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[Rafferty is a phenomenal keeper but I can't recall him absolutely booting it to the opposition 45.]

Some excellent points here in the kickout discussion. The big winners I think are Tyrone. Malachy and Co will be flat out working out an A, B and C approach to avoid thst 14 point drubbing Armagh took through total domination of the kick out.

Rafferty is a phenomenal keeper but I can't recall him absolutely booting it to the opposition 45. Maybe he doesn't have it in his locker but we can see how effective it is. Two keepers who absolutely do have this is Morgan and Patton. We got at least 2 if not 3 scores of Dublin in the second half with deep kickout flicked on inside the Dublin 45.

If Kerry win the break then the long kick pass directly into the Kerry FF line isn't really on. Furthermore, it might encourage the press to back off a lot more to allow a safer shorter option.

Fascinating stuff and at the end of the day it might be a case of pure luck rather than any design as JoG2 mentions above.

Think he tried one maybe not just as far as their 45 but landed one on Rian who punched it on but Kerry got the break. Should have tried a couple more as the threat of Conaty etc getting on the end of a flick would have forced Kerry back

Bit better than the one about Harte, who keft in the same circumstances.

Did he not leave last minute and had them convinced he was for staying? Brennans obviously been honest.

Kerry went hard at the emotional angle against Armagh. It was genuine and authentic. Very hard to replicate that level of emotional intensity the next day out.

If we get a fast start and the Kerry shot accuracy is around 50-60% then we have a chance.

Were huge underdogs but that's the way we like it.

I give Tyrone every chance. Kerry had as close to perfect a second half as I've ever seen. Very unlikely they'll repeat that.

We got it tactically wrong on kickouts, defensively and were just second to every break ball which I've never known us to be as poor at. Tyrone will learn from that I'm sure and have a plan for O'Shea and Paudie Clifford, David you just need to hope for the best and try to limit the supply. 

Brennan has left Louth.

It's too early to talk about All-Stars. Winners and runners up usually get 11. Louth will get one. That leaves 3. 3 from Armagh Monaghan or Galway is deluded

Would Odhran Murdock be in with a shout?

No chance. You need to get to a QF to be in with any chance. The only non semi finalists in recent years were Enda Smith and Craig Lennon.

did Niall Morgan not get an all star last year? Tyrone def werent semi finalists. Were they even quarter finalists?

You are right they were put out at PQF stage. He's the one anomaly then.

The past two years there's been a player who went out in the PQF awarded an all star (Morgan in 2024 and Enda Smith in 2023). Its no guarantee that he'll get one but if they give one to a player who lost at that stage, he's the best placed to get one imo.

Michael Langan & Joe O'Connor are already ahead of him and that's even before a ball has been kicked in the semi finals.
3/6 midfield nominations will come from the All Ireland final. 2 from the semi finalist probably. Leaves one up for grabs. He has a chance of getting but it's tight.

He could get nominated in the half forward line. 

Kerry have always been sore. When they win it's shake hands like men and leave what happened on the field on the field. But when they lose they'll fairly cry foul.

No mention of the knee drop on Burns's head that he had to go off for. Replays wouldn't show it for some reason. Certainly done them no harm on the Armagh kickouts.

Didn't see that in real time and haven't seen a replay, thought he had hit his head off the ground to be honest.

Was McCambridge taken out of it off the ball early in the first half? He was down for a bit and got up and was complaining to the umpires.

No, Down didn't go deep enough in the competition to get an all star, he could possibly get a nomination.
Without a doubt he is our best prospect since since Benny Coulter, totally different type of player, but both have that x factor where there is a buzz in the crowd when they get possession. He's had a fantastic year.

Yeah fantastic player but there will probably be others ahead of him that went further. Will get a nomination surely, Havern and Magill possibly as well?

Armaghs biggest problem going into 2026 will be who is staying, and can injuries get cleared up.

All talk of who kerry missed yday, but players who didnt see grass yday for armagh were

Campbell
Oisin ONeill
McKay
Ciaran Mackin
Conor ONeill

Big losses all of those but sure you play the hand your dealt and 2 of those didn't feature last year after the Westmeath game. Hopefully all clears up for next year and we can unearth another couple of young lads.

Forker, Grugan, Murnin, Paddy Burns, Soupy all probably at the stage where they need to think hard about whether they'll commit again.

Hope the manner of yesterday lights a fire under the rest of the team and they come back next year with a point to prove.

Galway, Armagh & Dublin all looked lifeless. Group of death took its toil, will be glad to see the back of the group stage. You'd wonder if McGeeney regrets putting that much effort into the Galway game, as for Galway the manners of the games didn't help and eventually caught up with them.

I was happy enough at half time as thought it looked like a deliberate tactic in the first half to slow the game down and conserve energy but apart from a crazy 4 minutes in the 2nd half Galway never looked comfortable. Meath fully deserving winners.

Imagine we'll hear in the next few weeks if Joyce will stay on, I hope he does.

Not sure a game 2 weeks ago should really have had any effect on freshness etc for yesterday, easy to look unfit when you're chasing shadows. Hats off to Kerry, looked the hungrier team. Hope we can keep Donaghy about, but if not then the very best to him for the future. 

2 pages and we don't even know what day the game is on.
This one could run and run.

As long as theres no covid outbreaks this time lol.

Well yesterday was a big disappointment. Sometimes you have to hold your hands up and say you were beaten by a much better team in the day. It was a pleasure to watch Sean O'Shea yesterday. Well done Kerry

That would be my feeling too. As Peter Canavan said last night no team would have been able to live with Kerry during that 15 minute spell yesterday. I wouldn't want to have been in Ethan's boots during that period. He made his mistakes of course but I would put it down to a complete system meltdown rather than putting it completely at his door.  Momentum always was an important commodity in football but it's off the scales now.  If you lose it then it is very hard to get back.
A Kerry team with a chip on its' shoulder is a dangerous beast especially with that wasp Jack O'Connor in charge.  You can just hear him using all the negative comments in the dressing room.
I'd have concerns over what some of our older players might do now.  Hopefully they take their time and arrive at what's best for them.

It's true that no team would have been able to live with Kerry if they gift them possession 15 times in a row but I don't think most teams would do that. He'd have been better lumping a few up the middle but for whatever reason he decided now to. It happens all the time now when teams get on top and hit 7 or 8 points in a row, but 14 is unheard of in what was a tight game before that.

It begs the question: did Armagh have the right keeper in goal?  Rafferty is great, pure excitement.  However when the FRC altered its own rule change back in February, the advantage of the attacking keeper was lost.

Not really given he was super all year, Blaine did get a game or 2 in the league and was poor.

The kick out rule was brought in to suit Kerry
Another lad wants the FRC to change the kick out rule .

Kickout rule should have suit us yesterday given Kerry were missing their main midfielder but that didn't go to script.

Have a feeling those Tyrone hoors will edge this one. Not sure Kerry will put in another performance like yesterday.

Well yesterday was a big disappointment. Sometimes you have to hold your hands up and say you were beaten by a much better team in the day. It was a pleasure to watch Sean O'Shea yesterday. Well done Kerry

100%. He was excellent, Barry did reasonably well on Clifford but he still had 0-7, superb player. 

Roarty way out in front for YPOTY you'd imagine.

Thompson in with a shout?