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#16
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 26, 2023, 11:27:20 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 25, 2023, 02:27:44 PM
Cork have the problem Galway had for a long time. The difficulty of getting the team up to the right level after a period of mediocrity. If the team doesn't have the right attitude, bringing promising young players into it usually won't change the dynamic . Cork should have recovered from the 2006 final but they still haven't. From 1980 on they were worth around 2 all Irelands per decade but this has dropped to 0 in the 10s.

Corks problem is tippy tappy Hurling and the fact that the club game is gone marsh mellow soft down there

Galways problem for a long time used to be the opposite, talented Galway minors getting beheaded when they stepped up and played in senior club games

#17
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 26, 2023, 11:23:52 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 24, 2023, 07:39:50 PM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 24, 2023, 05:25:36 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 24, 2023, 04:09:03 PM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 24, 2023, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 23, 2023, 05:40:05 PM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 23, 2023, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 23, 2023, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 23, 2023, 09:19:43 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 23, 2023, 08:59:16 AM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 23, 2023, 08:41:15 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 22, 2023, 04:58:01 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on May 22, 2023, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 22, 2023, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on May 22, 2023, 03:01:13 PM
How is it a closed shop if Kerry win the Joe Mc and get into the Munster Championship based on results?

Are you saying they should be parachuted over other Joe McDonagh level teams purely because they are based in Munster?

As regards weaker counties developing hurling

Kilkenny for  all the bad press with regards to them and football

they still have 30 plus of their clubs playing football

Where are the equivalent counties that would be strong in football and have 30 of their clubs  playing hurling?

The fact is,there isn't

They are the only county in Munster not playing in it.

Westmeath and Antrim are in the Leinster championship. Are you saying to me that Kerry wouldn't give them a good game?

You do know how the Joe McDonagh competition works ?

Are you saying they should get promoted to the Liam McCarthy over every other county in the Joe Mc  purely on the fact that they are based in Munster ?

Yeah, I am saying that. They're the only team in Munster not playing in Munster. I'd may an exception.

Seems like the big boys want to keep a closed shop - for all the grá of hurling in Munster, it's a clear case of hurling snobbery at its finest.

By the way, if you're so excerised over the the Joe Mc Donagh, are you saying the winners and runners up should qualify instead of the 4th placed teams in Leinster and Munster?

such absolute drivel

Firstly you didn't know that if Kerry won the Joe Mc Donagh, they would be in the Munster Championship

Then you wanted Kerry taken out of the Joe McDonagh and put in Munster regardless even thought they aren't good enough to win it at the minute and over the heads of all the other teams competing in the Joe McDonagh

Now its a grand conspiracy by the Hurling Elite to keep hurling down

Liam Griffin had a motion before congress that every Gaa club would have a hurling team up to u9/11

Everyone of your downtrodden northern counties voted against it

how about you start there with your "closed shop" bull shit

You are probably fully aware that barring Antrim all the other northern counties are footballing dominated and the county boards reflect that in their decision making.

Liams motion was well intended but impractical and what I'd prefer that Croke park insist that there's certain days of the week/month set aside for hurling only.

Go games blitzes be organised within the county and kids who want to hurl but are from a football only play for amalgamations organised by the counties GDO's.

Kids will play anything if given the chance, but far too many CB's and clubs make kids decide on one or the other. Let's allocate slots so that this isn't the case.

Dublin used to do this, probably still do where each alternate Saturday morning is rotated between hurling and football. More counties need to adopt this approach.

so its now Footballs fault

and here we were being told it was the "Hurling Elite" keeping hurling down

Liam Griffins proposal was impractical and yet you are suggesting weeks or god help us Months being set aside for Hurling when there's not enough teams in those counties to play hurling in the first instance

You grow hurling from the ground up and you grow with kids of u9,introducing the game to kids of 12 and older is nearly a waste of time

if they dont have the basics by 8/9/10

you are at nothing

As I say, such a positive attitude to the young GAA lad/lassies all over Ireland.

Stay in the B team as you're rubbish at picking the ball at 9 years old.

As a matter of fact, don't come back as you're no good.

I hope you're not coaching U9's or U10's.

Great attitude.

And you are an awful eejit to even type all that

Ger Loughnane who would know a thing more about Hurling than you has often stated that you need to have the basics by the time you are 6 or 7

That the difference between the strong hurling counties and the weak

In the Strong the Hurley is an extension of a young lads arm

in the weak its a 2 hours a week training session at best

Holy Cow - quoting Loughnane in 2023!

Now you're saying if you don't have the basics by 6 or 7...instead of 9 or 10.

