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General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
« on: Today at 03:34:01 PM »
Itís of course fair that the pros and cons should be discussed.

But what is supposed to be done with refugees?

Whether itís Syrians or Ukrainians or victims if wherever the next conflict is, do we just turn our back and ďsay not our problem, we have enough to deal with ourselvesĒ?

Iím sure most countries are in the same boat.

How do you prepare for a sudden onslaught of displaced refugees?

Have a bunch of facilities waiting around and bring maintained for that purpose?

Because then youíll hear all about the waste and how they could be better used for our own people.

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McDaidís Football Special is still around after all these years? :)

Brilliant!

Used to love one of them on the odd occasion weíd get to the cinema when I was a kid.

How do they work on the meat in the slow cooker!

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General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
« on: February 02, 2023, 10:57:56 PM »
Surprising that an Eritrean child soldier didnít settle or integrate in the UK

Fair point.

However, surely this lad wasnít the only child soldier granted asylum in the west.

Is he typical?

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General discussion / Re: Premier League 2022-2023
« on: February 02, 2023, 08:23:59 PM »
The Ukrainian kid did look sharp when he came on against Liverpool (fair enough, not currently the sternest test!).

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General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
« on: February 02, 2023, 08:21:01 PM »
That man murdered randomly in London by the Eritrean asylum seeker was Irish and from Belfast according to the report.

And..?

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General discussion / Re: Is it soccer or football ?
« on: February 02, 2023, 05:39:10 PM »
That said, these days I'd use soccer for the most part as I live in the US.

I make a point of saying American football though. :)

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General discussion / Re: Is it soccer or football ?
« on: February 02, 2023, 05:36:11 PM »
Growing up in south Donegal we played gaelic and football.

The word soccer never spoken. Hurling simply wasn't a factor.

Think I was 15 the first time I saw a real life hurley. A lad at school was belting a sliotar about, but didn't see one after that until I went to college.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: February 02, 2023, 02:37:55 PM »
"And these are all the same people who for years have dismissed real concerns about the likes of second hand smoking or asbestos or air and water pollution etc. The same people who support the Republican Party who back big corporations at every turn and try to screw the little people by abolishing health and safety and consumer protecting regulations as well as inflicting arbitration and barring class action lawsuits to resolve conflicts. Yet now they want us to listen to them? f**k them".

You are so naive, into labeling yet again. Do you back Big Pharma? Is there any bigger and more profitable Corporations in existence outside the likes of Blackwater, another corp you probably support. Do you support the unelected WEF? Klaus Schwab I bet is one of your heroes along with Gates and Fauci and of course Sleepy Joe. The you try and preach your mindless rhetoric from your little pulpit. You are sound reasonable and solid enough when it comes to the GAA, please keep away from world affairs as it further corrupts the already corrupted.

No, I donít ďbackĒ Big Pharma, or Big Oil, or Big Tech or any of these huge corporations and conglomerates. For better or worse, theyíre part of and shapers of the capitalist, globalized world we live in and that isn't going to change. Iím all in favour of reducing corporate influence on politics where most politicians of whatever leaning are bought and paid for by special interests, but Citizens United and the hostility of the Republican Party and their Supreme Court to sensible political funding has ended any prospect of that, at least in the US. Iím all in favour of strict regulations that impose standards on food, drugs, water, emissions, worker and consumer safety, pollution, conservation etc. etc and hold corporations accountable to the people. Are you?

I'm fortunate enough that myself and my wife are able to pay little extra to support local, small businesses, both here in NYC and when upstate or out of state. Unfortunately, not everyone has that luxury. And unless you forgo having a car, a computer, tv, phone etc. etc., you're just as much as supporter of globalization and big corporations as the rest of us.

You believe in Big Pharma and purchase their products and you do not have to, I don't. Why do you support the Democratic Party? You are against so many things that they stand for. Were you asleep while the FTX scandal was happening?. Sorry, it must be a conspiracy theory, FTX never funded the Democratic Party and at least one Republican member and it wasn't a physop to usher in CBDCs. All members of Congress and the Senate are multi-millionaires including members of the Democratic Party but no, the Democratic members are not capitalists. I have told you before that we have one party in the disguise of two. Both lie through their teeth and answer to the same beat of the drum.

We have a different meaning for Globalization also. I support independent sovereign nations with their cultures intact. I do not support open borders, what is happening in Ireland is a disgrace, bought politicians the lot of them. Do you support the WEF? Own Nothing and Be Happy?

Sorry Seamus, as Iím a complete layperson when it comes to medicine, Iíll defer to the medical professionals. Those include a sibling and their spouse. Iím sure to you theyíre automatically just cogs in the corrupt pharma-medical complex, but whatever floats your boat.

On the rest, yeah Iím sure from your perspective on whatever extreme edge of the political spectrum youíre on, the Dems and the GOP are near identical, but most people lie on a much narrower band and so the interparty differences, such as those on the issues I outlined, are very important (although I never said the Dems weren't capitalists or weren't corrupt or weren't playing in the money trough designed by Citizens United). But this topic belongs on the US Politics thread which has pretty much been shut down.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: February 01, 2023, 01:30:19 PM »
"And these are all the same people who for years have dismissed real concerns about the likes of second hand smoking or asbestos or air and water pollution etc. The same people who support the Republican Party who back big corporations at every turn and try to screw the little people by abolishing health and safety and consumer protecting regulations as well as inflicting arbitration and barring class action lawsuits to resolve conflicts. Yet now they want us to listen to them? f**k them".

You are so naive, into labeling yet again. Do you back Big Pharma? Is there any bigger and more profitable Corporations in existence outside the likes of Blackwater, another corp you probably support. Do you support the unelected WEF? Klaus Schwab I bet is one of your heroes along with Gates and Fauci and of course Sleepy Joe. The you try and preach your mindless rhetoric from your little pulpit. You are sound reasonable and solid enough when it comes to the GAA, please keep away from world affairs as it further corrupts the already corrupted.

No, I donít ďbackĒ Big Pharma, or Big Oil, or Big Tech or any of these huge corporations and conglomerates. For better or worse, theyíre part of and shapers of the capitalist, globalized world we live in and that isn't going to change. Iím all in favour of reducing corporate influence on politics where most politicians of whatever leaning are bought and paid for by special interests, but Citizens United and the hostility of the Republican Party and their Supreme Court to sensible political funding has ended any prospect of that, at least in the US. Iím all in favour of strict regulations that impose standards on food, drugs, water, emissions, worker and consumer safety, pollution, conservation etc. etc and hold corporations accountable to the people. Are you?

I'm fortunate enough that myself and my wife are able to pay little extra to support local, small businesses, both here in NYC and when upstate or out of state. Unfortunately, not everyone has that luxury. And unless you forgo having a car, a computer, tv, phone etc. etc., you're just as much as supporter of globalization and big corporations as the rest of us.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: February 01, 2023, 12:31:07 PM »
WERE those who raised concerns about those drugs labeled conspiracy theorists?

Part of my issue with this is that the antivax stuff has become part of the culture war. It used to be that it was bunch of New Age hippy types who were pushing antivax stuff based on the Wakefield MMR controversy.

With Covid, the antivax movement became part of the backlash to pandemic measures in general. No to masking, lockdowns and vaccines. Yes to "freedom" and Ivomec or whatever the miracle cure du jour being pushed by the contrarians and anti-establishment was that week.

And these are all the same people who for years have dismissed real concerns about the likes of second hand smoking or asbestos or air and water pollution etc. The same people who support the Republican Party who back big corporations at every turn and try to screw the little people by abolishing health and safety and consumer protecting regulations as well as inflicting arbitration and barring class action lawsuits to resolve conflicts. Yet now they want us to listen to them? f**k them.

It might turn out that the covid vaccines have some dangerous side effects (or it might not). But Iíll look to the science and medical professionals for that analysis and advice. Professionals and analysis being the operative words.   

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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2023
« on: February 01, 2023, 12:03:58 PM »
Some done, a lot to do.....

That's the way I look at it.

We Donegal supporters thoroughly enjoyed Sunday, but I think we're still in for a serious fight to stay in the division.

We're away to the other three Ulster teams as well as the Rossies.

Home to Mayo and Galway, with the Galway game in f**king O'Donnell Park, our bogie pitch.

We could easily fail to get the required six points.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Should An Glenn object?
« on: February 01, 2023, 11:59:24 AM »
Forgive me if its already been discussed (I haven't read all of the thread), but is there any reason why the GAA can't do substitutions the way they do them in soccer?

At the halfway point on the sideline, players come off before substitute goes on. Ref or linesman oversees it?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Should An Glenn object?
« on: February 01, 2023, 11:53:33 AM »
How many GAA finals have an asterisk beside them? I know Mayo people are sore about the 1925 all Ireland. They were the 1925 Connacht champions but Galway were the 1925 all Ireland champions...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1925_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship_Final

There was no All-Ireland Senior Football Championship Final in 1925. The 1925 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship ended in chaos, with first Mayo, and then Galway being proclaimed champions after Kerry and Cavan were disqualified. Instead, a new inter-provincial tournament was organised by the GAA Central Council, of which the final was played between Galway and Cavan on 10 January 1926.

Some book about the founding and early days of the GAA, I read a few years back had a good bit on disputes and finals and stuff decided in committee meetings on rules. Can't remember the specifics off-hand but there was a right chunk of the early championships that could have different results based on what was decided in committee meetings. It's pretty much one of the longest running traditions of the Association at this stage.

So no prospect of the GAA getting its shit together with respect to rules and regulations any time soon then? :)

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: February 01, 2023, 11:34:30 AM »
Not to denigrate the opinions expressed on this thread but in general, it must be exhausting being of a conspiracy theorist's mindset, why all the crossover tho? Anti-Vaxxers will undoubtedly be stuck in the middle of pro Russian nonsense or extolling the virtues of Trump or telling us why all lives matter. I'd be thinking Facebook more so than here.

Itís amazing how one belief can be predicted by another. They all share the idea that the conspiracy theorist is getting shafted and lied to by dark hidden forces, that everyone else is a mindless sheep and only they know the real story. Theyíre all just ďasking questionsĒ, independently conducting their ďresearchĒ. Yet they all end up in exactly the same place. ;D

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: February 01, 2023, 11:24:33 AM »
It could take many years for the origin of the virus to be established. Just like HIV. Or some of the haemorragic viruses. That will done by scientists, not conspiracy theorists or right wing politicians with an agenda.

The origins have been the subject of much discussion in the scientific world. The idea that itís all being swept under the carpet is nonsense. The maligned Dr Daszak was warning the world about coronaviruses for years, but now heís just a corrupt punch bag for the right, same as Fauci.

The conspiracy theorists canít lose with this one. Lab leak is confirmed - they can go with the malicious release angle. Direct animal origin found - cover up by evil scientists and the Chinese.
Pfizer either lied or didnít know about transmission, they claimed 95% proof against getting the virus once you were vaccinated, efficacy seems like a lie too but itís all a right wing conspiracy theory. A nice company like Pfizer would never lie about a first time product and make hundreds of billions off it but only release it with full immunity , no you would be silly to even think about that stuff.

What does Pfizer have to do with the origin of the virus?

Was that them too?

Do you have data to contradict their claims, as stated by you, on the initial vaccines and the viral strains at the time?

Donít you right wingers love big corporations? Or is it just certain fields like oil?
I never said Pfizer started it but where do you think it came from ?

Either it made the direct jump from animals (like so many have done and will do in the future) or it was accidentally released from a lab. The former more likely in my opinion. And a big cause for concern.

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