The IRISH RUGBY thread

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CorkMan

Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 09, 2013, 06:56:26 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on March 09, 2013, 06:51:07 PM
Some baffling decisions in that game
By ref, players or management? Poor second half.

Ref. Thought the decision at the scrum that led to the French try was pretty bad. Kidney's decision to take off Murray was appalling. It wasn't a day for someone like Reddan and Murray was running the show.

johnneycool

Quote from: CorkMan on March 09, 2013, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 09, 2013, 06:56:26 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on March 09, 2013, 06:51:07 PM
Some baffling decisions in that game
By ref, players or management? Poor second half.

Ref. Thought the decision at the scrum that led to the French try was pretty bad. Kidney's decision to take off Murray was appalling. It wasn't a day for someone like Reddan and Murray was running the show.

Murray got MOTM on BBC and that was only after playing 60 odd minutes, not sure if its a pre determined move irrespective how the games going, but folly in my mind.


michaelg

Quote from: johnneycool on March 09, 2013, 07:43:07 PM
Quote from: CorkMan on March 09, 2013, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 09, 2013, 06:56:26 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on March 09, 2013, 06:51:07 PM
Some baffling decisions in that game
By ref, players or management? Poor second half.

Ref. Thought the decision at the scrum that led to the French try was pretty bad. Kidney's decision to take off Murray was appalling. It wasn't a day for someone like Reddan and Murray was running the show.

Murray got MOTM on BBC and that was only after playing 60 odd minutes, not sure if its a pre determined move irrespective how the games going, but folly in my mind.
Although he had a decent game when he was on today (Half-decent box kicks and all that), but he is so frustrating in his delay in getting the ball out - He seems to slow up play all the time.

CorkMan

Quote from: michaelg on March 09, 2013, 08:00:47 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 09, 2013, 07:43:07 PM
Quote from: CorkMan on March 09, 2013, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 09, 2013, 06:56:26 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on March 09, 2013, 06:51:07 PM
Some baffling decisions in that game
By ref, players or management? Poor second half.

Ref. Thought the decision at the scrum that led to the French try was pretty bad. Kidney's decision to take off Murray was appalling. It wasn't a day for someone like Reddan and Murray was running the show.

Murray got MOTM on BBC and that was only after playing 60 odd minutes, not sure if its a pre determined move irrespective how the games going, but folly in my mind.
Although he had a decent game when he was on today (Half-decent box kicks and all that), but he is so frustrating in his delay in getting the ball out - He seems to slow up play all the time.

He was better than decent. It was him that took the pressure off Jackson by taking over the playmaking duty.

Going back to the original point on bad decisions, Kearneys decision to go for a drop goal was absoloute bollix. They had the momentum at that stage and another try would have killed France off altogether.

Main Street

The decision to go for the drop goal was made before the ball came back out into play.
Was it not Jackson who was going to do the drop goal goal attempt?  He wasn't in a good enough position, then he enacted plan B and sent it back to Kearney.

Obviously it was a crap decision because it didn't work ;D  - 3 points then, would have wrapped up the game.

trileacman

Quote from: Main Street on March 10, 2013, 09:28:40 AM
The decision to go for the drop goal was made before the ball came back out into play.
Was it not Jackson who was going to do the drop goal goal attempt?  He wasn't in a good enough position, then he enacted plan B and sent it back to Kearney.

Obviously it was a crap decision because it didn't work ;D  - 3 points then, would have wrapped up the game.

Yeah Jackson took it on, shit himself and chucked it out to Kearney. When it's obvious that the dg isn't on, you just can't chuck it out to the full-back on the half-way and tell him to put it over. Waste of good possesion=Jackson's fault.
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stephenite

Reply just started on ESPN, should I bother me hole watching it?

trileacman

Quote from: stephenite on March 10, 2013, 10:08:18 AM
Reply just started on ESPN, should I bother me hole watching it?
Nah, shite match.
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It'll be tough next week against Italy.  We can hope that the game took it out of them today.
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that says what he means and
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CorkMan

Quote from: trileacman on March 10, 2013, 10:04:38 AM
Quote from: Main Street on March 10, 2013, 09:28:40 AM
The decision to go for the drop goal was made before the ball came back out into play.
Was it not Jackson who was going to do the drop goal goal attempt?  He wasn't in a good enough position, then he enacted plan B and sent it back to Kearney.