Whatever you say Coach.

This just shows you up for how little you actually know when it comes to Hurling

Anyone that knows anything about Hurling would know the quicker you get a hurley into a young lads hand and then the more often they practice, the more proficient they will get

that holds true in 2023 the same as it did in 2003 or 1993

As for looking down your nose at Ger Loughnane

You and your county would be delighted with yourselves if you achieved a tenth of what he achieved

Says the coach who discards any kid who can't pick the ball up by 6 or 7.

Wise up.

Christ your some fool

Point out exactly where i said that

You clearly dont have a clue about Hurling but are arrogant enough to display your ignorance on here

This is your quote:

You grow hurling from the ground up and you grow with kids of u9,introducing the game to kids of 12 and older is nearly a waste of time

if they dont have the basics by 8/9/10

you are at nothing

You are at nothing - such a statement.  Then you bring Loughnane into it using a younger age group.  FFS. A few posters pulled you up on it.

Good debate on another thread about the merits of Go Games and competitive blitzes etc.  You should read it - differing opinions on how to develop young players.

You might learn a thing or two.

Down Lad with all the answers to developing Hurlers

When can we see the fruits of yere labours?
#18
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 24, 2023, 05:33:32 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 24, 2023, 04:18:20 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 24, 2023, 02:27:26 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 24, 2023, 01:43:51 PM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 24, 2023, 01:03:10 PM

Leinster looks to have fallen into Europa Conference territory rather than Europa League.

Kilkenny & Galway stroll and Wexford look set for relegation.

What can be done to make it a more balanced Championship plus all reviews and previews.


Click link to listen via

Website

https://thepremierviewpodcast.com/epsode/munster-hurling-has-no-equal

Spotify

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6yYruwCtRp2YBmQp1wAvcV
Interesting but this is because Limerick slipped back into the pack. It's a fantastic summer of hurling with each week better than the previous one but it may not happen again for 5 years.
Wexford have an injury crisis which is not permanent either. Wexford have a decent underage record.

Another podcast touched on Wexford persisting with lads who're obviously not fully fit which begs the question is there no confidence from Management on some of the panelists and did they blood enough younger players during the league. Irrespective they really should be seeing off Westmeath at their leisure and deal with high balls better than they did.

Also, Lets call it for what it is, a much improved Tipp (from last year) drew with a playing poorly Limerick, Limerick sort out their malaise, which isn't a given and we'll know more this weekend and they're still favourites to win the AI. Limerick shot selections poor on the day again with a very poor return.
Kiely certainly called out a few stars who failed to perform on Sunday after getting taken off, so it'll be interesting if they respond in kind. I think he also needs to introduce some fresh blood, something Cody did every once in a while managed to do to keep them on top.

As for the Leinster v Munster champions league/conference comment, I wouldn't be betting too much on Clare or Tipp beating either Galway or Kilkenny later on this summer. Don't confuse a closeness in the games with quality as we saw when KK overturned Clare with ease last summer.
Both Leinster teams have the ability/opportunity to peak later on in the year, the Munster counties have been hammering seven bells out of each other the last few weeks.

Yeah, real action only starts in Croke Park.

Leinster teams are waiting in the long grass!

As an aside, a point almost missed at the week-end was T.J. becoming top scorer in the championship on Saturday. Some achievement.  It was mentioned on GAA Go and then Pat Horgan overtook him on Sunday.  Another fine achievement. 

Who goes the furtherest in this years championship could define the top scorer ever in the hurling championship.  What an accolade that is to have.  GAA should be making more of these lads rivalry as it's unprecedented.

Imagine T.J., Pat, Joe and Seamie all making their debuts inside a week of each other and are still going strong years later and the scores they're racked up.  4 of the finest.  As I say a great achievement.

Kilkenny havent won an All Ireland since 2015
Wexford since 1996
Dublin since 1938

I guess We best include Galway since they won it in 2017

Munster teams have won 7 out of the last 10 All Irelands
#19
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 24, 2023, 05:25:36 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 24, 2023, 04:09:03 PM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 24, 2023, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 23, 2023, 05:40:05 PM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 23, 2023, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 23, 2023, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 23, 2023, 09:19:43 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 23, 2023, 08:59:16 AM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 23, 2023, 08:41:15 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 22, 2023, 04:58:01 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on May 22, 2023, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 22, 2023, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on May 22, 2023, 03:01:13 PM
How is it a closed shop if Kerry win the Joe Mc and get into the Munster Championship based on results?

Are you saying they should be parachuted over other Joe McDonagh level teams purely because they are based in Munster?

