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Brendan

Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on August 04, 2024, 05:41:09 PMAs an outsider what is wrong with Junior football in Derry.

Teams conceding games in championship, hammerings of close to 50 points in some games (last year).

St Mary's Ardmore have conceded both games: Sean Dolan's, Doire Trasna and Doire Colmcille all very weak.

Surely there's potential in the 4 clubs above considering there in the city. (I know Derry City is not necessarily a GAA hotspot).

But the potential is surely there at underage to build something from the ground up considering the large nationalist population.

County board with no balls to reform the Championship structure keep pandering to the big clubs to protect their interests.

As for the city teams they're very hit and miss at underage apart from Steelstown of course. A club could go from pushing to winning the league one year and the next year the same age group wouldn't be able to field

Doire23

Quote from: Brendan on August 04, 2024, 05:38:40 PM
Quote from: Doire23 on August 04, 2024, 05:12:49 PMScanning through some of today's results - Claudy 4-9 Banagher 0-1 on the Derry GAA site seems a bit of a wild one, is it right? One point in 60 minutes doesn't bode well for a team that were inches from the senior league play-off.

It's been corrected, was actually Banagher done the hammering. Shows the farce of the thing Claudy still can't be relegated this year

Cheers Brendan. Was wondering when it seemed to go completely against what we'd seen so many this year. That's why!

Ball

Is just me or is the promotion of the club championship getting worse instead of better.

There was live streaming of games previously now can hardly even get score updates on some games never mind teams or a match report. Derry twitter hardly mentioned much and alot of clubs own pages arent much better.

County Post used to be great for build up etc too.

Brendan

Quote from: Ball on August 04, 2024, 07:27:59 PMIs just me or is the promotion of the club championship getting worse instead of better.

There was live streaming of games previously now can hardly even get score updates on some games never mind teams or a match report. Derry twitter hardly mentioned much and alot of clubs own pages arent much better.

County Post used to be great for build up etc too.

The streaming didn't start till knockout the last few years if I remember right but the promotion of it is pitiful, need a good blog/website going like the saffron gael in Antrim. Derry post has been very poor since Mal left it. With so many free lance sports journalists about the county its a wonder a good website isn't put together because there is a great demand for it

Cluborcountywhynotboth

Quote from: Brendan on August 04, 2024, 05:50:15 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on August 04, 2024, 05:41:09 PMAs an outsider what is wrong with Junior football in Derry.

Teams conceding games in championship, hammerings of close to 50 points in some games (last year).

St Mary's Ardmore have conceded both games: Sean Dolan's, Doire Trasna and Doire Colmcille all very weak.

Surely there's potential in the 4 clubs above considering there in the city. (I know Derry City is not necessarily a GAA hotspot).

But the potential is surely there at underage to build something from the ground up considering the large nationalist population.

County board with no balls to reform the Championship structure keep pandering to the big clubs to protect their interests.

As for the city teams they're very hit and miss at underage apart from Steelstown of course. A club could go from pushing to winning the league one year and the next year the same age group wouldn't be able to field

Steelstown are being heavily backed by the county board both financially (through city development officers being from the club) and also representation on county panels, however the out-workings of this, while good for Steelstown and having some impact on county representation, is that other clubs in the city suffer as any player who shows any potential at a young age is hoovered up by steelstown. The lack of parish borders in the city and proper support and development for all city clubs is what's holding the city back (as well as the other issues of competing sports etc..). A couple years ago there was a massive write up in local media about how Steelstown were fielding 3 adult teams in the one weekend across 3 district competitions, yet what wasn't mentioned was that in the same weekend every other city team conceded their games in the same competitions. Steelstown are the county boards pet project when it comes the the city, but its tokenism rather than proper support and development to drive our games in the city.

Also, just to say this is not a dig at Steelstown, they have gotten into this position by being well organised and working hard to position themselves within the city, and other city clubs are only now starting to catch up.

