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Outside of occasionally Armagh and Dublin, no football teams fans can really hold a candle to Munster hurling teams at the moment

Not really fair comparing with the completely different setup in hurling.

The football provincials are not much more than a warm-up before the serious business starts with the group stages.

The Munster hurling round-robin has real jeopardy with every single game being critical given 40% of the teams taking part will be finished for the summer in a few weeks (and possibly even sooner depending on how results go).

But football fans aren't going to any games in those numbers is the point. If you took Armagh fan out of the All Ireland quarter final double header on the Saturday last year there'd have been less than 15k there. Similar for the Sunday double header if you took Dublin fans out. Those are exceptionally big games and nobody outside of an Armagh bandwagon will travel for them anymore

Hurling fans, especially in Munster, will travel for games currently tbf. Clare who are a small county have brought 35k+ to their last two semis. Limerick and Cork (hurling only) have huge support constantly

Cost/amount of games have to be putting people off. The 2 Ulster games and the Limerick/Clare hurling match were all brilliant watches at the weekend, but theres a semi final and final for Tyrone/Donegal coming soon, plus 3 group games to come. The product is great but isn't helped by wankers running it down in the media and by the price of tickets.

Basically every game is on tv now too. That has to be a factor.

Massive bigot who deserves no airtime. How anyone ever elected her in England I don't know - she's bonkers.

He has done a great job and I would worry what will happen when he leaves.

Timmy Mallet at Cushendun pitch...

https://twitter.com/TimmyMallett/status/1782166634800501228

Clattenburg being in that position at Forest stinks a bit IMO. I would expect Forest to be fined and VAR people not to be allowed to do it again for a while.

It's a banana skin for Armagh. They *should* be too good but maybe Down are better than we think.

Some interesting results in the Joe mcdonagh. Wouldn't have expected Kerry to beat Westmeath or Laois to beat Offaly.

He was awful. I think he was as bad for one team as the other.

I honestly think he's one of Liverpool's best ever managers. he was just unfortunate with that city team and quite frankly when you look at the resource difference I think anyone competing with them is a massive thing.

You are looking at the wrong problem here. It's not why are we all so sick.

It's why has whatever resourcing is going into it not being used well enough. Why has bureaucracy been allowed to cripple it. Why when you can't even staff important roles fully and people are leaving can you not even give a decent payrise given you don't even have a full quota of employees. I would bet a lot of the roles are middle management etc and the roles for people who do the real work are not being filled.

The thing is that private will just become that bottleneck too. It's almost the same resource pool in terms of doctors and there are limited hospitals too.

I had a pretty positive experience the other day when our wee boy had an incident but in general NHS isn't in good shape. I think if it's a kid you're much better place but the more you read about it the more concerning it really is.

Wexford to beat Dublin but that aside I would mainly agree. I think Davy is a busted flush tbh but we'll see what Waterford can do. Cork have been underwhelming this years and will want to be winning that.

I think Limerick will be laying down a statement.

Antrim not strong enough for KK. The likes of Carlow game more important.

Silva's penalty was ridiculous. It was a pass back to the goalie - hard to fathom what he was at there.

The family name may cloud judgement there...