As regards weaker counties developing hurling

Kilkenny for  all the bad press with regards to them and football

they still have 30 plus of their clubs playing football

Where are the equivalent counties that would be strong in football and have 30 of their clubs  playing hurling?

The fact is,there isn't

They are the only county in Munster not playing in it.

Westmeath and Antrim are in the Leinster championship. Are you saying to me that Kerry wouldn't give them a good game?

You do know how the Joe McDonagh competition works ?

Are you saying they should get promoted to the Liam McCarthy over every other county in the Joe Mc  purely on the fact that they are based in Munster ?

Yeah, I am saying that. They're the only team in Munster not playing in Munster. I'd may an exception.

Seems like the big boys want to keep a closed shop - for all the grá of hurling in Munster, it's a clear case of hurling snobbery at its finest.

By the way, if you're so excerised over the the Joe Mc Donagh, are you saying the winners and runners up should qualify instead of the 4th placed teams in Leinster and Munster?

such absolute drivel

Firstly you didn't know that if Kerry won the Joe Mc Donagh, they would be in the Munster Championship

Then you wanted Kerry taken out of the Joe McDonagh and put in Munster regardless even thought they aren't good enough to win it at the minute and over the heads of all the other teams competing in the Joe McDonagh

Now its a grand conspiracy by the Hurling Elite to keep hurling down

Liam Griffin had a motion before congress that every Gaa club would have a hurling team up to u9/11

Everyone of your downtrodden northern counties voted against it

how about you start there with your "closed shop" bull shit

You are probably fully aware that barring Antrim all the other northern counties are footballing dominated and the county boards reflect that in their decision making.

Liams motion was well intended but impractical and what I'd prefer that Croke park insist that there's certain days of the week/month set aside for hurling only.

Go games blitzes be organised within the county and kids who want to hurl but are from a football only play for amalgamations organised by the counties GDO's.

Kids will play anything if given the chance, but far too many CB's and clubs make kids decide on one or the other. Let's allocate slots so that this isn't the case.

Dublin used to do this, probably still do where each alternate Saturday morning is rotated between hurling and football. More counties need to adopt this approach.

so its now Footballs fault

and here we were being told it was the "Hurling Elite" keeping hurling down

Liam Griffins proposal was impractical and yet you are suggesting weeks or god help us Months being set aside for Hurling when there's not enough teams in those counties to play hurling in the first instance

You grow hurling from the ground up and you grow with kids of u9,introducing the game to kids of 12 and older is nearly a waste of time

if they dont have the basics by 8/9/10

you are at nothing

As I say, such a positive attitude to the young GAA lad/lassies all over Ireland.

Stay in the B team as you're rubbish at picking the ball at 9 years old.

As a matter of fact, don't come back as you're no good.

I hope you're not coaching U9's or U10's.

Great attitude.

And you are an awful eejit to even type all that

Ger Loughnane who would know a thing more about Hurling than you has often stated that you need to have the basics by the time you are 6 or 7

That the difference between the strong hurling counties and the weak

In the Strong the Hurley is an extension of a young lads arm

in the weak its a 2 hours a week training session at best

Holy Cow - quoting Loughnane in 2023!

Now you're saying if you don't have the basics by 6 or 7...instead of 9 or 10.

Whatever you say Coach.

This just shows you up for how little you actually know when it comes to Hurling

Anyone that knows anything about Hurling would know the quicker you get a hurley into a young lads hand and then the more often they practice, the more proficient they will get

that holds true in 2023 the same as it did in 2003 or 1993

As for looking down your nose at Ger Loughnane

You and your county would be delighted with yourselves if you achieved a tenth of what he achieved

Says the coach who discards any kid who can't pick the ball up by 6 or 7.

Wise up.

Christ your some fool

Point out exactly where i said that

You clearly dont have a clue about Hurling but are arrogant enough to display your ignorance on here
#20
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 24, 2023, 01:03:10 PM

Leinster looks to have fallen into Europa Conference territory rather than Europa League.

Kilkenny & Galway stroll and Wexford look set for relegation.

What can be done to make it a more balanced Championship plus all reviews and previews.


Click link to listen via

Website

https://thepremierviewpodcast.com/epsode/munster-hurling-has-no-equal

Spotify

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6yYruwCtRp2YBmQp1wAvcV


#21
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 24, 2023, 09:29:27 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 23, 2023, 04:39:24 PM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 23, 2023, 04:11:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 23, 2023, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 23, 2023, 03:10:36 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 23, 2023, 03:08:22 PM
Galway hurling was in a bad way from the mid 50s until the early 70s. The Republic Of Ireland soccer team went through a similar experience during some of that time and didn't win a match for several years. Galway had an awful time in Munster. They probably wouldn't have been Joe McDonagh standard at the time.

