Hurling 2024

Started by seafoid, January 01, 2023, 08:24:25 PM

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seafoid

Limerick 7
Kilkenny 5
Clare    2
Galway   1

The difference between 5 and 1 was a jammy goal.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2023/1115/1416662-limerick-and-kilkenny-dozen-on-all-star-hurling-team/

In the early 80s the finalists got 6.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

In 1983 Nicky English won an All Star based on his potential. Tipp won nothing.It would be another 4 years before they won Munster for the first time since 1971.  He must have only been 21 or 22. He subsequently  became one of the greats. The All Stars now are more like the Ballon D'or. There is no room for developing stars.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

marty34

Quote from: seafoid on November 16, 2023, 08:59:32 AMLimerick 7
Kilkenny 5
Clare    2
Galway   1

The difference between 5 and 1 was a jammy goal.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2023/1115/1416662-limerick-and-kilkenny-dozen-on-all-star-hurling-team/

In the early 80s the finalists got 6.

Galway were average enough this year and only Whelan deserved one.

Kilkenny will be happy with 5.  Limerick lads will, no doubt, add on a few more before the end of their careers. Hard to catch Henry on 11. Unreal!

Great recognition for the players at the end of the year. Well deserved.  Nice individual honour.

seafoid

Quote from: marty34 on November 16, 2023, 06:03:27 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 16, 2023, 08:59:32 AMLimerick 7
Kilkenny 5
Clare    2
Galway   1

The difference between 5 and 1 was a jammy goal.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2023/1115/1416662-limerick-and-kilkenny-dozen-on-all-star-hurling-team/

In the early 80s the finalists got 6.

Galway were average enough this year and only Whelan deserved one.

Kilkenny will be happy with 5.  Limerick lads will, no doubt, add on a few more before the end of their careers. Hard to catch Henry on 11. Unreal!

Great recognition for the players at the end of the year. Well deserved.  Nice individual honour.
Limerick are still far ahead. Leading the Peleton are KK, Galway and Clare. There is very little  between them. The All-stars do not reflect this. The focus on the final distorts the reality imo. 
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

imtommygunn

Ultimately they are individual awards though and take for example KK - Eoin Cody, Lawlor, Butler etc are outstanding individuals. Limerick are much better as a team and tbh as individuals they are too but had a bit of churn this year with injuries or would deserve more. (Incidentally I actually don't think their 2 midfielders deserved one).

Clare have some outstanding individuals but Tony Kelly just hasn't performed on the big occasion too many times to get one - I would agree he didn't deserve one and the others just didn't do enough. Galway weren't really at it this year tbh.


johnnycool

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Quote from: imtommygunn on November 17, 2023, 08:57:05 AMUltimately they are individual awards though and take for example KK - Eoin Cody, Lawlor, Butler etc are outstanding individuals. Limerick are much better as a team and tbh as individuals they are too but had a bit of churn this year with injuries or would deserve more. (Incidentally I actually don't think their 2 midfielders deserved one).

Clare have some outstanding individuals but Tony Kelly just hasn't performed on the big occasion too many times to get one - I would agree he didn't deserve one and the others just didn't do enough. Galway weren't really at it this year tbh.



Yet Butler gets one for keeping him quiet??

Don't agree on the TJ Reid one but this happens all the time with great hurlers in their twilight years pick up a few extra baubles, same as Henry at Horgan.


seafoid

Kilkenny got sucker punched in the final like Galway in the semi. Neither team had an answer. It is probably better to lose a semi in that scenario. Losing finals is horrible.
 
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

imtommygunn

That ball from Peter duggan for Clare's first goal was something else.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: imtommygunn on February 04, 2024, 03:11:48 PMThat ball from Peter duggan for Clare's first goal was something else.

Was decent game, the Kilkenny Wexford game (on Twitter at least) looked good

Antrim had a strong 25 minutes against Limerick! Hiding now
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

didlyi

Quote from: imtommygunn on February 04, 2024, 03:11:48 PMThat ball from Peter duggan for Clare's first goal was something else.
That was David Fitzgerald....

imtommygunn

 ;D  I realised this when I watched it back.

Usually want to see the antrim games on tv but not that one. Going to be a tough year.

marty34

Some sideline pass on Saturday by Tipp's O'Meara (iirc).

Unreal pass on a patchy enough pitch.

johnnycool

Quote from: didlyi on February 05, 2024, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 04, 2024, 03:11:48 PMThat ball from Peter duggan for Clare's first goal was something else.
That was David Fitzgerald....

Early days but Cork still haven't resolved their issues of a ball winner in their forwards, granted Barrett made a difference when he came on, but for the most part the Clare backs weren't too phased by the Cork forwards even with a few first teamers missing.

Wexford hopefully will be the dark horses this year with Rossiter in charge. They've a good few talented players in their ranks, hopefully a more ambitious gameplan and key lads avoiding injury could see them give the Leinster championship a good rattle to challenge the Kilkenny, Galway hegemony.

marty34

#1138
Quote from: johnnycool on February 05, 2024, 04:02:26 PM
Quote from: didlyi on February 05, 2024, 10:46:19 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 04, 2024, 03:11:48 PMThat ball from Peter duggan for Clare's first goal was something else.
That was David Fitzgerald....

Early days but Cork still haven't resolved their issues of a ball winner in their forwards, granted Barrett made a difference when he came on, but for the most part the Clare backs weren't too phased by the Cork forwards even with a few first teamers missing.

Wexford hopefully will be the dark horses this year with Rossiter in charge. They've a good few talented players in their ranks, hopefully a more ambitious gameplan and key lads avoiding injury could see them give the Leinster championship a good rattle to challenge the Kilkenny, Galway hegemony.

Issue is Pat Horgan and Conor Lehane are still starting these days.  Probably a few others of the older guard are still there.

In anything, these lads should be rested until the drier sod and the sun is higher in the sky.  Time to blood new lads in the league and let them get at it.

Milltown Row2

I get what your are saying but its been very hard for Cork to replace the likes of Horgan, the man weighs in with 10 or more points (granted a lot are frees) but to an extent he wins a few of them himself and he's been their best target man.

I think its difficult to just 'save' players and hope they find their form coming the drier sod, Cork, traditionally should be performing better with the pick of players they have to choose from over other counties, that's their biggest issue.

I enjoyed yesterdays game and Clare showing they have plenty of depth too, to their squad, its sustaining a run of wins to win Liam in the Championship that they are falling down on, and Limerick ;)
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea