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Title: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Ogie on January 31, 2022, 02:02:00 PM
Probably more longevity in a championship topic rather than just a managers topic, but we'll start with 2022 Managers , list so far - ( 4 semi finalists are all staying the same I believe

Clough Ballacolla - Declan Laffan with Pat Cleere, Shane Maher
Borris Kilcotton - Ciaran Comerford, Trevor Moore, Eoin Bergin Mick Boyhan S&C
Rathdowney Errill - Shane Keegan, Kevin Power, Eoin Fitzpatrick, Tom Hasset S&C
Camross - David Cuddy, John Kennedy (Templederry, Richie Hitchcock S&C
Rosenallis - ?
The Harps - Ollie Baker,
Ballinakill - Eamon Jackman, Jimmy Walsh
Castletown - David Cuddy, John O Sullivan
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on January 31, 2022, 05:16:21 PM
Oille Baker gone to the Harps he was with Belmout last year.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on February 09, 2022, 07:03:47 AM
Was just reading about this on Laois Today. They also mentioned how well the previous manager had done with The Harps.
That man has some agent!!!
It took 3 attempts to win the Senior A (I think!) and then they didn't win a game in the Senior championship once promoted.
Baffling.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Ogie on February 09, 2022, 01:58:57 PM
Agreed Keyser, another Laois Today favourite,

Baker would be brought on board with the Garda connection, he's at Superintendent rank now in Tullamore, Laois Offaly Garda Chief John Scanlon is The Harps Treasurer

On the Senior B side of things Abbeyleix have brought in Derek Dunne ex Clonad, Down Camogie manager with Barney Naughnane of Kilruane coaching formerly of Clough Ballacolla & Borris Kilcotton they would be a good bet to go back up.

Any word on Portlaoise ?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois Rising on February 09, 2022, 04:47:45 PM
Watching Naas go all the way in the intermediate championship and Kilmoley of Kerry make the final, it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility for a club like Abbeyleix (if they were to win Laois this year) to give the Leinster intermediate championship a right rattle. They have a good age profile and with some experienced campaigners to boot, 2022 should be a year that they really target getting everything right and everyone on board. Clough Ballacolla showed what Laois clubs are capable of on the Leinster stage with a bit of confidence, determination and drive.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on February 09, 2022, 05:39:33 PM
Abbeyleix should win the senior B but might not get it all there own way senior B is always tricky. And updates on other senior B managers? Trumrea have a former Camross player over them I hear. Also well done to laois lads hurling with Carlow It last nice great win. Would be great to see a laois man lift the fitzgibbon Cup.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Ogie on February 09, 2022, 09:53:52 PM
Brendan Lowry with Trumera, Damien Walsh stepped down
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: blueandwhite1 on February 10, 2022, 01:39:51 PM
Quote from: Laois Rising on February 09, 2022, 04:47:45 PM
Watching Naas go all the way in the intermediate championship and Kilmoley of Kerry make the final, it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility for a club like Abbeyleix (if they were to win Laois this year) to give the Leinster intermediate championship a right rattle. They have a good age profile and with some experienced campaigners to boot, 2022 should be a year that they really target getting everything right and everyone on board. Clough Ballacolla showed what Laois clubs are capable of on the Leinster stage with a bit of confidence, determination and drive.

Usually a Kilkenny team lurking in there having just won the ultra-competitive KK intermediate title that makes light work of the rest of the teams. Naas form the backbone of the Kildare team which will probably rise through the ranks to the same level as we are in the coming years.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Ogie on February 11, 2022, 09:33:33 AM
Clough Ballacolla - Declan Laffan with Pat Cleere, Shane Maher
Borris Kilcotton - Ciaran Comerford, Trevor Moore, Eoin Bergin Mick Boyhan S&C
Rathdowney Errill - ? ?
Camross - David Cuddy, John Kennedy (Templederry, Richie Hitchcock S&C
Rosenallis - ?
The Harps - Ollie Baker,
Ballinakill - Eamon Jackman, Jimmy Walsh
Castletown - David Cuddy, John O Sullivan
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on February 23, 2022, 12:00:39 PM
Any word on who is training Plaois and Colt/Shanahoe for the year ahead?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Ogie on June 19, 2022, 10:19:31 PM
Very poor form of the Clough Ballacolla club not to fulfill either club semi finals this weekend, hiding behind 'player welfare'
All of the other clubs with dual players & Senior / premier intermediate/ intermediate teams all able to fulfill their fixtures
Complete disrespect to the competition & other Laois Gaa clubs
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on June 19, 2022, 10:40:30 PM
Agree 100%
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Robbo on June 19, 2022, 11:51:51 PM
Very strange alrite. could they not have moved one of the games? Bit much to concede like that.

Can see why borris and Portlaois wouldn't be happy as opposition were too strong.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on June 23, 2022, 03:10:57 PM
First league final of the year tomorrow night Div 1 hurling league Camross v Rathdowney/Errill. Camross look to be going well in this league so far.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: redsetanta on June 24, 2022, 10:32:11 AM
I see you have to have bought tickets online to be able to go to the game. I don't like the way they are going with ticket sales. There is no outlet for people who might decide to go on the day and pay at the gate.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: marty34 on June 24, 2022, 11:12:15 AM
Quote from: redsetanta on June 24, 2022, 10:32:11 AM
I see you have to have bought tickets online to be able to go to the game. I don't like the way they are going with ticket sales. There is no outlet for people who might decide to go on the day and pay at the gate.

Seems to be the way things are going.

I get it in the inter-county scene at Croke Park etc  trying to judge the attendence etc. plus not really having to deal with county boards to the final but for the club scene it should be also cash at the gate.

Times are changing.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on June 24, 2022, 11:14:56 AM
Agree 100% and maybe everybody don't know how to access tickets online.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: clonadmad on June 24, 2022, 12:30:25 PM
Quote from: redsetanta on June 24, 2022, 10:32:11 AM
I see you have to have bought tickets online to be able to go to the game. I don't like the way they are going with ticket sales. There is no outlet for people who might decide to go on the day and pay at the gate.

There should be 4/5 hand held credit card scanners at every ground when there's a game on

No one wants to be a volunteer and have the responsibility of handling cash anymore
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Robbo on June 24, 2022, 01:28:38 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 24, 2022, 12:30:25 PM
Quote from: redsetanta on June 24, 2022, 10:32:11 AM
I see you have to have bought tickets online to be able to go to the game. I don't like the way they are going with ticket sales. There is no outlet for people who might decide to go on the day and pay at the gate.

There should be 4/5 hand held credit card scanners at every ground when there's a game on

No one wants to be a volunteer and have the responsibility of handling cash anymore

Great idea that.
Think County Board invested in a batch of ticket readers; card readers are cheaper now than ever before. Should be done straight away.

Think Camross will win the 1B Final. I think they'll give Abbeyleix a run for their money come championship.