Galway still massively under performing at senior level in relation to their juvenile success.
So has everyone since 2017.
The context is very different for Galway compared to the 60s.

Since Galway won the Senior All Ireland in 1988

They have been in a total of 37 Minor and u20/21 All Ireland finals

Winning 13 Minor All Irelands and 9 u20/21 All Ireland Titles

They have managed from that to win 1 Senior all Ireland

So Yeah by any metric they have underperformed
Obviously. Next thing you'll declare that Mayo's all Ireland productivity is suboptimal.
The question is what happens from here, especially if Limerick are operating at a lower level compared to recent years.
There should be a few all Irelands available. Tipp could win one in every 2. What is the problem with doing back to back ?

looks like I touched a nerve

Heres the reality for ye Galway Boys

Ye cant turn minor and u20/21 All Ireland winning Hurlers into Senior All Ireland Winning Hurlers

Until Ye figure that one out,Ye will be continue winning 1 in a rows every 30 Years.
#22
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 24, 2023, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 23, 2023, 05:40:05 PM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 23, 2023, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 23, 2023, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 23, 2023, 09:19:43 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 23, 2023, 08:59:16 AM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 23, 2023, 08:41:15 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 22, 2023, 04:58:01 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on May 22, 2023, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 22, 2023, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on May 22, 2023, 03:01:13 PM
How is it a closed shop if Kerry win the Joe Mc and get into the Munster Championship based on results?

Are you saying they should be parachuted over other Joe McDonagh level teams purely because they are based in Munster?

As regards weaker counties developing hurling

Kilkenny for  all the bad press with regards to them and football

they still have 30 plus of their clubs playing football

Where are the equivalent counties that would be strong in football and have 30 of their clubs  playing hurling?

The fact is,there isn't

They are the only county in Munster not playing in it.

Westmeath and Antrim are in the Leinster championship. Are you saying to me that Kerry wouldn't give them a good game?

You do know how the Joe McDonagh competition works ?

Are you saying they should get promoted to the Liam McCarthy over every other county in the Joe Mc  purely on the fact that they are based in Munster ?

Yeah, I am saying that. They're the only team in Munster not playing in Munster. I'd may an exception.

Seems like the big boys want to keep a closed shop - for all the grá of hurling in Munster, it's a clear case of hurling snobbery at its finest.

By the way, if you're so excerised over the the Joe Mc Donagh, are you saying the winners and runners up should qualify instead of the 4th placed teams in Leinster and Munster?

such absolute drivel

Firstly you didn't know that if Kerry won the Joe Mc Donagh, they would be in the Munster Championship

Then you wanted Kerry taken out of the Joe McDonagh and put in Munster regardless even thought they aren't good enough to win it at the minute and over the heads of all the other teams competing in the Joe McDonagh

Now its a grand conspiracy by the Hurling Elite to keep hurling down

Liam Griffin had a motion before congress that every Gaa club would have a hurling team up to u9/11

Everyone of your downtrodden northern counties voted against it

how about you start there with your "closed shop" bull shit

You are probably fully aware that barring Antrim all the other northern counties are footballing dominated and the county boards reflect that in their decision making.

Liams motion was well intended but impractical and what I'd prefer that Croke park insist that there's certain days of the week/month set aside for hurling only.

Go games blitzes be organised within the county and kids who want to hurl but are from a football only play for amalgamations organised by the counties GDO's.

Kids will play anything if given the chance, but far too many CB's and clubs make kids decide on one or the other. Let's allocate slots so that this isn't the case.

Dublin used to do this, probably still do where each alternate Saturday morning is rotated between hurling and football. More counties need to adopt this approach.

so its now Footballs fault

and here we were being told it was the "Hurling Elite" keeping hurling down

Liam Griffins proposal was impractical and yet you are suggesting weeks or god help us Months being set aside for Hurling when there's not enough teams in those counties to play hurling in the first instance

You grow hurling from the ground up and you grow with kids of u9,introducing the game to kids of 12 and older is nearly a waste of time

if they dont have the basics by 8/9/10

you are at nothing

As I say, such a positive attitude to the young GAA lad/lassies all over Ireland.

Stay in the B team as you're rubbish at picking the ball at 9 years old.

As a matter of fact, don't come back as you're no good.

I hope you're not coaching U9's or U10's.

Great attitude.