Newbridge Exile

Absolutely atrocious conditions for our game against Lavey today, Patrick McGurk impressive for Lavey in  first half and Rory Magill decent too, Oisin Doherty got a couple of brilliant long range points from play for us in the second half

Derry Man

Quote from: Brendan on August 04, 2024, 07:38:57 PM
Quote from: Ball on August 04, 2024, 07:27:59 PMIs just me or is the promotion of the club championship getting worse instead of better.

There was live streaming of games previously now can hardly even get score updates on some games never mind teams or a match report. Derry twitter hardly mentioned much and alot of clubs own pages arent much better.

County Post used to be great for build up etc too.

The streaming didn't start till knockout the last few years if I remember right but the promotion of it is pitiful, need a good blog/website going like the saffron gael in Antrim. Derry post has been very poor since Mal left it. With so many free lance sports journalists about the county its a wonder a good website isn't put together because there is a great demand for it

Couple of years ago it was £40 for every game Senior, intermediate & Junior on demand and at least 1 live stream game every weekend. Last year they didn't even stream every quarter final and the quality was awful also for some reason got rid of having every game available on demand, I don't know why as every team videos their game so wouldn't be hard to do. We are so far behind in terms of promotion of our games compared to every other county in Ulster, reporting has gone to the dogs since Mal left Derry Post as well.

theticklemister

Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on August 04, 2024, 08:16:13 PM
Quote from: Brendan on August 04, 2024, 05:50:15 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on August 04, 2024, 05:41:09 PMAs an outsider what is wrong with Junior football in Derry.

Teams conceding games in championship, hammerings of close to 50 points in some games (last year).

St Mary's Ardmore have conceded both games: Sean Dolan's, Doire Trasna and Doire Colmcille all very weak.

Surely there's potential in the 4 clubs above considering there in the city. (I know Derry City is not necessarily a GAA hotspot).

But the potential is surely there at underage to build something from the ground up considering the large nationalist population.

County board with no balls to reform the Championship structure keep pandering to the big clubs to protect their interests.

As for the city teams they're very hit and miss at underage apart from Steelstown of course. A club could go from pushing to winning the league one year and the next year the same age group wouldn't be able to field

Steelstown are being heavily backed by the county board both financially (through city development officers being from the club) and also representation on county panels, however the out-workings of this, while good for Steelstown and having some impact on county representation, is that other clubs in the city suffer as any player who shows any potential at a young age is hoovered up by steelstown. The lack of parish borders in the city and proper support and development for all city clubs is what's holding the city back (as well as the other issues of competing sports etc..). A couple years ago there was a massive write up in local media about how Steelstown were fielding 3 adult teams in the one weekend across 3 district competitions, yet what wasn't mentioned was that in the same weekend every other city team conceded their games in the same competitions. Steelstown are the county boards pet project when it comes the the city, but its tokenism rather than proper support and development to drive our games in the city.

Also, just to say this is not a dig at Steelstown, they have gotten into this position by being well organised and working hard to position themselves within the city, and other city clubs are only now starting to catch up.


Never read as much balls in my life

theticklemister

Quote from: Derry Man on August 04, 2024, 09:38:41 PM
Quote from: Brendan on August 04, 2024, 07:38:57 PM
Quote from: Ball on August 04, 2024, 07:27:59 PMIs just me or is the promotion of the club championship getting worse instead of better.

There was live streaming of games previously now can hardly even get score updates on some games never mind teams or a match report. Derry twitter hardly mentioned much and alot of clubs own pages arent much better.

County Post used to be great for build up etc too.

The streaming didn't start till knockout the last few years if I remember right but the promotion of it is pitiful, need a good blog/website going like the saffron gael in Antrim. Derry post has been very poor since Mal left it. With so many free lance sports journalists about the county its a wonder a good website isn't put together because there is a great demand for it

Couple of years ago it was £40 for every game Senior, intermediate & Junior on demand and at least 1 live stream game every weekend. Last year they didn't even stream every quarter final and the quality was awful also for some reason got rid of having every game available on demand, I don't know why as every team videos their game so wouldn't be hard to do. We are so far behind in terms of promotion of our games compared to every other county in Ulster, reporting has gone to the dogs since Mal left Derry Post as well.

