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I don't understand the article, am I missing something?

She failed the initial test:

My breathalyser test flashes up a red FAIL, my car is locked and Sergeant Speer escorts me into the back to the marked police car.

but yet going to the police station she knew it wasn't real?

As it goes I'm a well-behaved prisoner. But that's with the luxury of knowing none of this is real. If the tables were turned I've no doubt I would join in the ranks of people who sit in the back of the car crying, begging for the matter to be sorted out some other way, apologising and swearing it would never happen again. None of which would do me any good.

Do gooders writing stories like this would drive you to drink!

It was an enactment for her newspaper article.

Fair play to her I say.

For those singing Harry Kewells praises, I have only one thing to say, He is a choker, he walked off against Milan in Istanbul when we looked dead and buried with a myseterious injury. I was one of the lucky fans who stood up and sang YNWA at half time when we were 3-0 down. Rafa heard us, Stevie G heard us and you know the rest. If you watch the final penalty that Dudek saves, Kewell was the first man to sprint down the field and celebrate, where was his injury then. He has played far to few games for Liverpool, in fact I think he came to Liverpool a few years too late, he would have been a perfect Spice Boy. He is a s famous for being married to some actress from Emerdale as he is for playing football, enough said.

According to Steven Gerrard's autobiogrpahy, Kewell's injury in Istanbul was genuine (apparently his groin had swollen up to the size of a tennis ball by half-time!). Maybe Gerrard was protecting Kewell, but I've not heard anyone else from within the club say it wasn't legit.

Where are you at Gabriel?

Torres came to Liverpool with a good scoring record but with a reputation as a big game choker.   He vanished when up against Real or Barca in Spain and his debut against ManU did him no favours.  He looked like a conference player.   His first touch today was the worst I've seen for some time.

That's funny - he scored a marvellous goal against Chelsea, and (according to an article in the London Times today) has an excellent record against Barcelona.

But, if the standard of the debate is judging a player on select games, including today's, lets talk about Cristiano Ronaldo...

Didnt see the game but had the misfortune to hear it on 5 Live where that fat cnut Alan Green slagged off every united player

A despicable racist as well.  Can't stand the man.

Alan Green is a racist?

J70 we made it easy for united. We were playing at home and we didnt get our midfield on the ball, winning 50/50 balls, crisp passing, 1-2s round them. get the wingers into the game and stretch their defence and create space. Sweet jesus Brown Anderson and Hargreves were part of that awesome immovable force you speak about.

What did we do. Long balls up field. Just cause Van der sar dropped a few did we think he might keep doing it..
Was there no plan B?

Once Utd seen that all we had was the long ball of course they were going to set themselves up the way they finished the game.

I for one am not happy with the style of play and its down to Rafa. Its lazy and brainless and while it may win once off cup games it wouldnt come with an asses roar of the premiership. With trips to Utd CFC and arsenal still to come we are looking at being 20 points off the pace again this year come May.

If you're unhappy with the style of play, fair enough. Who am I to tell you you're wrong?

However, it was clear from a very early stage today that Liverpool weren't going to pass the ball around United. Sure, they tried it, but balls kept going astray or being cut out by United's defense/midfield. How many times did Kewell lose it, either being outmuscled, outnumbered or by giving a pass away? It certainly looked like Liverpool were doing their best to get him and Benayoun in the game to me.

And I'm not sure what game you were watching if you think Liverpool weren't competing for 50/50 balls. They won a succession of tackles, particularly throughout the second half, as United tried to clear their lines, after which Liverpool generally tried to work the ball onto the wings. The problem was that the crosses were going into areas packed with players and dominated by the likes of Ferdinand and Vidic.

One other thing - this was the exact same lineup that was lauded for their performance in Marseille. Had he changed it and still lost, the screaming about rotation would now be drowning out all other criticisms of things like formations and tactics!

I thought there was supposed to be a 30 second addition to make up for substitutions?

Who paid 30m for a striker?

We did.. torres.. 26.5 but whos counting.
Playing like we did today renders whoever you have upfront sterile..
Torres' strength isnt in the air so why persist launching scuds up to him

How would you have played the game, tactically, then? Would you have asked United to move their back line up the field a bit, and lose the two midfielders in front of their back four, just to give Torres a bit of space to attack and through which Gerrard could play some passes?