And you are an awful eejit to even type all that

Ger Loughnane who would know a thing more about Hurling than you has often stated that you need to have the basics by the time you are 6 or 7

That the difference between the strong hurling counties and the weak

In the Strong the Hurley is an extension of a young lads arm

in the weak its a 2 hours a week training session at best

Holy Cow - quoting Loughnane in 2023!

Now you're saying if you don't have the basics by 6 or 7...instead of 9 or 10.

Whatever you say Coach.

This just shows you up for how little you actually know when it comes to Hurling

Anyone that knows anything about Hurling would know the quicker you get a hurley into a young lads hand and then the more often they practice, the more proficient they will get

that holds true in 2023 the same as it did in 2003 or 1993

As for looking down your nose at Ger Loughnane

You and your county would be delighted with yourselves if you achieved a tenth of what he achieved
#23
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 23, 2023, 04:11:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 23, 2023, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on May 23, 2023, 03:10:36 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 23, 2023, 03:08:22 PM
Galway hurling was in a bad way from the mid 50s until the early 70s. The Republic Of Ireland soccer team went through a similar experience during some of that time and didn't win a match for several years. Galway had an awful time in Munster. They probably wouldn't have been Joe McDonagh standard at the time.

Galway still massively under performing at senior level in relation to their juvenile success.
So has everyone since 2017.
The context is very different for Galway compared to the 60s.

Since Galway won the Senior All Ireland in 1988

They have been in a total of 37 Minor and u20/21 All Ireland finals

Winning 13 Minor All Irelands and 9 u20/21 All Ireland Titles

They have managed from that to win 1 Senior all Ireland

So Yeah by any metric they have underperformed



#24
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 23, 2023, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 23, 2023, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 23, 2023, 09:19:43 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 23, 2023, 08:59:16 AM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 23, 2023, 08:41:15 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 22, 2023, 04:58:01 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on May 22, 2023, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 22, 2023, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on May 22, 2023, 03:01:13 PM
How is it a closed shop if Kerry win the Joe Mc and get into the Munster Championship based on results?

Are you saying they should be parachuted over other Joe McDonagh level teams purely because they are based in Munster?

As regards weaker counties developing hurling

Kilkenny for  all the bad press with regards to them and football

they still have 30 plus of their clubs playing football

Where are the equivalent counties that would be strong in football and have 30 of their clubs  playing hurling?

The fact is,there isn't

They are the only county in Munster not playing in it.

Westmeath and Antrim are in the Leinster championship. Are you saying to me that Kerry wouldn't give them a good game?

You do know how the Joe McDonagh competition works ?

Are you saying they should get promoted to the Liam McCarthy over every other county in the Joe Mc  purely on the fact that they are based in Munster ?

Yeah, I am saying that. They're the only team in Munster not playing in Munster. I'd may an exception.

Seems like the big boys want to keep a closed shop - for all the grá of hurling in Munster, it's a clear case of hurling snobbery at its finest.

By the way, if you're so excerised over the the Joe Mc Donagh, are you saying the winners and runners up should qualify instead of the 4th placed teams in Leinster and Munster?

such absolute drivel

Firstly you didn't know that if Kerry won the Joe Mc Donagh, they would be in the Munster Championship

Then you wanted Kerry taken out of the Joe McDonagh and put in Munster regardless even thought they aren't good enough to win it at the minute and over the heads of all the other teams competing in the Joe McDonagh

Now its a grand conspiracy by the Hurling Elite to keep hurling down

Liam Griffin had a motion before congress that every Gaa club would have a hurling team up to u9/11

Everyone of your downtrodden northern counties voted against it

how about you start there with your "closed shop" bull shit

You are probably fully aware that barring Antrim all the other northern counties are footballing dominated and the county boards reflect that in their decision making.

Liams motion was well intended but impractical and what I'd prefer that Croke park insist that there's certain days of the week/month set aside for hurling only.

Go games blitzes be organised within the county and kids who want to hurl but are from a football only play for amalgamations organised by the counties GDO's.

Kids will play anything if given the chance, but far too many CB's and clubs make kids decide on one or the other. Let's allocate slots so that this isn't the case.

Dublin used to do this, probably still do where each alternate Saturday morning is rotated between hurling and football. More counties need to adopt this approach.

so its now Footballs fault

and here we were being told it was the "Hurling Elite" keeping hurling down

Liam Griffins proposal was impractical and yet you are suggesting weeks or god help us Months being set aside for Hurling when there's not enough teams in those counties to play hurling in the first instance

You grow hurling from the ground up and you grow with kids of u9,introducing the game to kids of 12 and older is nearly a waste of time

if they dont have the basics by 8/9/10

you are at nothing

As I say, such a positive attitude to the young GAA lad/lassies all over Ireland.

