The DUP thread

[Main Street]

Though I'm not that aufait with unionist politics, but haven't the DUP  just shot themselves in both feet by rejecting the Windsor Framework? They could've claimed full credit for the positive changes in the WF  but instead come across as political nihilists.  Should the next development be calling for new elections isn't there a  good chance that there will be a serious swing away from the nihilists?

[imtommygunn]

Unfortunately it’s not guaranteed that they would lose votes You would have to hope that at some point in this bonkers place people eventually stop voting for the dup but I wouldn’t guarantee it. The ticket we’re not sf seems to be enough.

In a sane world it would be political suicide yes.

[AustinPowers]

There’s  no hope the  DUP will go back  to Stormont the way things are.

It looks like there  will be no change to the WF , and  according  to Mark carruthers the other night , neither British or Irish  governments  are  keen to reform  power sharing (  or sf/dup  losing their veto)

If there’s going to be no  change to the  WF or power  sharing reform , then what  are we waiting for ?  People   can’t sit forever waiting and hoping there will be some sort of resolution  to  get Stormont  going again. It’s not going to happen

It’s  either  Westminster rule, or joint rule.  Whether people  want either of those  or not ,  it has to happen. And it needs to  happen very quickly.

[From the Bunker]

So here we are. The DUP are never going to go into Government with a SF First Minister. You'd hope that those who could never vote SF would at least choose Alliance. One thing for sure there are a Plethora of elected members getting a big wad of money for doing nothing.

[Wildweasel74]

I have a rule if you don't attend 60% attendance at stormont/ govt you don't get paid. Hard to bring in as MPs in England attendance for their Westminster wouldn't be great

[nrico2006]

In summary, what's the DUPs issue with this latest agreement?

[RedHand88]

In summary, what's the DUPs issue with this latest agreement?

If you look really closely at the text, you will see that it involves a Nationalist as First Minister.

[Rossfan]

In summary, what's the DUPs issue with this latest agreement?

1 - as Red Hand says
2 - 470,000,000 didn't do what 200,000 demanded!!
3 - TUVUDAUVFOO says NO.

[seafoid]

So here we are. The DUP are never going to go into Government with a SF First Minister. You'd hope that those who could never vote SF would at least choose Alliance. One thing for sure there are a Plethora of elected members getting a big wad of money for doing nothing.

The DUP don't have to be in Government if they don't respect the democratic result. They can be excluded

[marty34]

In summary, what's the DUPs issue with this latest agreement?

Equality - don't want to see a nationalist First Minister. All about the optics.

Protocol is a red herring.

[seafoid]

In summary, what's the DUPs issue with this latest agreement?

irishtimes.com/politics/2023/03/23/dup-secretly-warned-against-its-own-trade-deal-demand-letter-reveals/…
 
"At Westminster Donaldson insisted: “What I don't accept is a situation where every business in my constituency must comply with EU rules even if they do not sell a single widget to the EU. That is wrong, because it harms our place in the UK internal market"

 However, UK officials say the DUP has yet to come up with concrete examples of where the requirement to follow EU rules has impeded Northern Ireland companies from trading with the UK. "

Just fancy that!

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2023/03/23/improved-uk-eu-relationship-will-facilitate-all-important-fudges-of-windsor-framework/
Stalling until after May’s council elections, which appears to be the DUP’s plan, has doomed it to several months of nit-picking and mischief-making, none of it conducive to welcoming a new spirit of partnership.

[Armagh18]

In summary, what's the DUPs issue with this latest agreement?

Equality - don't want to see a nationalist First Minister. All about the optics.

Protocol is a red herring.

As someone said- you could let Jim Allister write the framework himself and he would still object to it