Not as sure on tonight and won't make it in either. Have a feeling camross are going that bit better but rdowney have some serious players to bring in. Maybe camross to win this one but re to catch them later in the year.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on July 14, 2022, 09:54:51 AM
Senior hurling Cship starting tonight hard to see any upsets in the first round top 4 teams should all win.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Spiritof86 on July 16, 2022, 12:42:27 AM
Did Ollie Baker walk or was he just not up to it with The Harps ?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: burdizzo on July 16, 2022, 09:57:39 AM
The chat I heard is that he pulled out.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: TheGiantSquid on July 16, 2022, 11:31:25 PM
Favourites for the drop who are we thinking, Castletown looked awful vs a strong Ballacolla
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Helix. on July 17, 2022, 12:12:37 AM
Quote from: TheGiantSquid on July 16, 2022, 11:31:25 PM
Favourites for the drop who are we thinking, Castletown looked awful vs a strong Ballacolla

Ballinakill had their chances to win it so wouldn't have them as relegation favourites. A few dubious refereeing decisions at times. Borris Kilcotton were very poor. Castletown Rosenallis or Ballinakill if they get a few injuries. Castletown will surely get better over course of championship.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on July 17, 2022, 10:17:16 AM
Bkill were good. Borris with get a few back and will improve. Castletown were shocking at times but were down a good few first team players through injuries. Harps is the big game for them a win for either team will have them in a qfinal.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Ballybrittas Boy on July 26, 2022, 01:38:40 PM
Potential for 4 close games this weekend in the senior hurling. Hopefully some good quality hurling.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on July 26, 2022, 04:54:52 PM
Should be a few close games is right. My teams to win the weekend. Bkill. Ctown. Cbolla and Rdowney /Errill.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Spiritof86 on July 28, 2022, 04:47:37 PM
Going go with BKill , Castletown and the Harps a draw , Camross and Rath/Errill .
Potentially 4 close games . Wet weekend in store by all accounts .
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: The PRO on July 28, 2022, 05:45:22 PM
Far from an expert but I'll go with R/E, C/B, Ballinakill and The Harps.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Tintin84 on July 29, 2022, 11:11:59 AM
Rosenallis
Harps
Rathddowney Errill
Ballacolla
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on July 29, 2022, 02:13:33 PM
Lads for a bit of crack here's my teams to win there Cships this year. Junior B Rosenallis. Junior A park/Timahoe. Intermediate Cloughbolla. Senior B Abbeyleix and Senior Rdowney /Errill.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on July 29, 2022, 04:32:37 PM
Ballinakill
The Harps
Clough Ballacolla
Rathdowney Errill

Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Helix. on July 29, 2022, 05:55:11 PM
Ballinakill to win tonight if they play similar to Borris Kilcotton game. Whether playing consecutive weeks Rosenallis football and hurling will impact them remains to be seen.

*I stand corrected good win for Rosenallis tonight. Take Cha out of Ballinakill side and very limited. Wasted awful amount of opportunities tonight.

The Harps to beat Castletown.

Camross are due a big performance at some stage in the season whether it'll be tomorrow remains to be seen. I'll still tip Clough Ballacolla for tomorrow. Wouldn't be surprised if they meet again before the year is out.

Rathdowney Errill to beat Borris Kilcotton. Borris Kilcotton got away with a win vs Ballinakill if Rathdowney are on form should have enough.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Spiritof86 on July 29, 2022, 09:18:18 PM
Just saw the score . Fair play to Rosenaills . Lot to be admired as a dual Senior Club . Ballinakill could be in bother now .
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Robbo on July 29, 2022, 09:37:33 PM
Balnikill will finish bottom now. Missed there chance two weeks ago.

Think Boris will be a lot better but rathdowney should still win. Better backs this year I think.
Mark kavanagh is home I think. Has to make them favourites now.

Hard to call the other 2. Might be one draw.

Big win for clonasllee tonite over camross in prem Inter. Them or Ballyfin to top the group and avoid abbeyleiz in the semis.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on July 30, 2022, 09:12:01 PM
Good win for Rosenallis. Ctown in qfinal and will improve still a few lads to come back Harps in big bother. Cbolla looked excellent at times tonight. Rdowney/Errill had it all to easy borris short a few but they were poor tonight. Cbolla v Rdowney/Erill in the final would be a cracker. Any update on a county manager?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Robbo on July 31, 2022, 12:04:21 AM
Abbeyleix look like nailed on csrts for the prem inter accordinf to laoistoday.
Still think Ballyfin and rathdowny might have a chance.
Slieve blom for the drop I reckon.

Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Spiritof86 on August 25, 2022, 12:56:52 PM
The Harps By 5
Castletown By 2
Camross by 10
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Helix. on August 25, 2022, 01:00:32 PM
Quote from: Robbo on July 31, 2022, 12:04:21 AM
Abbeyleix look like nailed on csrts for the prem inter accordinf to laoistoday.
Still think Ballyfin and rathdowny might have a chance.
Slieve blom for the drop I reckon.

Ben Conroy gone to Australia will be a massive loss so will tip trumera to win that.

You'd imagine Abbeyleix will win it out. Ballyfin should have enough for Portlaoise this weekend.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: burdizzo on August 25, 2022, 01:14:37 PM
They reckon Slieve Bloom are going to get it very hard to keep going at all.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Tintin84 on August 25, 2022, 01:21:58 PM
Quote from: Spiritof86 on August 25, 2022, 12:56:52 PM
The Harps By 5
Castletown By 2
Camross by 10

Not a hope of Castletown beating Rosenallis, I'd even go as far as saying Rosenallis outside of R/E and Ballacolla is probably the next best team in the county some fine hurlers, I imagine them beating Castletown By 6/7/8 points.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Robbo on August 25, 2022, 01:32:28 PM
I think borris will beat camross.
Amazing how much they've been written off. With injuries and lads away they were always going to struggle in the group. Beat camross in the semi last year without breaking a sweat.

Rosenallis by 6.
Harps by 2 but Id be nervous enough for them if ballinkil start well.

Ballyfin by 3.
Camross prem int to beat rathdowney by 1.
Trumera will send SB down i think.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Spiritof86 on August 25, 2022, 02:31:03 PM
Can't see Borris beating Camross after what's been going on there the past week .
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on August 25, 2022, 03:07:45 PM
Senior games this weekend Rosenallis  hot favourites to beat Ctown but i have a feeling Ctown with a few lads back can win this one. Camross to beat  Borris /kcotton. Harps to beat Bkill by 1 or 2 points.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: LaoisAbu20 on August 25, 2022, 07:03:44 PM
Quote from: Tintin84 on August 25, 2022, 01:21:58 PM
Quote from: Spiritof86 on August 25, 2022, 12:56:52 PM
The Harps By 5
Castletown By 2
Camross by 10

Not a hope of Castletown beating Rosenallis, I'd even go as far as saying Rosenallis outside of R/E and Ballacolla is probably the next best team in the county some fine hurlers, I imagine them beating Castletown By 6/7/8 points.

Wish I had the same optimism for Rosenallis. Good team on paper, but struggling to get team lineup right. If Castletown run at them, they'll be there for the taking. Can't understand why they don't play Fiachra Fennell in the centre forward position, he's got great goal potential and can run for days. From the last match, it seems a waste to have Hartnett at corner back, he'd be a better shout around midfield. Think Rosenallis have potential but can see Castletown beating them.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Helix. on August 26, 2022, 10:00:42 PM
A win for The Harps tonight with last puck of the game. Bob's Bar will be hopping in Durrow tonight from the great escape!
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: town1980 on August 26, 2022, 10:27:36 PM
What is going on in borriskilcotton?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on August 26, 2022, 10:41:41 PM
Sunday at 3.30pm we should know what's going on in Borris/kcotton Camross  to win but it could be close.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 27, 2022, 10:01:44 AM
Two big games.
Barring the final it's probably going to be the most all round competitive weekend in the Laois SHC this year.
All 4 will fancy their chances.

Castletown v Rosenallis
You get the feeling that both of these could/should be better than they actually are showing. Particularly Castletown. Rosenallis in fairness have been hitting maximum capacity at times over the past couple of years. Probably less often this past 12 months.
Castletown have been woeful at times.
Hard to know what to put that down to.

On one hand the fact that Rosenallis attempt to slog it out with the big boys each time has to stand to them.
On the other hand, bar lying down to the Top 4 every time they meet them, Castletown actually have beaten everybody else in every encounter over the past few years. That's a strange one. Something is wrong there.
Which of the above matters most?
When it comes down to it (and it should be close) do Castletown actually believe they would keep it pucked out to Ballacolla in a semi final? Probably not. Rosenallis wouldn't be thinking like that.
Does that come into the equation this weekend? Hard to know!

Do Castletown have the cohesion and discipline to disrupt Rosenallis' game? I'm not so sure they do.
It's a pity, there is a bit of a team potentially coming together in Castletown if they can address their willingness to throw in the towel.
Rosenallis by 5
Referee could have a big bearing on this one. He can get quite excited!

