Antrim Hurling

Started by milltown row, January 26, 2007, 11:21:26 AM

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theskull1

#27315
A question or two for the whingers

How much coaching effort have you put in trying to develop players who are "good enough"?

If the answer is little or none then shouldn't you consider getting on board and help develop IC quality forwards? Sounds like it's a handy enough thing to do.

Very little it would seem would have us at the other end of the table. Tell us in a bit of detail about the acheiveable steps needed to bring us on?

Is there anything you'd like to say about the dedication and effort KR and the panel has put in?


As Henry Shefflin said himself, it's easy when you're from KK to commit but the real hero's are those from counties who know they won't have success but still put in serious effort for their cause.









It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Seamroga in exile

#27316
It's very difficult to commit when players do go and are obviously, from the get go, made to feel like persona non grata. It's been happening for three years. but sure me, my fellow posters from loughgiel and people in general from loughgiel are wrong to question what's going on. Correct?

One league win in three years is not good enough. In any other line of work that would be obvious. There's too many people willing to keep their heads in the sand over this. We've tried communicating with the County management but keep getting the same response. You get what you give.


"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

theskull1

Just ignore those questions then SIE.

Ordhran Chrissie and Eddie (til he bowed out) being there would suggest you're as ever trying to keep a storm alive that most of us would like to see blow over.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to what "good enough" should be for our current playing population relative to the other counties considering the apathy/lack of support that exists in this county? Just how much better could you make us?
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Seamroga in exile

#27318
We're doing what we can within our club. Contrary to popular belief (on here) there's nothing we would love to see more than more loughgiel players on the County panel. As I stated before, Eddie wasn't the only County panellist at that football match. Yet he's the one that gets castigated for it. Double standards? We think so. But what's new about that where loughgiel players are concerned under this regime?

I'm not going to defend Eddie on this, but I will let you know the facts, Again. He was called up to the County panel last year by Ryan via a Phone call. He was then notified by text that he wasn't a few hours later after Ryan talked to his captain and his mates. This year Eddie committed from the start. He Was ostracized from the start By the chosen one and his mates.  He questioned the training from the start. No actual hurling training in two months. That was his gripe. Fair enough?



"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

theskull1

Again no answers to the big questions

Whinge Whinge Whinge but no solutions to take us to where you think we should be or opinions as to where our level should be.
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Seamroga in exile

Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Again no answers to the big questions

Whinge Whinge Whinge but no solutions to take us to where you think we should be or opinions as to where our level should be.
getting all the clubs behind a management set up that all clubs believe in would be a start.  ::)
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

hurlingstick

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2015, 09:12:09 AM
Quote from: hurlingstick on March 28, 2015, 08:01:39 PM
My point is that they definitely will improve come championship like they have the past 2 years.

Well they couldn't get any worse than last night so you're correct in one sense.   Dublin didn't play regular first team players last night... They certainly have even more to give.... Tipp the best team so far by a good margin they seemed to be going all out this year, worth a punt

Dublin beat Tipp by 12 points this year

theskull1

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Again no answers to the big questions

Whinge Whinge Whinge but no solutions to take us to where you think we should be or opinions as to where our level should be.
getting all the clubs behind a management set up that all clubs believe in would be a start.  ::)

Keep going
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Seamroga in exile

Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Again no answers to the big questions

Whinge Whinge Whinge but no solutions to take us to where you think we should be or opinions as to where our level should be.
getting all the clubs behind a management set up that all clubs believe in would be a start.  ::)

Keep going
having the players at all age groups playing to a actual system would be another major advancement.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

Seamroga in exile

On another note, a great days hurling on tg4 the day. Brilliant.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

theskull1

Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 12:37:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Again no answers to the big questions

Whinge Whinge Whinge but no solutions to take us to where you think we should be or opinions as to where our level should be.
getting all the clubs behind a management set up that all clubs believe in would be a start.  ::)

Keep going
having the players at all age groups playing to a actual system would be another major advancement.

Can we stick to what is achievable SIE with what we have. How in the name of God would any county let alone our be able to bring that about?
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Seamroga in exile

Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 01:37:59 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 12:37:26 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: Seamroga in exile on March 29, 2015, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
Again no answers to the big questions

Whinge Whinge Whinge but no solutions to take us to where you think we should be or opinions as to where our level should be.
getting all the clubs behind a management set up that all clubs believe in would be a start.  ::)

Keep going
having the players at all age groups playing to a actual system would be another major advancement.

Can we stick to what is achievable SIE with what we have. How in the name of God would any county let alone our be able to bring that about?
I'm talking about the players playing for the County at all age groups from under 16 up. Surely it's not beyond the realms of possibility that Ryan can talk to the coaches and get a system installed that all players can buy in to. So that when it's time to step up an age group the lads know what's expected of them. Team work and camaraderie are sadly lacking at senior level, that needs to be improved. All players working to the same end goal would help with that. But sure, I can dream.  ;)
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

theskull1

Yeah surely SIE

And you'd be confident that we have the coaching population with the right numbers and quality and organisation to bring this about year on year on year?

Surely? Really?

I'd say you are dreaming yes. In reality we haven't the right numbers of people prepared to coach the game and numbers interested to make it something for enough players to want to aspire to play at the top level.


It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Seamroga in exile

#27328
Quote from: theskull1 on March 29, 2015, 02:06:43 PM
Yeah surely SIE

And you'd be confident that we have the coaching population with the right numbers and quality and organisation to bring this about year on year on year?

Surely? Really?

I'd say you are dreaming yes. In reality we haven't the right numbers of people prepared to coach the game and numbers interested to make it something for enough players to want to aspire to play at the top level.
I understand that we have to work with what we've got, but there is a an anomaly when it comes to communication in this county. That can be fixed.
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"

Seamroga in exile

#27329
Colin and Michael Fennely, Joey Holden and tj Reid all playing for Kilkenny today. And playing well. They haven't been with the County panel since last year. Interesting that.  :-X
"What we've got here is failure to communicate"