Stay in the B team as you're rubbish at picking the ball at 9 years old.

As a matter of fact, don't come back as you're no good.

I hope you're not coaching U9's or U10's.

Great attitude.

And you are an awful eejit to even type all that

Ger Loughnane who would know a thing more about Hurling than you has often stated that you need to have the basics by the time you are 6 or 7

That the difference between the strong hurling counties and the weak

In the Strong the Hurley is an extension of a young lads arm

in the weak its a 2 hours a week training session at best
#25
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 23, 2023, 09:19:43 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 23, 2023, 08:59:16 AM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 23, 2023, 08:41:15 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 22, 2023, 04:58:01 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on May 22, 2023, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 22, 2023, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on May 22, 2023, 03:01:13 PM
How is it a closed shop if Kerry win the Joe Mc and get into the Munster Championship based on results?

Are you saying they should be parachuted over other Joe McDonagh level teams purely because they are based in Munster?

As regards weaker counties developing hurling

Kilkenny for  all the bad press with regards to them and football

they still have 30 plus of their clubs playing football

Where are the equivalent counties that would be strong in football and have 30 of their clubs  playing hurling?

The fact is,there isn't

They are the only county in Munster not playing in it.

Westmeath and Antrim are in the Leinster championship. Are you saying to me that Kerry wouldn't give them a good game?

You do know how the Joe McDonagh competition works ?

Are you saying they should get promoted to the Liam McCarthy over every other county in the Joe Mc  purely on the fact that they are based in Munster ?

Yeah, I am saying that. They're the only team in Munster not playing in Munster. I'd may an exception.

Seems like the big boys want to keep a closed shop - for all the grá of hurling in Munster, it's a clear case of hurling snobbery at its finest.

By the way, if you're so excerised over the the Joe Mc Donagh, are you saying the winners and runners up should qualify instead of the 4th placed teams in Leinster and Munster?

such absolute drivel

Firstly you didn't know that if Kerry won the Joe Mc Donagh, they would be in the Munster Championship

Then you wanted Kerry taken out of the Joe McDonagh and put in Munster regardless even thought they aren't good enough to win it at the minute and over the heads of all the other teams competing in the Joe McDonagh

Now its a grand conspiracy by the Hurling Elite to keep hurling down

Liam Griffin had a motion before congress that every Gaa club would have a hurling team up to u9/11

Everyone of your downtrodden northern counties voted against it

how about you start there with your "closed shop" bull shit

You are probably fully aware that barring Antrim all the other northern counties are footballing dominated and the county boards reflect that in their decision making.

Liams motion was well intended but impractical and what I'd prefer that Croke park insist that there's certain days of the week/month set aside for hurling only.

Go games blitzes be organised within the county and kids who want to hurl but are from a football only play for amalgamations organised by the counties GDO's.

Kids will play anything if given the chance, but far too many CB's and clubs make kids decide on one or the other. Let's allocate slots so that this isn't the case.

Dublin used to do this, probably still do where each alternate Saturday morning is rotated between hurling and football. More counties need to adopt this approach.

so its now Footballs fault

and here we were being told it was the "Hurling Elite" keeping hurling down

Liam Griffins proposal was impractical and yet you are suggesting weeks or god help us Months being set aside for Hurling when there's not enough teams in those counties to play hurling in the first instance

You grow hurling from the ground up and you grow with kids of u9,introducing the game to kids of 12 and older is nearly a waste of time

if they dont have the basics by 8/9/10

you are at nothing
#26
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 23, 2023, 08:41:15 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 22, 2023, 04:58:01 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on May 22, 2023, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 22, 2023, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on May 22, 2023, 03:01:13 PM
How is it a closed shop if Kerry win the Joe Mc and get into the Munster Championship based on results?

Are you saying they should be parachuted over other Joe McDonagh level teams purely because they are based in Munster?

As regards weaker counties developing hurling

Kilkenny for  all the bad press with regards to them and football

they still have 30 plus of their clubs playing football

Where are the equivalent counties that would be strong in football and have 30 of their clubs  playing hurling?

The fact is,there isn't

They are the only county in Munster not playing in it.

Westmeath and Antrim are in the Leinster championship. Are you saying to me that Kerry wouldn't give them a good game?

You do know how the Joe McDonagh competition works ?

Are you saying they should get promoted to the Liam McCarthy over every other county in the Joe Mc  purely on the fact that they are based in Munster ?

Yeah, I am saying that. They're the only team in Munster not playing in Munster. I'd may an exception.

Seems like the big boys want to keep a closed shop - for all the grá of hurling in Munster, it's a clear case of hurling snobbery at its finest.

