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Title: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: 45 metres on September 20, 2010, 04:16:34 PM
The winners did not score from play until after the half hour.
Benny Coulter found out on the big stage.
Corks shooting from play in the first half would embarrass a one legged player.
Far too many miss hit passes from both teams.
A poor Down defence. Only for Brendan McVeigh they would have been slaughtered.

Cork only won it from their subs in the second half scoring more from frees than play. A close game but not very exciting or good. A poor advertisement for football, not that Cork will mind.

Hurling final was far better.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: mrgaa1 on September 20, 2010, 04:19:19 PM
hurling final is always better as its played with an intensity that no other sport can match.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: ziggysego on September 20, 2010, 04:23:13 PM
You're very bitter.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: mannix on September 20, 2010, 04:28:20 PM
cork wont mind, neither would Mayo or dublin if they could claim the big prize.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: Brick Tamlin on September 20, 2010, 04:29:25 PM
yeah but no but yeah but no ....................
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: imtommygunn on September 20, 2010, 04:30:20 PM
Quote from: 45 metres on September 20, 2010, 04:16:34 PM
Benny Coulter found out on the big stage.

Please explain, found out how?

(From a non down man)
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: Maiden1 on September 20, 2010, 04:31:47 PM
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Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: ziggysego on September 20, 2010, 04:37:43 PM
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Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: T Fearon on September 20, 2010, 04:44:09 PM
I enjoyed the game yesterday, and thought that both sides played well at different stages (unlike 2003 when neither side played well at any stage) though it was obvious in the first half that Cork were quivering with fear and nerves, and actually thought at half time there was no way Down were going to lose

The last ten minutes was brilliant also and you couldn't have asked for a more knife edge finish.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: ross4life on September 20, 2010, 04:49:04 PM
So the 2004. 2006 & 2007 were good finals  ??? As Micheal Ó Muircheartaigh said yesterday a good final is one where you keep the viewers listening & one you don't know the winner untill the final kick...
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: deiseach on September 20, 2010, 04:50:58 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on September 20, 2010, 04:31:47 PM
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Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: the colonel on September 20, 2010, 05:06:48 PM
I thought Coulter was good when they got the ball to him. Not enough service. Could have played high ball into him even, but didn't do that. Should never have took off Paul McComiskey
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: BennyHarp on September 20, 2010, 07:32:26 PM
I would doubt if 45 metres was even born in 2003!
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: bcarrier on September 20, 2010, 07:44:09 PM
45m = fearon.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: T Fearon on September 20, 2010, 08:00:31 PM
45m is indeed not me, nor me him.I never have nor never will post under any other name except my own
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: Qwerty28 on September 20, 2010, 08:42:24 PM
2nd half yesterday was well above average, exciting finish and huge intensity throughout the game. Sure 04, 06 and 07 finals were more or less over by half time!
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: seafoid on September 20, 2010, 08:55:01 PM
This ulster bitching and sniping against Down is very shoddy. No wonder the Unionists got away with jerrymandering for so long. 
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: In the Onion Bag on September 20, 2010, 09:50:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 20, 2010, 08:55:01 PM
This ulster bitching and sniping against Down is very shoddy. No wonder the Unionists got away with jerrymandering for so long.

Well said and from a neutral to boot.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: ziggysego on September 20, 2010, 09:55:58 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 20, 2010, 08:55:01 PM
This ulster bitching and sniping against Down is very shoddy. No wonder the Unionists got away with jerrymandering for so long.

Two people!
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: T Fearon on September 20, 2010, 10:02:05 PM
Seafoid, surely gerrymandering has the aim of creating a permanent in built majority, therefore if nationalism is totally united they still couldn't win an election?

We've had a lot of problematic gerries up here, mandering, Fitt, Adams, Mc Elhinney, Anderson...
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: sammymaguire on September 20, 2010, 10:27:51 PM
Worst all Ireland winners since 1990!!! Cork langers would sicken ya

Is Joe Brolly on here much, his interview on drivetime sport was a re-hash of the stuff on here today especially the analysis of the match and the barrier in front of the hill  ;)
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: Bogball XV on September 20, 2010, 10:53:26 PM
Quote from: mrgaa1 on September 20, 2010, 04:19:19 PM
hurling final is always better as its played with an intensity that no other sport can match.
i'm hoping your taking the piss, we've had some awful hurling finals over the last decade.

Some terrible football finals two in fairness.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on September 20, 2010, 11:12:32 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 20, 2010, 05:06:48 PM
Should never have took off Paul McComiskey

Disagree.

Made a poor decision not to pass to a man inside for a goal in the semi. We were lucky to get away with it.

Yesterday made an even worse decision not to pass to a man inside for a goal. We didn't get away with it.