Borris Kilcotton v Camross
Tricky one.
Does anybody really know what's happening in Borris Kilcotton? If things were as bad as some claim I don't think the management would still be there. It's in nobody's interest.
Camross created a crazy amount of scoring chances last day out but against a very generous opponent. BK know how to shore up at the back.
All points to a Camross win, but BK 6/4 is an attractive price.
Does anybody have any information re injuries etc?
They have always done well v Camross and there has to be some sort of reaction from within to all that is being said about them.
Sneaky feeling for BK by 3.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on August 27, 2022, 01:20:04 PM
Keyser size. I would be going for Camross and castletown in the qfinals both will be close i dont think Rosenallis have beating Ctown in league or Cship since they won the senior B. Rosenallis are a good outfit on the day. Ctown were down 6 lads for first round of Cship got a few back again Camross and I am hearing  they have a full squad for tomorrow. Best of luck to all 4 teams going to be a warm day for hurling. They
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Robbo on August 27, 2022, 10:17:08 PM
Two good games in portlaoise today.

Had a feeling camross prem intermediates would have a performance in them and had a good win. Clonasle have been a breathe of fresh air and will be worth favourites in the semi but I've a feeling camross have a kick in them.

Gutted for ballyfin. Portlasoie have improved with good strength in depth, subs made big difference. Ballyfins goal was lucky but didn't get to many more breaks, couple of questionable calls from the referee without looking for blame or excuses.

Still abbeyleix championship to lose.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: burdizzo on August 27, 2022, 10:45:51 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 27, 2022, 10:01:44 AM

Does anybody really know what's happening in Borris Kilcotton?


Just get the impression they're a club on the slide, a bit - not just at senior level, either. That's looking from the outside.

Of course, they could make an eejit of me tomorrow. But - I doubt it.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on August 27, 2022, 11:09:58 PM
Abbeyleix should have more than enough to win this championship. Hoping that they could have a serious run at Leinster as well.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 28, 2022, 10:37:06 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on August 27, 2022, 10:45:51 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 27, 2022, 10:01:44 AM

Does anybody really know what's happening in Borris Kilcotton?


Just get the impression they're a club on the slide, a bit - not just at senior level, either. That's looking from the outside.

Of course, they could make an eejit of me tomorrow. But - I doubt it.

Looking down the grades, the supply definitely isn't there to replace those who are advancing in years.
The internal managerial appointment perhaps seems to have magnified issues that were bubbling under the surface. A pity.
Presume there is no danger of a split?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: clonadmad on August 28, 2022, 03:53:31 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 28, 2022, 10:37:06 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on August 27, 2022, 10:45:51 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 27, 2022, 10:01:44 AM

Does anybody really know what's happening in Borris Kilcotton?


Just get the impression they're a club on the slide, a bit - not just at senior level, either. That's looking from the outside.

Of course, they could make an eejit of me tomorrow. But - I doubt it.

Looking down the grades, the supply definitely isn't there to replace those who are advancing in years.
The internal managerial appointment perhaps seems to have magnified issues that were bubbling under the surface. A pity.
Presume there is no danger of a split?

Wishful Thinking, right there
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 28, 2022, 04:50:22 PM
What part was wishful thinking? Are you on drugs?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Spiritof86 on August 28, 2022, 08:47:56 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on August 27, 2022, 10:45:51 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 27, 2022, 10:01:44 AM

Does anybody really know what's happening in Borris Kilcotton?

Not sure the whole story but situation escalated at training the other night with a number of players walking . Todays result was always on the cards.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: town1980 on August 28, 2022, 11:40:15 PM
How have abbeyleix no football team it baffles me why there with ballyroan even a junior team they would be competitive
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: burdizzo on August 28, 2022, 11:58:59 PM
As you know, Ballyroan-Abbey encompasses Abbeyleix for football. That is why.
Other than that - who cares?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Ballygowen on August 29, 2022, 08:48:25 AM
The teams that won Premier intermediate, Intermediate and Junior A last year all relegated this year.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: clonadmad on August 29, 2022, 08:58:56 AM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 28, 2022, 04:50:22 PM
What part was wishful thinking? Are you on drugs?

The bit about Borris Kilcotton breaking up

Are you delusional?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: clonadmad on August 29, 2022, 09:00:48 AM
Quote from: town1980 on August 28, 2022, 11:40:15 PM
How have abbeyleix no football team it baffles me why there with ballyroan even a junior team they would be competitive

Do you seriously not know the answer to that?

Mudderajaysis
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Helix. on August 29, 2022, 12:01:33 PM
Semi finals
Camross vs Rathdowney Errill
Clough Ballacolla vs Castletown

Camross seem to be improving and won't fear Rathdowney Errill the next day. Granted Borris Kilcotton were woeful yesterday from what I heard.

Clough Ballacolla should have enough for Castletown even though seem to have near a full strength squad.

Interesting stat over weekend that almost all winners from 2021 championship (with exception of Junior C) were relegated in 2022.

Ballinakill premier intermediate champions 2021. Relegated 2022
Trumera intermediate champions 2021. Relegated 2022
Ballypickas Junior A champions 2021. Relegated 2022
Borris Kilcotton 3rd team Junior B champions 2021. Relegated 2022.

Probably happened before but just an observation.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 29, 2022, 05:12:50 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on August 29, 2022, 08:58:56 AM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 28, 2022, 04:50:22 PM
What part was wishful thinking? Are you on drugs?

The bit about Borris Kilcotton breaking up

Are you delusional?

So to be clear, I'm wishing for Borris & Kilcotton to break up?
You are a very strange individual.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 29, 2022, 06:16:15 PM
Borris Kilcotton were worse than I thought was possible.
Very hard to understand how they could possibly be as lifeless as they were.
They are missing exceptional players, but Jesus they have more than that. There was w total air of acceptance about them yesterday.

Camross slick and moving well. But the last two outings will hardly prepare them for Rathdowney Erill?
Still, they are known for the quality of the practice matches they get. Interesting one ahead

Btw- I'm not advocating for any drastic moves in Knockaroo or Borris. It would be a regressive move for Laois hurling.

Castletown did the job in fairness to them in a poor game.  Rosenallis don't seem to know what way they want to play. They seem to be stuck in between a couple of different ways of playing. In fairness, trying to serve two masters is very very difficult. I don't think it's sustainable for a period of time.
I didn't think Castletown would sneak it, but they are definitely headed in the right direction. Their younger players look like they would hold their own with most. Encouraging.

Clough Ballacolla could do whatever they want in the semis.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: clonadmad on August 29, 2022, 09:48:50 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 29, 2022, 06:16:15 PM
Borris Kilcotton were worse than I thought was possible.
Very hard to understand how they could possibly be as lifeless as they were.
They are missing exceptional players, but Jesus they have more than that. There was w total air of acceptance about them yesterday.

Camross slick and moving well. But the last two outings will hardly prepare them for Rathdowney Erill?
Still, they are known for the quality of the practice matches they get. Interesting one ahead

Btw- I'm not advocating for any drastic moves in Knockaroo or Borris. It would be a regressive move for Laois hurling.

Castletown did the job in fairness to them in a poor game.  Rosenallis don't seem to know what way they want to play. They seem to be stuck in between a couple of different ways of playing. In fairness, trying to serve two masters is very very difficult. I don't think it's sustainable for a period of time.
I didn't think Castletown would sneak it, but they are definitely headed in the right direction. Their younger players look like they would hold their own with most. Encouraging.

Clough Ballacolla could do whatever they want in the semis.

And I'm the strange individual

Remarkable
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 29, 2022, 10:19:12 PM
That line was quite obviously in response to your message that seems to suggest I was "wishing" for them to end the amalgamation.
Could you clarify if you were suggesting that?


And yes, coming on here & pretending that you were from Clonad in order to stir shit when RPG was forming was indeed strange.
Keeping it going since is even stranger.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: clonadmad on August 30, 2022, 07:31:35 AM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 29, 2022, 10:19:12 PM
That line was quite obviously in response to your message that seems to suggest I was "wishing" for them to end the amalgamation.
Could you clarify if you were suggesting that?


