Joe Brolly

[Dag Dog]

https://x.com/JoeBrolly1993/status/1660192113986875394

[From the Bunker]

https://x.com/JoeBrolly1993/status/1660192113986875394

Maybe Analysis is not Brolly's forte?

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Alright Captain Hindsight

[AustinPowers]

Alright Captain Hindsight

Is he yet another  one of those avengers?

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Alright Captain Hindsight

Is he yet another  one of those avengers?

New business idea I'm working on yes. If u want in nows the time

[imtommygunn]

Geezer not a fan. Almost feels like he's talking about Brolly when he keeps saying those who know the least make the most noise 

[square_ball]

Geezer not a fan. Almost feels like he's talking about Brolly when he keeps saying those who know the least make the most noise 

Joe says he will be there in Armagh tonight for the homecoming. I can't wait to his column next weekend when he reveals the messages he received half an hour before yesterdays game from Kieran Donaghy, Rian O'Neill and Soupy Campbell.

[imtommygunn]

None from geezer?

[square_ball]

None from geezer?

We will only hear about that when Geezer apologises to Joe about his dig yesterday about 'people who know very little make the most noise' and Geezer messages him to say that he was right all along.

[snoopdog]

Geezer not a fan. Almost feels like he's talking about Brolly when he keeps saying those who know the least make the most noise 

I'd say mcgeeney was talking about the people within his own county who were calling for him to go this last few years.

[marty34]

Geezer not a fan. Almost feels like he's talking about Brolly when he keeps saying those who know the least make the most noise 

I'd say mcgeeney was talking about the people within his own county who were calling for him to go this last few years.

Yeah, I think it was a thinly veiled 'f%<k you' to the loads of Armagh fans who wanted him out over the past few years.

I said before, a long contract could be the way to go now for counties. Mc Geeney deserves great credit for building that panel up over the years.  With, in fairness, little or no underage or club success etc.

The players have stuck by him and were happy (to  certain extent) to be sub and come off the bench with 15 mins to go an have an impact on the game. That takes a lot of work from the management - over time.

By the way, what does Mc Geeney work as?

[tiempo]

Geezer not a fan. Almost feels like he's talking about Brolly when he keeps saying those who know the least make the most noise 

I'd say mcgeeney was talking about the people within his own county who were calling for him to go this last few years.

Yeah, I think it was a thinly veiled 'f%<k you' to the loads of Armagh fans who wanted him out over the past few years.

I said before, a long contract could be the way to go now for counties. Mc Geeney deserves great credit for building that panel up over the years.  With, in fairness, little or no underage or club success etc.

The players have stuck by him and were happy (to  certain extent) to be sub and come off the bench with 15 mins to go an have an impact on the game. That takes a lot of work from the management - over time.

By the way, what does Mc Geeney work as?

Long term appointments won't become a thing

Geezer seems to never have 'lost the dressing room'

How many years into a long term appointment after losing the dressing room should a players and mgmt. continue to suffer each other, regardless of the rights and wrongs of he said she said arguments

What McGeeney has done is nothing short of miraculous, he clearly inspires devotion, very few are capable of this, he has a huge job on his hands maintaining their top table status, part of me thinks they'll fall away, but how he's managed to deploy the likes of Gilligan and Donaghy points perhaps to a more Sir Alex approach, where they play for him and he trusts his backroom while refreshing it periodically

[Main Street]

In a recent enough podcast Joe told of an anecdote about the Tyrone squad pre first AI victory. I have no reason to doubt Joe's veracity as he is the oracle but this account was akin to a surreal bolt out of the blue. He claimed the Tyrone players not only did not know the words to Amhrán na bhFiann but could not even pronounce the words!!!  Us kids in a humble Monaghan national school, once we had mastered 'Roly Poly' in high infants graduated to "Amhrán na bhFiann" and the call to arms "Óró 'Sé do bheatha 'bhaile"  by the age of 7. Joe claimed that the beloved Michaela had the idea to pass around copies of a phonetic equivalent of our gaelic national anthem so the Tyrone players could practice for weeks on end to mimic the national anthem. And in this manner the Tyrone players strived to forge their way into an 'Irish' identity of sorts. I suppose it was a case of 'fake it until you make it'.

