Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

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mrdeeds

Quote from: Sportacus on February 16, 2024, 10:04:28 PMMichelle on the Late Late.  When Adams and McGuinness picked her as the heir, they saw the potential. Very impressive and self assured tonight.

I like Michelle but a lot of soundbites and cliches. And usual Sinn Fein thing of sitting on fence on issues.

Low and Hard

Really clear confident public speaker now, fair play! We are getting closer in the north.

burdizzo

Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 16, 2024, 10:04:28 PMMichelle on the Late Late.  When Adams and McGuinness picked her as the heir, they saw the potential. Very impressive and self assured tonight.

I like Michelle but a lot of soundbites and cliches. And usual Sinn Fein thing of sitting on fence on issues.

Thought the same. Dodged a lot of questions. I'd like to see a united Ireland, but one led by Sinn Fein? No thanks.

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 16, 2024, 10:04:28 PMMichelle on the Late Late.  When Adams and McGuinness picked her as the heir, they saw the potential. Very impressive and self assured tonight.

I like Michelle but a lot of soundbites and cliches. And usual Sinn Fein thing of sitting on fence on issues.
If ever a post described itself, it is this.

Could you put a bit more meat on the bones of what you mean?

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: burdizzo on February 16, 2024, 10:17:15 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 16, 2024, 10:04:28 PMMichelle on the Late Late.  When Adams and McGuinness picked her as the heir, they saw the potential. Very impressive and self assured tonight.

I like Michelle but a lot of soundbites and cliches. And usual Sinn Fein thing of sitting on fence on issues.

Thought the same. Dodged a lot of questions. I'd like to see a united Ireland, but one led by Sinn Fein? No thanks.
Would you prefer to see Ireland north and south led by Sinn Fein as separate entities?
That's odd thinking.

mrdeeds

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 16, 2024, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 16, 2024, 10:04:28 PMMichelle on the Late Late.  When Adams and McGuinness picked her as the heir, they saw the potential. Very impressive and self assured tonight.

I like Michelle but a lot of soundbites and cliches. And usual Sinn Fein thing of sitting on fence on issues.
If ever a post described itself, it is this.

Could you put a bit more meat on the bones of what you mean?

The housing for immigrants issue for one. Went way of on a tangent. Then said we'll hear what people say and decide. They're meant to put up a position and face the electorate based on that.

trueblue1234

Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 16, 2024, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 16, 2024, 10:04:28 PMMichelle on the Late Late.  When Adams and McGuinness picked her as the heir, they saw the potential. Very impressive and self assured tonight.

I like Michelle but a lot of soundbites and cliches. And usual Sinn Fein thing of sitting on fence on issues.
If ever a post described itself, it is this.

Could you put a bit more meat on the bones of what you mean?

The housing for immigrants issue for one. Went way of on a tangent. Then said we'll hear what people say and decide. They're meant to put up a position and face the electorate based on that.
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 16, 2024, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 16, 2024, 10:04:28 PMMichelle on the Late Late.  When Adams and McGuinness picked her as the heir, they saw the potential. Very impressive and self assured tonight.

I like Michelle but a lot of soundbites and cliches. And usual Sinn Fein thing of sitting on fence on issues.
If ever a post described itself, it is this.

Could you put a bit more meat on the bones of what you mean?

The housing for immigrants issue for one. Went way of on a tangent. Then said we'll hear what people say and decide. They're meant to put up a position and face the electorate based on that.

What party doesn't take on board public opinion to some extent?
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Tubberman

Quote from: trueblue1234 on February 16, 2024, 10:26:48 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 16, 2024, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 16, 2024, 10:04:28 PMMichelle on the Late Late.  When Adams and McGuinness picked her as the heir, they saw the potential. Very impressive and self assured tonight.

I like Michelle but a lot of soundbites and cliches. And usual Sinn Fein thing of sitting on fence on issues.
If ever a post described itself, it is this.

Could you put a bit more meat on the bones of what you mean?