And yes, coming on here & pretending that you were from Clonad in order to stir shit when RPG was forming was indeed strange.
Keeping it going since is even stranger.

One of the B/K lads make off with yer wife or girlfriend ?

You seem to be badly rattled

Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 30, 2022, 05:23:47 PM
Said it before, and I'll say it again.
A very very strange individual.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: clonadmad on August 30, 2022, 05:34:22 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 30, 2022, 05:23:47 PM
Said it before, and I'll say it again.
A very very strange individual.

Rent Free,Son
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Robbo on August 30, 2022, 06:00:41 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 29, 2022, 06:16:15 PM
Borris Kilcotton were worse than I thought was possible.
Very hard to understand how they could possibly be as lifeless as they were.
They are missing exceptional players, but Jesus they have more than that. There was w total air of acceptance about them yesterday.

Camross slick and moving well. But the last two outings will hardly prepare them for Rathdowney Erill?
Still, they are known for the quality of the practice matches they get. Interesting one ahead

Btw- I'm not advocating for any drastic moves in Knockaroo or Borris. It would be a regressive move for Laois hurling.

Castletown did the job in fairness to them in a poor game.  Rosenallis don't seem to know what way they want to play. They seem to be stuck in between a couple of different ways of playing. In fairness, trying to serve two masters is very very difficult. I don't think it's sustainable for a period of time.
I didn't think Castletown would sneak it, but they are definitely headed in the right direction. Their younger players look like they would hold their own with most. Encouraging.

Clough Ballacolla could do whatever they want in the semis.

Strangely, lack of competitive games could catch either of the 2 supposed favourites.

Rathdowney havent been tested at all really, interesting to see how they'll have managed the 5 week break with football and a few practice games. Camross will be licking their lips.
Then, ballacolla should have way to much for Castletowntoen but they'll be going into a final not really knowing what there form has been like.

Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on August 30, 2022, 06:12:36 PM
Good year for Ctown getting to a Sfinal very young team about 12 of the starting 15 under 25 and a few good minors from last year starting on there first year up senior. Cbolla look very strong all over the field do. Rdowney/Errill and Camross should be a fair battle.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: GAABoardMod5 on August 30, 2022, 06:50:31 PM
Reminder that posters feuding will get banned.

Until the end of the championship season at least.

So knock it off and DO NOT ENGAGE with each other...clonadman and Keyser Söze. 

Can't be much clearer...that means you both cannot even reply to each other in what might pass to be in a civil manner even.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: blueandwhite1 on September 06, 2022, 02:13:55 PM
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on August 30, 2022, 06:50:31 PM
Reminder that posters feuding will get banned.

Until the end of the championship season at least.

So knock it off and DO NOT ENGAGE with each other...clonadman and Keyser Söze. 

Can't be much clearer...that means you both cannot even reply to each other in what might pass to be in a civil manner even.

Was unaware that these boards were moderated until now. Good to see though!! You must be a busy person!!
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Spiritof86 on September 16, 2022, 01:02:32 PM
Can't see Castletown troubling C/B too much . If they are still within touching distance by half time
it would be definitely be encouraging . C/B by 12 .
Andrew Mortimer looks like a doubt for Camross after getting injured the football last week and he will be a loss if he doesn't play . I still think there is a potential upset on the cards here . R/E obvious favourites here and King and Paddy McCane seem to be back on there game . Camross will have something different to bring to the table this weekend by all accounts. Sneaky feeling they will snatch this.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on September 16, 2022, 03:35:31 PM
Rdowney and Cbolla to win. Rdowney and Camross to go down to the wire after a tough battle. Ctown to test Cbolla but Cbolla will have too much up front.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 17, 2022, 01:13:04 PM
Can't call Rathdowney Errill v Camross.
Will stew on it!

Castletown have a much stronger panel than they have had for a while. I think they were very short by the time their last game came around last year. That's surely a good sign and a sign of heading in the right direction.
Think this will be a mental hurdle for them. They aren't capable of winning the game in my opinion, but surely capable of a better performance than what had come very the last few encounters with the big teams.
Nothing to gain here for Clough Ballacolla, a stumbling win might be the best possible scenario for the champions to refocus for a final.

Abbeyleix & Clonaslee to reach the intermediate final.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Robbo on September 17, 2022, 10:15:15 PM
Not too impressive frm abbeyleix this evening but did enough. Phortlaoise had chances but we're wasteful and hit a few tame efforts at rowland. Needed all those to go in or over to have any chance. They'll still be worthy favourites but not as definite as many think

Clonaslee looked good at times and then let camross back in. I'm not sure they have anough in the midfield or halfforward line to win though. Don't think itll be a high scoring final.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 18, 2022, 11:21:20 AM
In fairness it's kind of lose-lose for the relegated team. Almost every year they have stumbled along & bar The Harps & Portlaoise have come straight back every time.
It's that sort of grade.
Playing decent teams.
You are seen as beatable.
Motivation levels aren't what they should be.
Tricky one.

Rathdowney Errill v Camross
Still tricky.
Camross always more than the sum of their parts. But those parts alone are pretty impressive now. Some very dangerous forwards, some very cute backs.
Lots of industry thrown into the mix.
Camross scored 4-26 and 3-21 v the weaker sides in their group.
Only managed 0-15 v Clough Ballacolla, albeit in bad weather.

Rathdowney Erill posted 5-22, 2-26 and 2-23 against teams at least as good as the two weaker in Camross' group.

I almost always tip RE , and they let me down at some stage most years. It could be here.
One thing that sways me is the damage Ryan Mullaney was allowed cause when Camross played Castletown.
This was in a game when his 5 forward companions made very little inroads.
They won't have the luxury of having to worry about 1 man today.
RE by 5.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on September 19, 2022, 09:44:29 AM
2 good games yesterday Ctown improving big time and we're well in the game until the Ref decided to give everything to Cbolla best team won but with the help of the ref. Cbolla corner forward stuck the the Ctown player in the face then fell down himself pretending he was hit mean act. Camross got over the line with hard work Rdowney to me lost this on the line leaving 2 top players in reserved for too long.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Spiritof86 on September 19, 2022, 06:11:23 PM
Camross always had that in them yesterday. All singing off the one hymn sheet up there now .
Castletown use of Ryan Mulleaney was interesting and didn't really work out particularly in the second half . In fairness to them though they rattled C/B in the first half . Young team and will come again .
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on September 28, 2022, 11:14:34 AM
County hurling finals Sunday what's yer views. Cbolla and Aleix one would think. But Camross will be hard to beat.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: ottoman on September 28, 2022, 12:28:47 PM
Quote from: Laois man on September 28, 2022, 11:14:34 AM
County hurling finals Sunday what's yer views. Cbolla and Aleix one would think. But Camross will be hard to beat.

Abbeyleix to win and Camorss to cause an upset. CB are in a county final without really getting out of 2nd gear and its very hard to just turn it on when required after a summer like that. That semi final win will stand to Camross no end.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on September 28, 2022, 12:42:59 PM
I don't believe Cbolla were in second gear in the Sfinal they got a good test until the Ref decided to give them every thing going in the second half.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: ottoman on September 28, 2022, 12:54:28 PM
Quote from: Laois man on September 28, 2022, 12:42:59 PM
I don't believe Cbolla were in second gear in the Sfinal they got a good test until the Ref decided to give them every thing going in the second half.

From what I seen they didn't look anywhere near the team they can be in the 1st half. Went up the level required in the 2nd and got the job done, they never looked in danger of losing that once the 2nd half got under way. I don't remember the ref doing anything outrageous that would have suggested the result going any other way way. They won by 10 odd points pulling up...Anyway Ill stick with what I said previously, Camross to cause an upset against a potentially flat Ballacolla.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on September 28, 2022, 01:12:15 PM
Nothing outrageous is right Cbolla were always going to win but a few handy frees made it a bit easier for them. I believe camross have a few injuries for Sunday.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: burdizzo on September 28, 2022, 02:28:19 PM
Zane?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on September 28, 2022, 04:38:37 PM
No
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 01, 2022, 08:09:36 PM
Is it a secret? Who is injured?