To be fair, these group games are shite. People wouldn't pay the subscription and the costs of producing them wouldn't cover it.

Did the Derry Post do any build-up for the Championship? Haven't read it in years. Used to buy the online subscription.

OakleafCounty

Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on August 04, 2024, 08:16:13 PM
Quote from: Brendan on August 04, 2024, 05:50:15 PM
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on August 04, 2024, 05:41:09 PMAs an outsider what is wrong with Junior football in Derry.

Teams conceding games in championship, hammerings of close to 50 points in some games (last year).

St Mary's Ardmore have conceded both games: Sean Dolan's, Doire Trasna and Doire Colmcille all very weak.

Surely there's potential in the 4 clubs above considering there in the city. (I know Derry City is not necessarily a GAA hotspot).

But the potential is surely there at underage to build something from the ground up considering the large nationalist population.

County board with no balls to reform the Championship structure keep pandering to the big clubs to protect their interests.

As for the city teams they're very hit and miss at underage apart from Steelstown of course. A club could go from pushing to winning the league one year and the next year the same age group wouldn't be able to field

Steelstown are being heavily backed by the county board both financially (through city development officers being from the club) and also representation on county panels, however the out-workings of this, while good for Steelstown and having some impact on county representation, is that other clubs in the city suffer as any player who shows any potential at a young age is hoovered up by steelstown. The lack of parish borders in the city and proper support and development for all city clubs is what's holding the city back (as well as the other issues of competing sports etc..). A couple years ago there was a massive write up in local media about how Steelstown were fielding 3 adult teams in the one weekend across 3 district competitions, yet what wasn't mentioned was that in the same weekend every other city team conceded their games in the same competitions. Steelstown are the county boards pet project when it comes the the city, but its tokenism rather than proper support and development to drive our games in the city.

Also, just to say this is not a dig at Steelstown, they have gotten into this position by being well organised and working hard to position themselves within the city, and other city clubs are only now starting to catch up.


I don't think Steelstown are loved by the county board at all. I also don't think they hoover up the talent but a lot of parents tend to be attracted to them from all over the city. It's up to the other clubs to get their act together though and put in the required work.

The biggest issue I feel facing gaelic football in the city is the fact that underage soccer, particularly at primary school level is booming and almost all boys prefer it and it's an issue the whole season long with the Foyle Cup taking place in the middle of summer. It's a problem clubs all over North Derry are facing. We could really be doing with a GAA version of it.

screenexile

Do you mean extending the Feile past just U14 level?

Gazboy

So no word on who new Derry manager is going to be yet???

Brendan

The hurling championship will be as exciting as ever outside of Slaughtneil walking to another senior title

Derry Optimist

Derry's last three permanent Senior football managers, Damian McErlain in 2017, Rory Gallagher in 2019 and Mickey Harte in 2023  were all appointed at the monthly September meeting of that year. Derry's nominations from the clubs deadline for this year was on July 25th. Obviously, either at their own behest or at the GAA HQ's request, the Derry County Board wanted a judgment call to ensure that all of their received nominations fulfilled all the necessary criteria to be properly appointed.

 One would expect that that there will be a new management team which fulfils these criteria will be  in place for the September meeting. The danger in such protracted situations in any county is that we may not get either our first or second choices  but left  with a third choice. Let us hope that does not happen in Derry as we have the core of a great side already with the cream of three All-Ireland winning sides  chomping at the bit. I know that Eoin McEvoy and Lachlan Murray are already established from that first winning team but there are many more showing huge potential. That is why it is vital that we get a top class management team to maximise their potential. No doubt the County Board are very conscious of giving our once in a lifetime generational players an opportunity to win the All Ireland.

Link

Poor from screen tonight in the minor championship. 4 on 1 brawl with an under 16, coach starting fights on the sideline, manager running more than their corner backs onto field of play, county star sent off after full time.

Must have expected a title from that team when coaching staff was littered with ex county players.