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Re: The DUP thread
« Reply #480 on: March 25, 2023, 10:53:18 PM »
Though I'm not that aufait with unionist politics, but haven't the DUP  just shot themselves in both feet by rejecting the Windsor Framework? They could've claimed full credit for the positive changes in the WF  but instead come across as political nihilists.  Should the next development be calling for new elections isn't there a  good chance that there will be a serious swing away from the nihilists?

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« Reply #481 on: March 25, 2023, 11:32:36 PM »
Unfortunately itís not guaranteed that they would lose votes :( You would have to hope that at some point in this bonkers place people eventually stop voting for the dup but I wouldnít guarantee it. The ticket weíre not sf seems to be enough.

In a sane world it would be political suicide yes.

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« Reply #482 on: March 25, 2023, 11:46:30 PM »
Thereís  no hope the  DUP will go back  to Stormont the way things are.

It looks like there  will be no change to the WF , and  according  to Mark carruthers the other night , neither British or Irish  governments  are  keen to reform  power sharing (  or sf/dup  losing their veto)

If thereís going to be no  change to the  WF or power  sharing reform , then what  are we waiting for ?  People   canít sit forever waiting and hoping there will be some sort of resolution  to  get Stormont  going again. Itís not going to happen

Itís  either  Westminster rule, or joint rule.  Whether people  want either of those  or not ,  it has to happen. And it needs to  happen very quickly.

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« Reply #483 on: March 26, 2023, 12:00:40 AM »
So here we are. The DUP are never going to go into Government with a SF First Minister. You'd hope that those who could never vote SF would at least choose Alliance. One thing for sure there are a Plethora of elected members getting a big wad of money for doing nothing.

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« Reply #484 on: March 26, 2023, 12:35:38 AM »
I have a rule if you don't attend 60% attendance at stormont/ govt you don't get paid. Hard to bring in as MPs in England attendance for their Westminster wouldn't be great

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« Reply #485 on: March 26, 2023, 08:06:31 AM »
In summary, what's the DUPs issue with this latest agreement?
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« Reply #486 on: March 26, 2023, 08:18:43 AM »
In summary, what's the DUPs issue with this latest agreement?

If you look really closely at the text, you will see that it involves a Nationalist as First Minister.

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« Reply #487 on: March 26, 2023, 10:12:23 AM »
In summary, what's the DUPs issue with this latest agreement?
1 - as Red Hand says
2 - 470,000,000 didn't do what 200,000 demanded!!
3 - TUVUDAUVFOO says NO.
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« Reply #488 on: March 26, 2023, 10:19:40 AM »
So here we are. The DUP are never going to go into Government with a SF First Minister. You'd hope that those who could never vote SF would at least choose Alliance. One thing for sure there are a Plethora of elected members getting a big wad of money for doing nothing.
The DUP don't have to be in Government if they don't respect the democratic result. They can be excluded
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« Reply #489 on: March 26, 2023, 10:53:50 AM »
In summary, what's the DUPs issue with this latest agreement?

Equality - don't want to see a nationalist First Minister. All about the optics.

Protocol is a red herring.

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« Reply #490 on: March 26, 2023, 10:58:35 AM »
In summary, what's the DUPs issue with this latest agreement?

irishtimes.com/politics/2023/03/23/dup-secretly-warned-against-its-own-trade-deal-demand-letter-reveals/Ö
 
"At Westminster Donaldson insisted: ďWhat I don't accept is a situation where every business in my constituency must comply with EU rules even if they do not sell a single widget to the EU. That is wrong, because it harms our place in the UK internal market"

 However, UK officials say the DUP has yet to come up with concrete examples of where the requirement to follow EU rules has impeded Northern Ireland companies from trading with the UK. "

Just fancy that!
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« Reply #491 on: March 26, 2023, 12:05:35 PM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2023/03/23/improved-uk-eu-relationship-will-facilitate-all-important-fudges-of-windsor-framework/
Stalling until after Mayís council elections, which appears to be the DUPís plan, has doomed it to several months of nit-picking and mischief-making, none of it conducive to welcoming a new spirit of partnership.
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Re: The DUP thread
« Reply #492 on: March 26, 2023, 12:08:19 PM »
In summary, what's the DUPs issue with this latest agreement?

Equality - don't want to see a nationalist First Minister. All about the optics.

Protocol is a red herring.
As someone said- you could let Jim Allister write the framework himself and he would still object to it