Camross impressed me against RE. But you'd have to wonder if RE had started with the 15 they finished with how it would have all gone.
But Camross are solid, well set up and typically very very tenacious. Their forwards and their level of tackling will be key here.

Will they allow the CB back 9 time and space to feed quality ball to their 6 up front.
Robbie Phelan causes havoc dropping deep and carrying.
Expect him to hit a few obstacles early on as he carries.

With any team on a run like CB are there is usually a day when things don't fall into place.
In truth they have been freewheeling this summer.
Fair enough Castletown threw the kitchen sink at them for 40 minutes but I think all present knew what the outcome was going to be.

I do think Camross will sneak this one. Their forward line is growing more & more dangerous over the last 18 months.
They are shaping into a decent outfit who will be around about county finals for a long time to come.

If Zane is right & plays the full 60 minutes Camross will win.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: From the Terrace on October 01, 2022, 11:19:08 PM
Ballacolla to win the 3 a row, I'm sure camross not happy with the refereeing appointment.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on October 02, 2022, 07:58:30 AM
Why would Camross not be happy with the Ref??
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: georgedoylesrightleg on October 02, 2022, 08:09:11 AM
Quote from: Laois man on October 02, 2022, 07:58:30 AM
Why would Camross not be happy with the Ref??
auld wounds some times dont close fully
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on October 02, 2022, 09:16:23 AM
Some silly statement.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 02, 2022, 09:31:31 AM
After the way last years final finished, I'd imagine Ballacolla would have preferred the same ref again!

Interesting that Camross/Castletown rivalry mentioned.
But often in these cases people go out of their way to show they aren't taking sides!
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Helix. on October 02, 2022, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 02, 2022, 09:31:31 AM
After the way last years final finished, I'd imagine Ballacolla would have preferred the same ref again!

Interesting that Camross/Castletown rivalry mentioned.
But often in these cases people go out of their way to show they aren't taking sides!

Should be the makings of a good game regardless of referee. Both teams a point to prove and expect a big crowd in OMP. Will be watching on stream abroad and expect Clough Ballacolla to win by 5-6 points. A good win for their 2nd team last night in Intermediate final. Expect them to stay at premier intermediate for few years to come.

Abbeyleix to win by similar amount vs Clonaslee to bounce straight back up.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 02, 2022, 10:15:15 AM
Definitely agree that CB's 2nd team will stay up at PIHC.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Spiritof86 on October 02, 2022, 11:30:41 AM
Should be a decent final . Indications are Zane is carrying a injury but will be starting . Camross are set up extremely well and still I don't think C/B have reached the heights of previous years. The conversation about the referee appointment is irrelevant.
Camross to sneak it .
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 02, 2022, 04:17:45 PM
16 mins gone.
0-7 to 0-4
But I think goals are going to come for Camross based on what's happening so far!
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Helix. on October 02, 2022, 04:35:50 PM
Looks like game over at half time.

Clough Ballacolla purple patch last 7-8 minutes has done well. Great save from Dunne in goals.

Camross will need a fast start in 2nd half to have any sort of chance!
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 02, 2022, 04:42:12 PM
Looks that way.
It certainly didn't go how I thought it would.
CB goal chance came out of nowhere.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Helix. on October 02, 2022, 05:42:34 PM
A very comfortable win for Clough Ballacolla by all accounts. Never looked like losing all the way through.

Seemed to get all their match ups right, particularly in the backs; bringing back in Willie Hyland and Tom Delaney were a mastertroke, nullified ball winners for Camross on their puckouts. Darren Maher was very good in defence.

That said Camross were poor overall, never got going and reliant on frees to keep tipping over.

Clough Ballacolla will be hoping to at least make another Leinster club final if they keep injury free.
Good week for them across winning intermediate last night and now this.

As Meatloaf once said "Two out of three ain't bad"  8)
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: burdizzo on October 02, 2022, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 02, 2022, 04:42:12 PM
Looks that way.
It certainly didn't go how I thought it would.
CB goal chance came out of nowhere.

It was a nice little dink through from young Cillian Dunne, though! Camross should have had a couple of goals, at least - Collier missing the best of the chances. But Ballacolla were good enough at dragging down the runners, as well! Dunphy on absolute fire in the first half, and Picky and Darren Maher not too bad, either.

Camross gave a bit of timber just after conceding that goal, but it was pointless really, as they were very much outclassed. Fair play to Ballacolla - two significant adult titles this year, and still in the minor final to play. It's not all that long ago they were a mediocre club, but they've left nearly everyone else well behind. And as for these amalgamations? Borris-Kilcotton, Colt-Shanahoe, Park-Timahoe? Not really doing the business these days, either, eh? I don't really think it's the answer.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Spiritof86 on October 02, 2022, 08:56:33 PM
C/B by far the deserving winners . Camross never got going and match was realistically over by half time . Starting Hyland and the positioning of him definitely was a factor throughout. Hope Willie Dunphy gives the county one more craic this year .
Hope C/B give Leinster a good rattle . A bit of a wait now until they meet the Dublin champions on November 13th I believe.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laoisred on October 03, 2022, 09:55:04 AM
Isn't Clough-Ballacolla an amalgamation? They don't seem to be doing too bad to me....
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: clonadmad on October 03, 2022, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 02, 2022, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 02, 2022, 04:42:12 PM
Looks that way.
It certainly didn't go how I thought it would.
CB goal chance came out of nowhere.

It was a nice little dink through from young Cillian Dunne, though! Camross should have had a couple of goals, at least - Collier missing the best of the chances. But Ballacolla were good enough at dragging down the runners, as well! Dunphy on absolute fire in the first half, and Picky and Darren Maher not too bad, either.

Camross gave a bit of timber just after conceding that goal, but it was pointless really, as they were very much outclassed. Fair play to Ballacolla - two significant adult titles this year, and still in the minor final to play. It's not all that long ago they were a mediocre club, but they've left nearly everyone else well behind. And as for these amalgamations? Borris-Kilcotton, Colt-Shanahoe, Park-Timahoe? Not really doing the business these days, either, eh? I don't really think it's the answer.

Clough Ballacolla are an amalgamation similar to those clubs you highlighted as are Rathdowney Errill
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: ottoman on October 03, 2022, 11:15:40 AM
I'm fairly sure Clough or Ballacolla were never separate clubs and have always hurled together. They have hurled under different names throughout their life time alright. From memory they have been called Ballygeehan, St Canices, Ballacolla and then Clough Ballacolla. But always represent and drew their players from the parash of Aghaboe.

On the topic of Ballacolla. Myself growing up and hurling for Portlaoise in the 90's, if you had to tell me then that Clough Ballacolla would be winning 3 in a row within the next 25 years I'd have sent you to get checked out. I don't know what started the revival but surely it could be seen as inspiration to other clubs  who have always sat on the periphery that it can be achieved.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: SCFC on October 03, 2022, 11:16:06 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on October 03, 2022, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 02, 2022, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 02, 2022, 04:42:12 PM
Looks that way.
It certainly didn't go how I thought it would.
CB goal chance came out of nowhere.

It was a nice little dink through from young Cillian Dunne, though! Camross should have had a couple of goals, at least - Collier missing the best of the chances. But Ballacolla were good enough at dragging down the runners, as well! Dunphy on absolute fire in the first half, and Picky and Darren Maher not too bad, either.

Camross gave a bit of timber just after conceding that goal, but it was pointless really, as they were very much outclassed. Fair play to Ballacolla - two significant adult titles this year, and still in the minor final to play. It's not all that long ago they were a mediocre club, but they've left nearly everyone else well behind. And as for these amalgamations? Borris-Kilcotton, Colt-Shanahoe, Park-Timahoe? Not really doing the business these days, either, eh? I don't really think it's the answer.

