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#1
General discussion / Re: The far right
June 20, 2024, 11:48:10 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 20, 2024, 11:35:11 PMThat effin Yank.
Comparing the "Nationalist nightmare" to a mini minority of fascist racist xenophobes who dont want black or Muslim people being put up in various premises that are nothing to do vlwith them and  don't impact on them.



Well the "mini minortiy" sure stuck it to the shinners in the recent election-LOL

#2
General discussion / Re: The far right
June 20, 2024, 10:41:20 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 19, 2024, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 19, 2024, 10:21:28 AM
Quote from: whitey on June 18, 2024, 06:01:44 PMTonto

Should someone who protests outside an IPAs center be "beaten off the street" like Itchy suggests should happen?

If your answer is yes, how is that any different to what the RUC did?

I spent a lot of my youth in Portadown, in the Ballyoran estate and the G Road. Using what happened there to try and prove point is bang out of order but not surprising from you.

Complete false equivalence, we were standing against the far right when we were battered off the road. I've always stood against the far right and always will.



False equivalence my ar$e

I don't think I've ever seen a more clear cut comparison.

A group of residents are having a situation forced upon them against their will, that is seriously impacting their community. This situation was forced upon them without consultation, negotiation or compromise and a threat of violence from the state for non compliance-exactly the same as what happened to you


In fact, I would argue that people protesting IPAs centers have it worse than you had it. You had to deal with the situation for one day a year. They may have to deal with it for years to come.....and have to pay for it to add insult to injury




#3
General discussion / Re: The far right
June 19, 2024, 02:02:45 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 19, 2024, 01:38:07 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 19, 2024, 12:30:00 PMThat'll be not paying for it then.

Indeed most of them never worked a day in their lives and the ones I know never did a thing in a voluntary capacity in the community. They are a waste of Oxygen.

Wow

This is absolutely shocking

Because SOME of the people protesting  are working class there's an attempt to paintball protesters as lazy layabouts.

You guys need to all take a serious look in the mirror

I have never seen such smug, self congratulatory elitism on this board.
#4
General discussion / Re: The far right
June 19, 2024, 11:45:02 AM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 19, 2024, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 19, 2024, 10:21:28 AM
Quote from: whitey on June 18, 2024, 06:01:44 PMTonto

Should someone who protests outside an IPAs center be "beaten off the street" like Itchy suggests should happen?

If your answer is yes, how is that any different to what the RUC did?

I spent a lot of my youth in Portadown, in the Ballyoran estate and the G Road. Using what happened there to try and prove point is bang out of order but not surprising from you.

Complete false equivalence, we were standing against the far right when we were battered off the road. I've always stood against the far right and always will.

Yes or no question.

Do people have a right to protest against an IPAs center in their town ?


(No planning permission required, no consultation sought, no additional resources allocated to the town such as Gardai or health care professionals......oh and by the way the protesters are also paying for the housing, feeding, transportation and healthcare of all these new arrivals)

all the while the government is failing to enforce its own immigration laws and also isnt deporting people who've exhausted all legal options
#5
General discussion / Re: The far right
June 19, 2024, 12:43:18 AM
Quote from: Itchy on June 18, 2024, 11:27:59 PM
Quote from: Gerard O'Neill on June 18, 2024, 10:18:11 PMhttps://extra.ie/2024/06/18/news/irish-news/concern-migrant-attacks

Here is the 'backstory':

"Gardaí have 'growing concerns' over the number of assaults carried out on migrants, with many of the new arrivals falsely accused of targeting children before being attacked."

More on the 'backstory':

"No Garda investigation is ongoing in relation to any attempted child abduction on Sunday."

More on the 'backstory':

"Videos of the incident have been shared across social media. Some prominent members of the far-right, including British nationalist Tommy Robinson, have posted the video."

More on the 'backstory':

"Sources have said the O'Connell Street attack was borne out of 'nothing' and that the growing number of these incidents is something which is concerning officers."

I for one am surprised that the guy with the blue knuckleduster and the harpie screaming 'KILL HIM' didn't turn out to just be concerned bypassers.

Imagine the ordeal that poor man went through, being beaten by that mob and being falsely accused of attempted abduction of a child. If you watched that and your first thought was about some possible  imaginary 'backstory' to attempt to excuse that shower of shite you should be ashamed of yourself.



You won't get any shame from our resident racists.

So because I simply want immigration law enforced you're implying I'm a racist who condones what happened that poor guy

Well Mary Loo  (after the drubbing SF received last week) essentially said that she has the same position as me-she advocates for a "fair, efficient and ENFORCED immigration system."

I suppose she's also a racist
#6
General discussion / Re: The far right
June 18, 2024, 06:01:44 PM
Tonto

Should someone who protests outside an IPAs center be "beaten off the street" like Itchy suggests should happen?

If your answer is yes, how is that any different to what the RUC did?
#7
General discussion / Re: The far right
June 17, 2024, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 17, 2024, 08:43:04 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 17, 2024, 03:56:16 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on.,
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.

Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.

Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔

Anyone who breaks the law and/or disobeys lawful orders from the authorities should be subject to the full rigors of the law-I would agree with that

But Following that exact logic, the RUC were then 100% justified in beating the residents off the Garvaghy Road in order to let the Orange order pass, as it was a legal assembly

Now the question is, who gets to define what comprises the far right?



Get the f**k with that complete and utter BS pal

I'm 100% serious

If you are given a legal order by an officer of the law are you obliged to obey it?

Let's say we have 2 people.

One is blocking access to an IPAS Center

The other is blocking an Orange March from legally marching down a particular street.

Who, if any, of the two should be "beaten off the street" by the authorities ?
#8
General discussion / Re: The far right
June 17, 2024, 06:33:13 PM
Quote from: Gerard O'Neill on June 17, 2024, 05:15:41 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 17, 2024, 03:56:16 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on.,
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.

Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.

Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔

Anyone who breaks the law and/or disobeys lawful orders from the authorities should be subject to the full rigors of the law-I would agree with that

But Following that exact logic, the RUC were then 100% justified in beating the residents off the Garvaghy Road in order to let the Orange order pass, as it was a legal assembly

Now the question is, who gets to define what comprises the far right?



Would you call the thugs in that video clip far right?

I don't know what their political ideology is, but I would say they're racists, xenophobes and scumbags

It all depends on your definition of far right

Do you have a definition you care to share with us?

(Up until the recent election many of those now being accused of being far right would have been hard left voters)
#9
General discussion / Re: The far right
June 17, 2024, 03:56:16 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on.,
Quote from: Rossfan on June 17, 2024, 03:43:51 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on June 17, 2024, 01:58:07 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.

Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔
anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.
I second that.
And I third it.

Do Burdy and the yank approve 🤔

Anyone who breaks the law and/or disobeys lawful orders from the authorities should be subject to the full rigors of the law-I would agree with that

But Following that exact logic, the RUC were then 100% justified in beating the residents off the Garvaghy Road in order to let the Orange order pass, as it was a legal assembly

Now the question is, who gets to define what comprises the far right?

#10
General discussion / Re: The far right
June 17, 2024, 03:19:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 17, 2024, 01:55:21 PMIts like I said before, and I mean this literally. Those scumbags should be beaten off every street they appear on. There is no room for tolerance for the far right, anyone with the brains to read a history book knows where this leads to. Its a disgrace the way the gardai are basically hiding and letting this shit go on and then swooping for them afterwards. Someone is going to get killed by these brainless thugs.

So in your (alternative) universe, exactly what types of protests would be allowed before one would be expected to be beaten off the streets?
#11
Quote from: Rossfan on June 15, 2024, 09:37:57 AMNothing wrong with immigration.
Damn sight better than the Emigration we had from 1840s to 1960s, plus the awful 1980s.
Some people won't be happy unless we end up as Albania.

Sinn Féin came into the election with 1 MEP.
Sinn Féin ended the election with 2 MEPs.
Also increased their number of Councillors.
They'd love a similar "disaster" in the GE no doubt.

By the way what business is it all of a right wing extremist Yank.



It was a resounding success..... break out the champagne

https://www.ft.com/content/9d11a7d6-33e9-48bb-ab31-d36a3ae25bb4

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/simon-harris-blasts-sinn-feins-election-performance-as-unmitigated-disaster-1635936.html
#12
Legal immigration is good

Illegal immigration is bad

At least Harris has stepped up and is seeking to stem the flow of illegal arrivals.
#13
Question for Sinn Fein supporters

Does Sinn Fein have a formal written policy on migration?

Here is a link to all of their policy positions, and unless I'm missing it.....I don't see one on migration.

https://www.sinnfein.ie/policy-document-archive/3

In light of the recent disastrous election showing, Mary Loo was accusing people of misrepresenting their position on migration.......but it looks like they don't actually have a position. 

Curious
#14
Quote from: Itchy on June 14, 2024, 11:19:08 PMThe spectator 😆 You'll be quoting from mein kampf next.

Just because you dont like them doesnt mean theyre wrong

#15
I completely agree with this assessment


https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/sinn-feins-immigration-stance-has-blown-up-in-its-face/

"Yet from their highest polling of 40 per cent, Sunday night's final tally showed them trailing in at a dismal 12 per cent, and they have been virtually wiped out in the local election results.

The reason?

Well, Mary Lou McDonald, leader of Sinn Fein essentially adopted an open borders policy which would allow mass immigration into Ireland.

Mary Lou McDonald's attempts to become respectable with the overwhelmingly liberal and middle-class Dublin mediocracy quite simply blew up in her face, as rising non-EU immigration has come to dominate the political agenda. "