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Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« Reply #4560 on: July 19, 2017, 12:30:12 PM »
Yeah I think the backdoor has certainly benefit Ulster maybe more than other provinces as there are usually a few teams that were always well capable of progressing much further if they had of got out of Ulster.
2003 All Ireland final is a fine example with Tyrone meeting the reigning AI champs in the final.
Also Cork and Kerry met in the 2007 AI final.
Can you imagine how it would have worked during the early 90s with Down, Derry, Donegal and Tyrone all being quite strong.

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« Reply #4561 on: July 19, 2017, 12:51:00 PM »
You are correct Clarshack....back door for hurling started in 1997.
backdoor in football started in 2001. Remember Derry?

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« Reply #4562 on: July 19, 2017, 08:01:04 PM »
was always wondering why mc namee was being pushed forward to do all the irish news interviews and media work. he in the paper today talking about the team saying the rosary before every game and he thinks its great cause he goes go mass every sunday and before games anyway. embarressing stuff and hed be better sayin nothin and keepin that shit inhouse.

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« Reply #4563 on: July 19, 2017, 08:31:22 PM »
was always wondering why mc namee was being pushed forward to do all the irish news interviews and media work. he in the paper today talking about the team saying the rosary before every game and he thinks its great cause he goes go mass every sunday and before games anyway. embarressing stuff and hed be better sayin nothin and keepin that shit inhouse.

He doesn't do all the Tyrone interviews. In the past fortnight alone I've seen interviews with Sean Cavanagh, Tiernan McCann, Niall Sludden, Kieran McGeary, Cathal McCarron and Ronan O'Neill. A few of the Tyrone lads do more interviews than Ronan. McNamee attended a press launch and he was asked about the rosary as a follow up to comments made by Mickey Harte in an Sunday Times interview. Ronan's comments were reasoned and measured in my view. And he didn't say it was 'great', he basically said it does no harm. He was hardly gonna say "I think it's a load of aul crap".

As much as I find the rosaries thing a bit cringeworthy, you don't have a baldy how the media works (i.e. you seem to think Mickey Harte rings up the Irish News looking to be interviewed. Harte rarely talks outside of press events/matches and certain journalists tend to spin one interview into a number of articles in the build-up to a match).
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« Reply #4564 on: July 20, 2017, 01:04:43 AM »
The things about this side is - it's a testament to Harte that they're up there being spoken about as AI contenders. The 03-08 side was almost readymade and Mickey just added the extra polish.

Harte has turned this group into something I could never envisage, even with their underage medals. That's probably why he is what he is and I am what I am.

Even boys like Colm and Tiernan. Colm used to solo balls over his head and into the crowd. Now he's nearing legendary status in a Tyrone jersey with a major tweak in his role.

We have a dearth of real top quality inter-county scoring forwards that Kerry and Dublin have. But if he wins it with the current squad it'll better any AI before this year.
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« Reply #4565 on: July 20, 2017, 10:32:56 AM »
I remember Stevie O'Neill telling me years ago that he thought full back would be Colm's best position. I thought he was crazy.

Yeah Jim McGuinness was more or less saying the same O'Neill in his article that it would be breaking new ground to win Sam without any star players, normally you need both a few star players and great organisation and application. He also talked about teams are so better coached nowadays and thought it interesting what he said how players like McCurry, Ronan O'Neill and maybe Lee Brennan are much more natural selfish score getters who think about how much they can score for themselves whereas Mickey prefers players who are all about the team and maybe that's why he choses Bradley and Mulgrew.


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« Reply #4566 on: July 20, 2017, 02:00:14 PM »
I remember Stevie O'Neill telling me years ago that he thought full back would be Colm's best position. I thought he was crazy.

Yeah Jim McGuinness was more or less saying the same O'Neill in his article that it would be breaking new ground to win Sam without any star players, normally you need both a few star players and great organisation and application. He also talked about teams are so better coached nowadays and thought it interesting what he said how players like McCurry, Ronan O'Neill and maybe Lee Brennan are much more natural selfish score getters who think about how much they can score for themselves whereas Mickey prefers players who are all about the team and maybe that's why he choses Bradley and Mulgrew.

We may not have a star full forward but its wrong to say we don't have star players. The likes of Mattie, Harte, Cavanaghs, Sludden, McCann are top players. If we push forward in numbers come croke park we should be able to put enough scores on the board to trouble most teams.

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« Reply #4567 on: July 20, 2017, 02:20:09 PM »
Yeah Peter Harte, Mattie & Sean are all-stars from the past few years.
Sludden, Mattie, Bradley and surprisingly Hampsey all have 5 points so far this year while McGeary, Tiernan, Conall all have 3 along with McCurry, Mulgrew and Lee B.

I suppose McGuinness meant you usually need an outstanding forward to bag you a good few scores per game whereas should we go on to win Sam this year we will be the first ever team to do that without such a player.

I hope we continue to attack like we have done for most of the games this year and don't retreat back into our shell like last years game v Mayo. It would be sad if it all came to an abrupt end just because of the fear factor. The Dubs down here seem to be very conscious that we could be on a collision course and whilst they are still very confident, they are wary that their team is far from settled with no Cooper and McMahon, MD Macauley and lots of new young lads coming in. They only had 4 starters the last day from the AI starting team in 2011. The new young lads are good but still relatively inexperienced at the top level.

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« Reply #4568 on: July 22, 2017, 09:01:26 PM »
So how good are Tyrone really? Donegal game now put in perspective plus Derry and Down were very poor opposition too.

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« Reply #4569 on: July 22, 2017, 09:10:23 PM »
So how good are Tyrone really? Donegal game now put in perspective plus Derry and Down were very poor opposition too.

Thought the same... beware all the hype after beating three very poor teams

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« Reply #4570 on: July 22, 2017, 10:57:28 PM »
Form lines are always very hard to read in football. I'd say Donegal weren't as good as everyone thought pre Tyrone game. But Tyrone knocked the heart out of them and they've been a shadow of themselves since in the qualifiers. I wouldn't be overly concerned about how they've done. The big thing to learn was that we weren't as bad as those last three league games suggested.

We won't know if we've improved enough to beat a top team until we get a crack at one of them. Other results won't answer that question. A direct form line last year was that Mayo beat us by a point and drew with Dublin in the final so we weren't far away. We've probably improved since.

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« Reply #4571 on: July 23, 2017, 01:32:59 PM »
Form lines are always very hard to read in football. I'd say Donegal weren't as good as everyone thought pre Tyrone game. But Tyrone knocked the heart out of them and they've been a shadow of themselves since in the qualifiers. I wouldn't be overly concerned about how they've done. The big thing to learn was that we weren't as bad as those last three league games suggested.

We won't know if we've improved enough to beat a top team until we get a crack at one of them. Other results won't answer that question. A direct form line last year was that Mayo beat us by a point and drew with Dublin in the final so we weren't far away. We've probably improved since.

And Galway beat Roscommon last year so that would make them better than Dublin

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« Reply #4572 on: July 23, 2017, 03:09:11 PM »
the only way we will know what we have is when we play dublin in the semi final.