Clough Ballacolla are an amalgamation similar to those clubs you highlighted as are Rathdowney Errill
What clubs amalgamated to form Clough Ballacolla? I always thought it was just a name change rather than an amalgamation? But I'd be far from an expert.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: redsetanta on October 03, 2022, 11:31:20 AM
Fair play to CB. A great achievement to do 3 in a row.

They seem to have a good blend of older, experienced players and young players stepping up to senior.

From what I've heard and read they are probably a better team this year so it would be great if they got a good run in Leinster. When Willie Dunphy is talking about it in his post match interview you know they will be giving it a right go again.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: burdizzo on October 03, 2022, 11:55:02 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on October 03, 2022, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 02, 2022, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 02, 2022, 04:42:12 PM
Looks that way.
It certainly didn't go how I thought it would.
CB goal chance came out of nowhere.

It was a nice little dink through from young Cillian Dunne, though! Camross should have had a couple of goals, at least - Collier missing the best of the chances. But Ballacolla were good enough at dragging down the runners, as well! Dunphy on absolute fire in the first half, and Picky and Darren Maher not too bad, either.

Camross gave a bit of timber just after conceding that goal, but it was pointless really, as they were very much outclassed. Fair play to Ballacolla - two significant adult titles this year, and still in the minor final to play. It's not all that long ago they were a mediocre club, but they've left nearly everyone else well behind. And as for these amalgamations? Borris-Kilcotton, Colt-Shanahoe, Park-Timahoe? Not really doing the business these days, either, eh? I don't really think it's the answer.

Clough Ballacolla are an amalgamation similar to those clubs you highlighted as are Rathdowney Errill

As other posters have pointed out, Clough-Ballacolla is not an amalgamation. Of course, Rathdowney-Errill is one that has been successful, but looking at all the others I mentioned (and you could also cite Harps, even Tinnahinch as ultimately unsuccessful join-ups), you could still say C/B is a good example of how to improve a club's lot without the 'quick-fix' of amalgamating. Another example would be Rosenalis, of course.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: clonadmad on October 03, 2022, 12:30:03 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 03, 2022, 11:55:02 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on October 03, 2022, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 02, 2022, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 02, 2022, 04:42:12 PM
Looks that way.
It certainly didn't go how I thought it would.
CB goal chance came out of nowhere.

It was a nice little dink through from young Cillian Dunne, though! Camross should have had a couple of goals, at least - Collier missing the best of the chances. But Ballacolla were good enough at dragging down the runners, as well! Dunphy on absolute fire in the first half, and Picky and Darren Maher not too bad, either.

Camross gave a bit of timber just after conceding that goal, but it was pointless really, as they were very much outclassed. Fair play to Ballacolla - two significant adult titles this year, and still in the minor final to play. It's not all that long ago they were a mediocre club, but they've left nearly everyone else well behind. And as for these amalgamations? Borris-Kilcotton, Colt-Shanahoe, Park-Timahoe? Not really doing the business these days, either, eh? I don't really think it's the answer.

Clough Ballacolla are an amalgamation similar to those clubs you highlighted as are Rathdowney Errill

As other posters have pointed out, Clough-Ballacolla is not an amalgamation. Of course, Rathdowney-Errill is one that has been successful, but looking at all the others I mentioned (and you could also cite Harps, even Tinnahinch as ultimately unsuccessful join-ups), you could still say C/B is a good example of how to improve a club's lot without the 'quick-fix' of amalgamating. Another example would be Rosenalis, of course.

The Harps can't be described as a quick fix amalgamation either

It's one thing singling out bed hopping amalgamations

It's another thing singling out stable well established clubs like R/E,the harps etc to suit whatever agenda you have in your own head
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on October 03, 2022, 12:35:20 PM
Jesus the Harps are together 38years and do never won a senior final have won a lot of minors and underage titles.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: burdizzo on October 03, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on October 03, 2022, 12:30:03 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 03, 2022, 11:55:02 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on October 03, 2022, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 02, 2022, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 02, 2022, 04:42:12 PM
Looks that way.
It certainly didn't go how I thought it would.
CB goal chance came out of nowhere.

It was a nice little dink through from young Cillian Dunne, though! Camross should have had a couple of goals, at least - Collier missing the best of the chances. But Ballacolla were good enough at dragging down the runners, as well! Dunphy on absolute fire in the first half, and Picky and Darren Maher not too bad, either.

Camross gave a bit of timber just after conceding that goal, but it was pointless really, as they were very much outclassed. Fair play to Ballacolla - two significant adult titles this year, and still in the minor final to play. It's not all that long ago they were a mediocre club, but they've left nearly everyone else well behind. And as for these amalgamations? Borris-Kilcotton, Colt-Shanahoe, Park-Timahoe? Not really doing the business these days, either, eh? I don't really think it's the answer.

Clough Ballacolla are an amalgamation similar to those clubs you highlighted as are Rathdowney Errill

As other posters have pointed out, Clough-Ballacolla is not an amalgamation. Of course, Rathdowney-Errill is one that has been successful, but looking at all the others I mentioned (and you could also cite Harps, even Tinnahinch as ultimately unsuccessful join-ups), you could still say C/B is a good example of how to improve a club's lot without the 'quick-fix' of amalgamating. Another example would be Rosenalis, of course.

The Harps can't be described as a quick fix amalgamation either

It's one thing singling out bed hopping amalgamations

It's another thing singling out stable well established clubs like R/E,the harps etc to suit whatever agenda you have in your own head

Jaysus, you're terrible touchy altogether! Granted The Harps are long-established, but they never won a county title, either.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: clonadmad on October 03, 2022, 02:36:15 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 03, 2022, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on October 03, 2022, 12:30:03 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 03, 2022, 11:55:02 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on October 03, 2022, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 02, 2022, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 02, 2022, 04:42:12 PM
Looks that way.
It certainly didn't go how I thought it would.
CB goal chance came out of nowhere.



It was a nice little dink through from young Cillian Dunne, though! Camross should have had a couple of goals, at least - Collier missing the best of the chances. But Ballacolla were good enough at dragging down the runners, as well! Dunphy on absolute fire in the first half, and Picky and Darren Maher not too bad, either.

Camross gave a bit of timber just after conceding that goal, but it was pointless really, as they were very much outclassed. Fair play to Ballacolla - two significant adult titles this year, and still in the minor final to play. It's not all that long ago they were a mediocre club, but they've left nearly everyone else well behind. And as for these amalgamations? Borris-Kilcotton, Colt-Shanahoe, Park-Timahoe? Not really doing the business these days, either, eh? I don't really think it's the answer.

Clough Ballacolla are an amalgamation similar to those clubs you highlighted as are Rathdowney Errill

As other posters have pointed out, Clough-Ballacolla is not an amalgamation. Of course, Rathdowney-Errill is one that has been successful, but looking at all the others I mentioned (and you could also cite Harps, even Tinnahinch as ultimately unsuccessful join-ups), you could still say C/B is a good example of how to improve a club's lot without the 'quick-fix' of amalgamating. Another example would be Rosenalis, of course.

The Harps can't be described as a quick fix amalgamation either

It's one thing singling out bed hopping amalgamations

It's another thing singling out stable well established clubs like R/E,the harps etc to suit whatever agenda you have in your own head

Jaysus, you're terrible touchy altogether! Granted The Harps are long-established, but they never won a county title, either.

And yet amalgamated clubs such as R/E and B/K have won county senior titles

What exactly is your point because you aren't making much of a cogent argument
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Spiritof86 on October 03, 2022, 02:52:03 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 02, 2022, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 02, 2022, 04:42:12 PM
Looks that way.
It certainly didn't go how I thought it would.
CB goal chance came out of nowhere.

