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mcwregor

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Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2020
« Reply #45 on: May 05, 2022, 09:13:20 PM »
Generally, I don't like the county board battering that often takes place after a bad result. The county board isn't responsible for bad performances of individual county teams. But the county board is responsible for longer-term patterns and I'm afraid these patterns have been pretty grim over the last 4 or 5 years. We are losing/dismissing/not supporting good managers. We are ignoring good ideas being put forward by some of the more enlightened people like Sugrue or Cheddar who took the time to make very concrete suggestions about how to improve things. We have been slow to put youth coaching structures in place. We have been poor in fundraising. We've done little or nothing to encourage greater participation (either as players or supporters). These are the things that eventually lead to a pattern of poor performances on the pitch and the county board has to take responsibility for that.

[Totally agree with this. There is no plan and never was one]

clonadmad

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« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2022, 07:25:39 AM »
All of them. The process is tainted and isn't working for us. It's political to its very core and discourages good people from getting involved. I'm not saying they're not good people because I'm sure they are. But they've clearly run out of ideas and when that happens your time should be up. New appointments to the Laois CB are only ever a continuation of what preceded them. Like minded people who do the same things but have a different name. It's clear we need a change and getting rid of Billy or Cheddar won't be enough. Just my opinion. No doubt many will disagree and fair enough. But I've made up my mind

When I asked you earlier

Should everyone in the county board get the road

You replied

ďAll of themĒ

Itís good to see you stepping back from this position and being a bit more realistic in your assessment of things

The clubs have a case to answer also

Especially when they are sending youngsters to trials without even the most basic of skills.

High Fielder

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« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2022, 08:02:07 AM »
Volunteers shouldn't expect to be power brokers indefinitely. They hide behind it when things go wrong and essentially put themselves beyond accountability because they are volunteers.

On the flip side of the coin, they're not mercenaries either, and shouldn't be expected to take responsibility for a failing county. You can't tell me that as we stand, other people couldn't do what they are doing. In fact, it begs the question why they seem to want to hold on so desperately, for many years, in different positions. Particularly in a failing county.

We are a very good example of a county that needs a fresh approach with a completely different outlook. We shouldn't be afraid to fall or fail because we're at a point where non participation is around the corner. I can see a day where a county in a similar position to ourselves won't have numbers to field a team. I sometimes wonder if we're reaching that point
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georgedoylesrightleg

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« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2022, 11:01:07 AM »
they seem to want to hold on so desperately, for many years, in different positions. Particularly in a failing county.
who are they? i think you need to name the ones who are there for too many years in your opinion.

High Fielder

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« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2022, 11:51:15 AM »
they seem to want to hold on so desperately, for many years, in different positions. Particularly in a failing county.
who are they? i think you need to name the ones who are there for too many years in your opinion.

Luckily for me, what you think is irrelevant. Go do your own digging. Another piss poor attempt to play the man and not the ball.

georgedoylesrightleg

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« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2022, 12:25:04 PM »
what any of us think is irrelevant then. but youíre playing the man by ur own standards all the time.

High Fielder

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« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2022, 12:54:11 PM »
Far from it. I have no problem instigating a topic or giving a viewpoint. You're just trolling plain and simple. Which is fine if that's all you're capable of doing. I mean all you've done so far is troll. Makes me think you're happy with the way things are. But who would know when all you're doing is trolling.

georgedoylesrightleg

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« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2022, 01:01:07 PM »
i wondered had you any solutions. the easy thing is to call someone who doesnt tink the same as you a troll. its offensife.

High Fielder

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« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2022, 01:13:49 PM »
I called you a troll because that's all you're doing. You're not debating. You're not offering an alternative opinion. You're not even saying what your own opinion is. You're just piggybacking other people's posts and trying to discredit them. That's trolling. I'm sorry if that offends you but don't expect to go unchallenged if all you're doing is trolling

Laois Rising

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« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2022, 02:36:23 PM »
Over the last few years our minor team , while not setting the world alight, have performed on par with a county with our playing population. Meath, Dublin, Kildare have far bigger numbers to select from in Leinster. Unlike in the 90s and 00s, every county has a pretty good underage set up. Therefore, it has made the success Laois had in the 90s and early to mid 00s pretty impossible to replicate as the bigger counties are more than likely to hoover up the titles between them.

While we took a hammering in the end against Offaly that can happen with young lads of 16/17 playing football. Their heads went down after a bad start to game. The Offaly players had their tails up and with the result not in doubt proceeded to put up a good score against a defeated Laois team. I wouldn't read too much into one game. After the Louth game some of the same players were receiving huge praise on this very forum for their footballing ability.

The one thing that Laois county board were slow to do in the last ten years was to invest in juvenile football, upping the skills of the players and upping participation numbers. The number and quality of some of our Gaelic development coaches left a lot to be desired in that time. We have finally started to try rectify that situation. There is a long road to travel with it yet. Also, Laois will not regain the success of old until proper investment is made into re-invigorating GAA in Portlaoise and getting kids interested and involved in playing.

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« Reply #55 on: May 18, 2022, 12:08:01 PM »
By the way, fair play to the minors who dug out a good win away to Carlow lst week in the Seamus Heaney Cup for teams who didn't reach the semi final in Leinster. They were without the two dual lads, Byrne and O'Reilly, a couple of injured lads and a couple of lads who were dropped for missing training so overall a good night's work despite a disgraceful sending off of the completely wrong player for what was a very debatable red card.
They play Wexford next.

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« Reply #56 on: May 19, 2022, 09:54:11 AM »

They play Wexford next.
Tonight in Portlaoise.
Well I could keep it above
But then it wouldn't be sky anymore

Chrimtain

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« Reply #57 on: May 19, 2022, 11:51:52 AM »
Can tickets be purchased online for tonight's match?

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« Reply #58 on: May 19, 2022, 12:54:05 PM »
It was free in when they played Carlow in Netwatch Park.

Wexford seem to be promoting the endeavours of their team but only laois today highlighting the match.

Nothing as of yet on Laois website or Facebook, does not bode well for the Tailteann cup for second tier competitions.