Congress

[BennyCake]

A Division 1 Team would need to win about 3 games at least to get into the top 5 then the 3 knockout games so if you count the league aspect then you need to win  6 games at least to win all ireland tho you can now  lose 3 games and win all ireland  if this proposal is voted in.I hear the ulster president not happy

I'd imagine he is

Basically a very competitive Ulster championship gets turned into a meaningless McKenna cup competition,and all  because they chucked millions at Dublin which ruined Leinster, and because Kerry are shite at Hurling so decided to concentrate on football , which ruined Munster

[Eire90]

give the four provincial champions 2 league points each maybe i know that does sound ridiculous but it might keep the provincial boards happy

[Rossfan]

I hear the ulster president not happy

The day you meet a happy Ulster person ...
They're only ever happy if they're moaning

[thewobbler]

There was a hilarious segment on Off The Ball AM the other morning where Ger Gilroy and co. were imagining a fantastical future under Proposal B, with stadiums packed out every week.

Delusion barely begins to explain it. It was like an infomercial. Mike Levy and Amazing Discoveries probably had more integrity about what they were selling.

Monaghan played Kerry in the Super 8s in Clones in high summer in what was to all intents and purposes an All-Ireland quarter-final, and it barely drew 17k in a stadium which holds 30k.

The promised glorious future won't happen.

Perspective is everything.

17,000 is pretty much a full house at Ravenhill or RDS.

It's about 5 times a league of Ireland attendance.

If that's what the GAA is capable of dragging up for for a quarter final between geographically disposed teams, I really can't see how it could be described as a fail.

17,000 people. Ireland.

Perspective is everything.

[sid waddell]

There was a hilarious segment on Off The Ball AM the other morning where Ger Gilroy and co. were imagining a fantastical future under Proposal B, with stadiums packed out every week.

Delusion barely begins to explain it. It was like an infomercial. Mike Levy and Amazing Discoveries probably had more integrity about what they were selling.

Monaghan played Kerry in the Super 8s in Clones in high summer in what was to all intents and purposes an All-Ireland quarter-final, and it barely drew 17k in a stadium which holds 30k.

The promised glorious future won't happen.

Perspective is everything.

17,000 is pretty much a full house at Ravenhill or RDS.

It's about 5 times a league of Ireland attendance.

If that's what the GAA is capable of dragging up for for a quarter final between geographically disposed teams, I really can't see how it could be described as a fail.

17,000 people. Ireland.

Perspective is everything.

It's barely over half what an Ulster final attracts without fail.

And that was in high summer. Monaghan v Kerry was played on Sunday July 22nd.

It wasn't played on a cold April afternoon with Manchester City v Liverpool on the box at the same time.

If you want to downgrade your showpiece competition, playing it as a dishwater dull league format in April and May seems a very good way of doing that.

[thewobbler]

It's 17,000 people.

Which makes it roughly between 1 in every 350-400 people in Ireland who attended the event.

To extrapolate this to the population of England, it would be an the attendance of circa 160,000.

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Do not forget that Monaghan's population would fit in a Dublin suburb, and that Kerry fans were looking at a 7-10 hour round trip for a televised match.

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17,000 isn't a shame.

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17,000 is extraordinary.

[sid waddell]

It's 17,000 people.

Which makes it roughly between 1 in every 350-400 people in Ireland who attended the event.

To extrapolate this to the population of England, it would be an the attendance of circa 160,000.

——

Do not forget that Monaghan's population would fit in a Dublin suburb, and that Kerry fans were looking at a 7-10 hour round trip for a televised match.

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17,000 isn't a shame.

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17,000 is extraordinary.

On the contrary, it's a derisory crowd for a match of that importance.

Kerry and Monaghan played to not far off a full house in Croke Park in an All-Ireland quarter-final in 2007.

Another thing is that 17k might look alright in Ravenhill, a stadium which is designed to hold only 17k, but it looks shit in Clones. It looks like ten men and their dogs. And it looks worse again in Croke Park.

There's no reason to think the league stage attendances will increase very much on NFL attendances.

There is not and never has been a culture of week on week large attendances for GAA.

Even the ultra-competitive Munster hurling championship round robin has had some very poor attendances.

Plus the scheduling and the format will suit two teams, Kerry and most of all Dublin.

[thewobbler]

Laugh out f**king loud.

By your criteria, if it's anything fewer than 1 in 300 people on the island who cannot take the time, expense and ardour of attending a mid series match, then it's a failure.

1 in 300 people.

Mental.

[Armagh18]

Laugh out f**king loud.

By your criteria, if it's anything fewer than 1 in 300 people on the island who cannot take the time, expense and ardour of attending a mid series match, then it's a failure.

1 in 300 people.

Mental.

if you think an all ireland semi final not selling out fecking Clones is acceptable you need your head looked at

EDIT Should read quarter**

[thewobbler]

Why are you talking about a semi final?

[Armagh18]

Why are you talking about a semi final?

my mistake. Will edit now but point stil stands.

[thewobbler]

See it wasn't a quarter final either, of which there's 4. It was a Super 8 match, of which there's 12.

And it was mid table in terms of attendance figures for a super 8 match, nowhere near the bottom.

[tiempo]

More evidence of Kerry fear of the border if nothing else

[Armagh18]

See it wasn't a quarter final either, of which there's 4. It was a Super 8 match, of which there's 12.

And it was mid table in terms of attendance figures for a super 8 match, nowhere near the bottom.

Sure it was winner goes to the semi loser goes home was it not? Basically a knock out quarter final. Anyway the super 8's need to go.

[sid waddell]

See it wasn't a quarter final either, of which there's 4. It was a Super 8 match, of which there's 12.

And it was mid table in terms of attendance figures for a super 8 match, nowhere near the bottom.

If you're trying to make a case for a league system, you're actually doing a great job of making a case against it.