[JimStynes]

In a recent enough podcast Joe told of an anecdote about the Tyrone squad pre first AI victory. I have no reason to doubt Joe's veracity as he is the oracle but this account was akin to a surreal bolt out of the blue. He claimed the Tyrone players not only did not know the words to Amhrán na bhFiann but could not even pronounce the words!!!  Us kids in a humble Monaghan national school, once we had mastered 'Roly Poly' in high infants graduated to "Amhrán na bhFiann" and the call to arms "Óró 'Sé do bheatha 'bhaile"  by the age of 7. Joe claimed that the beloved Michaela had the idea to pass around copies of a phonetic equivalent of our gaelic national anthem so the Tyrone players could practice for weeks on end to mimic the national anthem. And in this manner the Tyrone players strived to forge their way into an 'Irish' identity of sorts. I suppose it was a case of 'fake it until you make it'.

I thought that was the talk at the time. Michaela came in to teach the squad the national anthem at some stage of the year. Had it written out phonetically on pages or something.

I had a laugh at Joe's description of Geezer's speech being like Father Ted'd Golden Cleric acceptance speech.

[Main Street]

In a recent enough podcast Joe told of an anecdote about the Tyrone squad pre first AI victory. I have no reason to doubt Joe's veracity as he is the oracle but this account was akin to a surreal bolt out of the blue. He claimed the Tyrone players not only did not know the words to Amhrán na bhFiann but could not even pronounce the words!!!  Us kids in a humble Monaghan national school, once we had mastered 'Roly Poly' in high infants graduated to "Amhrán na bhFiann" and the call to arms "Óró 'Sé do bheatha 'bhaile"  by the age of 7. Joe claimed that the beloved Michaela had the idea to pass around copies of a phonetic equivalent of our gaelic national anthem so the Tyrone players could practice for weeks on end to mimic the national anthem. And in this manner the Tyrone players strived to forge their way into an 'Irish' identity of sorts. I suppose it was a case of 'fake it until you make it'.

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I think that was in the book Harte brought out after 2003 All Ireland win (Kicking Down Heavens Door).. Was surprised myself that the players didn't know 'Amhrán na bhFiann' as we all learnt it as children also in Tyrone. However I'd say a load of them would have known it just going by their backgrounds, careers like teachers etc.
I can't imagine players like Peter Canavan, Davy Harte, the late Cormac McAnallen, Conor Gormley and others didn't know it..
As for 'forging their way into an Irish identity'.. I don't think so, more like a team bonding thing the players lined up together belting out Amhrán na bhFiann.
It was noted that '03 final Tyrone v Armagh both sets of supporters respected the anthem until its conclusion rather than roaring and cheering with a few lines to finish. Probably the only time that's happened. No doubt about Irish identity here...

That's not the story as told by Joe as it was told to him by a Tyrone player and Joe claims he took notes of the conversation.
There was a prevailing atmosphere across the land that northern nationalists were 2nd class Irish citizens, lower than lowest ( so called 1st class citizens). It came from Mickey Harte  to push the Irish identity thing, that  as northern nationalists they were not 2nd class Irish citizens, that they were as good if not better than the rest and a part of that  process was Michaela teaching the group how to sing Amhrán na bhFiann and she used the phonetic method as a tool.
Is there a 6 county specific context as to why  some or most of the team did not know the gaelic words  or even how to pronounce those words?  In national school in Monaghan in the olden days, it would be so if you were schooled in a protestant denominated school. 
Regardless, those Tyrone players who  didn't know how to pronounce or understand the words to Amhrán na bhFiann were reared as 2nd class Irish nationalists, there was an imposed inferiority complex of sorts, that they were not deemed worthy  of or it wasn't regarded as necessary part of their Irish identity for them to learn the national anthem.