Its not often you get a chance to learn from your mistakes. He did get that chance, he didn't learn.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: tyroneboi on September 20, 2010, 11:26:46 PM
Watch it again and you will see that pass wasn't on in the first half into Coulter. He was Downs most dangerous inside forward and to take a man off when he scored 3 from play and was destroying his man was strange to say the least.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: INDIANA on September 20, 2010, 11:29:30 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on September 20, 2010, 11:12:32 PM
Quote from: the colonel on September 20, 2010, 05:06:48 PM
Should never have took off Paul McComiskey

Disagree.

Made a poor decision not to pass to a man inside for a goal in the semi. We were lucky to get away with it.

Yesterday made an even worse decision not to pass to a man inside for a goal. We didn't get away with it.


Its not often you get a chance to learn from your mistakes. He did get that chance, he didn't learn.

cant agree. was roasting them. You never take off a guy who is playing well unless he is injured. Never.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: moysider on September 20, 2010, 11:46:53 PM
I ve been at most football finals last 20 years. I wouldn't diss yesterdays game. But it was well off  the Kerry/Tyrone finals and while the Cork players had a great need I was surrounded by Cork and Down supporters who look like they could take it or leave it. Nobody was going to be too upset if their side lost. There was no great passion from the crowd.
The occasion itself is becoming a long dragged out affair. The gap between minor and senior matches is ridiculous. Just so the TV audience have to listen to Pat and Brolly talk shite. Not much fun if you re actually at the game and being subjected to continuous noise - very loud over the PA. Most people want to see football not listen to drum beating, and wild riverdanceesque stuff. Not to mention U2  and stuff. That shite certainly didn't help my vertigo high up in the Cusack which really kicked in at ht in the Senior. It s utter muck.
Coulter was excellent. If he got on the ball a few more plays Down probably would have won. Down got a lot right but a few things wrong. Poland and McCumiskey were having very fine matches. King picked up a knock but those lads were good to go on. Unfortunately John Clarke contributed little and just couldn't make or time a run. He left no space around Coulter who would have run riot if he was left isolated inside. They should have played McC and Coulter inside because McC can show for ball into the corners, peeling away as either a ruse or a genuine target. Down management will kick themselves over this and think that if they played Murtagh around the half forward line instead of selecting Clarke they may have succeeded. Cork layed big attention to Marty Clarke and there was no sweeper around the 2 inside. Somebody with a bit about him inside with Coulter would have created chances big time and Cork could have had a mountain to climb at half time. I believe they could not have handled much more than they did.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: Barney on September 21, 2010, 08:22:01 AM
QuoteNobody was going to be too upset if their side lost. There was no great passion from the crowd.

I think the GAA is going that way.

League attendances - which are generally reflective of the hardcore supporter - are way down it seems to me and for many who go along to the big games during the Summer it is a day out, entertainment. If you win, great but its forgotten the next day. If you lose, so what, give out about the manager and go and get drunk.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: Applesisapples on September 21, 2010, 08:42:26 AM
03 was not a poor final, just a poor result!! :D I would agree with those posters who mentioned the lack of passion, I was enthralled with the hurling final and the passion was evident,even watching it on TV. There was no passion on Sunday, a good Cork team under performed and seemed to have stage fright. A Down team over reliant on Coulter and Clarke were found out as a whole. In addition James McCartan who is an astute manager was caught out tactically. The minor match was a superior game.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: haranguerer on September 21, 2010, 08:43:40 AM
45m isn't far wrong. Not dissing either side, sometimes games just arent great, but it wasn't a great spectacle. Neither side seemed to ever really get going. I was rooting for Down too, but even while leading well, looked very vulnerable when cork got the ball up.

Coulter was not good at all, by his own standards. I can only assume anyone who says he was hasn't seen that much of him play. To say he ws found out is a bit much though.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: bcarrier on September 21, 2010, 09:27:00 AM
Lads I dont know how you could say there was no passion in the crowd ....people show it in different ways though and there was no ugly banter between the crowd around me ( there usually is some soccer stray getting on everyones nerves) . To my mind it was unbelievably tense and the delight of the cork supporters around me was there for all to see. Mind you there was a point in the first half where the langers were ready to turn on their own ...just about the time Miskella miscued.
Title: Re: Worst All Ireland football final since 2003
Post by: Applesisapples on September 21, 2010, 09:36:56 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on September 21, 2010, 08:43:40 AM
45m isn't far wrong. Not dissing either side, sometimes games just arent great, but it wasn't a great spectacle. Neither side seemed to ever really get going. I was rooting for Down too, but even while leading well, looked very vulnerable when cork got the ball up.

Coulter was not good at all, by his own standards. I can only assume anyone who says he was hasn't seen that much of him play. To say he ws found out is a bit much though.
Coulter wasn't found out, he was let down by some of his team mates.