Obviously it was a crap decision because it didn't work ;D  - 3 points then, would have wrapped up the game.

Yeah Jackson took it on, shit himself and chucked it out to Kearney. When it's obvious that the dg isn't on, you just can't chuck it out to the full-back on the half-way and tell him to put it over. Waste of good possesion=Jackson's fault.

He shouldn't have even taken it on. The try was on at that stage and that would have buried the French, there would have been no coming back from that.

muppet

Still scratching my head at the decision to take of Murray.

Kidney hasn't lost the dressing room, as the players are far too professional for that, but I do think he has lost his mind.
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seafoid

Ireland fierce unlucky with the injuries as well this 6 nations.
If Sexton hadn't been injured they could have been contenders.
England could win a fairly jammy title.     

johnneycool

Quote from: seafoid on March 11, 2013, 08:08:26 AM
Ireland fierce unlucky with the injuries as well this 6 nations.
If Sexton hadn't been injured they could have been contenders.
England could win a fairly jammy title.   

Bowe, Zebo, O'Connell, Ferris, D'Arcy, Sexton, either missing the whole 6N's, most of it in Zebo's case and a few games in a few other cases, Kidney didn't have his sorrows to seek this time around, but at least he got to see some young blood for the next coach coming in!!

Reddan's leg broken, looked rough on the replay, hope he recovers fully!

LeoMc

Quote from: johnneycool on March 11, 2013, 09:05:30 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 11, 2013, 08:08:26 AM
Ireland fierce unlucky with the injuries as well this 6 nations.
If Sexton hadn't been injured they could have been contenders.
England could win a fairly jammy title.   

Bowe, Zebo, O'Connell, Ferris, D'Arcy, Sexton, either missing the whole 6N's, most of it in Zebo's case and a few games in a few other cases, Kidney didn't have his sorrows to seek this time around, but at least he got to see some young blood for the next coach coming in!!

Reddan's leg broken, looked rough on the replay, hope he recovers fully!

Who are our back-up scrum half options for the Italy game. I have seen Paul Marshall suggested but he is not getting enough game time with Ulster.

Hound

Quote from: michaelg on March 09, 2013, 08:00:47 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on March 09, 2013, 07:43:07 PM
Quote from: CorkMan on March 09, 2013, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 09, 2013, 06:56:26 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on March 09, 2013, 06:51:07 PM
Some baffling decisions in that game
By ref, players or management? Poor second half.

Ref. Thought the decision at the scrum that led to the French try was pretty bad. Kidney's decision to take off Murray was appalling. It wasn't a day for someone like Reddan and Murray was running the show.

Murray got MOTM on BBC and that was only after playing 60 odd minutes, not sure if its a pre determined move irrespective how the games going, but folly in my mind.
Although he had a decent game when he was on today (Half-decent box kicks and all that), but he is so frustrating in his delay in getting the ball out - He seems to slow up play all the time.
I agree, I think Murray's play was vastly over-stated. He played well, one of his best Ireland games, but he still made plenty of errors and his weaknesses remain his weaknesses.

BTW, it was Ralph Keyes who made the decision to give Murray the RBS man of the match award. BBC have to go along with it, they can't give an alternative man of the match.

Personally I thought the best 3 players on the pitch were O'Mahoney, Heaslip and Picamoles. 

Quote from: trileacman on March 10, 2013, 10:04:38 AM
Yeah Jackson took it on, shit himself and chucked it out to Kearney. When it's obvious that the dg isn't on, you just can't chuck it out to the full-back on the half-way and tell him to put it over. Waste of good possesion=Jackson's fault.
Jackson made the correct decision not to attempt a DG as he would have been blocked down. And if he'd let himself be tackled it would have been a turnover as he would have been swallowed up with no support. It was absolutely the correct decision to play it back to Kearney. The decision by Kearney to try a DG from that distance off his weak foot was appaling though. He should have just kicked and chased or tried to find touch. Pity, as Kearney had been playing well up to that point.