary is the fact she has made herself a self appointed champion of women (glass ceiling etc). I'm glad she finally made a statement but I don't think she really had a choice in this instance but to stick in the knife.
As for the private citizen comment  - If you've been following her book tour you'll find that it's turned into a "why did I lose" tour and she hasn't quite given up hope of ousting President Trump to take the white house - especially if they can find anything in the russia probe (which is BS). She's still battling away for the democrats (even it they don't want her to)

There's a lot of Hollywood scrambling right now and will be sweating it that they are next on the chopping block. Ben Affleck has been first up defending himself for historic behaviour. There's bound to be more.

Not that Hollywood should be used as a moral compass or anything. It's amazing how all this has been kept in house for so long, especially in that industry. The fact that you've had so many celebrities condemning Trump and backing democrats/Clinton while at the same time keeping these big secrets is what really stands out.

It's an open goal for republicans and in recent times they have hardly been in the opponents half.
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« Reply #10465 on: October 13, 2017, 05:58:45 PM »
Foxy,
Wholeheartedly agree about the point scoring on both sides.

Though why you all still care about Hilary is beyond me. It's over, she lost. So what if it's 5 days later, private uninvolved citizen at this point?

The pious w**kers crack me up too,  and if anyone on this board wants to see a hypocrite, look in the mirror, we are human and we justify our own shit to ourselves. But closet politicians being hard on the gay community, socialists with Swiss bank accounts, family first advocates with mistresses, don't make hypocrisy your job.

Interestingly Hegan I just found this article

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2017/1013/912172-hillary-clinton-harvey-weinstein/

Democrats deflecting the Weinstein scandal by using Trump as a comparison.
But not Bill, he was innocent LOL :D

They won't allow weinstein to hang on his own merits. Politics at it's best.
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« Reply #10466 on: October 13, 2017, 06:31:11 PM »
Donnie d**khead said this morning he met with the President of the Virgin Islands when touring hurricane damage. He is the President of the Virgin Islands  ::)

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/918847309928071168

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« Reply #10467 on: October 13, 2017, 09:38:57 PM »
Donnie d**khead said this morning he met with the President of the Virgin Islands when touring hurricane damage. He is the President of the Virgin Islands  ::)

https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/918847309928071168

“I think he’s crazy,” Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.) confided to his colleague Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) in a July exchange inadvertently caught on a microphone. (“I’m worried,” she replied.) CNN’s Don Lemon, flabbergasted after a Trump speech last month, concluded that “he’s unhinged. . . . There was no sanity there.” Even some Republicans have grown more blunt, with Sen. Bob Corker (Tenn.) recently suggesting that Trump “has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence” to succeed as president
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« Reply #10468 on: October 13, 2017, 10:19:45 PM »
CNN’s Don Lemon, flabbergasted after a Trump speech last month, concluded that “he’s unhinged. . . . There was no sanity there.”

Are you talking about the same unpartisan Don Lemon from CNN ?

He's a liberal repeater. Fake news merchant.
and more besides.



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« Reply #10469 on: October 14, 2017, 12:19:47 AM »
CNN’s Don Lemon, flabbergasted after a Trump speech last month, concluded that “he’s unhinged. . . . There was no sanity there.”

Are you talking about the same unpartisan Don Lemon from CNN ?

He's a liberal repeater. Fake news merchant.
and more besides.

Worse than that! he is the village idiot in a village full of idiots, he is unprepared, extreme far left and an absolute moron, the Milwaukee County ex sheriff abused his stupid ass!lemon by name and nature.

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