By the way, if you're so excerised over the the Joe Mc Donagh, are you saying the winners and runners up should qualify instead of the 4th placed teams in Leinster and Munster?

such absolute drivel

Firstly you didn't know that if Kerry won the Joe Mc Donagh, they would be in the Munster Championship

Then you wanted Kerry taken out of the Joe McDonagh and put in Munster regardless even thought they aren't good enough to win it at the minute and over the heads of all the other teams competing in the Joe McDonagh

Now its a grand conspiracy by the Hurling Elite to keep hurling down

Liam Griffin had a motion before congress that every Gaa club would have a hurling team up to u9/11

Everyone of your downtrodden northern counties voted against it

how about you start there with your "closed shop" bull shit
#27
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 22, 2023, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 22, 2023, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 22, 2023, 01:12:16 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on May 21, 2023, 07:12:59 PM
Some win for Westmeath. But all the more amazing given how much a deficit they had to come back from.
Is Leo Cullen in charge of the Wexford hurlers?
Fair play to Westmeath, some comeback. All to play for next week, anyone out of Antrim, Westmeath or Wexford could be down. It will make for an exciting days hurling.

Wexford beating Kilkenny would be a bit of a stretch considering the form they're in.

The yellabellies will be hoping Westmeath overturn Antrim as that's their best bet of staying up. The game in Mullingar coupled with a few injuries on the Antrim team might just do it.

If Westmeath were cunning they might let Antrim beat them provided Kilkenny beat Wexford

Better to have the likes of Offaly or Carlow in Leinster next year than Wexford
#28
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 22, 2023, 01:21:27 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on May 22, 2023, 01:08:23 PM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 22, 2023, 12:49:45 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 22, 2023, 12:00:47 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 22, 2023, 11:37:14 AM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 22, 2023, 09:09:12 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 22, 2023, 07:04:25 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/05/22/nicky-english-exceptional-contest-leaves-tipp-still-standing-and-limerick-facing-fight-for-survival/

Limerick aren't the team of the league final but they weren't beaten either and are still there but key players aren't in good form and they're not hitting the 30 points that used to be standard for them. Other teams will smell blood.Limerick aren't the team of the league final but they weren't beaten either and are still there but key players aren't in good form and they're not hitting the 30 points that used to be standard for them. Other teams will smell blood.

Sean Finn a huge loss for them

Cian Lynch a shadow of his former self

Hegarty at war with himself and anyone near him

There's an uncharacteristic hesitancy to their play particularly in the forwards at the minute whether that is fatigue or lack of appetite is hard to tell but they are going to have to pull it of the fire against Cork to survive now.

Tipp are the image of their manager, tough uncompromising with the odd flash of flair

Jason Forde a huge loss but it was great to see the likes of Jake Morris and Mark Kehoe finally taking on leadership roles.

Its amazing what you can do when you have a proper management set up and people that know what they are doing as opposed to the unmitigated disaster of 2022,the County Board took a lot of flak for doing what they did, but it turns out to have been the correct decision.

the Joanne and Donal Og argument

She's promoted beyond her ability and obviously was told to ambush him by her producer with that line of Questioning, It also was neither the time nor place for it

He's a passionate Hurling man who stands up for his sport, most of the time with cogent well thought out arguments

Id have him over the likes of the nodding dog that is Cavanagh on the football side.

He does but every once in a while he picks fights that he doesn't need to.

The comments on the tailteann cup actually took away from the point he was making and was a cheap shot.

Donal Óg has no interest in promoting hurling in lower tier counties.  He couldn't care less so as being called a passionate hurling man...it is what it is...a load of waffle.

As I say, he and Cantwell light the limelight.  Always about them.

2 fantastic games yesterday.  Munster has it all.  Every game is as important as the next.

Would love to see Kerry in Munster round robin also.  If Westmeath and Antrim can be in Leinster, Kerry should be in Munster.

if Kerry win the Joe McDonagh at any point

they will be in the Munster Hurling Championship

Its up to the lower tier counties to get their own houses in order instead of pointing at Donal Og or anyone else.

Duignan and Offaly being a prime example of what you can do,if you get your House in order.

Duignan has done well but Offaly should never have been in the Christy ring to begin with. Somebody seriously took their eye off the ball there with regards to underage development in that county over a long period of time.

They were in the Christy Ring because the results put them there.

they are doing the work now to get them back to where they need to be,in both codes.

