UK General Election 2017

Started by Eamonnca1, April 18, 2017, 07:09:42 PM

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Rossfan

Shows what an undemocratic system the Brits are using.
Rumours of Lib Dems talking to Mayhem??
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: Rossfan on June 15, 2017, 07:20:57 PM
Shows what an undemocratic system the Brits are using.
Rumours of Lib Dems talking to Mayhem??

They moved this week to oust Farron and are now in their own mayhem with a number of factions fighting for control of the party.

Eamonnca1

 Interesting piece here that sets out to explain the apparently lower quality of British political leaders of late:

QuoteIT HAS been impossible to watch the general election without being haunted by a single question-cum-exclamation: surely Britain can do better than this? The best performer in the campaign, Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, is a 68-year-old crypto-communist who has never run anything except his own mouth. Theresa May, the Tory leader, tried to make the election all about herself and then demonstrated that there wasn't much of a self to make it about. As for Tim Farron, the Liberal Democrats' leader, he looked more like a schoolboy playing the part of a politician in an end-of-term play than a potential prime minister.

Full article...


Eamonnca1


Owen Brannigan

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 15, 2017, 08:52:26 PM
And another that questions May's neutrality in dealing with the North:

http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21723445-negotiating-deal-northern-irelands-unionists-casts-doubt-british-governments

The Tories have never been neutral in dealing with N.Ireland, the DUP agreement will not make matters better or worse.

The GFA will not be affected as the Tories will claim that they continue to have no strategic interest in N.Ireland and hence neutral.

To suggest that the IRA or UDA/UVF will return to violence because of the DUP support for the Tories is nonsense and needs to be knocked back by some serious journalists.

OgraAnDun

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 15, 2017, 09:19:15 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 15, 2017, 08:52:26 PM
And another that questions May's neutrality in dealing with the North:

http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21723445-negotiating-deal-northern-irelands-unionists-casts-doubt-british-governments

The Tories have never been neutral in dealing with N.Ireland, the DUP agreement will not make matters better or worse.

The GFA will not be affected as the Tories will claim that they continue to have no strategic interest in N.Ireland and hence neutral.

To suggest that the IRA or UDA/UVF will return to violence because of the DUP support for the Tories is nonsense and needs to be knocked back by some serious journalists.

They're not neutral but I don't see how you can say that this won't make things worse. How can they put any pressure on the DUP in negotiations when the DUP can just say 'right so, another election it is'. And the DUP won't have to answer to the electorate because their electorate will love it.

T Fearon

I am bemused as to why the Tories should be neutral in NI,when it is an integral part of the UK,endorsed by the vast majority of Irish nationalists North and South.

But I do understand why,in normal times,the British Govt (regardless of its make up) has no interest in NI,just like Dublin Govt of any hue,so maybe being forced to take an interest is no bad thing

bennydorano


Milltown Row2

Tony the North is about as useful to Britain as Rosscommon is to the Republic
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Rossfan

I won't rise to the bait as I know you're worried your hard Brexit is gone.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: OgraAnDun on June 15, 2017, 09:28:10 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 15, 2017, 09:19:15 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on June 15, 2017, 08:52:26 PM
And another that questions May's neutrality in dealing with the North:

http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21723445-negotiating-deal-northern-irelands-unionists-casts-doubt-british-governments

The Tories have never been neutral in dealing with N.Ireland, the DUP agreement will not make matters better or worse.

The GFA will not be affected as the Tories will claim that they continue to have no strategic interest in N.Ireland and hence neutral.

To suggest that the IRA or UDA/UVF will return to violence because of the DUP support for the Tories is nonsense and needs to be knocked back by some serious journalists.

They're not neutral but I don't see how you can say that this won't make things worse. How can they put any pressure on the DUP in negotiations when the DUP can just say 'right so, another election it is'. And the DUP won't have to answer to the electorate because their electorate will love it.

Again, the Tories have never been neutral or impartial in dealing with NI.  The SoS has always been the colonial representative and has belonged to a party which has emphasised their value of the union.  Since 2015, Tories have leant on the DUP for support and have given them the cover needed. Tories have never put pressure on the DUP. So, there will be little or no change in the situation.  Time to get the executive up and running to make the most of the additional funding coming our way or have it administered by a DUP-Tory coalition.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Rossfan on June 15, 2017, 11:47:20 PM
I won't rise to the bait as I know you're worried your hard Brexit is gone.

Already did, knobhead
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

T Fearon

The Tories are Unionist,and while generally it is well known Britain would get rid of the North today if it could,there does seem to be in the Tory Party,a pervading genuine commitment to maintaining the Union.

If only the same could be said about either of the main parties in the South as regards re unification.

Franko

Yet again, May can't stop kicking the ball into her own net.  Arranges to visit the site of the Grenfell fire but makes it a private visit where she meets fire and security chiefs only.  Corbyn wipes her eye and goes down to the site and behaves the way a normal human being would, meets survivors and tries to give genuine comfort to people.  When are English people going to wake up the fact that they've put a robot in charge of their country?

Franko

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 15, 2017, 07:11:02 PM


::)

Here's another comparison...

One of these men is responsible for the death of over a million people after leading the country with lies into an illegal war.

Clue: It isn't Jeremy Corbyn (he voted and protested against it).