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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #5010 on: September 19, 2017, 07:30:14 PM »
Benny, I think it could take 3 years to make Tyrone competitive against the top teams never mind win an all Ireland. No matter who is manager. I'm not expecting any all Irelands, god knows we in Tyrone know how hard they are to win. I'd just like to be able to go to Tyrone games and watch our lads play football the way it should be played and see where it takes us.

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« Reply #5011 on: September 19, 2017, 09:13:40 PM »
southtyronegael - Before I start, I am no longer a fan of Mickey Harte. I used to be, His legacy is untouchable, what he done for Tyrone will never be forgotten. I believe its time he went before he ruins what people remember what he brought to Tyrone

But

For a long time I agreed with what you said, we were on a similar wave, but nowadays your just plain annoying. Hartes going no were, I dont like it, but I have to accept it. Either shut up with your constant hatred or leave the thread. You offer nothing these days and I for one am sick hearing the same cr@p day in day out from you

And he s not even from Tyrone. He is a Fermanagh man.
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« Reply #5012 on: September 19, 2017, 09:23:49 PM »
Debate on Harte is irrelevant, he's here for next year anyway so what needs to be built on?

I do think a change in approach is needed, I think the we need to be able to trust our backs a bit more to do marking jobs, I think we need more size and aggression in the team and will need to leave more players up the field at all times.

I thought defensively we were hugely exposed against Dublin - McNamee, McCrory and McCarron in particular. McCarron looks like his legs are gone, he's probably beefed up a bit too much in the past couple of years, I think he could still have a role to play marking bigger and more static men but it should be horses for courses. McNamee is a guy who should be under pressure, he was superb in 2015 and very unlucky I felt to miss out on an all star, I thought he had a few iffy moments this year. McCrory fits into the system well but if we are to move away from it then I don't think he offers an awful lot as a destroyer or as a footballer, his whole game is really based on support play and he has his limitations.

The problem is who are the better options?

I know HP McGeary has been on the panel for a while and has never really been given a shot, even this year Cassidy overtook him as the bench option for corner back. From the little I've seen of him I don't think he's up to it but who knows.

Michael McKernan will almost certainly be on the panel next year but whether he's physically up to it, I'm not sure.

Cassidy is a player I really like, he looks like he has filled out in the past few years, he has bags of pace and aggression and is a quality footballer too. I'd like to see him get an extended run in the league next year at corner back.

Rory Brennan is a very sticky marker and we're stacked as it is in the half back line so I would have no real probelms with him being tried at corner back for a while.

I've seen Gary Wallace's name been mentioned but I think he's really just a solid club player and won't be any upgrade on what's there currently. Munroe would be a good option but he's put himself out of the picture as would Mullan but he's also dropped himself. Could Loughran do a job in the full back line?

Has Conor Clarke made any return to form this year? He certainly has the physicality to give us something extra, even moreso now Justy is gone but his mobility and injury problems were halting him.

Apart from that I can't really think of any options, Ruairi Kelly of Trillick might be worth a look. I think this is the area that we need the most new fresh ideas in.

Not really too many other players further forward that will offer us much more than we have at the minute, McAliskey will be a big boost for us in the forward line. Possibly Ruairi Sludden could be worth a look and give McCullagh and McHugh more of an opportunity but I think or forward line is what it is. McNulty is a player who doesn't deliver enough from play for me and he's quite static.

I'd like to see something like:

---------------------Morgan

Cassidy------------McCarron--------------Brennan

---------------------Cavanagh

McCann------------Hampsey--------------Meyler

--------------McClure------R Donnelly

Harte----------------Sludden--------------M Donnelly

------------Bradley----------------McAliskey

Cavanagh playing his normal role of midfield cum sweeper and Mattie given a free role to drop back and roam. Try and keep Harte and Sludden operating between the middle area at all times and leave the two inside lads as closes to goal as we can for longer stages.

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« Reply #5013 on: September 19, 2017, 09:40:41 PM »
I think we need to talk to Munro again. Coney amongst others.

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« Reply #5014 on: September 19, 2017, 10:12:13 PM »
Gary Wallace are you on drugs wouldnt make the Tyrone masters team.Conor Clarke hardly making the Omagh team.

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« Reply #5015 on: September 19, 2017, 11:52:59 PM »
Conor Clarke was lining out for Omagh reserves, unfortunately I can't see him in a Tyrone jersey again.

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« Reply #5016 on: Today at 07:46:10 AM »
Gary Wallace are you on drugs wouldnt make the Tyrone masters team.Conor Clarke hardly making the Omagh team.

My apologies, I meant Danny Gorman - who I don't think is county standard either.
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« Reply #5017 on: Today at 08:26:21 AM »
Would Frank Burns not be worth giving an extended run in the team in the Half Forward Line?

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« Reply #5018 on: Today at 08:58:46 AM »
Would Frank Burns not be worth giving an extended run in the team in the Half Forward Line?

I'd see him more as a half back. Felt he was very effective as a sweeper as a minor. Hope he gets more opportunities next year.

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« Reply #5019 on: Today at 09:32:40 AM »
Il Bomber Destro - You slate Mc Carron -

"I thought defensively we were hugely exposed against Dublin - McNamee, McCrory and McCarron in particular. McCarron looks like his legs are gone"

An then you name him in your team!!!!!!!! Strange

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« Reply #5020 on: Today at 09:59:17 AM »
Club boi, if I'm annoying you its because I'm annoyed. And you shouldn't just'accept' things. Every man on here is entitled to have his say wether we agree with it or not.

This guy is a bore, I can't believe we are going to have to listen to 3 years of this from a Fermanagh man! Its noticeable that he was awful quiet when tyrone were going well.

I think munroe would come back, don't think they left on really bad terms, probably a bit stupid on his part as he was on the brink of break through

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« Reply #5021 on: Today at 11:30:34 AM »
Club boi, if I'm annoying you its because I'm annoyed. And you shouldn't just'accept' things. Every man on here is entitled to have his say wether we agree with it or not.

This guy is a bore, I can't believe we are going to have to listen to 3 years of this from a Fermanagh man! Its noticeable that he was awful quiet when tyrone were going well.

I think munroe would come back, don't think they left on really bad terms, probably a bit stupid on his part as he was on the brink of break through

Munroe rumored to be on his way to Oz next season

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« Reply #5022 on: Today at 11:40:42 AM »
Anybody See Niall Morgan playing outfield on Saturday gave young Munroe his fill of it i would say.. Have seen nobody in any championship game so far that i would consider county football material.... hopefully somebody jumps out in the next few games.... possibly young ONeill from Ardboe or McLaughlin(ithink thats his name) from Omagh but they are both half backs...

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« Reply #5023 on: Today at 11:50:22 AM »
Anybody See Niall Morgan playing outfield on Saturday gave young Munroe his fill of it i would say.. Have seen nobody in any championship game so far that i would consider county football material.... hopefully somebody jumps out in the next few games.... possibly young ONeill from Ardboe or McLaughlin(ithink thats his name) from Omagh but they are both half backs...

Conditions haven't been the best in fairness in few games I have saw. Ronan Mc Hugh from Aghyaran most impressive but opposition was questionable.

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« Reply #5024 on: Today at 01:25:08 PM »
I heard Colm Cavanagh is being dropped off the panel due to Sean going on The Sunday Game, apparently this was like a knife through the heart of the fuhrer.