A shocking game..
Whats the point of paying 30m for a striker when you play like wimbledon. Vidic and Rio will clear the ball away all day when its humped into the box.

Their two central midfielders were awesome.

No they were made look good by a brainless midfield performance by Pool
Cant see Rafa surviving after that performance and no loss if thats the style of play we have to look forward to

Or maybe the midfield performance look poor because of the pressure the United players were putting Liverpool under, sitting back and quickly closing everything down whenever Liverpool got into the final third?

United were camped on the edge of their box for most of the second half. Liverpool tried to work it down the wings, but between the numbers United had in the box and the aerial ability of their defenders, there just wasn't any space in there, even when they did manage to put a ball across. Even Arsenal would have struggled to create space in that United backline today.

None of us complained when Liverpool won a few at Old Trafford under Houllier using the exact same tactics. Give credit where its due.

Benitez isn't going anywhere. Who are they going to get to replace him? Mourinho? Do you think he'll be keen when he's told that money is going to be relatively scarce?

I'm not saying that they should be endlessly patient with Benitez, but the club is plainly in far better shape than it was when Houllier left. Its unfortunate that Chelsea have become a powerhouse since then and that United and Arsenal have also raised their game, but that's the way it goes. I just hope the owners are a bit more patient and realistic than the fans who venerate him one week then call for his instant dismissal after every setback.

I really would like to see lucas getting a bit more game time in the team. Mascherano is hit and miss for me and the less said about momo the better.

I thought Mascherano was one of our better players! Lucas has looked decent though - I would liked to have seen him given a run for the last 20 and Gerrard moved out wide in place of Benayoun.

At least they're standing their ground - look at Rooney!

Went pretty much as all the recent games at Anfield has gone - United sit back, stay tight, do little or nothing offensively, but take their chance when it comes. Liverpool have all of the possession, plenty of effort and commitment, but huff and puff and create little or nothing (apart from the chances van der Sar presented them with), and fall asleep to give United their chance. The gap in class is still there - United won without having to play anywhere near their best. Their two central midfielders were awesome.

The two United central-midfielders are sitting on front of the back-four and cleaning up everything. I can't see Liverpool scoring from open-play, unless they up the tempo a bit more, but given the way passes are going astray so far, I don't see that having much of an effect anyway. United will probably hit them on the break and get another.

Kewell is not having much of an effect and is constantly losing or giving the ball away. They may need a change there. Benayoun as well - he's not contributing much, while Evra is getting far too much of the ball. Sooner or later he's going to get a good cross in. Maybe get Lucas on and move Gerrard out wide.

Who proclaimed him as the messiah? Must have missed that one

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2nd Dec...to me that's messiahish worshiping!

We will be staying in Port Charlotte from 20th to 30th. Its an hour and a half from Tampa.

I know Port Charlotte well. Its a nice quiet town, but not a lot happens there, and virtually nothing of note sportswise! The Texas Rangers used to have spring training there up until a couple of years ago (so you'd get friendly games against the likes of the Yankees), but the town hasn't been able to attract any other major league teams since they left for Arizona. There were rumours of the Tampa Bay Devil Rays moving their training there from 2009, but I'm not sure if that is confirmed.

If you're down Fort Myers direction, Sanibel and Captiva are worth a visit, particularly if you're into wildlife (the JD Ding Darling preserve is great for birds and alligators). Also, there is a Henry Ford-Thomas Edison museum in Fort Myers based around their old winter residences (they literally lived across the street from each other). There is (or at least used to be) a manatee sanctuary along the Caloosahatchee River in Fort Myers. They have manatees and other animals on exhibit, and they run tours along the river and the mangroves to see them in the wild (alligators too). The Babcock Ranch, a few miles inland from Port Charlotte/Punta Gorda, does wildlife tours of the forests and swamps.

The whole Charlotte Harbor area is excellent for water sports or sailing, particular if you have friends who have a boat or if you want to do a bit of canoeing or something.