It was a nice little dink through from young Cillian Dunne, though! Camross should have had a couple of goals, at least - Collier missing the best of the chances. But Ballacolla were good enough at dragging down the runners, as well! Dunphy on absolute fire in the first half, and Picky and Darren Maher not too bad, either.

Camross gave a bit of timber just after conceding that goal, but it was pointless really, as they were very much outclassed. Fair play to Ballacolla - two significant adult titles this year, and still in the minor final to play. It's not all that long ago they were a mediocre club, but they've left nearly everyone else well behind. And as for these amalgamations? Borris-Kilcotton, Colt-Shanahoe, Park-Timahoe? Not really doing the business these days, either, eh? I don't really think it's the answer.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Park/Timahoe reach the Junior A and Junior C finals this year and got promoted a few years ago to intermediate. They must be doing somethings right . We can pick at straws all day long but the proof is there . Rathdowney/Erill and B/K have won county titles with this process . It doesn't happen overnight and takes a bit of work from both clubs to make it happen .
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on October 03, 2022, 02:58:26 PM
Should be parish rule in Laois anyway. Down the line with fellas going aboard and with work commitments clubs will have to join up if you haven't the number you can't field a team. How many clubs in Laois have no juvenile set up?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: burdizzo on October 03, 2022, 03:51:39 PM
Quote from: Spiritof86 on October 03, 2022, 02:52:03 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 02, 2022, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 02, 2022, 04:42:12 PM
Looks that way.
It certainly didn't go how I thought it would.
CB goal chance came out of nowhere.

It was a nice little dink through from young Cillian Dunne, though! Camross should have had a couple of goals, at least - Collier missing the best of the chances. But Ballacolla were good enough at dragging down the runners, as well! Dunphy on absolute fire in the first half, and Picky and Darren Maher not too bad, either.

Camross gave a bit of timber just after conceding that goal, but it was pointless really, as they were very much outclassed. Fair play to Ballacolla - two significant adult titles this year, and still in the minor final to play. It's not all that long ago they were a mediocre club, but they've left nearly everyone else well behind. And as for these amalgamations? Borris-Kilcotton, Colt-Shanahoe, Park-Timahoe? Not really doing the business these days, either, eh? I don't really think it's the answer.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Park/Timahoe reach the Junior A and Junior C finals this year and got promoted a few years ago to intermediate. They must be doing somethings right . We can pick at straws all day long but the proof is there . Rathdowney/Erill and B/K have won county titles with this process . It doesn't happen overnight and takes a bit of work from both clubs to make it happen .

I'd say Park-Timahoe would consider merely reaching the Junior A final a big disappointment for them. For the amalgamation to be considered a succes, they'd want to be competing for Intermediate titles, at least. And, in fairness to them, they DO have a decent underage set-up.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Spiritof86 on October 03, 2022, 05:29:23 PM
Agreed . Was at a league match late summer over there. Lot of really good work been done at Park/Timahoe from underage upwards .
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on October 03, 2022, 06:15:25 PM
Like most things amalgamations must be considered  and judged on a case by case basis. Saying 'amalgamations don't work' or 'amalgamations are the only way' are both equally simplistic and inaccurate.

If an area has the resources (population base, feeder schools) to have a healthy club when run properly then no amalgamation is needed. However if an area is competing at a low level and struggling to field teams even when the effort level is good then it should be considered. Amalgamations like RE and BK have united the rural and urban parts of those areas. Both Errill and Kilcotton have huge history of hurling and great ppl involved but low populations. I think the likes of BK and RE wouldn't be considered big clubs in places like Tipp or Galway.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Robbo on October 03, 2022, 06:36:33 PM
Poor final by all accounts. Makes it a poor cship in honesty. Hopefully ballacolla can get another scalp in leinster.

It was mentioned on Midlands radio yesterday that Camross will be entering 5 adult teams next year. That's incredible if true.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 03, 2022, 07:29:17 PM
CB away to Dublin champions in 1st round of Leinster. Very difficult to see them having a similar run to last season and they won't be underestimated this time around. Wish them the best of luck though.

I fancy Abbeyleix to have a real run at the Leinster intermediate though. They've a good draw and have a pathway through to the final as I think they avoid KK/Dublin/Wexford side. Hopefully they give a good account of themselves at Senior next year as well.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: ottoman on October 03, 2022, 07:58:21 PM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 03, 2022, 07:29:17 PM
CB away to Dublin champions in 1st round of Leinster. Very difficult to see them having a similar run to last season and they won't be underestimated this time around. Wish them the best of luck though.

I fancy Abbeyleix to have a real run at the Leinster intermediate though. They've a good draw and have a pathway through to the final as I think they avoid KK/Dublin/Wexford side. Hopefully they give a good account of themselves at Senior next year as well.

Just looked at the fixtures there, looks like CB will have the harder run in Leinster again like last year. Dublin champs, Wexford champs and you assume BHS would be awaiting them in the final if they were to get through those ties. It would be very hard to take all those scalps again this year.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: clonadmad on October 03, 2022, 10:23:53 PM
Quote from: Spiritof86 on October 03, 2022, 05:29:23 PM
Agreed . Was at a league match late summer over there. Lot of really good work been done at Park/Timahoe from underage upwards .

PRT are making slow but steady progress
Beaten in Junior A Final
Beaten in Junior c Final

At underage
Beaten in u13 A1 final
In u15 A1 final
In minor B final

They need to push on to intermediate in the next year or 2 but they have a steady stream of young lads coming in

The Harps are a head scratcher

Why the best juvenile club of the last 5-10 years can't translate it's success at juvenile into being at least a permanent fixture at senior

Congratulations to C/B they have shown the way,they are now enjoying the fruits of 20 years of hard labour
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Heshs Umpire on October 05, 2022, 03:38:53 PM
Quote from: ottoman on October 03, 2022, 07:58:21 PM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 03, 2022, 07:29:17 PM
CB away to Dublin champions in 1st round of Leinster. Very difficult to see them having a similar run to last season and they won't be underestimated this time around. Wish them the best of luck though.

I fancy Abbeyleix to have a real run at the Leinster intermediate though. They've a good draw and have a pathway through to the final as I think they avoid KK/Dublin/Wexford side. Hopefully they give a good account of themselves at Senior next year as well.

Just looked at the fixtures there, looks like CB will have the harder run in Leinster again like last year. Dublin champs, Wexford champs and you assume BHS would be awaiting them in the final if they were to get through those ties. It would be very hard to take all those scalps again this year.
Very tough draw for CB alright. But they are becoming a very experienced outfit and I think they'll give the Dublin champs plenty of it.
Just hard to see Leinster not being won by Kilkenny champions.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois Rising on October 05, 2022, 04:05:13 PM
A lot of the Harps underage success of the last 5-10 years you could argue has been built on quantity of good players as opposed to maybe been driven by 2/3 exceptional players on any of those successful teams.  Therefore a lot of those lads stepping up to senior are not necessarily going to improve or add greatly to their senior team. What you need from your underage teams are one or two 'exceptional' players coming through every year that will go straight in and improve the senior team that is currently there. A lot of what the Harps have brought through are of a similar standard to what is maybe already there-hence they don't appear necessarily to be making any improvement despite their great efforts. 


I admire what the Harps are doing-they get great numbers and keep their players interested and involved. It will hopefully pay off for them if they continue on the path that they are.

Quote from: clonadmad on October 03, 2022, 10:23:53 PM
Quote from: Spiritof86 on October 03, 2022, 05:29:23 PM
Agreed . Was at a league match late summer over there. Lot of really good work been done at Park/Timahoe from underage upwards .

PRT are making slow but steady progress
Beaten in Junior A Final
Beaten in Junior c Final

At underage
Beaten in u13 A1 final
In u15 A1 final
In minor B final

They need to push on to intermediate in the next year or 2 but they have a steady stream of young lads coming in

The Harps are a head scratcher

Why the best juvenile club of the last 5-10 years can't translate it's success at juvenile into being at least a permanent fixture at senior

Congratulations to C/B they have shown the way,they are now enjoying the fruits of 20 years of hard labour
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: burdizzo on October 05, 2022, 04:22:19 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on October 03, 2022, 10:23:53 PM
Quote from: Spiritof86 on October 03, 2022, 05:29:23 PM
Agreed . Was at a league match late summer over there. Lot of really good work been done at Park/Timahoe from underage upwards .