The housing for immigrants issue for one. Went way of on a tangent. Then said we'll hear what people say and decide. They're meant to put up a position and face the electorate based on that.
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 16, 2024, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 16, 2024, 10:04:28 PMMichelle on the Late Late.  When Adams and McGuinness picked her as the heir, they saw the potential. Very impressive and self assured tonight.

I like Michelle but a lot of soundbites and cliches. And usual Sinn Fein thing of sitting on fence on issues.
If ever a post described itself, it is this.

Could you put a bit more meat on the bones of what you mean?

The housing for immigrants issue for one. Went way of on a tangent. Then said we'll hear what people say and decide. They're meant to put up a position and face the electorate based on that.

What party doesn't take on board public opinion to some extent?

Surely to God the party has a position on the matter though? And surely Michelle O'Neill knows what that position is?
Kielty let her off very easily on that.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 16, 2024, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 16, 2024, 10:04:28 PMMichelle on the Late Late.  When Adams and McGuinness picked her as the heir, they saw the potential. Very impressive and self assured tonight.

I like Michelle but a lot of soundbites and cliches. And usual Sinn Fein thing of sitting on fence on issues.
If ever a post described itself, it is this.

Could you put a bit more meat on the bones of what you mean?

The housing for immigrants issue for one. Went way of on a tangent. Then said we'll hear what people say and decide. They're meant to put up a position and face the electorate based on that.
I'm not sure that's particularly true. Positions on anything aren't written in stone. Where they came from in northern politics to where they are today is testament to that.
Also, I'm sure she is aware that she can't anchor her party to anything on a Friday night light entertainment show nor does she want to castigate those in the electorate who are against her party on the refugee issue at present.
What did you expect her to say?

mrdeeds

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 16, 2024, 10:30:51 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 16, 2024, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 16, 2024, 10:04:28 PMMichelle on the Late Late.  When Adams and McGuinness picked her as the heir, they saw the potential. Very impressive and self assured tonight.

I like Michelle but a lot of soundbites and cliches. And usual Sinn Fein thing of sitting on fence on issues.
If ever a post described itself, it is this.

Could you put a bit more meat on the bones of what you mean?

The housing for immigrants issue for one. Went way of on a tangent. Then said we'll hear what people say and decide. They're meant to put up a position and face the electorate based on that.
I'm not sure that's particularly true. Positions on anything aren't written in stone. Where they came from in northern politics to where they are today is testament to that.
Also, I'm sure she is aware that she can't anchor her party to anything on a Friday night light entertainment show nor does she want to castigate those in the electorate who are against her party on the refugee issue at present.
What did you expect her to say?

Isn't part of the reason they're slipping in polls is that they don't take a position on big issues. Same during covid, they kept saying we'll wait till there's more evidence. And just kicked can down road.

ONeill

Impressive from Michelle. Cut the right tone from the start.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:32:49 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 16, 2024, 10:30:51 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on February 16, 2024, 10:18:54 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2024, 10:11:00 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 16, 2024, 10:04:28 PMMichelle on the Late Late.  When Adams and McGuinness picked her as the heir, they saw the potential. Very impressive and self assured tonight.

I like Michelle but a lot of soundbites and cliches. And usual Sinn Fein thing of sitting on fence on issues.
If ever a post described itself, it is this.

Could you put a bit more meat on the bones of what you mean?

The housing for immigrants issue for one. Went way of on a tangent. Then said we'll hear what people say and decide. They're meant to put up a position and face the electorate based on that.
I'm not sure that's particularly true. Positions on anything aren't written in stone. Where they came from in northern politics to where they are today is testament to that.
Also, I'm sure she is aware that she can't anchor her party to anything on a Friday night light entertainment show nor does she want to castigate those in the electorate who are against her party on the refugee issue at present.
What did you expect her to say?

Isn't part of the reason they're slipping in polls is that they don't take a position on big issues. Same during covid, they kept saying we'll wait till there's more evidence. And just kicked can down road.
I don't know.