A template for so called weaker hurling with much larger populations than Offaly to use
#29
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 22, 2023, 12:49:45 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 22, 2023, 12:00:47 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 22, 2023, 11:37:14 AM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 22, 2023, 09:09:12 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 22, 2023, 07:04:25 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/05/22/nicky-english-exceptional-contest-leaves-tipp-still-standing-and-limerick-facing-fight-for-survival/

Limerick aren't the team of the league final but they weren't beaten either and are still there but key players aren't in good form and they're not hitting the 30 points that used to be standard for them. Other teams will smell blood.Limerick aren't the team of the league final but they weren't beaten either and are still there but key players aren't in good form and they're not hitting the 30 points that used to be standard for them. Other teams will smell blood.

Sean Finn a huge loss for them

Cian Lynch a shadow of his former self

Hegarty at war with himself and anyone near him

There's an uncharacteristic hesitancy to their play particularly in the forwards at the minute whether that is fatigue or lack of appetite is hard to tell but they are going to have to pull it of the fire against Cork to survive now.

Tipp are the image of their manager, tough uncompromising with the odd flash of flair

Jason Forde a huge loss but it was great to see the likes of Jake Morris and Mark Kehoe finally taking on leadership roles.

Its amazing what you can do when you have a proper management set up and people that know what they are doing as opposed to the unmitigated disaster of 2022,the County Board took a lot of flak for doing what they did, but it turns out to have been the correct decision.

the Joanne and Donal Og argument

She's promoted beyond her ability and obviously was told to ambush him by her producer with that line of Questioning, It also was neither the time nor place for it

He's a passionate Hurling man who stands up for his sport, most of the time with cogent well thought out arguments

Id have him over the likes of the nodding dog that is Cavanagh on the football side.

He does but every once in a while he picks fights that he doesn't need to.

The comments on the tailteann cup actually took away from the point he was making and was a cheap shot.

Donal Óg has no interest in promoting hurling in lower tier counties.  He couldn't care less so as being called a passionate hurling man...it is what it is...a load of waffle.

As I say, he and Cantwell light the limelight.  Always about them.

2 fantastic games yesterday.  Munster has it all.  Every game is as important as the next.

Would love to see Kerry in Munster round robin also.  If Westmeath and Antrim can be in Leinster, Kerry should be in Munster.

if Kerry win the Joe McDonagh at any point

they will be in the Munster Hurling Championship

Its up to the lower tier counties to get their own houses in order instead of pointing at Donal Og or anyone else.

Duignan and Offaly being a prime example of what you can do,if you get your House in order.
#30
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
May 22, 2023, 12:43:28 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on May 22, 2023, 11:37:14 AM
Quote from: The Premierview Podcast on May 22, 2023, 09:09:12 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 22, 2023, 07:04:25 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/05/22/nicky-english-exceptional-contest-leaves-tipp-still-standing-and-limerick-facing-fight-for-survival/

Limerick aren't the team of the league final but they weren't beaten either and are still there but key players aren't in good form and they're not hitting the 30 points that used to be standard for them. Other teams will smell blood.Limerick aren't the team of the league final but they weren't beaten either and are still there but key players aren't in good form and they're not hitting the 30 points that used to be standard for them. Other teams will smell blood.

Sean Finn a huge loss for them

Cian Lynch a shadow of his former self

Hegarty at war with himself and anyone near him

There's an uncharacteristic hesitancy to their play particularly in the forwards at the minute whether that is fatigue or lack of appetite is hard to tell but they are going to have to pull it of the fire against Cork to survive now.

Tipp are the image of their manager, tough uncompromising with the odd flash of flair

Jason Forde a huge loss but it was great to see the likes of Jake Morris and Mark Kehoe finally taking on leadership roles.

Its amazing what you can do when you have a proper management set up and people that know what they are doing as opposed to the unmitigated disaster of 2022,the County Board took a lot of flak for doing what they did, but it turns out to have been the correct decision.

the Joanne and Donal Og argument

She's promoted beyond her ability and obviously was told to ambush him by her producer with that line of Questioning, It also was neither the time nor place for it

He's a passionate Hurling man who stands up for his sport, most of the time with cogent well thought out arguments

Id have him over the likes of the nodding dog that is Cavanagh on the football side.

He does but every once in a while he picks fights that he doesn't need to.

The comments on the tailteann cup actually took away from the point he was making and was a cheap shot.


The comments on the Tailteann Cup were idiotic

It let the GAA Hierarchy along with McBennett and Dee Forbes in RTE off the hook as the narrative was about GAA Go v the ordinary Hurling supporter

Instead Donal Og with his comments turned it into a Football v Hurling argument

Granted some on the Football side should have spotted this also and given it the oxygen of publicity but they couldn't help themselves either