What is the most likely future of Northern Ireland ?

Started by seafoid, April 28, 2022, 12:43:07 PM

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seafoid

Will the Brits continue to prop it up?
Will the South ever agree to take on the responsibility ?
Are SF competent ?
Will a pragmatic Unionism emerge?
Will Antrim ever join the Liam McCarthy permanently
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

armaghniac


Will the Brits continue to prop it up? Yes
Will the South ever agree to take on the responsibility ? Yes
Are SF competent ? No
Will a pragmatic Unionism emerge? No
Will Antrim ever join the Liam McCarthy permanently? No
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

general_lee

Quote from: seafoid on April 28, 2022, 12:43:07 PM
Will the Brits continue to prop it up? Kicking and screaming
Will the South ever agree to take on the responsibility ? Yes
Are SF competent ? Yes
Will a pragmatic Unionism emerge? Alliance party
Will Antrim ever join the Liam McCarthy permanently yes

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: seafoid on April 28, 2022, 12:43:07 PM
Will the Brits continue to prop it up? Unwillingly
Will the South ever agree to take on the responsibility ?Yes
Are SF competent ? No
Will a pragmatic Unionism emerge? Hopefully
Will Antrim ever join the Liam McCarthy permanently Not for another 20 years

Mourne Red

Will the Brits continue to prop it up? Until their patience runs out
Will the South ever agree to take on the responsibility? Yes
Are SF competent ? - No, "comrade" shite on their twitter pushes away moderates
Will a pragmatic Unionism emerge? Alliance
Will Antrim ever join the Liam McCarthy permanently? More chance of Casement being built



yellowcard

Will the Brits continue to prop it up? In the short term yes but in the background there will be those in the British establishment who are already thinking of how best to make a strategic withdrawal.
Will the South ever agree to take on the responsibility ? Yes, if it is voted for democratically via a border poll then a phased subvention from US/EU will ease the burden until the country reconfigures economically.
Are SF competent ? They have come a long way but still have more to do to convince. The proof of the pudding will be their performance if and when they enter proper government in the south.
Will a pragmatic Unionism emerge? It already does but the lundification from loyalists & hard unionism drowns it out politically.
Will Antrim ever join the Liam McCarthy permanently Short to mid term, no. Long term, with a bit of luck.

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Armagh18

Will the Brits continue to prop it up? Not forever
Will the South ever agree to take on the responsibility ? Yes as SF will be in government soon
Are SF competent ? Yes
Will a pragmatic Unionism emerge? Alliance
Will Antrim ever join the Liam McCarthy permanently. Eventually.

balladmaker

#8
Will the Brits continue to prop it up? No.
Will the South ever agree to take on the responsibility ? Yes, with a predicted economic benefit of unification estimated to be in the range of 30 billion euro, it makes perfect sense.
Are SF competent ? Yes.
Will a pragmatic Unionism emerge? Unionist with a small 'u', agree ... with that likely to be Alliance.
Will Antrim ever join the Liam McCarthy permanently. Yes.

screenexile


Will the Brits continue to prop it up? No.
Will the South ever agree to take on the responsibility ? Yeah I think they will due to the guilt of letting us go in the first place
Are SF competent ? Have seen very little evidence of it bar 1 or 2 decent politicians if/when they get into Govt in the South will tell the tale!
Will a pragmatic Unionism emerge? I think so yes between the Alliance and UUP the younger generation of middle class are getting apathetic to the whole thing
Will Antrim ever join the Liam McCarthy permanently. Not unless the GAA pull the finger out or a JP McManus type figure pumps a shedload of cash into it

Eamonnca1

Will the Brits continue to prop it up? For as long as they have to, yes.
Will the South ever agree to take on the responsibility? If the voters choose it, they'll have to.
Are SF competent? More so than before.
Will a pragmatic Unionism emerge? I hope so. Alliance has had a few wins, and Doug Beattie is taking the UUP in the direction they should have gone years ago by being a moderate alternative to the DUP, taking it back to the successful strategy it had under Molyneux. Trying to out-DUP the DUP has not worked for them. It'll be interesting to see how it works for them in the assembly election.
Will Antrim ever join the Liam McCarthy permanently? "Ever" implies an infinite amount of time into the future, so it's entirely possible.

Eire90

sf  become biggest party with lots of weeks of talking  and nolan and crawley on about it every day

Armagh18

Think Naomi Long puts it well in one of the Alliance interviews, you wouldnt hire someone for a job and let them decide they will only do it depending on who else is working alongside them so how could you vote for anyone that won't go into government if the person they want leading isn't leading.

smelmoth

Honestly think it will boil down to money.

If NI is weaned off GB reliance then it will be easier to sell to the RoI taxpayer.

Softer unionists will in time get more comfortable with the idea of a NI within a UI. At the same time nationalists will have to get used to the idea that a NI within a UI is exactly that i.e. we would still have a 6 county entity with rights to British identity/passport and power sharing via D'Hondt and a role for the GB government.

This also gives the RoI voter the reassurance that the entity they will be taking on offers something for unionists. Not that I think this means a seamless and peaceful transition. In all likelihood it will be messy and people on the island will die. We are a basket case and will provide trouble for anyone that tries to help us.

dec

I don't think money will change many Unionist minds. The RoI was an economic basket case for much of it's existence. So much so that despite a high birthrate the population actually declined because so many people left.
And yet never in that time was there a movement to rejoin the UK even though that may have been a better option economically.