PRT are making slow but steady progress
Beaten in Junior A Final
Beaten in Junior c Final

At underage
Beaten in u13 A1 final
In u15 A1 final
In minor B final

They need to push on to intermediate in the next year or 2 but they have a steady stream of young lads coming in

The Harps are a head scratcher

Why the best juvenile club of the last 5-10 years can't translate it's success at juvenile into being at least a permanent fixture at senior

Congratulations to C/B they have shown the way,they are now enjoying the fruits of 20 years of hard labour

Let's face it - getting beaten in two Junior finals is a serious backward step for PRT. They were relegated from Intermediate last year, and to not be able to make the step back up straight away must be a worry for them. Plus, as an amalgamation, they probably have fewer hurlers now than when they were two separete clubs? Maybe you could confirm that, Clonadmad?! And with football going well for Ratheniska, that clearly takes precedence - so much so, I think, that it's almost impossible to play both for a committed senior footballer.

Yes, the underage is in decent shape - as it generally is in Ratheniska - but this never seems to translate to the adult hurling team. Why is that? Drawing from too much of a football area?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on October 05, 2022, 04:41:55 PM
Looking at the Leinster Express team of the year no Darren Maher and he the best full back in Laois this year no Cillian Dunne or Mossy keyes???
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: clonadmad on October 05, 2022, 06:22:53 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 05, 2022, 04:22:19 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on October 03, 2022, 10:23:53 PM
Quote from: Spiritof86 on October 03, 2022, 05:29:23 PM
Agreed . Was at a league match late summer over there. Lot of really good work been done at Park/Timahoe from underage upwards .

PRT are making slow but steady progress
Beaten in Junior A Final
Beaten in Junior c Final

At underage
Beaten in u13 A1 final
In u15 A1 final
In minor B final

They need to push on to intermediate in the next year or 2 but they have a steady stream of young lads coming in

The Harps are a head scratcher

Why the best juvenile club of the last 5-10 years can't translate it's success at juvenile into being at least a permanent fixture at senior

Congratulations to C/B they have shown the way,they are now enjoying the fruits of 20 years of hard labour

Let's face it - getting beaten in two Junior finals is a serious backward step for PRT. They were relegated from Intermediate last year, and to not be able to make the step back up straight away must be a worry for them. Plus, as an amalgamation, they probably have fewer hurlers now than when they were two separete clubs? Maybe you could confirm that, Clonadmad?! And with football going well for Ratheniska, that clearly takes precedence - so much so, I think, that it's almost impossible to play both for a committed senior footballer.

Yes, the underage is in decent shape - as it generally is in Ratheniska - but this never seems to translate to the adult hurling team. Why is that? Drawing from too much of a football area?

All of that is fair comment I'd say

I'm nearly certain this year they had a second adult hurling team where for the past few years they had just the one

But I'm open to correction
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: burdizzo on October 09, 2022, 09:45:59 PM
Yes, PRT had two adult teams this year. They did enter two last year, but were stuck for numbers come the championship, as far as I recall. However, when they were individual clubs, they'd certainly have had a team each, and most years one or other - if not both - would have entered two teams. I mean, as an amalgamation they really shouldn't be struggling to put out two teams, and probably should have scope for a third. But in reality, the amalgamation just freed up a lot of lads to concentrate solely on the football. Sadly.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Spiritof1915 on October 20, 2022, 02:17:44 PM
Lot of senior clubs looking for new managers in 2023.
I believe R/E parted company with Jimmy dunne last night
B/K, The Harps, clough/ballacolla in the market.. Possibly Rosenallis and Camross too.
Should be interesting
.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on November 22, 2022, 09:14:38 PM
Any update on new managers for hurling clubs for the new year?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on December 03, 2022, 01:05:53 PM
Any update on new club managers in the county yet? I hear Anthony Coffey gone back to Trumrea and Niall Holmes has taking on Mrath.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Ogie on December 04, 2022, 04:19:39 PM
I don't agree with Senior Club teams spending a fortune on outside managers, but poor intermediate & Junior Clubs paying someone to come in and coach a team is crazy.

Ballacolla hoping to hold onto Laffan if they can agree on someone to hold the ropes til he comes back after Tipp are out
David Cuddy looking for reappointment in Camross but facing some internal competition, agm this weekend
Rathdowney Errill have appointed last years Lisdowney manager Martin Power, looking for a coach to work with him
Borris Kilcotton should be ratifying a former Inter County manager next week
Castletown staying the same
Abbeyleix staying the same
Harps on the hunt in Kilkenny circles 
Rosenallis on the hunt




Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on December 04, 2022, 05:14:39 PM
I hear Aleix are changing management. Is borris/kcotton staying within the county??
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Robbo on December 05, 2022, 03:37:06 PM
Abbeylex changing but staying internal I heard.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on December 06, 2022, 01:27:25 PM
So hurling managers so far. Camross. David Cuddy. Rdowney/Errill Martin Power. Ctown David Cuddy. Aleix?. Rosenallis?. Borris /kcotton? Bkill? Cbolla?. I hear 2 Cbolla players gone to Australia this morning best of luck to both.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois Rising on December 10, 2022, 11:12:10 PM
Seeing Bray Emmets lame the Leinster Intermediate title today highlights what an opportunity Abbeyleix failed to capitalise on this year. Chance of Al-Ireland success in Croker was there for them this year and they really left it behind. Fair play to Bray Emmets on their success. Great to see clubs/counties outside of the traditional hurling elite winning titles at provincial level.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Lost soul 2 on December 13, 2022, 01:34:52 PM
Is declan laffan gone from ballacolla,had a great stint if true.rumour rigney going with borris??
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on December 13, 2022, 02:40:27 PM
Rigney not going to borris i was told. Laffan gone after 3 great years with Cbolla.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Spiritof1915 on December 29, 2022, 11:22:41 AM
Hearing Jimmy dunne is in consideration for BK job
Harps gone with Alan Guilfoyle and Ross Young.
Are abbeyleix staying with Derek Dunne
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on December 29, 2022, 12:15:40 PM
I am hearing. Camross. David Cuddy. Rdowney/Errill. Martin power he's a waterford man. Ctown David Cuddy. Aleix pj peacock. Bk a fella from the fenians in kkenny. Harps? Rosenallis? Cbolla? Bkill?.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Ogie on January 04, 2023, 07:39:15 PM
Latest Rumour Mill -

Ballacolla - Still Searching after Laffins departure, names of Dj Carey, Eamonn Corcoran ( JK Brackens ) Mick Fennelly all being tried, should be an attractive position to fill

Camross - David Cuddy staying on, with new coach on board

Borris Kilcotton - Pj Delaney from Johnstown, previous St Mullins Manager with a Delahunty fella coaching from Kilkenny

Rathdowney Errill - Martin Power Kilkenny, coach to be confirmed 

Castletown - David Cuddy / John Sullivan staying on

The Harps - Alan Guilfoyle, Harps Club man took over last year when Ollie Baker left with Ross Young
doing the S&C 

Rosenallis - Gone back to Roscrea man Dan Kilmartin who managed them before I believe

Abbeyleix- Pj Peacock taking over from Derek Dunne

Ballinakill - One of their own, former Ballyfin football manager Killian Fitzpatrick

Portlaoise - Tommy Fitzgerald, great move by Portlaoise getting Tommy home from St Thomas





Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on January 04, 2023, 10:03:41 PM
Nice to see Tommy back with plaois but on the hurling front they seem to be struggling big time.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2022
Post by: Laois man on January 07, 2023, 03:18:45 PM
Any clubs getting in any transfers this year I wonder or anyone moving to another club?