I think there is a lack of awareness of what the Late Late Show is though.

Applesisapples

Quote from: lurganblue on February 16, 2024, 09:17:17 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 15, 2024, 03:20:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 15, 2024, 02:46:15 PMHas causeway not been "downgraded" a good bit? (Agree with your points mainly though)

Rates system needs overhauled big time. I think it's crippling businesses - small ones in particular. What's the choice here? Empty buildings and no rates or high rates? I think I hear ones saying it's between rates and VAT. (I would listen to a few of them but MIchael Deane does seem a bit full of it so not sure on his complaints...).
The Trust takes the hit on downgrading of services within a hospital but they can obviously leave the blame (lack of resources) at the door of the politicians. Maternity got axed in Causeway recently I believe. There are far too many "bits" of hospitals around the place. We need fewer and better.

Have any of you been to Craigavon hospital recently? It is in a total mess. It is completely overran with people. Now I know there are major NHS problems contributing but to close more out lying facilities and funnel them to Craigavon sounds like a complete disaster. 
I unfortunately have had to visit CAH  a few times recently due to an ongoing health issue, I don't recognise that description. Though it is true that it like other hospitals faces undue pressure  in A&E. But so too does the GP, the OFH GP  service and as for Dentists. I was lucky if you'd call it that to be red flagged. I got quick efficient and professional service. My wife on the other hand had to pay  for a scan for a non urgent  issue. this whether  we like it or not  is the future. The only way we can afford health care is through  a hybrid service mixing private  and  public that is properly funded so that anyone  who has no access to private is seen quickly  in the HSC. Many jobs no offer private health schemes to attract staff. Those on pensions and benefits will need free access. This is a challenge which will also require Bengoa to be implemented. It will require the dropping of  unsustainable positions by all political parties on free universal health care our  economy is beyond that.

Applesisapples

On another matter the depressing questions asked by a few DUP MLA's during FM questions says more about that party's unwillingness to accept equality  than all  wee Jeff's soundbites put together. The questions include did she know Scappaticci. WTF has that got to do with EO policy. To be fair she answered well.

Rossfan

Quote from: Applesisapples on February 20, 2024, 12:40:21 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on February 16, 2024, 09:17:17 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 15, 2024, 03:20:15 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 15, 2024, 02:46:15 PMHas causeway not been "downgraded" a good bit? (Agree with your points mainly though)

Rates system needs overhauled big time. I think it's crippling businesses - small ones in particular. What's the choice here? Empty buildings and no rates or high rates? I think I hear ones saying it's between rates and VAT. (I would listen to a few of them but MIchael Deane does seem a bit full of it so not sure on his complaints...).
The Trust takes the hit on downgrading of services within a hospital but they can obviously leave the blame (lack of resources) at the door of the politicians. Maternity got axed in Causeway recently I believe. There are far too many "bits" of hospitals around the place. We need fewer and better.

Have any of you been to Craigavon hospital recently? It is in a total mess. It is completely overran with people. Now I know there are major NHS problems contributing but to close more out lying facilities and funnel them to Craigavon sounds like a complete disaster. 
I unfortunately have had to visit CAH  a few times recently due to an ongoing health issue, I don't recognise that description. Though it is true that it like other hospitals faces undue pressure  in A&E. But so too does the GP, the OFH GP  service and as for Dentists. I was lucky if you'd call it that to be red flagged. I got quick efficient and professional service. My wife on the other hand had to pay  for a scan for a non urgent  issue. this whether  we like it or not  is the future. The only way we can afford health care is through  a hybrid service mixing private  and  public that is properly funded so that anyone  who has no access to private is seen quickly  in the HSC. Many jobs no offer private health schemes to attract staff. Those on pensions and benefits will need free access. This is a challenge which will also require Bengoa to be implemented. It will require the dropping of  unsustainable positions by all political parties on free universal health care our  economy is beyond that.

Getting ready for the All Ireland Health system (after the Referendum of course)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM