Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[Norf Tyrone]

Standard of league football has dipped imo, maybe its people being away travelling but some teams seem very weak.

Errigal ticking along nicely

Friday night football might be an issue.

Men working all day, quick bite and travelling 30 mins to a game. It has to impact on performance.

[In hiding]

Standard of league football has dipped imo, maybe its people being away travelling but some teams seem very weak.

Errigal ticking along nicely

Probably teams missing  some of their best players due to America/holidays would be an issue.

Championship is Errigals to lose

[Mikhailov]

Whilst Friday night is a good idea from the supporter and player perspective, I ultimately feel it has led to a down turn in quality of football we are seeing. This could be down to a number of reasons -

1. End of the working week, straight home & straight to game with little preparation - not ideal
2. Due to Friday nights, most teams can only train Tuesday (one night) in advance therefore again affecting performance in comparison to normal situation of 2 nights training & game on a Sunday
3. Holidays, travelling, USA, working away etc
4. Young lads nowadays don't have GAA at the top of their priority list, there is a lot more going on in their lives and massive opportunities work wise which means moving away or working a distance from home

Friday nights are popular among the players due to the social aspect also and obviously supporters like the idea but definitely it is noticeable that the standard has dropped.

Maybe, I am being harsh here but I have seen loads of football over the last 6/8 weeks at all adult levels and there is no stand out team particularly at senior level which for sure creates competitiveness and excitement during the league & championship.

[Tyrone2021]

Whilst Friday night is a good idea from the supporter and player perspective, I ultimately feel it has led to a down turn in quality of football we are seeing. This could be down to a number of reasons -

1. End of the working week, straight home & straight to game with little preparation - not ideal
2. Due to Friday nights, most teams can only train Tuesday (one night) in advance therefore again affecting performance in comparison to normal situation of 2 nights training & game on a Sunday
3. Holidays, travelling, USA, working away etc
4. Young lads nowadays don't have GAA at the top of their priority list, there is a lot more going on in their lives and massive opportunities work wise which means moving away or working a distance from home

Friday nights are popular among the players due to the social aspect also and obviously supporters like the idea but definitely it is noticeable that the standard has dropped.

Maybe, I am being harsh here but I have seen loads of football over the last 6/8 weeks at all adult levels and there is no stand out team particularly at senior level which for sure creates competitiveness and excitement during the league & championship.

Really isn't a social aspect in my opinion, most clubs still go Sunday mornings. Not all but most

[WT4E]

Just a post to acknowledge Kildress U-15 girls who won feile on behalf of the county yesterday. An outstanding group of players produced by the club and coaches who have brought great pride to the Parish

maith sibh a chailíní

[Mikhailov]

Whilst Friday night is a good idea from the supporter and player perspective, I ultimately feel it has led to a down turn in quality of football we are seeing. This could be down to a number of reasons -

1. End of the working week, straight home & straight to game with little preparation - not ideal
2. Due to Friday nights, most teams can only train Tuesday (one night) in advance therefore again affecting performance in comparison to normal situation of 2 nights training & game on a Sunday
3. Holidays, travelling, USA, working away etc
4. Young lads nowadays don't have GAA at the top of their priority list, there is a lot more going on in their lives and massive opportunities work wise which means moving away or working a distance from home

Friday nights are popular among the players due to the social aspect also and obviously supporters like the idea but definitely it is noticeable that the standard has dropped.

Maybe, I am being harsh here but I have seen loads of football over the last 6/8 weeks at all adult levels and there is no stand out team particularly at senior level which for sure creates competitiveness and excitement during the league & championship.

Really isn't a social aspect in my opinion, most clubs still go Sunday mornings. Not all but most

Don't doubt that at all, in fact I know most go on Sundays but the lads certainly socialise now after the game on a Friday and deservedly so. They deserve some freedom after the last few years

[Keyboard Warrior]

Standard of league football has dipped imo, maybe its people being away travelling but some teams seem very weak.

Errigal ticking along nicely

Probably teams missing  some of their best players due to America/holidays would be an issue.

Championship is Errigals to lose

The Ulster Cub Championship, I presume?

[In hiding]

Standard of league football has dipped imo, maybe its people being away travelling but some teams seem very weak.

Errigal ticking along nicely

Probably teams missing  some of their best players due to America/holidays would be an issue.

Championship is Errigals to lose

The Ulster Cub Championship, I presume?

Possibly

[GaelTheGael]

Standard of league football has dipped imo, maybe its people being away travelling but some teams seem very weak.

Errigal ticking along nicely

We are likely looking at Senior football being at its weakest it has been in a long time. Only two teams of genuine quality would be Trillick and Errigal. After a lot of teams could make a point for being the next best team - Dungannon, Killyclogher, Dromore. A lot of big teams are at a transition stage like Coalisland and Omagh and then a lot of the other teams are young and finding their feet like Carrickmore. I think its just the teams now aren't as strong as they were rather than Friday games causing a decline.

[Tyrone2021]

Standard of league football has dipped imo, maybe its people being away travelling but some teams seem very weak.

Errigal ticking along nicely

We are likely looking at Senior football being at its weakest it has been in a long time. Only two teams of genuine quality would be Trillick and Errigal. After a lot of teams could make a point for being the next best team - Dungannon, Killyclogher, Dromore. A lot of big teams are at a transition stage like Coalisland and Omagh and then a lot of the other teams are young and finding their feet like Carrickmore. I think its just the teams now aren't as strong as they were rather than Friday games causing a decline.

Finding our feet? We won the league last year, we've already beaten last years championship winners

[Under Lights]

Think everyone has made a fair point. The weakeat in each division look really really weak.

I can't see our aenior champions this year causing too much fuss in Ulster this year. Errigal best equipped and have a decent draw this year but were easily undone by a high ball last year.

[cynic]

Standard of league football has dipped imo, maybe its people being away travelling but some teams seem very weak.

Errigal ticking along nicely

We are likely looking at Senior football being at its weakest it has been in a long time. Only two teams of genuine quality would be Trillick and Errigal. After a lot of teams could make a point for being the next best team - Dungannon, Killyclogher, Dromore. A lot of big teams are at a transition stage like Coalisland and Omagh and then a lot of the other teams are young and finding their feet like Carrickmore. I think its just the teams now aren't as strong as they were rather than Friday games causing a decline.

Finding our feet? We won the league last year, we've already beaten last years championship winners

I think the "weak" point may be a bit over-stated.  I bet you if you spoke to anyone from Errigal, they're not going around thinking everyone else they meet in the championship will be "weak"!  There is a difference between perceived player quality and results, in our championship anyway.  That all goes out the window come co c'ship time, most clubs feel they can beat anyone on the day, and every so called stronger team is very aware they can be nipped on the day also.  Also, the competitive nature of our club c'ship is a big factor in why our clubs traditionally underperform in the provincials.  It's such a battle to win the county that teams are spent when they win it; and also they simply don't care as much (too happy to have won the county - the attitude that everything else is a mere bonus); and finally any team needs a run at the provincials.  I know from speaking to people in Derrygonnelly that they were hammered in their first year in the provincial, and only started to become competitive in their second or third year at it, once the novelty of winning the county had worn off.  That suits counties where you have one team who is miles ahead of its opposition in the county, your Kilcoos, Derrygonnellys, Crossmaglens etc.  Tyrone isn't like that.  I remember Kilcoo guys saying how, at the start of their year, they set themselves a target of winning the Ulster and the All Ireland.  But if you tried that crack in a Tyrone club, you'd be shouted down for "losing focus" and for being an arrogant idiot - it would be seen as pie-in-the-sky thinking / unlucky, to chat about that before winning the county.  So what happens in Tyrone is a newbie team, very inexperienced in provincial terms, who has not paced themselves or timed their training for a provincial run, emerges, unprepared, already very pleased with themselves, after a heavy bout of celebrations, blinking in the headlights, and gets turned over by a grimly-determined team for another county, often a team who more or less expects to win their county and who will not be remotely satisfied by merely winning their county.  Until Tyrone becomes a county where one or at most 2 teams always win the county, we're sadly unlikely ever to do much outside the county.

[Eire90]

Does the tyrone  league have playoffs to determine champion or does the top of the league after the round robin be  the winners.

[tiempo]

Good post cynic, a couple more thoughts

Cross won 21 out of 22 titles in their Armagh run
Kilcoo 9 of the last 10 in Down
Derrygonnley 5 of the last 6 in Fermanagh

There's not a snowballs chance in hell any of those clubs would've done that or anything close in Tyrone

Also, someone has to win and someone has to lose, Tyrone clubs have played in some great games and gone very close, there are a number of Tyrone clubs fit to compete at the top level on any given year

Lastly, I thought it was a shame the 2020 championship winners across the Ulster counties weren't given an opportunity to play in the 2021 Ulster club, as a one off with extra teams, its a brilliant competition already but for that extra novelty and just to be fair to Dungannon and others

ps whatever happened with the Dongal appeal saga, is that still ongoing (please don't answer, I'd rather assume it is)

[FermGael]

Jesus lads it's a bit early for this chat.

Tyrone club football is a very competitive standard.
Would be about 10 clubs in Tyrone with realistic ambitions of winning the Tyrone county title .
With the exception of Errigal, who had the greatest footballer of the last 25 years plus an outstanding manager , nobody has been up to the the top tier in Ulster .

I have heard various excuses over the years .
You use  Fermanagh , Down and Armagh.
That Cross team would have won Tyrone no bother .
Maybe not that amount but they still would have gotten 6 in a row .
Derrygonnelly had been beaten the previous year and were very very lucky to win Fermanagh as Edenery should have beat them in the quarter final . Kilcoo won 6 or 7 Down titles and were no where close to winning Ulster until they brought Moran in

Recently Slaughtneil won Ulster clubs after winning I believe one county championship previously.
Gweedore in Donegal also won an ulster club with out winning previous county titles or competing consistently at that level .

Tyrone football is good competitive football.
Issue is that the standard is below the top tier in Ulster .